Cant waiiiit! Just got finished with "Inventing Anna" Lol...

Yes I will! That woman is psychotic!

Yes!

I will.

Can't wait! This is a fascinating story

They call that « acting » where I live

@@judethaddeus9856 😐

I kept wondering when she would do that because it was said that Elizabeth changed her voice. I think she’s doing so well with this role, I can’t imagine another actress doing better. I’m no expert but I’m really impressed with her performance. She will never get type cast as a dumb blond type with this serious role. Just fooling around I tried to deepen my voice the last few days like her but couldn’t. However I have acid reflux on my vocal chords so if I yell at anyone, like my cat, I’m in pain. So I did develop a slightly deeper more authoritative tone so it doesn’t hurt.

I didn't think she resembled Elizabeth Holmes at all.

I swear I see you comment on like most every video I watch

Jennifer Lawrence could have smashed it aswell I think 😃😂

Or Emma Stone!

But, her eyes still don't look lifeless enough. She'll never have that lifeless stare that people like Elizabeth and Zuckerberg have so effortlessly.

She's way too pretty tho

Originally it was going be Kate McKinnon, which would have been horrible. Amanda is amazing in the role.

ikr

amazing how the “self made” always gets a “leg up” - but they neglect to admit it.

@@dez-m UCD grad here. Grew up door poor raised by a junkie single mom. Today my net worth is >$1M at 37, putting me among the top 5% or so among my age. I used to look at the others who were given it all the way you described. ROFL what you learn when you get old like me is most of the rich kids given everything don’t end up doing shit. So much of it is just a sponsored project by their parents etc. I’m setting my kids up so they’ll never struggle like me but they’ll never have access to cash like the ruined rich kids have. I created generational wealth but now I need it to not fuck up my kids. Money makes people worthless.

@@JT0007 unearned money makes people worthless.

@@dez-m rich kids rarely have to struggle or sacrifice for their “success” - dad or mom just pick up the phone.

Throughout the Hulu series and in reality, anybody who questioned Elizabeth and Sunni were either isolated within the company or fired. Questions from external interests were met with ambiguous answers without proper follow up questions. From the series and everything I've read, Elizabeth was very deliberate on how she worded a question.

This is America. People out here are crazy. I find it incredible that she never explained exactly how this Edison box worked. Thats like saying you have a car that can travel faster than the speed of sound. Crazy if she had found a new way to run complex lab tests why did she not publish? She could have patented her design. Why did she say it was a secret? I find it amazing that the people invested did not question this. Well I guess Americans are all idiots.

They bought into it because they wanted to sleep with her. If she was old, fat and ugly ya think they’d shell out those kind of bucks? I think not.

Most of the investors were Republicans…. So pretty dumb

as being part of the military i find it hilarious that gen james mattis was part of the board just bc most people think all marines are stupid and crayon eaters & this just further adds to it 🤣

Yeah.... It was bad. There are other companies that function as a cult as well.

Oh okay I am ordering the book on the 20th when i get paid. I cannot wait to get the fullest story.

Mine is more toxic, just much smaller

a trait of psychopaths. I'm a straight older guy, and that face and voice chills my soul.

One of the whistle blowers mentions in one of the documentaries that seeing the eyes before everything came to light was different to now. Before he spoke the eyes were one of the things that convinced him to drink the koolaid for a time. It is easy to have an opinion after the facts.

@@quierover4locas some people are also more gullible than others, too.

@@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat yep

Money, the thought of billions will cloud your judgment

But wasn't that basically... what she was doing? I guess the major difference is people in marketing may not have all the information, and may also be seen to be innocent of culpability if things go wrong. But otherwise... she was marketing herself as inspiring, and an idea as possible. In that order. It's all sales, in the end, this s**t 😕

i mean she did have a talent 😭

That's what I thought, maybe she was a bit overly optimistic and truly believed her machine could work, in theory time travel is also possible but when you set out to do it it's not so simple. When she started the company she was too young, at 19 you can believe in fairy tales but later she caught on but still kept going in deeper and deeper because she did not want to admit to people and lose the fame and fortune and credibility she had received, even if it put millions of lives at risk. People would think of her as a joke and no one would want to o vest with her ever again is probably what she thought, so she kept buying more time hoping her scientists and engineers will catch up and she wouldn't have to give up all her credibility, money and fame. Until she couldn't anymore.

So true. She was so blind, she could really have becoming very successful in another field.

Agreed!!

Right, He needs therapy.

No shit, never thought about that.

I'm sure she had to sign a prenup, you think?

Someone who is basically gonna have to raise a child on his own, she likely won't be out before it reaches adulthood.

Exactly! As an actual hospital laboratory scientist doing these tests on a day to day basis, it astounded me that the company even managed to stay afloat for that long and even attract investors. The basic principles of blood and the analysers made no sense

@@shisah5544 Same profession here😉 She's just one of the cry babies I dealt with,lol

It’s wild she got so far though without any doctors calling BS publicly

She did talk to scientists; unfortunately one completed suicide after being subpoenaed to testify against her. Any person with scientific background she just ignored them and focused on marketing. She is scary. She deserves jail time.

@@solerevyval4788 Which scientist?? I'm not the best in my field but I know this simple fact.

Not to mention pretty blonde blue-eyed women.

@@pjschmid2251 rich, "established" white women with blue eyes. Correct?

Ironically, one of the whistle blowers (Schultz) of this "white collar crime" has never been interviewed wearing anything but a t-shirt.

@@pjschmid2251 she is NOT pretty… not ugly either, just average

That’s because they are not violent. They don’t kill, rape, slash people in the street, push people in front of trains, or play the knockout game. Who would you rather live next to?

Eh I still think it's bad acting. Like an SNL exaggeration

Me too! I thought the expression was so off-putting and her intonation sucks, the way she smiled was also weird and didn't fit well with the scenarios given... but after seeing the real Elizabeth, welp, the acting were pretty accurate to the real person.

@@gogogadgetgorewhat a disturbing story

This!

it ain't that genius. average looking women are making a killing putting up content on instagram and especially onlyfans just by posing in bikinis. Elizabeth Holmes is a young upper middle class blonde blue eyed woman who bamboozled horny rich old white men due to her rare looks just by fluttering her eye lashes claiming she has an idea and the dudes bought it. Men especially when they are older men can be dumb asf as they know they can only attract women in their prime with money.

She’s Anna

Her dad was an Enron VP lol.

pouuusssseeeeyyyy

meh

At a certain point I think Holmes’ bizarre obsession with becoming Steve Jobs took over. In her mind, nothing else mattered. What brought her down was that Theranos was running out of cash towards the end, and to keep the scam afloat they had to sign a deal with Walmart and use the bogus machine on real patients.

Maybe he's one too.

This story fascinates me, I have watched and researched several docs, and Elizabeth and her company leaders were extremely threatening to any employees that questioned the what why and how. Plus Theranos covered up the failures and lied about anything that looked bad.

I don't think the idea is impossible but just a small amount of blood really?

highly recommend watching the doc on hulu. Pretty much anyone who tried to dispute her or the tech, she quickly discredited or got rid of them. Pressure from investors, retailers made her lie even more. A domino effect if you ask me

They did!

She does look so scary!!

Just look at how easy a but of strategic gaslighting sways public opinion. Elizabeth however wasn't dealing with the general public, but instead used similar strategy to persuade men of influence. Being a blonde, fairly attractive female with a unique ability to lie without blinking enabled her to reach deeper and deeper into the pockets of investors.

Neither am i coz have nothing we want from her. She chose people who were easy to fool. And I am sure if we had said something we would ahve been called jealous and whatnot.

It is easy to speak after the facts

I never believe in her idea. Firstly, if you've ever had blood test you know if they're testing for a variety of issues or diseases many vials are required. The fact that this was going to be down to one drop of blood that quickly made no sense.

​@@janejones7638 yeah but thats you as an individual. If we go case by case, every single individual in the world is different, not everyone is going to think at the moment they are taking their blood "o yeah that makes sense if they're testing for a variety of issues or diseases many vials are required" there is a lot of people that just dont care and dont question it, is that good?, NO, but is not wrong either. With so much science fiction nowdays and people praising technology and tech idols a lot of people would fall for the "one drop of blood test", if the idea was pitched to me i would personally say "is interesting" but i dont think i would say "this is BS" since the very first moment, later of course after i asked for second opinions or read on the subject. People need to understand the context of the 2000s and 2010s too, people wanted to jump on the Mark Zukerberg bandwagon, tech companies were being created left and right with kids fresh out of college getting billions of dollars for their tech products (youtube being bough by google, whatsapp being bought by facebook, etc...). A lot of people hate Facebook nowdays but back when it was created almost everyone wanted to be part of it.

Look at the makeup of the Theranos board. Most of them were old, rich, established white men without a scientific background living out a fantasy with EH as the head of their club. If there was one women on the board, I think EH would've been called out for details about the Edison and there would be no book or TV show.

Your comment 100% nailed it. That exactly describes this situation.

Damn...imagine that child was born simply to cushion the blow of the trial. Wonder if she is so messed up she doesn't even really care for the child. Does she even have maternal instincts?

Or she realized that she facing 20 years in prison, meaning once she got out she's be almost 60, and thus too old to have a baby. She probably decided this might be her only chance to become a mother. I'd do the same thing if I was risking the prospect of perhaps never becoming a parent.

@@johnmckenzie6661 no. U can still get pregnant in jail in ur visitations

@@johnmckenzie6661 Also in the time she was indicted she met someone and decided they where fit and suitable to be the Father of her kids. and got pregnant just in time for trial. If anything you don't want to be pregnant on trial as the anxiety and cortisol levels will be fed to the unborn child. Also remember she began a intimate relationship with her major investor simply out of greed and their shared knowledge that what they were doing was evil. Suddenly her actions are not out of selfishness? These people are highly smart and tactful, and they do not have the same 'emotional hang-ups' or virtue shackles of the everyday person. Having a child for practical selfish means is as old as social gathering. Plenty of Mother have had kids the same way others would buy the latest iPhone...because other people are doing it and you don't want to feel left out. The child is simply an accessory, a fashion statement, or a bullet proof vest from judgement.

@@ricebunnymoon4624 I guess I didn't consider that. Good point.

No see, this is where you are wrong. Elizabeth was the “idea machine” who hired the qualified personnel to create her idea. All of that money went into trying to create the product she dreamt up. Still, yes, ur right, ahole rich ppl doing dumb shizz. But, this is what rich ppl do. They hire a team to create their idea so eventually it builds and builds into so,etching else entirely. It creates its own monster. Regardless, she didn’t need to have a degree when she was able to hire ppl to create it. Obviously she build such a big mote around her so no one would find out she had no clue of the science behind it.

she will get 10 years max

Gross

Imagine finding out your mother only had you as a prop to try to avoid jail. The child will be genuinely better off without her, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she’s now desperately trying to get pregnant again, to avoid the correct consequence for her irresponsible and arrogant behaviour.

I hope she gets the maximum amount of prison time.

Is it normal to schedule the sentencing hearing so far in advance? I just found out it’s not until September. Apparently she’s free on bond. I wouldn’t put it past her to try and escape before the sentence hearing and I can see her possibly succeeding. Where do white collar criminals go to hide? Is it somewhere in South America?

Did she though? My boss has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and its opened my eyes to the depths of wickedness that a person can have. The limitless energy that some people can put into creating an illusion for their ego and their wealth. The uncaring nature of the damage they inflict on others to achieve their goals. I can never believe that someone wants to improve the world based solely on their statement that they want to improve the world.

She didn’t though - she wanted to be ‘the next Steve Jobs’ faaaaar more than she wanted to revolutionise healthcare.

It's called "Being American".

@@anmnou For the part of the recent generations who are sold on the whole reality TV BS, yes. I'm hoping that spell is wearing off tho.

They wouldn't have. No one would want to invest in a blood testing machine that sucks at what it does.

@@iloveplasticbottles I agree. However, the reason it 'sucked at what it did' was because she/ Theranos wasn't honest about what it could do. It could have been a great device that tested a few dozen disorders, instead of over 200 or however many they claimed.

@@cita_m yes, but she didn’t care if it worked or not. She just wanted to be great, a visionary, an icon. The other stuff was unimportant to Holmes

It really wasn't. I wish it were that simple. Some lab test need just the serum out of whole blood as red blood cells and plasma interfere with the reaction that's being tested, some tests just need plasma and others just red blood cells. To get those different blood products out of whole blood it requires a centrifuge. After that you need reagents to run the tests in the right amount and temp controlled incubation for the reaction to occur. You'll also need a reader for the test and waste portion of the reaction. Also, sometimes peoples' whole blood is not easily separated into the right portions from whole blood and require either special testing, more sample or need to be diluted out. Like the video says she had no lab scientist on the board because she knew it was sketchy.

The idea was great to con investors but EH ignored the science. That's why she evaded scientists and the FDA like the plague.

YET

Lol

😂😂😂 This is so funny to me!

I wish they could have used the music from the podcast on the show

@ Blues Or Bliss throw in the sickening vocal fry and there you go. Just gross.

Yeah. And why the messy hair and tacky makeup? She looks like a clown.

This is what confuses me so much. I was so adverse to finger pricks as a kid. I understand some people don’t have accessible veins… but I think most people do?

@@enbykenz When I was a kid, I was deathly afraid of those damn painful things. "Well, I'm not only delusional, but I'm a liar - a pathological liar. So there's that.."--E.H.

True..regular blood draws really aren't that painful...it's so quick and then it's over

Fr!

You're on the side of Russia, aren't you?

@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess the fuck?

But it's a setback for women since men already questions our abilities. Obviously anyone is capable of fraud and men have historically created the bulk of it but that doesn't mean they won't use this case (and Anna What's Her Name?) to justify why they shouldn't invest in women's ideas

@@ShelbySteele23 didn't justify the behavior or the situation in a whole, just happy that some white rich men lost their money, that's it

@@sillyseattlecat cool name. Like the one on 90 day fiance

Right?

I don’t get it

@@nataliabae3149 Enron was another scam company. She learned from her father how to become a scammer.

But was her father was "VP of Enron" just another one of Delvey's lies?

@@theultimatereductionist7592 umm, you're talking about the wrong woman. 🤣

The eyes have it

Same, only heard about her when the trailer for The Dropout came out and I'm in the medical field! (Not in America though).

I live in the Silicon Valley and didn't know about her until about three years ago.

Seems like you love yourself a little too much.

Glad you enjoy it!

I think she kind of did that on her own accord, nobody told her to do it.

I wonder if the voice actually did help her, by making her seem more masculine and intimidating so people would question her less.

If you read. It's not proven or anything that she actually changed her voice. Her parent have sworn she has always had a deep voice. And perception (people's memory) is way too inaccurate to be "proof".

@@kaylaclark4459 it's her parents lol of course they'll lie for her. Her voice is fake.

@@kaylaclark4459 maybe it was just the audio, but I've watched a couple other videos of her speaking years ago and her voice was much higher in each of the different clips. One of her professors said she was "shocked" upon hearing the change in her voice in a matter of months.

You should read the book by John Carreyrou "Bad Blood". You won't be able to put it down. It will also explain why she was "Driven" as she was.

Lol, same what'saap group 🤣

Lol I said the same thing! She'd be great as politician.

Whoa!!!!!!!!

Screaming

Yes! This is exactly what I thought lol!

No. A person sentenced to 364 days or less is sentenced to jail term. A prison term starts at '365 plus a day' So if someone's sentence is 7 months, it's 7 months in jail not prison. The highest penalty for a misdemeanor, without additional factors like VOP or repeat offender, is a year in jail not prison. but Yes, people whose sentences are greater than a year are held in jail until they're transferred to prison. but everyone who is convicted and sentenced for a crime isn't held in jail until they're transferred to prison.

and insulin

And birth control

@@kaylaclark4459 and insulin

Yeah but those insulin patches have NEEDLES. The patches without them only measure blood sugar