My intention here was to keep all important bits, me just theory crafting in my head, my confusion, and general discussion. I have removed the pain. :D look to the timestamps!

Marco's reaction to seeing Wally show up was one of both pure horror and confusion, and that is exactly how Wally should be done. Love it

DE, largely, has the courage to take risks that a lot of game companies would not. They're not afraid to fail, and that pays dividends in terms of creating narrative arcs and gameplay moments that are truly special.

Little fun fact about the portrait with operator's parents: their clothes change colors to match operator's

Keep the "I should've stayed in Duviri" line in mind because Duviri Paradox happens somewhere within the New War quest

As someone who watched quite literally the entire stream and kept screaming at Marco in my room about particular moments and relating to his changing his arms like 5 fucking times, this is a certified MarcoMeatball classic.

19:57 Always give me chills. You spend almost an hour fighting the war as other factions & the moment you see the Tenno arrive, it gives off the scale of this war. It's not just about us, its the entire system fighting this off. The New War is such a masterpiece.

39:33 an Eidolon is a living remain/remnant of a once whole Sentient... like the 3 Eidolons boss raid in Cetus are what remain of a whole giant Sentient.

Started playing Warframe like 8 years ago (Excalibur had Super Jump ability instead of radial javelin), I still can't comprehend how this game evolved from fun Space Ninja co-op game to this. Warframe has such an interesting lore and story quest are so damn hype because of the unique storytelling and new gameplay mechanics. Even if I do a lot of long breaks from this game, there's no way I won't be coming back to it when new quest drops, they are just so damn great and unique, you won't find anything similar, nowhere. This game has the best developers, I love the whole DE team!

I was watching the stream and remembered you talking about the finger in the back of the railjack. That finger belongs to Wally(The Man In The Wall), that being that appears in the end of The New War, if you notice his right hand you can see he is missing his index finger, and that finger has some lore you can learn if you do progress with the with the NecraLoid syndicate.

And this is how the solar system was almost destroyed in a domestic dispute. Coming from a broken household, what Ballas said to Lotus at the end... What she "made" him do... its your parents fighting, something all to familiar.

I love how the ending scene with the lotus and operator/drifter is a inverse of the final scene of the second dream with operator/drifter carrying her to a chair and talking about who she wants to be. Very poetic

9:30 Basically, as far as I care to figure, Ballas chained up under Erra was a ruse, to get Natah to trust them, but she realizes erra was killed. But Ballas likely rebuilt him, as another source of control and manipulation against natah. So he could ultimately use her energy to re-energize and control Praghasa. Why Mother Praghasa was "dead", I can only guess. but it could potentially be due to an old event called "Scarlet spear" where we were tasked to hack into sentient ships in space and orphix's on the surface of earth (before they learnt Warframe nullification) to get codes to break into Murex mind networks and upload malicious code/Viruses which sent them back in a bugged and erroring state to hopefully stall out the full invasion with a bunch of viruses. I have a feeling they probably caused a bit of damage when they got back to mother, enough to set them back for a time and probably render her... shut down/screwed up also... or Alternatively "mother" was what they affectionately called their home ship and it didn't have a personality like Hunhow, even if he was meant to be a whole terraforming ship of sorts also. (mother was a carpenter , Father was a farmer etc from the ropalolyst fight). Although in the time that whole event bought Ballas I guess helped fix stuff up and managed to teach the Orphix dropships/dropspear thingies to radiate warframe nullifying zones which would in turn screw us up, and so we'd have to use mechs in the next event to fight them back. Unfortunately a lot of this middle of the line story stuff is lost to new incoming players. :< 11:10 yeeah... the Unum is so powerful that she can basically render an enemy's ship to inert metal (full shutdown, no power, dead) if she detects ill-will towards her and her people (something from the lore bits)... so... I imagine the sentients basically just yeeted their murex at full speed and let gravity do the rest and The Unum couldn't do anything about it... 15:10 heart wrenchers... 15:25 for my brothers... T_T 19:35 Take your shot... For profit. o7 💥 27:55 kiss of deeeeeath. :< 30:00 ah yes. stunned mullet look. just how we like em. Killed you so hard you got kicked out of the game. xD anyways, I'll keep watching. :) 1:17:15 oh yeah, you missed that memo. cause you slept on Simaris. like a lotta people do. :V and you were basically rushing the story cause it's practically free now. 1:28:33 wow, that was a quick choice.... I did choose drifter if only cause the voice after a long choice on finding out whether or not you could switch eventually, hoping I'd get the drifter skills. but I still play operator till this day outside the quest. I preferred my operator cosmetics I had personally made via farming ingame stuff than the drifter in their default stuff at the time when it came out... and drifter would sometimes get stuck when void dashing.... 1:33:25 no reaction to the Unum stopping time when she was finally awake and drifter and ordis's funny lines? D: ripped off. laaaame. 1:35:33 and the disrespects keep on coming. X_X 1:36:40 and this is why you shoulda done duviri first, in some respects. but also, why you also shouldn't. it's a hard call. while it provides a lot of, "huh, whats going on here?" the real "aha" moments experienced during it when seeing the sights and some of the characters and locations of duviri only come when you get after the new war, into the later content. 1:56:06 Void corruption, went feral and nuts. Not "infested". They lost their minds and started lashing out and attacking each other, emotions went wild and they saw stuff... Since the void has been shown to feed on emotions and also in a way, memories among other stuff like... Uh... what you'll discover next I guess. Which likely happened after the tenno made the deal with the man in the wall entity and the void broke in completely.

As one of the supporters of Warframe since closed Beta where we only had 2 location tilesets, I love seeing people fall in love with what the game has become

I loved the observation about the Sentient ship doors looking like vocal chords. Everything the sentients make looks so horrifically organic despite being the only things the Orokin made that didn't, in some way, have meat in it.

"And now Ballas, I actually kinda feel pity for him." Oh how quickly The New War got rid of that. What an absolute bastard he is.

Watching this stream, revisiting New War after finishing it and watching Marco's perspective, has actually made this quest a lot better, showing me new bits of lore I didn't notice.

The horrific revelation at the end that Rell was speaking literally is still one of my favorite parts of this.

IM SO GLAD SOMEONE ELSE HAD AN UNSPOILED REACTION TO KAHL.

I was very fortunate to attend a panel by the Warframe writing team at TennoCon 2023. Wonderful people with a real gift for crafting compelling characters and building such an expansive, beautiful world. Very excited to see where the story of Warframe goes in 2024 and beyond. "We are seasons," indeed.

"Warframe is the best kept secret in gaming." Wow, I've never thought of it like that... but you are absolutely right. Like I don't know that a single person has ever intentionally spoiled anything in Warframe... The 40 hour build up weeds out anyone who wouldn't commit to the unspoken oath of secrecy.

1:06:41 Void travel in Warframe is kinda similar to warp travel in Warhammer40k. In Warframe, this is the 1st time ever that mankind can FTL travel to another star system, the Zariman... and of course, there are entities dwell in the Void, like The Man in the wall.

I love that part when Ballas kills you so hard thats log out you into nothingness.

Just finished the supercut. Superb choice of scenes to showcase! Don't worry too much if you missed things, there are a few Warframe Lore channels you can check out offline to gain more insight: StallordD, TheDSiege, and The Orokin Archives. Congratulations in finishing "The Sentients and The Lotus" Narrative Arc. Now, two quests await you as preludes toward the next Narrative Arc, the "Albrecht Entrati and The Man in The Wall" Saga: "Angels of The Zariman", and "The Duviri Paradox". I personally rank The Duviri Paradox a hair above The Sacrifice in terms of relatability. I hope you see why soon enough. As for The New War quest, it really showcases the ambition of Digital Extremes in terms of storytelling. Even after 10 years of offering this Game-as-a-Service, they have little to no corrosion in terms of visions of grandeur. With the first quest for the next Narrative Arc ("Whispers In The Walls"), I became very much convinced that the direction DE points toward is one ride to never forget. So excited!

I really respect the quality and speed of the content. You edited the stream in no time!!

We have to get him to listen to the fragmented one theme from the new whispers in the wall theme. Goosebumps every single time.

The scene at 07:05 is so interesting. I forgot it even existed. It drops multiple foreshadowing hints that Ballas is actually in charge, and Erra is just a pawn, even though he's the one holding the leash. It's amazing to hear Marco dropping Warframe memes while playing. Truly one of the best games ever.

I really love the man in the wall as an Entitiy /God . I am thrilled for you to play wispers in the wall. FIGHT ON TENNO

I chose Natah at the end, because to me, that is what she always was. Lotus was just a mask and now she can show her true form in my messages. She is a sentient.

I also love the detail of how the giant man in the wall is missing one finger and our Railjack has a reliquary drive that is powered by a giant finger

Did i watch the stream? Yes Will i watch this also? Also yes

I love how the corpus segment sound track incarnates elements from some of the oldest corpus tracks in the game its subtle but if your love those tracks you will recognize them like me.

It's actually interesting how many foreshadowing and references does this quest has for the Story that comes after it, many which I didn't notice on first playthrough, but obvious now that I finished all the available Quests. If you didn't played the Duviri Paradox before, this is the right time to do so, before you progress onwards with the other 'main' in my opinion because it is connected to the New War!

1:20:39 So this is the section I wanted to hear your opinion on. Most people interpret this cutscene as the proof that Eternalism is the true doctrine. I, however, see it as Presentism asserting itself. All of these other versions of our Operator dying one by one, I see that as all other possible realities, both past and future, either ceasing to exist or all coalescing into one, that being the PRESENT reality. The reason why the Drifter is unaffected is because he exists in the present reality so while his original reality is gone, he continues to exist in our present reality.(In case it wasn't clear, Drifter is not our Operator from the future but from a different reality) 1:22:46 No, "Hey kiddo" is Wally,AKA The Man In The Wall 1:49:30 BEHOLD! WALLY!

Nice work, glad you went through it and saw so many of the details that players loved ^^ I have to put a little marker on something you brought up; that some players didn't like the direction this was going. You had some insight into that, unfortunately it's a lot more simple and a lot more dumb than that. Players that didn't like The New War, or in fact most of the quests that revolve around the Operator, are of the opinion that in Warframe you should play as Warframes. They don't like non-Warframe game play, they frequently repeat phrases like 'I want to put the kid back in the cryo-pod' or that they wish they never found out what the Operator was. It's a little sad, and a little annoying, and a lot hilarious. Because we haven't had exclusively Warframe gameplay in Warframe since 2014, and not with the Operator, oh no, with things like the Archwing. We've had non-Warframe modes in Warframe for close on a decade now. So... yeah... weird people.

1:36:13 I love how Marco mentions that he loves Star Wars, then Cephalon Cy makes a direct reference to the original movie

Watched this whole video, brought me back through the story a lot. Thanks for sharing and streaming!

I loved when he said "It's driftin time" and tenno went drifting in the ocean all alone

2 HOUR SUPERCUT IS HERE! I wasn't able to see all of the stream, so I'm interested to see how he reacts to everything Edit: So, to clear up some confusion on the deal you took on The Zariman (if it wasn't during the stream). Your doppleganger is a sort of... avatar of The Man In The Wall ("Wally," who Rell was holding back in CoH, and that thing Lotus saw at the end of the quest). The Deal collapsed every single timeline where The Operator exists down to 2 linked times, where you're given Void Powers by Wally, and where you're left to Drift on the Zariman and age to become The Drifter. But The Deal also allowed the timelines to interact, which is why Operator and The Drifter can switch places. Through the Schrodinger-Haven that is Eternalism, both exist simultaneously and can be summoned to each other's timeline.

all as one Narmer is not dead We are root. We branches. We shall rebuild what was lost

I just finished the New War myself the Day you posted this Vid so seeing it like this from a different perspective while it's still fresh in my own mind is incredible

Thanks so much for uploading!

Warframe is one of the things that make me wish we could mindblow ourselves just to experience this epicness for the first time AGAIN. Like Hunhow's part. God. Damn. Was I feeling comraderie with Shadow when tenno pulled up "Not if you help me" line out of fucking nowhere lmao. Rip Shadow's neck from that snap xD

It's interesting you finally chose to recognize her as Lotus. I personally chose Natah, because like us, we must accept her as who she is - and she was, first and foremost, Natah. Who she becomes is her story to write, her choice to make.

Such a great journey. Been loving every step of it! Much love Marco

i watched the entire stream, from the start. Is really different to look at someone playing this quest before some years, i really enjoy watching your streams as someone that doesnt know the story til the present time, and your reactions are really similar as when i played it, is so nostalgic man.

Marco , have u try listening to both "we lift together" and "For Narmer" both at the same time , its creepy how both these song chorus mix so well together and do take note that both this song was created years apart!

Well done! Also, should you have the time, you can check out the…interesting…lore logs in Deimos, with the Necraloid syndicate room, detailing the discovery of the Void. Assuming you haven’t already, anyway. They recently changed things so that you don’t need to rank up fully with the Entrati family to read those logs.

Can't wait to see Marco do the Whispers in the walls. The Void/wally stuff gets crazy.

25:35 I theorized that Valeria was Teshin's SO/wife/partner, since the Veil makes you see the person you love the most The zariman lesson on Eternalism btw is what confirms Gomaitru's (Albrecht's daughter) true name, Euleria!

Some of my thought's While ballas mourns margolis, I think it was ballas that whispered in the ears of the council, causing her death, removing the tenno's adoptive mother, and protector. All so he could have control over the tenno. But control was problematic, so he took natah and turned her into the lotus, controlling the tenno through her. To me, Ballas is the great trickster and corruptor.

Got part way through the video. Replayed new war and finished the video. It's just so good.

I really do love New War. Sure it’s not as deep as Sacrifice and Chains but what it lacks in a gripping personal story it makes up for in a gripping arc conclusion. More than ever, Lotus is given the development to fully form her character. The themes of domestic abuse are so heavy in New War and I was enthralled by how well DE pulled it off. It was such a good risk

The ending scene with the theme playing always gets me in tears

I love the breacher moa so much "Glorious Destruction!"

*Wally appear* Marco: "Oh. My. F*cking. God!!!" Well… basically, yeah ! I mean, that's pretty much what he is x)

I enjoy watching you as I play

I can't wait to see Marco react to whispers in the wall. The music is absolutely top notch.

People have been suggesting lore channels, one lore video I'd recommend is Brozime's Warframe Timeline video. It's not going to be as detailed and in-depth as lore breakdowns from dedicated lore channels but it's a good cliff notes of the important things and was made as a sort of "Lead Up to Duviri" primer.

from 7 hours vod to 1 hours edited supercut with timestamp dude you cooked this video

It's certainly not lost while playing as the Drifter, but the final mission as the operator hit *really* hard for me. Watching basically your parents in this horrible, abusive relationship fight while you as a child are struggling to even be able to influence it. Thank you for the edit, it was fun listening to your thoughts! I always crave replaying games like this vicariously through people playing them for the first time.

"For Narmer" put me in a state of rage instantly when it defiled "We all lift together"...

New War didn't really hit me right, when it came out. With time, it's become one of my favorite parts. Hunhow is absolutely a highlight. I absolutely adore his voice.

i really REALLYY love you reaction and thoughts to this game keep it up i love you!

The New War... Man what an experience it was when I did this 2yrs ago. I feel like the name of the quest isn't about some new war with the Sentients or with Narmer, that was a continuation of the Old War. Instead it's about the new war against Wally. And the Wally saga is already off to a strong start.

When Hemhaw said the line it made me sad 😥

I love how this quest introduces two new UI skins just to bring us in to the sense of scale with TNW. We play as a Grineer for one short sequence, then a Corpus for another sequence, just to make us see this system-wide war from a worm's-eye view. The UI here pulls us in to their place to make us feel small in the midst of it all. Makes Ballas' conquest seem so much more threatening and monumental. It's not a Marvel-style team-up, but rather a war on many fronts - a war all of them lose.

The way I see it, your observation about body parts holds the key to the whole thing, as every single person who has ever come into contact with Wally seems to have lost one, be it parvos, lotus, Albrecht, and even the drifter, but then, in the New War cinematics, we are shown multiple versions of ourselves, who die one after the other, until only two remain, meaning that they were somehow discarded, I believe that Wally's behavior and various covert deals with various characters through the game so far tend to indicate that he is searching for something, or rather, someone, he tries with whoever he encounters, only to move on to the next candidate upon failure, and I believe that what he is searching for is an actual body, a physical form to inhabit and be able to physically interact with the origin dimension, while at the same time getting rid of any obstacles (factions) in the way, I think that Wally has already concluded that the body he's searching for is a Tenno, and what he's doing now is to determine, by way of elimination, which of the Tenno, and which version of said Tenno is the one he is looking for.

So long story short, an Eidolon is a "dead" Sentient that's trying to heal itself. During the Old War a particularly powerful Sentient landed on Earth and found out that Kuva could heal the Sentients of the Void sickness that prevents them from reproducing properly. If he shared this discovery with the rest of the Sentients they would have won the War. Gara fought the Sentient and basically blew up a nuke killing herself in the process (and creating the Gara Thot Lake). The Eidolons are pieces of this ancient Sentient who come out of the lake searching for the other pieces to put itself back together. For eons a different Tenno, Revenant, held the pieces at bay but Revenant grew weak over time and now we have to go there and kick their ass every night to prevent this ancient Sentient from waking up and revealing this secret to the rest.

I remember it takin me a solid hour to get past the "stealth" part with the decaons in Fortuna, glad to see Marco still enjoying all the story bits even if it's a bit hard to keep everything straight. I know if anyone wants to deep dive into the lore there's a few channels about it but StallorD has a pretty good coverage, and iirc Brozime made a video that hits the important bits.

I love watching people completing The New War! It's first major quest released after I started playing, and it feels like a major milestone for me now. 41:16 after I've heared mash of For Narmer and We All Lift Together, I cannot unhear it. Every time I hear chorus of one song, another rises in my head. It looks like songs were not meant to have resemblance between them, but to actually play together! Iirc authors said they didn't do that intentionally, but I don't really believe that. They fit each other too well.

the cutscenes in this game are such a treat the dialog and expressions dont feel forced just everything about the story telling is just so good.

I am SO glad you chose Lotus for her. Natah is who she was originally, sure. Margulis was who she was forced to be. But she CHOSE to be Lotus. Lotus is who she wanted to be. Lotus is who she is.

I chose Natah at the end of this quest (after 30 minutes of mulling it over) because that form is her truth and origin. In a way, I see it as her taking back who she was while keeping er experiences to heart in a sort of do-over. I kinda was hoping to see you react to her inbox message. It really was something to behold.

It has only occured to me while watching this that the man in the wall isnt talking about the other kids in the zariman when he mentions "saving all of them" or at least he isnt *only* tslking about the zariman kids.

I like the grandiose, but I also like the small and personal. Warframe can pull it off, it works. Sure, some moments in New War could have been more fleshed out, like Erra's death (probably?). But not to the point of ruining anything because it still makes sense. We rarely get to chose how glorious our final moment will be. Though, I guess it still felt personal. Just on a larger scope. We got to see with how much dedication the Grineer fight, and get so see their human side. Kahl fought for a future, for his Brothers. Then Veso, someone who obviously has authority to the point of issuing a shipwide override, but just didn't have the recklessness required to climb the corporate ladder much further. Both of them in essence good people and we probably cut down endless amounts of good people when taking a Warframe into battle. Then of course, the Man in the Wall a.k.a Wally a.k.a. The Indifference a.k.a. Ma dude. We owe him our life, but to what end. To this day I don't think he's evil, nor indifferent for that matter. But more on that when you catch up fully. EDIT: spelling

Watched the whole stream, can't wait for duviri

Your drifter gives me some intense Will Riker (from Star Trek TNG) vibes

You made the right choice at the end. And there is ONLY one right choice. Margulis is not only a lie, it is THE lie. The lie Ballas forced her into. Margulis was a real person, a true mother figure to the Tenno. She is dead. For the Lotus to wear her skin and carry her name is an affront to her sacrifice. Natah was the name she was born with, the name of our mortal enemy. The name of the predator that slithered into our nest to devour the young Tenno. The name she rejected when she saw them...and loved them. Lotus was the name she chose. The name of the one that loved us, of her own free will. The name she bears in defiance of the others who attempted to shape her to do their bidding. There is only one right choice. And you made it. I'm proud of you, Tenno.

This quest sits with me like how the original Star Wars trilogy sits with a lot of people. Sometimes it's nice to set aside a quiet weekend to relive the experience again.

Your drifter is gigachad, lol.

41:33 fun fact: if you play "We all lift together" and "For narmer" at the same time near the end at the chorus it turns into a duet between the two songs

I just finished this quest, my God it was everything from hype to stress to scary to epic to mysterious to glorious. I went through Gears of War, Splinter Cell, Elite Dangerous and Nier Automata in ONE QUEST! 10/10 man I am exhausted lol

1:19:08 the Sentient were created by the Orokin empire, environment adaptive sentient A.I to colonize other worlds and prepare them for humanity arrival... But the Sentient gone rogue against mankind and thus Orokin and Sentient went to war, The Old War.

Nobody will see this comment but you know what I like about how Ballas is defeated? It's that even with him, even with the most awful of ugly, broken beings, he was made vulnerable by giving him the one thing he needed most in all the world, if only for a few moments. By taking away his pain.

One of the things that often gloss over. Is that you dont choose who lotus becomes, you only choose which of the three aspects of her, takes the fore. Lotus becomes like the morrigan, the fates, the triune goddess, the maiden the mother and the crone. Margulis embodied mercy, healing, and a gentle nature, where natah was strength, war, and cruelty in necessity. But lotus embodies the balance of them

honestly feels like at least 70% of what happens in warframe is a complete question mark to a lot of people as to whats happening, but that doesn't stop it from being GORGOUS

I wish we can use those UI. The Grineer UI gives a Doom feel of design, and I like the crosshair on the Corpus ui

I can't wait for him to have access to the Lore PC. Also, people who pick Margulis should be on a list.

Margulis was the human lover of Ballas who defended the Tenno when the first war ended, she fought to prevent them from being executed, and secreted them away into the first dream. She was executed with the Jade light and Ballas lost his mind. When he encountered Natah, who was a mimic created to infiltrate the orokin and kill the Tenno operators. He noted her mimicry and made her into a version of Margulis call "The Lotus", programming her with the parts of Margulis memories that served his purposes.

All of those tenno pods in the background (around 0:55)

33:00 there are atleast 26 million registered users

I played this quest in one sitting because I do not feel good not having the actual Lotus talking to me so I wanted her back so badly. I missed out on that cool log in screen.

Meatball: im eager to see how we get our warframe powers back. Us: thats the neat part, you dont. Enjoy.

1:52:30 he says that she was forced to be margulis? I took it as she being the mother she wanted to be. Do I have that mixed?

The cool thing about the Drifter, is that its the same template (so to speak) as the operator, but is a completely different person. As soon as they shook hands with the man in the wall, The Operator and Drifter ceased being the same person

oh my GOD i just realised something!! when the drifter sits with the operator you can see his hand glow green for just a moment!

Natah is the life that she left. Margulis is the life she was forced into. The Lotus is the one she formed for herself. The Lotus is the only correct choice.

Hunhow should definitely voice all the warframe bios.

I love that his Drifter is just a Gigachad 😂😂