Muslim Vs Christian : Before Abraham was, i am

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Abu Zarrar

Abu Zarrar

7 жыл бұрын

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Debate between a Muslim & Christian "Before Abraham was, I am"

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@adamshabbeer8977
@adamshabbeer8977 7 жыл бұрын
Mash Allah. This muslim brother is very eloquent. May Allah aid him and aid us all in this deen All. Ameen.
@thelogicalmale2515
@thelogicalmale2515 7 жыл бұрын
Great video brother, hope to see more soon!
@nsimba781
@nsimba781 7 жыл бұрын
God would not deceive people by making them think that it was Jesus whom they were crucifying, when in fact it was someone else. God doesn’t lie!
@WSMTarek
@WSMTarek 7 жыл бұрын
The Muslim brother's speech is motivating, may Allah reward you brother, the Christians brothers also seemed to realize their short comings, I pray that Allah guides them.
@WSMTarek
@WSMTarek 7 жыл бұрын
The Muslim brother has solid knowledge, may Allah reward him.
@Egyptwasblack
@Egyptwasblack 7 жыл бұрын
Allah the demon couldnt guide the possessed muhammad. Fake cult. Fake god
@fullergoeasyonthepepsicool3625
@fullergoeasyonthepepsicool3625 7 жыл бұрын
Tarek Mousa Only Jesus can reward a man. He is God, not Allah..
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 4 жыл бұрын
Hamza Nuur But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accurse. Galatians 1:8
@christopherwells3426
@christopherwells3426 5 жыл бұрын
The Muslim brother made a mistake. The Qur'an never says the word bible. It speaks about the Torah and the Injeel. What was originally given to Moses and Jesus pbut. We don't accept the whole of the bible you have today. We accept only what remains of the truth. The Qur'an is the final revelation from the Creator. It is the authority over all previous scripture.
@alidurrani4645
@alidurrani4645 7 жыл бұрын
There is a very simple answer to that brother, lets check out both the verses and compare if the words are same or different, i have hebrew and english versions of bible and while studying both of them i have concluded that the words are different, If you check the Exodus 3:14 it says "And God said unto Moses, I am that I am : and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I am hath sent me unto you." and in Hebrew the word אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה is used which in greek is eh-yeh , or YHWH which i agree but check out John 8:58 which says "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." now check the Hebrew ἐγὼ εἰμί which in greek is ego eimi and these both words are not verily the same ego in greek means I eimi in greek means am which is not the Words that God used for himself, God said He is eh-yeh, YHWH, but the scholars translate it, to be eh-yeh i am, i was, i will be, so it is divine being, it is GOD. on the other hand ego = I eimi = am, straight forward words, doesn't claim divinity which means Jesus did not actually mean to say YHWH or אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה or God, But inspite said i am which is true, everyone was in the Gods place before birth
@lo2246
@lo2246 Жыл бұрын
????? Bro took out the whole context of John 8.
@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu
@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu 6 ай бұрын
That was hilarious 😂😂😂explanation I have ever heard from abdoool..
@UltimatumDemon
@UltimatumDemon 4 ай бұрын
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu Haha, yeah. You know what would be even funnier? If you could record your face while doing the same research 😂😂😂
@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu
@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu 4 ай бұрын
@@UltimatumDemon well I would give you the same advice but I know it will hurt your feelings & you know the reason your face is much worse but I bet, you won't be able to beat your false prophet mooohumad coz he is worst of all, favorite demon of Allah the shaitan whom he worshipped...
@christopherwells3426
@christopherwells3426 5 жыл бұрын
He is teaching you! You don't know anything! If you don't KNOW that the CREATOR is ONE! NOT A HUMAN BEING! You don't know anything!!!
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Wells Jesus was fully God and fully man, the spirit of him was God
@NurIslam4JJ1
@NurIslam4JJ1 7 жыл бұрын
What is the name of this brother? Somebody can help me. MasyaAllah i can feel his passion to this deen.
@easyak
@easyak 7 жыл бұрын
more videos of this brother!!!
@ujimajame4601
@ujimajame4601 7 жыл бұрын
In my estimation, he misrepresented Islam as he was too aggressive and overtalked the Christians he was conversing with. This is not the proper attitude a Muslim should have and is in sharp contrast to, not only, the Prophet Muhammad, but even Ahmad Deedat, who this person allegedly is following. Also, he wrongly agrees that the Qur'an commands you to read the Bible. It says nothing of the sort. It says you must BELIEVE the Creator sent scriptures before this, specifically, the Suhuf (original message sent with Abraham), the Zabur (the original Book sent to David - as opposed to the Psalms), the Taurat (the original Book sent to Moses - not the corrupted and changed Torah), the Injeel (the original Book Jesus came with - not the Gospel according to this man or that one) and, of course, the Qur'an (sent to te final prophet, Muhammad and never changed from is original form and the only Book protected from corruption).
@lost_poet_
@lost_poet_ 7 жыл бұрын
Whats the name of the muslim brother? Havent seen him at Speakers Corner before
@Schorpioen.
@Schorpioen. 7 жыл бұрын
John 14:9 Jesus answered don't you know me philip , even i have been among you such a long time ? Anyone who has seen me has seen the father . How can you say show us the father .
@nuur7348
@nuur7348 7 жыл бұрын
something i realised from this video is that they said moses was told that gods name or what to refer to god as to the egyptians was I AM. so when jesus says before abraham was I AM surely that should mean before abraham there was god, if this was the case it just means that jesus was reminding them that abraham is merely a man and that everyman has a beginning and before him was I AM/GOD. grammatically speaking: before abraham was I AM, makes no sense but perhaps its written in the text differently for i am not sure.
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 4 жыл бұрын
Hamza Nuur But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accurse. Galatians 1:8
@imranarif7533
@imranarif7533 7 жыл бұрын
Why is it soo difficult for people to believe in the concept of there is only one god. If you believe in more than one god then what is the difference in stories of zeus etc where there were multiple gods?? The truth is when jesus comes back most people will not even recognise him by his words... Because people find it difficult to believe that there is only one god??
@ibnkafir950
@ibnkafir950 7 жыл бұрын
Imran Arif Why is it difficult for people to believe in the concept of three persons in one God? If the Hebrew scriptures are read in plain English, the concept of multiple persons can be derived such as Genesis 1:26, Genesis 19:24, Psalm 45:6-7. The plural of magesty argument may be used to Genesis 1:26 but even Jews come up with multiple possible interpretations which shows that plural of magesty concept mat not be known. The other two passages cannot use plural of magesty as explanation. In regards to the scema: the Lord your God is one, the Hebrew word Echad is used. It is the same word used Genesis 2:24 in regards to husband and wife marrying and become one flesh. If you want to become consistent and insist on absolute oneness then Husband and Wife should become Siamese twins.
@imranarif7533
@imranarif7533 7 жыл бұрын
Ibn Kafir all the other Abraham religions believed in one god, not 3 in 1. It doesn't say anywhere in the old Christian scriptures that jesus said he is god. jesus said me and my lord are one, he also said to the decile you and me are one? With your intrprepitation does that make the desciples part of the god also? Or was he talking about one referring to "same message being spread by them? Surah Maryam (verses 88 ? 95) 88. And they say: ?The Most Gracious (Allah) has begotten a son (or offspring or children).? 89. Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing. 90. Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins, 91. That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Gracious (Allah). 92. But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Gracious (Allah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children). (You can read in detail about the story of Jesus in this publication here) 93. There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Gracious (Allah) as a slave. 94. Verily He knows each one of them, and has counted them a full counting. 95. And everyone of them will come to Him alone on the Day of Resurrection (without any helper, or protector or defender).
@ibnkafir950
@ibnkafir950 7 жыл бұрын
Imran Arif I don't use the passages you specified to prove the divinity. Here is the question to you: Are these sayings belonging only to God:and no prophet is permitted to use no matter their stature such as Elijah, Moses, Abraham? . I am the lord of the Sabbath . Before Abraham ever was, I am . I am the first and the last . Your sins are forgiven spoken as if given the authority to do so. . Accept worship when a disciple addresses him as my Lord and my God. In regards to Jews before Jesus, I wouldn't speculate as to whether they would believe in a Triune God or not. Even Rabbis are not confident in the plural of majesty interpretation of Genesis 1:26. There were some Jews that did accept Jesus as messiah and others that didn't.
@mattjennings5864
@mattjennings5864 7 жыл бұрын
"47 If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 FOR I DID NOT SPEAK ON MY OWN, BUT THE FATHER WHO COMMANDED ME TO SAY ALL THAT I HAVE SPOKEN. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. SO WHATEVER I SAY IS JUST WHAT THE FATHER HAS TOLD ME TO SAY.” (john 12:47-50) Realize that jesus has never spoke of his own word, BUT, of what the father has TOLD him to say!!!!! ;p;p;p;p ;)~SMOOCH~
@ibnkafir950
@ibnkafir950 7 жыл бұрын
Lehmin Long I am not quite following you. Are you trying to say that Jesus is some proxy that can say things only belonging to God? I take it that you are acknowledging that Jesus is saying things that only God is authorized to say which Muslims like to deny.
@christopherwells3426
@christopherwells3426 5 жыл бұрын
Where in the new testament does Jesus say he came to die for the sins of the world???
@marcusdanizel9816
@marcusdanizel9816 5 жыл бұрын
Seek you shall find
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 4 жыл бұрын
Hamza Nuur But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accurse. Galatians 1:8
@79Sarwar
@79Sarwar 7 жыл бұрын
Liked 👍
@madedigital
@madedigital 7 жыл бұрын
adam was the first pre flood, then adam sinned too...in the other beginning came the word and the word was god and i am was the word.
@someonex7617
@someonex7617 3 жыл бұрын
The word with god If the word (with) god that’s mean it is not same god
@kurokody9057
@kurokody9057 4 жыл бұрын
Show me the bible when jesus said im a prophet dont worship me ?
@Adam-br9gr
@Adam-br9gr 3 жыл бұрын
If you read the bible with an open mind there’s plenty of verses where it states it.
@Immortalus98
@Immortalus98 3 жыл бұрын
better question is find where it does say worship me
@rakibandgalib
@rakibandgalib 7 жыл бұрын
wonderfully explained
@darkness-fk7mx
@darkness-fk7mx 3 жыл бұрын
Please subtitle Indonesia
@johnalexander4940
@johnalexander4940 7 жыл бұрын
bad video quality, proves only that yelling over your opponent makes good propaganda for those who love confusion. Peace
@madedigital
@madedigital 7 жыл бұрын
jesus spoke greek too, (syriac) pre arabic this guy is wrong.
@mlzanercik
@mlzanercik 7 жыл бұрын
John 8:24
@MixtapeKilla2004
@MixtapeKilla2004 7 жыл бұрын
In John 8:58, Jesus tells the Pharisees, "Before Abraham was, I am." He claimed to be the "I AM" of Exodus 3:14, which is God Almighty.
@ibnkafir950
@ibnkafir950 7 жыл бұрын
Libertarian Prince Also check out the early church fathers from the first and second centries. They also believed rhat Jesus is God. The Muslim Jeaus certainly doesnt exist. The question to the Muslims would be who are the successors to the so called Muslim disciples to the Muslim Jesus. They cant find any.
@ShahrukhKhan-ld5wu
@ShahrukhKhan-ld5wu 4 жыл бұрын
The "I AM" of exodus 3:14 in Hebrew is 'Ehey esher Ehey' but in John 8:58 it is 'ego emi'
@casimirodziewit2363
@casimirodziewit2363 4 жыл бұрын
Shahrukh Khan that’s because “ego emi” is Greek
@X266.
@X266. 7 жыл бұрын
Young Wesley Snipes
@rhandsrh
@rhandsrh 7 жыл бұрын
To explain the DEITY of The LORD JESUS CHRIST to Those who Aren't Seeking Truth is very difficult to do. God has given a Revelation about HIS SELF and HE doesn't seem to be too concerned about us understanding it from a human perspective,(Isa.55:8).(That's why it's faith In GOD!). If you take all the false religions and group them together vs Historic Christianity this is what you get, Who GOD isn't, what HE didn't do, what HE couldn't do, what HE wouldn't do etc. Plus it's your own good works that get you to heaven! True Christianity Teaches-Who GOD Is, What HE Did, And Could and Would Do etc. And it's Faith In The Finish Works of The LORD JESUS CHRIST that get you to Heaven! "I would say to Muslims,( Look What You're Missing Out On!)."
@rhandsrh
@rhandsrh 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response, being a born-again Christian I believe that whoever is responsible for penning The Gospels were inspired by God to do so. They teach about the Lord Jesus Christ through Whom we can have Salvation and a Personal Relationship with God, therefore my faith is in God, not man. My understanding is that Muhammad was Illiterate and that the Quran wasn't compiled until 150 to 200 years after his death. Do you have the names of those who penned the Quran? If not why do you believe in the Quran? God talked to Moses directly why did he do this with Mohammed? How do you know that Mohammed is inspired?
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Raoul Hands the qu'ran was complied 100 to 150 years after he died?? LOL WHAT? You're misinformed sorry. Please just look at the responses I gave your fellow ignorant Christian brothers in the comment section, so you can see how little sense Christianity makes and how some prophesies in the old and new testament refer to Our prophet Muhammad pbuh. (can't be bothered to copy and paste the same arguments) Peace.
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Raoul Hands oh wow all I had to do was click on your channel only to find out you have a tab full of islamphobic and anti Islamic channels. Wow. Not sure if I should bother with someone who watches converted2islam, David Woods, Jay Smith, Sam shouman and the rest of your lying "scholars" who by the way have been exposed multiple times for lying and being dishonest. It's all over KZfaq. Peace.
@rhandsrh
@rhandsrh 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response, I was responding to your criticism of the authors of the Gospels that they were unknown. The point I was trying to make is that whoever is responsible for the Gospels that God inspired them to write about His Son In Whom we find Salvation and a Relationship with God, (The Message is more important than the messenger). To comment on your last comment, do you think that these men who were tortured and martyred and suffered for the Name of Christ where Lying? I don't believe Muhammad companions live to be over 150 years what I meant was the Quran itself being compiled in book form. Concerning people in that time memorizing the Quran, A similar argument can be made about first century Christians and what they were taught about the Lord Jesus Christ what they memorized and what they believe for 600 years before Muhammad. According to Muslims what Christians believed in the first century is not being taught today, somehow it changed. Do you think that these early Christians would sit back and allowed their teachings be corrupted through out history with out correcting them?
@ujimajame4601
@ujimajame4601 7 жыл бұрын
The Muslims on this video, though they are on the side of right, are too aggressive and domineering, often not allowing the other person to speak. This is contrary to the character of the Prophet Muhammad and his diplomacy and cooperativeness with non-Muslims was well-known. The reality is that the statement "Before ABRAHAM was, I was" deals with the Qadr (Pre-destination) of THE CREATOR or the ability of ALLAH (God) where He KNEW, WROTE, WILLED and CREATED ALL THINGS in due proportion, BEFORE THEY CAME INTO BEING and according to precise measures -Read: Jeremiah 1:4-5: "Then the word of the Lord came unto me (Jeremiah), saying, 'BEFORE I FORMED THEE in the belly I KNEW THEE'; and BEFORE THOU CAMEST FORTH OUT OF THE WOMB I sanctified thee, and I ORDAINED THEE A PROPHET unto the nations." Prophet SOLOMON is reported in Proverbs 8:23-27, to have said, “AGES AGO I WAS SET UP AT THE FIRST, BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE EARTH. When there were no depths I was brought forth, when there were no springs abounding with water, BEFORE THE MOUNTAINS HAD BEEN SHAPED, before the hills, I was brought forth; BEFORE HE HAD MADE THE EARTH with its fields, OR THE FIRST OF THE DUST OF THE WORLD WHEN HE ESTABLISHED THE HEAVENS, I WAS THERE.” According to Job 38:4 and 21, God addresses Prophet JOB as follows: “Where were you WHEN I LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH? Tell me, if you have understanding... You Know, for YOU WERE BORN THEN, and THE NUMBER OF YOUR DAYS IS GREAT!” In Islam, we have a tradition in which Abu Huraira reported that the Prophet Muhammad said: "There was an argument between ADAM and MOSES, peace be upon them both, IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR LORD. ADAM got the better of MOSES. Moses said: 'Are you THAT ADAM whom Allah created with His Hand and breathed into him His sprit, and commanded angels to fall in prostration before him and He made you live in Paradise with comfort and ease? Then you caused the people to FALL DOWN TO THE EARTH because of your lapse.' Adam said: 'Are you THAT MOSES whom Allah selected for His Messengership and for His conversation with him and conferred upon you the TABLETS, in which everything was CLEARLY EXPLAINED and granted you the audience in order to have confidential talk with you. What is your opinion, HOW LONG WAS THIS WRITTEN IN THE TORAH BEFORE I WAS CREATED?' Moses said: 'FORTY YEARS before.' Adam said: 'Did you not see these words: 'Adam committed an error and he was enticed to (do so).' He (Moses) said: Yes. Whereupon, he (Adam) said: DO YOU THEN BLAME ME FOR AN ACT WHICH ALLAH had ORDAINED FOR ME 40 YEARS BEFORE HE CREATED ME? Allah's Messenger, peace be upon him, said: This is how Adam came to get the better of Moses. (source: Sahih Muslim Hadith Book of Destiny: 6411) Also, the oft-quoted John 1:1, where it says “IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, and the Word was with God and the Word was God,” has been proven to be, not only NOT IN THE OLDEST TEXTS that they found but actually the words of PHILO of Alexandria, who was BORN BEFORE either JESUS or JOHN were born!
@patrickk.6449
@patrickk.6449 7 жыл бұрын
Genesis 6:3.... nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years and Adam die !
@MrYliYli
@MrYliYli 4 жыл бұрын
In the beginning 1. John Verse 1:1--PLAN: Translated from the Greek LOGOS--meaning: something said including the thoughts; by implication: a topic or subject of set discourse; also reasoning with the mental faculties,and motive. Thayer's Greek Lexicon,Pages 380-382. This Greek word LOGOS shows to be itself the Greek translation of the original Hebrew word DABAR, which means: Yahweh's revealed will... His WHOLE PLAN and purpose for mankind. The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible,Volume 4, Pages 870-871. Some of the most blatant MISUNDERSTANDING AND DECEIT has arisen because of Yahchanan 1:1-5. These five Scriptures are used to justify the PAGAN concept of the Trinity that still exists in the religions of today; trying to justify the doctrine that Yahshua Messiah "pre-existed," that it was Yahshua Who was being referred to as the WORD, that Yahshua was a god (el) previously, and now, Yahshua Messiah is the god (el) of the "new testament." All this is due to the translators' lack of Spiritual Understanding. Egyptian Mythology and Egyptian Christianity by Samuel Sharpe, pages 13-14,The Religions of Ancient Egypt and Babylonia by A.H. Sayce, Pages 229-230, A Statement of Reasons for Not Believing the Doctrine of Trinitarians by Andrew Norton, Page 94. If one would like to pursue this study, using authoritative writings, we recommend our book Did Yahshua Messiah Pre-Exist? published by The House of Yahweh, P.O. Box 2498, Abilene,Texas 79604. Ephesians 3:11. Yahchanan 1:1 When he became his son? Heb 1:5 For example, to which of the malakim did He ever say: You are My Son, I, TODAY, I have become your Father? And again: I Myself shall become His Father, and He Himself will become My Son? 6 But when He again brings His firstborn into the inhabited world, He says: Let all the malakim of Yahweh worship Him. Heb 1:3 Who, being the reflection of the perfection of Yahweh, and the representation of Yahweh's plan, by upholding all things concerning that which was spoken by Yahweh through the Law and the Prophets, when He had purged sins, sat down on the right hand of Yahweh on high, 4 Becoming so much better than the malakim, He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than they. Ge 1:26 Then Yahweh said: I will make MAN in My image, according to My likeness; they will have rulership over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, over the cattle, and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth. •THE MESSIAH WAS THE FIRST BORN OF MAN MADE IN HIS IMAGE... MANY MORE TO COME Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible Father, the firstborn of all that Yahweh is creating. 16 Because before Him all things were created that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or rulerships, or principalities, or powers; all things were created on account of Him, and for Him. 17 And He is over all things, and all things have been placed together under Him. 18 For He is the Head of the body, the called out ones, Who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the pre-eminence.
@RoyalFalcon777
@RoyalFalcon777 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus was there from beginning and all my Muslim and non Muslim brothers and sisters should be Hamble to see His grace and sacrifice for each one of Us!! John 3:16
@MrYliYli
@MrYliYli 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why Christians believes that the creator of all things was caught by surprised by satan and needed to come in flesh to defeat satan.
@nnamdiubbaonu4381
@nnamdiubbaonu4381 2 жыл бұрын
Caught by surprise?
@MrYliYli
@MrYliYli 2 жыл бұрын
@@nnamdiubbaonu4381 because man sinned he himself became a man to die for mankind’s behalf. Not true. He knew that mankind would sinned and allowed us to go our own way it has been proven to me that without the laws we have what we see today. In Isa 24:5 it states that all this suffering is because we have broken the laws. Yahweh has a plan according to genesis 1:26 mankind will be made in his image and likeness but it’s a process. Yahshua messiah is the first man to be made in perfect righteousness just like Yahweh. The first of many brothers “ mankind “ right now all those who break or teach against the laws is in the image of Satan that’s why he said we belong to whom we serve. Yahshua’s death was to buy us back from Satan when we chose to serve Yahweh that’s what Hebrew says about Yahshua’s sacrifice.
@nnamdiubbaonu4381
@nnamdiubbaonu4381 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrYliYli how is it not true just because he already knew it?
@MrYliYli
@MrYliYli 2 жыл бұрын
@@nnamdiubbaonu4381 First what was the reason for mankind? He created mankind to give them rulership over every thing his fingers made that’s the universe. He already has ownership he doesn’t need anyone to give it to him. According to the scriptures in Col Yahshua is the first man to be made in total righteousness without sin and many will become like him in total righteousness but will overcome sin As said in Genesis the desire to sin is with you but you must over come it. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible Father, the firstborn of all that Yahweh is creating. 16 Because before Him all things were created that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or rulerships, or principalities, or powers; all things were created on account of Him, and for Him. 17 And He is over all things, and all things have been placed together under Him. 18 For He is the Head of the body, the called out ones, Who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the pre-eminence.
@jesusislord9018
@jesusislord9018 7 жыл бұрын
there is only 1 God.he is coming back again.his word the bible says.when he (jesus christ)splits the eastern sky.that every eye shall see him even those in the grave who pierced him.every eye shall see,every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess the jesus is Lord.the Lord thy God.Amen
@V-tec28
@V-tec28 4 жыл бұрын
What did Jesus said about those who call him lord?
@patrickk.6449
@patrickk.6449 7 жыл бұрын
i wonder ...in what verse in the quran say that a muslim can teach the Holy Bible ? Does he know he can only learn from the people of the book ?
@ikgul9638
@ikgul9638 7 жыл бұрын
Did Jesus exist in the beginning with God? before Abraham was born, I am!" John 8:58 John 17:5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning John 8:24-25 This is the one I meant when I said, 'A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' John 1:30 He also says, "In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. Hebrews 1:10 Hebrews 1:2 John 1:10 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Matthew 23:37. the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. ( 1 Peter 1:11 ) .
@ChristianAuditore14
@ChristianAuditore14 7 жыл бұрын
In the beginning of what? This universe? Yes but he did not always exist Jesus is the Son the Trinity is paganism
@leyaheidi3871
@leyaheidi3871 7 жыл бұрын
Islam keep insulting the name of Jesus wait until he will chase them away in a day of judgement
@spoonphoon
@spoonphoon 7 жыл бұрын
what!!!!!!!!!!!! how we insulting a prophet of God just tell me ?
@teefx5681
@teefx5681 7 жыл бұрын
Leah Muso you don't even call him by he's real name.
@abdallahluckya5909
@abdallahluckya5909 7 жыл бұрын
Leah Muso The reverse is true Muslim lifted Jesus up , we honor him
@teefx5681
@teefx5681 7 жыл бұрын
He's name was not Jesus
@catloran3860
@catloran3860 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew 7:21-23New King James Version (NKJV) I Never Knew You 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ MUSLIMS AREN'T THE ONE GOING AROUND DOING THINGS IN THE NAME OF JESUS? NO NO NO BUT CHRISTIANS DO. JESUS in the day of judgement, he will give all the Christians the BIG MIDDLE FINGER. prepare yourself for hell leya Heidi.
@albertoRODRIGUEZ-rt6ot
@albertoRODRIGUEZ-rt6ot 7 жыл бұрын
First of all, Muhammad really offered no good evidence for his claim to be a prophet. And since he claimed to be the last and the greatest prophet, the standard of evidence ought to be high. Certainly it should not be lower than for the prophets of the Bible, or for Jesus. Yet Muhammad offers no evidence or proof for his claims. He fulfilled no prophecies of the Bible, although Muslim apologists have tried to argue otherwise. For example, they point out that Moses said that a prophet like him would arise at a later time, but fail to deal with the fact that Moses, speaking to the Jewish people, said that the prophet would be one of their own countrymen (Deut. 18:15-18). Muhammad also did no miracles comparable to anything we can find in the Bible: he healed no one, raised no one from the dead, and provided no supernatural deliverance for his people (like Moses’ parting of the Red Sea or the manna from heaven). All we really have are Muhammad’s apparent mystical or spiritual experiences, his belief that they came from God, and the words he recited as revelations from God (later compiled as the Qur’an after his death). Second, Muhammad’s teachings flatly contradicted the teachings of the Old and New Testaments. We are not talking here about changes in ritual obligations, a loftier moral ethic, or deeper insight into the nature and purposes of God (changes which Christians typically find in the New Testament as compared to the Old). Muhammad rejected what is without a doubt the central historical and theological point of the New Testament - the death and resurrection of Jesus. According to Muhammad, Jesus did not die at all (he was taken bodily into Paradise), and the idea of a blood atonement for sin by Jesus’ death was firmly rejected as insulting to Allah. Thus, we cannot accept Muhammad’s claim to be a prophet of God unless we are willing to reject the prophetic, revelatory character of the Bible. But again, this does not mean that we should view Muhammad as an evil schemer or a deliberate deceiver. Muhammad was almost certainly a very sincere, very pious man who made a monumental contribution to civilization by his impassioned preaching of the truth that there is one all-powerful, all-merciful God who created the world. He evidently learned this truth from Judaism (with perhaps some Christian influence), which itself was rooted in God’s authentic revelation in the Old Testament. So, ultimately the heart of Muhammad’s message originated from divine revelation, even though as Christians we are convinced that the words which Muhammad spoke were not themselves revelations from God.
@MohamedAhmed-cz8mo
@MohamedAhmed-cz8mo 7 жыл бұрын
Gunther pico Now you made a big mistake, when you referenced Deuteronomy 18:18. So you said Moses was speaking to the Jews. The verse says" I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto you..." this is clearly referring to Prophet Muhammad SAW. The verse said "their brethren" this is in the third person. If Moses was speaking to the Jews and he says "their brethren" that is clearly referring to the ishmalites because the brother of Isaac was Ismail. Now that we accept it was speaking bout a prophet from the lineage of Ismail, we have to look and examine who claimed to be a prophet from their lineage, only person was Prophet Muhammad. If it was speaking about a prophet from the line of Isaac then it would have said" From among your brethren" but the reference says"their brethren".You're welcome, don't attempt to give a reference without examining it critically. Refute this. Muhammad did make miracles, he split the moon, NASA has recently discovered that the moon had been split at one point. Also the greatest miracle of Muhammad was the Quran. The Quran has linguistic and Historical miracles. The Quran even tested you disbelievers. It said "Bring a chapter like it if you are truthful".
@patrickk.6449
@patrickk.6449 7 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ahmed sservi.nasa.gov/?question=evidence-moon-having-been-split-two from NLSI Staff Scientist
@albertoRODRIGUEZ-rt6ot
@albertoRODRIGUEZ-rt6ot 7 жыл бұрын
There is no evidence to date to prove the moon split, and none has ever been released by NASA or any other organisation Quran is man made book with lots of errors Muhammad Ahmed
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Gunther pico okay, let's just say for the sake of argument it is talking about jesus (it definitely isn't, the brother above made it clear). Then who was jesus referring to in John 16:12? 'I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when HE the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but what ever he hears; he will speak, and he will disclose to you what is to come' Now let's dissect this.. It can't be the holy spirit because the holy spirit is God according to you.. Why would God NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT TO SAY? that in itself proves it isn't the holy spirit. It's obviously referring to Mohammed pbuh who transformed a pagan nation into a monotheism nation that believes in ONE GOD, the one true God of Abraham, David, moses, jesus and the other great prophets of God... And before you 'well the verse referred to a spirit so it can't be Mohammed' .. John 4:1 can answer that for you. 'beloved, do no believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out Into the world'. This verse shows prophets can be referred to as spirits.. And no Mohammed pbuh is not a false prophet and John 16:12 cannot be applied to anything or anyonr else. We Muslims don't worship the creation, we worship the creator. Peace
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Gunther pico also buddy, deutoromany 18 was referring to the brethren of the Jews, even Jewish scholars admit that their brethren is the Arabs... Coincidence?? I think not! It cannot be applied to anyone else except muhammad pbuh, since moses was more like Muhammad than jesus peace and blessing be upon them all. Both moses and Muhammad grew up with no parents, both migrated to another city, they both went up against powerful leader and they both won and conquered. They both also taught PURE MONOTHEISM (jesus pbuh also taught this until the church fathers and Paul destroyed his message) not your three in one, one in three illogical belief... And they also taught to do good deeds. Also where you proof that moses split the sea? You can believe that but not muhammad splitting the moon? Lol there's so much double standards. Muhammad pbuh did hundreds even thousands of miracles recorded in the hadiths. Also, isiah raised people from the dead is he God? Jesus did these miracles with the permission of God, meaning God gave him the ability to do so (act 2 22 clearly shows this)... Your own damn book disproves your idiotic and ignorant claims. If these comments don't open your eyes Idk what will lol.
@madedigital
@madedigital 7 жыл бұрын
sound bites from muslims.
@ibnkafir950
@ibnkafir950 7 жыл бұрын
I am going to use the same logic that Muslims use against Christians. Here are the premises leading to the conclusion: 1. Infinite being or person cannot be finite. This is Muslim belief. 2. The corollary to this is that a finite being cannot be infinite in knowledge 3. Allah lied in Sura 8:43 and 7:147 4. Satan and other evil spirits lie 5. A finite being cannot discern between Allah and Satan unless the finite being possesses infinite knowledge 6. Allah demands belief which requires a finite being to posses infinite knowledge 7. Therefore, Islam is illogical even if the logic of Muslims is used.
@icebeam23860
@icebeam23860 7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how people can come to accept/believe a 'so-called' prophet (Muhammad) who did not fulfill anything in the Bible. Amos 3:7 - God reveals plans to the prophets first, one way or another. Where is a prophecy for the use of the Quran and what are some prophecies in the scriptures that Muhammad fulfilled. Deut. 18:20 - He speaks in a different name or title of God than from the Bible and does nothing that was taught for the core of Salvation. Why take him seriously?
@icebeam23860
@icebeam23860 7 жыл бұрын
I've said nothing that remotely comes close to hating the Muslim community. My mom and older brother are both Muslim and so is my dad. We don't see eye to eye on what is truth, but there is no hatred between us. And I have no hatred for Muslims.
@icebeam23860
@icebeam23860 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with your first statement. Luckily I don't fall under that category. This match is far from being set, that's for sure haha. You used John 20:17. Why did you skip what came before it? Why skip John 20:1-9? I'll go directly to verse 7 to save space: John 20:7-9 7 as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. 9 (They still did not understand from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.) Jesus had to rise from what? No nit-picking verses please. Feel free to try again though.
@icebeam23860
@icebeam23860 7 жыл бұрын
+Redeyemarksman Thanks for your response. Don't celebrate too early my friend, less the carpet be swept from under your feet. ;) I'm assuming these supplied verses and explanations are supposed to disprove the Trinity. Unfortunately for you and other Christians as well. You both share one thing in common (among others of course). Your understanding of the Trinity is incorrect. When you have correct understanding, then all of the verses used will have been neutralized. Trinity means that three come from one. Not meaning three entirely separate persons form to be one God, but one God who plays the roll of all three. Think of it like this: Water in essence is H2O (not sure how to type the little number two). In it's base form, its name and role difference on purpose. For example. 1. Solid = Ice (When the temp drops to freezing.) 2. Liquid = Water (When in non extreme temperatures.) 3. Gas = Vapor (When the temp is above boiling.) Three different names. Three different roles. But in it's essence, it is still simply H2O. (continuing)
@icebeam23860
@icebeam23860 7 жыл бұрын
+Redeyemarksman (continued) Let's apply it to Trinity: 1. Father: Plays the role of the creator and the Almighty God 2. Son: Fulfills prophecy and shows the example of how the diciples should behave towards God 3. Holy Spirit: Restores what was lost during the Dark Ages/Papacy Each name used for Father, Son and Holy Spirit, which I'm sure you're aware of have different core purposes and apperances, but in essence, like H2O, are still one in the same God. In fact, you can demonstrate the Trinity yourself... rather easily with technology that we have today. (Feel free to ask me how.) Now, this is the correct understanding of the Trinity. So you can ask why does one know the day/hour and the other doesn't. Why does He say that I myself can't do anything, but only by the Father. Why does he pray to the Father, if He isn't God? Etc etc etc. Does God need to pray to himself or say he's lower than the others? Of course not. It wouldn't make sense from your understanding of the Trinity.
@icebeam23860
@icebeam23860 7 жыл бұрын
But when you understand it properly as typed above, you'll come to know that Christ didn't say/do these things for nothing. He was the type to lead by example. Showing the disciples how to live correct in God's eyes. Of course Christ knows the date/time. He is the same God from the Old Testament, just in the shell of a human being, but if He told the date/time, being well off in the future, do you think the disciples would have a high morale to do the Gospel work as they did back then? Argh, there's so many avenues to go about explaining. Now if you want verses to support the Trinity, then I'll supply some. Christ did those things to set the example for the disciples, nothing more. (Sorry for the long wall of text).
@kamakogonpanjiro4642
@kamakogonpanjiro4642 4 жыл бұрын
False verse If jesus(A.S) was before abraham(A.S) why abraham didn't worshipped two Gods(Father and Son) i.e Almighty God and jesus, why Moses didn't worshipped two Gods, The first of ten commandments is worship one and only God... You christians believe ten commandments was given to moses by God almighty, then why God didnt say to worship three gods(father,son,holy spirit) ..the people before you jews,abraham's followers,noah's followers,adam's childrens worshipped one and only God.. People after you(muslims) worshipped one and only God Even jesus and his apostles worshipped one and only God.. Then Why you guys say such a lie about jesus Hadith If Allah(only almighty) has a son,i was the first one to worship him -prophet Muhammad So Allah (almighty) dont have any partners,any sons
@blackeagle.nlAirsoft
@blackeagle.nlAirsoft 7 жыл бұрын
It seems like most of the Christians haven't reed the bible but seen the netflix movie of the bible.
@icebeam23860
@icebeam23860 7 жыл бұрын
I could say the same about most of these Muslim debaters that do not know how to read the Bible properly.
@christopherwells3426
@christopherwells3426 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the story of Jesus? In heaven in the beginning? We have the story of Adam. In the beginning in heaven. Adam was created from a handful of dirt picked from all of earth. Then mixed with water. Then shaped and molded like clay. Into the shape of a full grown man. Then The Creator/ Allah breathed the soul into him. We are all created on the image of Adam. So Adam had no mother or father. Why is he not considered the son of God to you??? Why don't you consider him to be equal to God? Why don't you consider Adam to be God in the flesh??? Why not because there is only ONE CREATOR ALLAH NOT!JESUS DUH!
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 4 жыл бұрын
God is 3 in 1 Hamza Nuur But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accurse. Galatians 1:8
@zzzproductions117
@zzzproductions117 4 жыл бұрын
Show me scripture that Jesus said “he was just a prophet do not worship me”
@kurokody9057
@kurokody9057 4 жыл бұрын
Relax dude hahahahaha
@divontaysantanacroydon3364
@divontaysantanacroydon3364 7 жыл бұрын
Who is Muhammed? Prove me he existed? I'm waiting... Y'all made yourself a figure and ran with it, the writers of Quran ain't Even by Muhammed, who is Muhammed? Every prophet was unique even by name, how many muhammeds are there today? 😂😂😂 my whole maths class was full. Of muhammeds.... ✌🏽️ muuuuv
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Mikaeel Bin Harith Bro this guy is delusional he believes in dying and rising Gods, that went to the toilet and cried and prayed to his God (God has a God? Lmao okay) to be saved from the cross but the other God denied his prayer and let him suffer and die. The old testament states that God will always answer the messiahs prayer, are you trying to imply he was a false prophet?? Astagfirullah! Jesus is one our most important messengers in Islam and u insult him constantly by worshiping him. Don't bother with him, I saw him on another thread he just believes in the typical rubbish propaganda about how we are 'moon worshipers' and 'devil worshipers' lol he's truly misguided. Even the Jews and respected rabbis reject you and say your religion isn't monotheistic and agree that Islam on the other hand is monotheistic.
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Divontay Vonty wait so you're not even gonna respond to the points I made then throw crazy claims about our beloved prophet? Ask yourself why God asked God to save him? And how God refused to save God? Ask yourself how God went to the toilet? Ask yourself how God has a God? Ask yourself how God is dependent upon someone dying for us to accept our repentance? God being dependent? Doesn't sound like God to me.. LOL. How does that even make sense? Lol wow. Btw your language is so foul, shouldn't the holy spirit prohibit you from talking in such a disgusting way?? the fact that you deny muhammad pbuh even existed proves that you're not even worth my time or brother mikaeels time. Like he said the only thing we can do is pray for you to be guided to the truth. WE WORSHIP THE CREATOR (the father) NOT THE CREATION (jesus pbuh). Peace.
@divontaysantanacroydon3364
@divontaysantanacroydon3364 7 жыл бұрын
Dasa Rewsa BOOK OF REVELATION IS THE ONLY REVELATION OF TRUTH AND LAST DAYS I WILL NOt SPEAK NO MORE, YOU MY FRIEND ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE MY FRIEND, ACCORDNG TO OUR REVELATION OF THE LAST DAYS, I WILL SPEAK NO MORE
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Divontay Vonty terrible response. Basically you won't speak no more because deep down u know I'm right. Your pagan religion makes no sense. And now you're praying that I get struck by lightning?? Lmao what kind of person are you? Time and time again you're proving to us that the holy spirit is a false falacy and it's just subjective nonsense, but even if you weren't such a horrible person the holy spirit is still a made up subjective belief. I know Christians personally and they are not crazy like you lol. Peace.
@dasarewsa7074
@dasarewsa7074 7 жыл бұрын
Divontay Vonty lmao I have never ever met someone so stupid and ignorant on a KZfaq comment section. I'm not gonna bother. We'll see who's right and wrong when we die Mr man worshiper.
@spoonphoon
@spoonphoon 7 жыл бұрын
he is good masshallah wallhi
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