They are tons of fun. Ride safe.

Am about to follow suit...kinda scared if I'll adapt though.

Those on sports or street are just younger. I outgrew my Z750 at age 34 when I went to south of Spain and rented a 400cc Xmax and fell in love with scooters. Never looked back, got myself a 650 Burgman and now enjoy life rather than race on the streets

That smile he’s referring to is commonly called a Burgman smile, though I get the same effect on a Victory Vision as well as the burgmans.

Yep maxi scooters rock ! Can’t beat em really especially with todays speed cameras everywhere .

joe doakes zI just had an 80 year old gentleman ride out 380 mi. from Arizona to see Wes and me and we rode with him for awhile and he rode well! You're never too old to start the adventure!! Thanks for your support and thanks for watching 👍🏻

You absolutely can. Happy Trails

Great comparison Guys. Friends like you two are rare. I've been a fan of scooters for a long time. I was shopping for a 650 Burgman in 2013 and the salesman talked me into a 1200 XTZ Tenere. I enjoy riding it cross country, but my wife (66 yo) doesn't like getting on it. So she doesn't ride it with me as much as I want her to. She has ridden several of the Big Burgmans with me that belonged to my friends, and like them. She can get on by stepping through and slide back to the back seat much easier. And the long passenger foot boards are a big plus for her. But we are both getting a lot older and as both of us are Cancer Survivors, so she won't ride with me at all now. I'll be 70 this Summer and still want one. I ride as much as I can, but hate to ride alone! I want a scooter now mainly because I shattered both feet and fractured both legs in a 30' fall in 2019 and I have a very hard time mounting my Tenere now. Hard to stand on my toes and swing a leg over the saddle. Or stand on the peg and mount it Cowboy style. So I'm back in the market for a white 650 Burgman again. I have a shop full of Motorcycles but just want something that I can get on now and have I now have no need to scream the streets anymore. Haven't ridden my Ducati since I fell. FYI, I rode a 150 cc Lambretta all through High School in the late 60's. Took a lot of teasing, but they stopped after they tried to keep up with me. But that was back in the Honda Super 90 days! Enjoyed the video! So thanks, I guess, I want one worse than ever now. :)

Kawasaki Man Thanks for the kind words from Scotland! Ride safe👍🏻

2bsure I’m jealous! I hear Spain is beautiful. I bet there’s a lot of great riding out there. Thanks for your kind words, enjoy that new bike and ride safe😎

have one for sale, 2008, 60K Used it to commute and now I'm retired. Don't want to pay any more insurance on it.

@@bc65925 do you still have the bike for sale or have you already sold it?

subrec So glad you’re happy with the purchase! I really enjoy my 650. Thanks for the kind words and ride safe.

Harold Brown They are nice bikes. I’m a Honda Man too but love the Burgmans. Thanks for watching and ride safe😎👍🏻

They are great bikes. Ride safe👍🏻

What did belt cost you?

@@dan43213 i just replaced the bolt that can shatter. its on the bottom of the CVT you dont have to open the bike up at all.

@@ManCaveMayhem Thanks man you guys stay safe out there aswell.

Russel Allen Thanks for watching! That rack idea sounds 👍

Mc13oner well I hope you enjoy it! Please ride safe and have fun. Thanks for the kind words👍🏻

I’m always glad when I can help somebody. Thanks for watching👍🏻

Thanks my friend working on it.

John Galloway Thanks for your kind words and support! And yes the banter is true and honest🤣

I love it ! They are BFF's.

ManCave Mayhem keep the good work up three men in the cave excellent pictures you're sending this is scooter Steve I had those bikes before I owned about seven of the bergmans from the beginning I had that when it first came out in 2003 but I find out everyone like when they come out it does look a little different to Dash but the 2017 they changed it you said it one of your videos you like to look at the new ones though if you look at my 2017 you would see that at they change the dash you can check the water gauge and see at the same time and also your miles also I could tell you when your bike is overheating it has a gauge on there and a warning light I'm glad they fix that about this is scooter Steve you have a nice day a merry Christmas and a happy New Year keep the good work up

Andy Carvalho I’m glad I could be of help.👍🏻thanks for watching.

Thanks so much for your kind words and comments. We have a lot of fun on those scooters. I agree I’ve had Lots of bikes in the past But for comfort and fun factor you can’t beat the Bergman. Ride safe my friend and thanks again for watching👍🏻

Thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching.

GDUB That’s good to hear! They are great bikes. And if taken care of they will serve you well.

They see, but they don't care. Got to get to my nail salon appt or get to the mall. I drive transit bus it's a nightmare.

Brindle Chase they are great bikes and really haven’t changed much over the years. Thanks for Watching and ride safe😎

Dwight Hoover I’m glad you enjoy the videos I hope they help! Thanks for the support. Ride safe😎

Dwight hoover,do u have a 650 for sell??

Thanks for the kind words my friend and thanks for watching! Ride safe brother🇺🇸

Jose Gomez Keep your eyes peeled and you will find the deals. They are out there. Thanks so much for watching😎

I’m very happy with all the upgrades makes the bike very pleasant ride

Very true.

I’m glad I could be of help. I too had an adventure bike and enjoyed it. The Burgman is very different. Kinda like riding a couch🤣

I owned 3 Dr 650 and 3 klr 650s after 2 spinal fusions I started riding scooters because of my spine the way you sit on a scooter even with the smaller tires is a lot easier on the back and all the other benefits they offer got me hooked now I'm on my 4 scooter and I smile a lot more and the fuel injection and not shifting all the time when riding back roads is the icing on the cake

Max Roelen I’ve used the rubber “O” rings and that works pretty good too! Thanks again for watching 😎

Good luck and ride safe🇺🇸

With a broken belt, it sounds like there’s more to the story. Did you get it fixed?

Jesus Mejia I had a 2007 Vespa 250 and loved it. Ride safe and have fun! Thanks for watching 👍🏻

I hate you.

Jesus Mejia You won’t regret it they are a blast😎👍🏻

Jesus Mejia did you get one? Enjoying it?

Thanks so much for your kind words! Thanks for watching.

Very fun and comfortable 👍🏻 Thanks for watching.

Hope it was helpful and enjoyable👍🏻 Thanks for the kind words!

I totally agree!

​@@ManCaveMayhemIs what is the last year that they made the 650 birdmans? Please comment back and let me know. If you know, they really need to come back with Them it's a shame I know it is they n. Everybody was having fun with them. So they stopped making them and threw junk out On the market, so people would buy junk. And they can make money by fixing them.

@@martinneps9387 I think it was 2017

SarafynaandtheNerd Sounds like your ride is decked out. Yes at first the grips took a little getting used to for me. They are a lot to grab it now that I’m used to them I love them👍

Yeah, it does have quite a few odds and ends bolted on. You can some of that on the channel. Most everything else is posted in the forums. May do a video on it sometime in the future.

SarafynaandtheNerd i

Very well said. I have to agree with you on the instrument cluster too!

opichocal Do you have a wonderful Thanksgiving thanks for all your support and thanks for watching! 👍🏻

Thanks for the info and thanks for watching! Ride safe!

Andy Sjostrom Sounds like you got a great deal on a good bike I really enjoy mine and it’s been very reliable. Enjoy your trips and ride safe thanks again for watching!👍🏻

What part of North Carolina?

Where did you get your 2011 Suzuki burgman 650 from because I'm looking for me one also any help would be appreciated thank you and God bless you

salsan88 sounds like you got an awesome deal on a great bike.ride safe😎

Daniel A sounds like you got a screaming deal. Ride safe and thanks for watching👍🏻

If you can find a nice model with low mileage, the later the year the better I think you will enjoy it. It’s a very smooth machine and it’s fun to ride. The ride is a bit rougher than a motorcycle due to the smaller tires and suspension but other than that very smooth bike.

@@ManCaveMayhem I believe I found a 2013 with about 4k on the clock with a lot of accessories that is open to a trade .

@@mattdrinkwine1936 sounds awesome. Keep me posted anxious to hear about it.👍🏻

Thanks so much for watching and your kind words 😎👍🏻

I love my 650 Burgman and have had good luck with it. The 400 Burgman is great too👍🏻

I’m not sure how they compare. I know Honda is a reliable machine. I just enjoy the comfort of the Bergman. Either way you decide I think you can’t go wrong.

Silverwing is nice i own a 2012 and love it.

Roger Smith Yes the cruise works great on long rides for an occasional break for the hand. I actually like the cup holder it works pretty good. Thanks for watching and you support 👍🏻😎

Michael Polkabla Not sure what the AN stands for I think that’s just the model number.

buttmanroad That would be awesome 😎

Hussein Adel That’s some super good info I did not know that. Well I’m glad that I bought a 2012 then. Thanks for your input and thanks for watching😎

Some of the stuff, including CVT was fixed from 2010

crosswind mits That’s a great question, although my bike only has 15,000 miles on it I have heard that the 2012 models and up have improved with the design on CVT belts. I can’t guarantee that you won’t have issues but so far both of ours have been good. Wes’ 2008 is still going strong he’s got close to 20,000 and mine is probably got about 17,000 and doing good. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching. ride safe😎

ManCave Mayhem thank you for the immediate response!!I will keep that in mind!!

MrPolymers Yes I’m sure that’s the case but my Ferrari days are over. I’ve had a few bikes in my day and I’m enjoying the station wagon. Thanks for watching 😎👍

Of course, it's a personal preference. I also have a Mustang Convertible as my wife won't ride on two wheels PERIOD. Scooter or not.. ;)

MrPolymers I’m jealous 😎👍

Actually, my wife's idea to purchase it. Since she's the banker of the family, I have to get her blessing on the large purchases. Plus, I just finished placing my third kid through college. Time to pay off those loans too. It never ends.. ;)

Thanks for watching my friend👍🏻🇺🇸

Frank Bowden Wow! Mine was just rubbing against the radiator. And blew the fuse.

og aligevel vil jeg hellere have burgmanden end en billig bil

Coverage Genius I found mine on Cycle trader. It took some time but I was able to get it.

@@ManCaveMayhem Thanks! I'll start my search there!

That is a RAM mounting system. They make many different styles. Check them out online. They make some cool stuff.

I’m not sure that was purchased prior to me buying the bike. The previous owner installed it. Ride safe my friend.

The 650s are like standard motorcycle they will cruise at 80 mph all day long. The 400 will cruise in the same range with a little more effort. Of course the 400 is a single Cylinder compared to the 650 which is a twin. Hope this helps and thanks for watching😎

@@ManCaveMayhem How are these scooters for comfort on long rides, as compared to the large full sized motorcycles? The reason I ask is because I am thinking about getting a Burgman. I have never owned a big street bike at all, but some of my friends and family own Harleys. They say that these scooters would (Beat me up) on a long trip. They are in to horsepower and loud pipes, But Im a heavy equipment operator/and Truck driver by trade, so I get all the loud pipes and horsepower I care to get at work, and I shift enough gears at work. I want something I can glide around on and enjoy the ride.

Bill Williams they are like riding a couch especially if you get a comfortable seat for them. The rear suspension on the Suzuki Bergman 650 isn’t the greatest but it’s definitely comfortable on long rides. No shifting is wonderful. Just twist and go! Hope this helps Bill.I would suggest going and test riding one before making the purchase.

@@ManCaveMayhem Sounds great, and that's what I was hoping to hear. Thanks.

@@aliceshaw8265 Thanks

david cox I’m not really sure on that I think they did some changes to the plastics but I think the motor is Similar if not the same. I think they changed the engine braking a little bit In regards to when the bike is shut off and slowing down when you let off the gas.

thanks a lot for the reply!!! the 2014 to 2017 burg exc are hard to find for sale with low miles... I found a used tmax 2015 with 500 miles on odometer... the problem is the tmax tall … I am 5'7 .. I might take a chance and see if I can manage to0 ride the 530 cc tmax.. Have you ridden the new tmax??

@@davidcox3228 No I haven't had the chance to ride it but i'm sure it would do the job and do it well.

Tommy Wheeler That’s a good question I don’t know you might want to check I’m sure there’s a way. You have to take the handlebar covers off to see how the triple tree clamp attaches to the handlebars it would probably take some serious modifications! You would have to get longer cables for the throttle

Sorry the man in the red shirt (my buddy Wes ) is in Utah But I will try to help you. We both love our Burgmans I would suggest buying a 2012 or later due to the fact that they made improvements on the drive belts. I can’t speak for the BMW except for the fact the parts are super pricey. I hope this helps👍🏻🇺🇸

Yes the seat is very comfortable it’s a Russell day long. Kind of pricey though. I’ve benefited from the previous owner purchasing it.

martin wise That’s a good bike. The Japanese scoots are great. Very reliable👍🏻

unfortunately I bought my Burgman with them already on it. The previous owner put them on so I’m not sure. Sorry, I do believe the throttle/ right hand has a larger inside diameter. Hope this helps.

@@ManCaveMayhem yes you were right the throttle side is larger than the left , But i ordered them both at for 7/8 , And they work great . Thanks !!

I don’t have a lot of experience with the silver wing. I know the Bergman‘s been a great scooter for me, but you can’t beat Honda‘s reliability that’s for sure.

@@ManCaveMayhem Thank you. Nice bike also to add ☺️

Brett Vogel Had plenty of motorcycles in my day so I don’t need to pose. Cupholder works great I use it all the time. Don’t need to compensate....

Check your fuses on the bike make sure they’re all good. you could have a blown fan fuse check to make sure the fan is spinning freely and functioning properly it is basically the equivalent of a check engine light fault code so it could be multiple things. I would also check my battery too!

Thanks my friend I’m still making videos not as much of the scooter since all this coronavirus stuff. Also Wes moved but there will be more scooter videos to come soon.

Danish Piper it’s a great bike and will cruise all day at 90 mph no problem. The suspension can be a little rough but a custom saddle helps that. Great to hear from you and thanks for watching 😎👍🏻

get a sports car if you want to cruise at 90 to 100mph all day it would be safer

corey foss They are a ton of fun! 👍🏻😎

Mountain Man sounds like a good deal. As long as it was well maintained it should be great 👍

They are wonderful scooters I would suggest going through everything and making sure all the fluids are good just to have a starting point👍🏻 good luck with your new ride. I hope you enjoy it as much as I’ve enjoyed mine.

Cheers for the price mate, am looking to get one over here as well! Did you buy it privately or used from a dealer?

@@sailor81 they’re a hoot to ride👍🏻 be safe my friend. Thanks for watching.🇺🇸

They are definitely a very technical bike. Longevity is definitely based on how well the previous people have taken care of the bike. They sure are a lot of fun. My son just took my 2011 on a 400 mile trip with zero problems. I think you’ll be fine with the Birdman 200. They’re good little bikes and not as technically involved as the 650s.

Well I guess that really depends on what you plan on using it for. If you’re doing super long trips I think the 650 would be more comfortable. But if you’re running around on short excursions the 400 is a great choice. No matter which one you choose they will both be good at all of that I’m just saying the bigger Scooter is smoother and more comfortable on long trips. But a lot of it also comes down to the way you feel on it and your comfort and Riding abilities. I hope this helps. thanks for watching👍🏻

Marti Neps they do have aftermarket exhaust, but are hard to find in American market you have to search in European market, Italy, UK, etc. Because the market for these bikes there is big

Juan Castillo yeah I just like to have a little bit of tone with the scooter so people could hear that something's coming up alongside of them or something there too quiet

Marti Neps my 2006 burgman 650 still have the stock one, and I love the sound it produces, I wouldn't change it

Marti Neps I believe so but not totally sure. I know for a fact you can use bolt on exhausts but those are universal and kinda Micky Mouse.

ManCave Mayhem how would I go about to find out about the exhaust

Marti Neps check the internet I’m sure there are some companies making them for 650s

They are for sure MAN 🛵 scooters👍🏻

Always 🤣

Sounds like a great deal👍🏻 Ride safe🇺🇸

I don’t believe they made 2019s I only see 17s and 18s.

@@ManCaveMayhem OK I see an advertised on KZfaq but none of the dealers Them at all

I wish I could find one in good shape for sale

The price on the scooters vary depending on condition and age.

unfortunately the prices on used cars and motorcycles scooters has risen sharply since the pandemic

That is so true! I don’t think you’ll ever go through brakes on those things and less somebody of course cuts you off, which happens frequently in California. Ride safe and keep the rubber on the road!👍🏻🇺🇸

corey foss They are a blast.

Where did you find yours at because I'm looking for myself one