Must See Toro Zero Turn No Start This video will show my diagnosis for a No start issue on a Toro zero turn riding mower. Too easy electrical diagnosis using a volt meter.
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@RaleysSmallEngines Жыл бұрын
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@threeblackburn3 жыл бұрын
Awesome informative video. Started watching this video to narrow down my problem areas, but ended up getting a life lesson in diligence and patience. I’m going to just start where you started and see if I can’t get her cutting some grass again. Thank you for this, only video I found on here that slowed down the process and explained things. Keep em coming sir.
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it and I hope it helps. Thank you for watching my friend.
@Lovinflyindrones20222 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Mate. Working (mucking ) through all the bits and bobs as Sir Mick would say. Very proper mate 👌👏👍🙌🤣😂👌👏👍
@lp-pf5el2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video sir. I needed this
@fillslawncare3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Raley!
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@utvolsrit2 жыл бұрын
purchased my Toro Zero in 2016 and used it 6 times. Won't start - replaced 3 batteries, 3 solenoids, and a starter. Small Engine repair folks give up - I guess I have their kryptonite. I need someone like you near me who has the knowledge and will take the time to troubleshoot and diagnose. Great video Raley.
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, hope you can find someone who can help you out.
@jackfrosty46742 жыл бұрын
Check the safety switches each side of the handles. Sometimes the handles can get grass and not be able to go all the way out. Also sometimes the big screw with spring on some zero turns once again connected to handles needs to be tightened and the then release just a bit. Then there is a screw somehow in the safety switch connected to each side of handles that is really small and needs to be tightened. Worked for many. Seems to be on the zero turn mowers. See other sites for more.
@jdavis66302 жыл бұрын
Same. Same year. Constant problems
@pastorldljr Жыл бұрын
@@jdavis6630 You have fuses under the case where your PTO clutch is, #25 and #30. Change the fuse #25. That might be your problem.
@markhall34343 жыл бұрын
I have a Toro SW4200 (On steep slide slopes the Steering Wheel is Awesome) and have rewired mine due to numerous electrical issues. Starter Solenoid replaced 3 times, brake controller once, starter wiring, PTO switch. The starter has been removed several times (PITA). The starter seems to have a dead spot where it won't move occasionally. Loosed the starter, used a pry bar to move it slightly, hit with a hammer. Voila she's back (until the next time it hits the dead spot). So, I left the starter a little loose so I can pry it a bit if it jams again. As machined, the starter alignment with the flywheel may be off when fully tightened down. Stuck starter is probably why so many starter solenoids were burned open. Electrically it's Trash. However, as Modified, I LOVE this mower! Big Tires, HD spindles, Hydrostatic is Very Strong (Can climb steep hills pulling big stump grinder. With crossblades, heavily modified/strengthened/rewelded deck (Big Air Flow improvement), and a home grown rear bagger, it can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch! Sounds like an Airplane at full pitch. I use it to clear sticks/leaves/branches that would usually require raking. Love IT, but the TORO engineering department needs some help,
@markhall34343 жыл бұрын
A replacement starter is apparently Toro Only at $200+.. Who makes this engine (Not Toro)? Was thinking it's a Kohler but can't confirm any parts interchangeability. .
@markhall34343 жыл бұрын
With Cross blades, the PTO clutch and belt will be next.. helluva "Squeel" when engaging the PTO due to the much increased blade inertia mass.. Spares ready to install. Starter still sticks about every 40 or so starts, but can usually unstick w/o removing the starter. Fairly stable now.
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Yes they are good strong mowers. Yes, to get the correct starter it should be a Toro. Aftermarket starters will not last. You should be able to get the correct part number on PartsTree.com, as they have good diagrams. Then check other sites for the best price on an OEM starter.
@robertfite35804 ай бұрын
Your the best
@fredharris44103 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this channel. I have a brand new 2020 Toro 50 inch Timecutter. Got it in June of 2020 from my dealer. It only has about 7 hours on it and now it won't start. So I'm wondering just what could be wrong with it. It was working just fine when I parked it in my garage last October. I made sure to leave very little gas in it so I could start it from time to time all winter long. You think maybe the gas has gone bad??
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Very possible. Take the air cleaner off and give it a shot of brake cleaner, carb cleaner or pour a tiny bit of gas into the carburetor and try to start it. If it starts and quits it's a fuel or possibility carburetor issue from bad gas.
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Oh, and thank you for watching!!
@Nat-jc6zq9 ай бұрын
My timecutter 7000 series does not engage, no start, no clicking nothing. The battery is good, changed the solenoid. Not sure if it is the brake control module.
@texasscratchking4568 Жыл бұрын
If the seat is off from being rotted out will that stop it from cranking up..all I'm getting is a low click..there's voltage at solenoid battery and starter of 12.3V..thanks
@williamlaw61092 ай бұрын
I must have missed it. So what was causing the backfiring?
@rayburnett30669 ай бұрын
Did you check the coils?
@envaleorex73613 жыл бұрын
thanks for your site and comments. I have a toro 452 cc on a small zero turn. The starter engages but keeps clicking like its slipping - after a while the engines turns and starts. So - need a new starter? Obviously the solenoid is working and the starter motor is turning - justs slips and clicks before starting. Thanks
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Hard to say without hearing it, but very possible starter. You may try spraying some lubricant on the starter at the gear and spring. If you do replace the starter I recommend OEM. If u do go with a cheap one be sure to read the ratings and comments. Thank you for watching our channel!!
@envaleorex73613 жыл бұрын
@@RaleysSmallEngines thanks for the help.
@markhall34343 жыл бұрын
Clicking is often a loose connection or marginal battery. Could be starter solenoid which is pretty weak. The Clicking is likely the solenoid engages, the starter draws current, causing the voltage to drop and the solenoid disengages. Back and forth oscillating at 2 or 3 hertz. Check your cables, grounds, solenoid, and Battery voltage while engaging the starter. 13V open, 7V starter engaged. Good luck, shouldn't cost much!!
@LYVEWYRE120002 жыл бұрын
Nice video👍 Could you tell me the ohm value of the new solenoid?
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. There should be no resistance, simply put it is just a switch. It is either on or off. Hope that helps
@LYVEWYRE120002 жыл бұрын
@@RaleysSmallEngines Yes that helps greatly! Thank you!
@davidmikronis4948 Жыл бұрын
Hey, all the crud across the top of the battery will slowly discharge the battery. Js
@TheRustyRooster3 жыл бұрын
Oh now that was a good one.
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@raulaleman75433 жыл бұрын
I have a toro timecutter with 100+hours. During the 100 hr service I noticed a couple of holes on the engine casting adjacent to the muffler flange. I had not noticed before that exhaust is coming from these holes. This make me think that I may have a head gasket leak. Any feedback on this issue is appreciated.
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Can you email me a picture? If can see it I may be able to help. My email is Raleytrans@gmail.com
@raulaleman75432 жыл бұрын
Did you get the picture? What do you think?
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, just saw the picture. Yes, head gasket is very possible. To be sure you can disconnect the spark plug wire (for safety). Get a squirt bottle with soapy water and spray down the area. Turn the engine over using your hand on the flywheel and look for bubbles. Hope this helps
@jresendez815 Жыл бұрын
I have a newer toro timecutter with the myride suspension sometimes won't turn on only if handles are moved back and fourth In and outwards?
@RaleysSmallEngines Жыл бұрын
I would first check those safety switches for the handles
@DanielRuiz-RogueChef212 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me where your ground is connected to? My ground is loose from the toro itself, opposite to what you had. Any help is appreciated.
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
This was not my machine it belongs to a customer. All that matters on any machine is that battery grounds to frame and engine is grounded to frame or battery
@DanielRuiz-RogueChef212 жыл бұрын
@@RaleysSmallEngines good deal. Ill give it a try! Thank you!
@ShirleyChilders-nt4xp Жыл бұрын
Had starter replaced. Selinoid also
@JoseRodriguez-go5dy2 жыл бұрын
Good job my friend keep it up 👍👍👍.
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@strydyrhellzrydyr13452 жыл бұрын
Wish I could get your help.. my dad ain't gonna take it to a shop.. But I'm having very similar issues... But it seems like it's something to do with the safety switch.. changed selonoid.. but it still won't start. Something with the arms. U can't get off of it and keep it running.. but.. the seat switch is good. Checked that... Um thinking it might be some sort of safety switch on the pto... Or connection... I'm just so frustrated with it... Or my dad is.. to the point that he won't even let me get time to work on it
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
You will need to test the switches with a volt meter
@jackfrosty46742 жыл бұрын
check other sites, they talk all about how to check them. Mine started right up after cleaned the dirt between the handles and the outer area. Was not allowing handles to fully engage somehow.
@omeemo7003 Жыл бұрын
Great video should the plastic wing nut be taken off the negative terminal
@catfish24 Жыл бұрын
Yes and put a metal one on.
@omeemo7003 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 💯👍👍👍
@agrexias3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the Toro Timecutter mowers? How do the transmissions and engines hold up?
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. They are pretty good machines, I have customers using them for residential and a couple using the higher end ones for commercial use. Haven't seen any problems with the hydro systems. Like most care and maintenance goes a long way.
@agrexias3 жыл бұрын
@@RaleysSmallEngines Thanks for responding. Do you know if the toro timecutter performs well on hills? Is the wider tire better for hills. I think there is 2" extra tire width on the 50" toro timecutter compared to the 42"
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
@@agrexias I'm sure it would be, but not many hills to try that on near my shop. I don't recall any customers saying anything about a problem on hills.
@wcjcnc2 жыл бұрын
Stay away from Toros with the electric transmission lock module.
@dandylawnandmaintenance44073 жыл бұрын
So I have one of these its a year old. Dam thing backfires when you first try to start it cold I mean bad. Its so loud when it does it I am ducking just waiting for parts to come flying out. It only does it when cold. It also backfires when you shut it off. The thing is still under warranty so I called and they will look at it but I am afraid to take it to them because this problem is random. It does not do it all the time. I have not dug into this motor yet. I am thinking its carb related. Do you know do these have fuel cut out solenoids on the carbs? I am also understanding they may have a compression release on the cam? I dont know enough about these new motors from Toro. I just know I am a little pissed cause I sold a perfectly good running one to buy a new one. The other had some miles on it. I just happened to find your video knowing I need to tackle this problem during the off season.
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Sorry just saw your comment. There may be an issue with the solenoid on the bottom of the carburetor. I would also check the valve clearance. With the spark plugs removed turn the engine over by hand and look at the valves. You are looking for them to bump open just a little. I have a valve adjustment job next week and I will do a video on it so you can see how to check the compression release
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
Dang i just typed a long response don't know what happened to it. I will be hopefully be doing a video first of the week on checking compression release
@dandylawnandmaintenance44073 жыл бұрын
@@RaleysSmallEngines Got it thanks.
@nyccrcsx3 жыл бұрын
I have a toro titan with 381 hours on engine only 2 yrs old mine is starting to backfire with a cold start aswell and sometimes when I turn it off want to know if you got yours fixed and what the problem was mine is still under warranty thanks
@dandylawnandmaintenance44073 жыл бұрын
@@nyccrcsx No I have not worked on it yet but probably in the next couple weeks. Its going to drive me nuts having a newer mower with these problems. I will say I have heard good things about these new Toro engines made in China. The manufacture of these engines is Loncin which have been doing it for years. We cant be the only ones with this issue but I am not seeing articles yet from people. I will let you know if I find something.
@alabamafishing10132 жыл бұрын
Are you able to tell me what that black box behind the solenoid is called?
@johngriffith6369 ай бұрын
It's the parking brake control module
@jslawncare56272 жыл бұрын
Do you know if a Kohler starter will work on the new toro engines
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, not sure. We use OEM starter replacements for our customers. Thanks for commenting my friend.
@jslawncare56272 жыл бұрын
@@RaleysSmallEngines I'm trying to find out if one will work for them
@strydyrhellzrydyr13452 жыл бұрын
Wait.. I wanna know more.. did cleaning the carb help.. ???
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@fabionaps2 жыл бұрын
How do you know how many hours it has been used?
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Some of these machines are equipped with an hour meter
@erikbatistuta21852 жыл бұрын
I bought mines last year in 2021 april And I was using maybe 12-15 times And this year on april was hard to start I put it new battery and one week later same shit With new battery…
@AUDOYD522 жыл бұрын
My 2020 Toro Titan MyRide ran out of gas for the first time and now wont start.
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Remove air cleaner and spray carburetor cleaner or brake cleaner in carburetor. If it starts, remove fuel line and see if it is pumping fuel when you crank it over. Let me know what happens.
@strydyrhellzrydyr13452 жыл бұрын
So if u have continuity . Means it's bad . Is that what that ment
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Yes, on the big terminals with nothing hooked up
@carlthornton30762 жыл бұрын
Very Good!... 78🐄🦉🏴☠✝
@JoseGarcia-rk5lk2 жыл бұрын
Am having the same problem and the tractor is 4 nts old
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Hope the video helps you. Thanks for watching
@davidsmith6577 Жыл бұрын
Did you forget at 6:00 closing time that you were showing us about “it won’t start “ , diagnosing solenoid etc? You came back Tuesday and was worried about back firing. What the hell? You started chasing rabbits. My mower won’t click, start nothing. It shows 13 volts on battery and at solenoid. I thought we we getting somewhere talking ohm meter. Then came closing time….nothing
@RaleysSmallEngines Жыл бұрын
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@michaelhannify47012 жыл бұрын
Is this Ron White?
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... Lol thanks for watching my friend
@jonathanfloyd7082 жыл бұрын
Wat of the whole ignition switch is gone
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
If it is missing you have two choices. Look up the correct one by the model number or trace wiring to either find correct switch or wire machine to another switch
@joebrock9784 Жыл бұрын
I want to pull the carburetor off first of all for it that plugs in it or did anything else because the gas is crap and people never clean those things
@jackfrosty46742 жыл бұрын
Someone did not take good care of that mower. Only a year old?
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you wouldn't believe . It's been here a couple times since then and they have dang near destroyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting my friend
@j.johnson65483 жыл бұрын
That engine doesn't sound as good as kawasaki version
@RaleysSmallEngines3 жыл бұрын
You are correct my friend. Kawasaki is probably my favorite, great engines, most of our commercial customers use them. Thank you for watching.
@jamesh9632 Жыл бұрын
This is titled ALTERNATOR replacement, but not in video! Waste of time!!!!
@RaleysSmallEngines Жыл бұрын
Ummm just looked and I don't see anything about alternator in title or description
@rayburnett30668 ай бұрын
If it me, Is replace bothcoils
@Lovinflyindrones20222 жыл бұрын
Brilliant/Professional mower repair KZfaq bound video. 😊😃😺😄☺😹 t h a n k s. T B o n e
@RaleysSmallEngines2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother!!! Share it for us if ya want 😉
@Lovinflyindrones20222 жыл бұрын
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