In the video you seem to sympathize with the mother. Why? How do you know the mother isn't at fault? How do you know the kid is on drugs, or doing foolish things? The mom didn't know how could you? Kids dont go from straight As to leaving the house in a year because "they lost their mind", something is wrong and the parents have fault. the kid may and probably is also at fault, but parents never tell a story that makes themselves look bad. P.S. the Parents dont have the right to choose his faith. If he chooses to be atheist, and that's what caused issues, I think the kid di the right thing by leaving a toxic home. Being that your religious, it would be interesting to know your take, can you accept AND respect your kid or any person enough to let them believe in what they want. (If you change anything including inheritance or level speaking to someone the answer is NO)

U totally ok boomerd this one

This was only partially financial advice. The rest was misinformed social counseling about a situation Dave had very little understanding of.

Dave sometimes you miss the boat entirely. You think other families taking people in is a bad thing. Some families are very dysfunctional and for some reason you overlook that. I can't take you seriously sometimes.

I saw myself in the kid's story. I left my parents at a young age and my reasons, simply put, were death by a thousand cuts. I couldn't bare them any more, all they ever cared was my grades and they were never there to connect emotionally. Long story short, I left never to look at them again after a heated verbal exchange. I got my self through school and college by working three jobs. I have nice career that pays 120k and I am doing better than I deserve. The best decision I ever made was to never see them again. Some people don't deserve to have children, because they believe providing food and shelter is enough. The mother needs to look deep into her soul and figure out where she went wrong, her demeanor was very reminiscent - "it's all about her" ...She just made her son an addict in the public's eye based on suspicion...It is reflective of the kind of mother this poor kid had to endure.

the parents are probably forcing a religion and college and other wastes of money on him

EXACTLY ✅

@@jacobs5518yeah a bit like Dave, I like his financial philosophy but I know he’s said his kids won’t be in his will if they stop being Christian which is a bit nuts to me

@@Drenwickification yeah its nuts, religion is nothing but a tool to control the masses

That he is an addict? That would be interesting

So true!

Exactly. My stomach is churning listening to this which tells me my gut says there something wrong here and there is way more to it than that. I would love to hear the son's side of the story.

@@annalammers9978its very possible she’s not telling the full story but there’s also a good chance that other set of parents helped drive a wedge by telling the kid he’s the victim and his parents are the problem and that’s sadly very appealing to young people that are having depression, and depression is very common among teenagers. It happened with my daughter when she was in high school and those other parents caused a lot of added problems in our household. She’s 22 now and embarrassed about the way she acted and I don’t blame her. We should have done a better job of showing how much we loved her while not giving in to her tantrum, but I do also blame other adults that know nothing about raising children for making her feel justified in her behavior and just assuming it’s the parents fault.

@@jeffr9854 That's a fair point. Thanks for showing me another perspective.

Worse for a mother now...mothers are the reason kids are growing up, finding themselves narcissistic as a coping mechanism from trauma and mental fog they dealth with... Worse for a mother to be an enabling of the narcissistic father

What type of reasons?

I know a person who left the house at 17. He is much older now. Suffering from bipolar disorder, maybe other mental illnesses as well. How can you be so certain the parents are delusional or liar?

@Sonja Ilic they’re probably Mormon you know all of them live in Idaho and Utah

@@sonjailic5770you made a lot of assumptions. However, I hate to break it to you but parents can and should control their kids’ sex lives while under their roof. You sound like a massive groomed. Sad and scary.

Exactly

Lol 💯

Facts.

takforce06 THATS a Christian family.

@@Mkx56 That's not a real christian family

Obviously lol

Nah she said she suspects so but isn’t sure

@@billbergen9169 real Christians don't force there children to live with them. At the age of 18.

t206kid He ran away in May 2019. He moved out in June 2019. He doesn’t turn 19 till July 2020. That means he ran away and then moved out at 17 when he was still a minor they were legally responsible for.

Parents probably treating poor child like $hit

Yo Bo that sometimes the case

it sounds like he burned out and doesn't know what to do with his life right now. I'm sure he will figure it out after some time.

His grades started tanking. He's probably on alcohol or drugs.

Toxic abusive parents, he wants mental peace

Dave grew up in an era of the "parents are always right and can't be questioned." Dave is a bit toxic himself, saying he would cut off his kids of their inheritance if they weren't Christian. I'm guessing he also only has one or two flavors of protestant in mind.

@@abacab87 100% Dave has a very strict view of what is correct and is controlling as fuck. Even his company has rules that you can get fired if you get pregnant outside of marriage

I have a friend who got his girlfriend pregnant and he teaches at a catholic High School, and even that didn't get him fired, and he didn't have a shotgun wedding, although he did eventually marry her.@@funfact7188

They're addressing one piece. They have 2 minutes. Geez...

My thoughts exactly!!!!! I do understand I had to get a replacement SSN card and only have a copy of my birth certificate😞

OR - he's picking-up his own possessions without contacting his parents.

@@opsgreg8392 and?

@@opsgreg8392 if your point is you don’t like me, I guess you win. I don’t have a problem with that. Go right ahead.

@@opsgreg8392 I’m this many 🖕

Yup. She's not giving the whole story.

She gives off some narcissist flags to me. She calls in to a financial show for emotional advice because she respects him. She calls to make a show of what a victim she is without hard, concrete evidence besides a summary of the general situation.

INK I’m not worried about the “evidence” because the son needs to have some privacy. But I agree that there is more to this story. Dropped grades around a year or two after they did Ramsey’s thing? Maybe it’s connected, chances are it’s not.

Absolutely it is!!

Aell obviously there's more to the story.

Fr

My mother did the same thing. Her friends coddled her and everything

He very likely was doing drugs though. It's a good assumption. It's shocking how often drugs are to blame for erratic behaviour like this.

The grades tanking is a HUGE red flag.

He probably is, and I believe you know it Anderson.

Well he's the king boomer, always sides with the narcissist boomers

Right, and then “These are the kind of twerps who take people in.” And he calls himself a Christian. These people opened their arms and their home to a young man in dire need need.

@markroberts8975 what does Christianity have to do with this? Christians are not perfect in fact being Christian just means that you have certain beliefs and that's all but I can understand why you say that because even people who claim they are Christian do really stupid things and of course that gets bunched up with everyone else

​@@Jamezar ahhhh. 25 year old wisdom?

Yea a big red flag is their seeming assumption they have NOTHING to do with it.

@She Wolf some parents are too overbearing and controlling..just saying

it's a power trip, once narcissistic parents see that their kids don't need them they become nicer in order to get their kid back

I completely agree with you on this.

That the first go to was to disown the son tells the heart of the story. I wish the son well, and hope he has the strength to carry on. Let the dead bury the dead.

😂😂😂😂

Im dead 😂

😂😂😂

Beans and rice, rice and beans

@@LL-xx4iq are you African?

She sounds insufferable! 🙉

I think so too. There seems to be far too much control from the parents' side of the equation (re-writing the will so quickly, that is definitely a control move).

Lydia Smith exactly. Gimme a break

Lydia Smith it’s possible the house was locked up and not having a key because he moved out, he would have to break in.

He moved out. His choice and doesn't want any relationship with his parents. It's not his house any more. He broke in.

Lydia Smith Exactly.

Hmm. Called the cops on him.

@Jordan Selby Good for you🙏🏾❤🙏🏾👍🏾👍🏾

Thats great man but, it's not that easy for every single young 16-20 year old or even some 25 year olds in the world you do realize right?

Everyone I know who left their family early turned out better than those who stuck around late.

How you leave at 16 without being homeless.

@@DoctorRickSanchez it's not easy for anyone to move out without financial support. But for some people it's necessary. I moved out when I was 18 too because my household was very abusive and manipulative and I had to get away from and figure out who I was. To imply that his/her moving out was easy is kind of an insult.

Ehh they do think about it if they know its happening, but smart enough to know peace of mind is worth way more

Exactly. Narcissistic family systems are designed to invalidate and discredit the most vulnerable members. You're scapegoated to the ends of the earth. Used as a convenient place for the family to offload their sickness and shame. You either accept that and sacrifice yourself, the truth of your experiences and feelings as a separate person, or you get away and detoxify yourself of their sickness. Narcissistic parents/systems NEVER take responsibility. Their illness simply can not and will not allow them to.

The only friends I’ve had that did this had parents that were out of control. No son or daughter would pass out free rent unless the house is stressful to his health

I would have agreed a couple years ago, but I experienced this kind of drama with my son when he turned 17. After having a conversation with the parents' home he went to, i found out he lied to the other family about our family. That other family simply didn't have any rules and he wanted to be a part of it.

L. S. That’s cause you failed as a parent in his environment or surroundings. Bad influences will circle in his life when your not there so you need to make sure he goes to a safe school and see who he’s with

@@tommycastro9424 I can't agree with you on that. God gives us all the ability to make our own choices and at age 17 my son wanted to run away to live with his girlfriend. The girlfriend's parents allowed him to stay there with their daughter as if they were adults...what 17 year old boy wouldn't want that...so I agree that his environment played a part but not his home...and as far as "being there". I was there...at every game, parent teacher conference, boy scout meetings, etc.

What does the son’s point of view have to do with what the parents do with their money?

karl nicolas 100%

When the COVID-19 rolled through. People have all kinds of issues with uncertainty, and Dave's not trained to deal with some of it. It's good to have backup. That being said, just like all of the other Ramsey personalities, I think he's building a brand for some kind of other show. He did the same with Chris Hogan, Rachel, Ken, etc.

This is the point of Dr D

When the economy shut down

I got real questions like do I own too much house after getting out of debt and I don't know if my message will ever get read. (Before you comment, their phone lines are always busy and they get hundreds of thousands of emails.)

Ding ding ding! Yep, mommy starts right out of the gate with the financial power she has, how bad her son is, and how he won't get any of it because he refused to conform or be controlled...at 18yrs old. I'm sorry, lady, I guess the audience missed the part where your son is pissed off or fighting to get your precious money all while not wanting anything to do with you. Lol. She needs a shrink to show her how she's so BLATANTLY creating division between her children; sister is "good", so she's executor, brother is "bad" so gets the punishment of getting nothing AND his sister being able to execute the will. This is soooo typical of narcissistic abuse.

How on earth do you deduce all that from that statement?

@@paulab984 when you grow up with a parent who is a narcissist you learn the way these people operate.

@@juniorsgonewild Annnd because it happened to you that automatically makes you the expert I determining what is going on in other peoples lives. Got it.

@@prissylovejoy702 no. What happened is, I watched a video, formed an opinion and posted it in the section where the hosting company solicits and allows comment. For some reason you read what I said and started sulking.

Yep it's a big red flag to me that she seems to not acknowledge doing ANYTHING wrong-hallmark of a narcissist.

I agree sounds like his parents are very controlling and maybe they were not really there for him growing up so there is no reason that he wants to be there! Or...he is on drugs but that does not sound like that.

Did his CO host really say my wife gets a (vote) this doesn't seem sexist at all does he 🤔🤣 Dude your wife helps make decisions she not just a vote she's half of the decision making process

They have the right to withhold an inheritance, but they don't have the right to outright control someone. He'll change when he's ready, she needs to let go.

He seems rebellious!

Dude. That was my childhood. I'm legit shattered.

@@writingonthewall3326 Unfortunately it's most people's childhoods. That's why most people hate their mothers.

An overbearing/nagging mother is evil? Interesting.

@@graceandglamor Yes, the worst thing a mother/father could do to their child is take away their innocence and responsibility. Most overbearing and nagging parents especially mothers do that alot to their kids.

SOBC equating being nagging or overbearing to “taking away a child’s innocence” is a complete non sequitor

hes 18 he can do what he wants right

@Johnny Five amen! you hit the nail on the head, why should it be shocking that he/she lives on his/her own at 18? that's the age when adult life begins.

I am so surprised at this call. I am Mexican and as a culture we are pretty controlling as parents. I have 2 white friends who’s parents pretty much kicked them out whenever they turned 18, so my mind is blown right now because I was under the impression that as a culture white people were like that. My other friend is from Spain and she still lives with her parents but has all freedom of an adult and I envy her so much /: rent is too expensive where I am to move out so I’ll continue living with my controlling parents and save on rent 😅

@charles sanchez the runaway is not mature.

He was our play puppet for 18 years

JC Tutoring exactly.. who would want to leave mom and dads house when you could live with them and save money? clearly there’s something wrong with the parents.

Perhaps the child didn't like the rules. A lot of children out here these days are disrespectful, disobedient, ungrateful, & entitled. I'm a mother of 2 adult children, 1 is responsible the other isnt, guess which one got kicked out.

Melissa VE That is possible, although just because you have rules in place doesn’t mean they’re reasonable or justified. Some parents simply take it too far, which I suspect happened based on how he left.

I’m sure they know the backstory. It would be too risky for Dave to answer this question without knowing more than she’s said on the radio.

Melissa VE we don’t know the whole story, and neither does DR. All I could think listening to this was my own situation a decade ago - my alcoholic father made several “rules” after I came out. He wasn’t religious, just conservative. Today, I’m a successful, responsible, productive member of society - but it took far longer to get here than it needed to. The saddest part of all was the damage done to my relationship with my younger sister, whom I wasn’t allowed to communicate with after I left. Not all 18 year olds are the same, and not all parents are either.

Exactly--"My way or the highway and what you feel doesn't even count."

Yup 👍

Her 3 children didn’t move out, but the youngest one does. This gives the lady credibility

Whoa--I missed that; will re-listen.

FAX

yes 100%

Yeah something is off here.

@@Elizabeth-yg2mg Me too, she's speed talking and didn't catch most of it. LOL

Johan w nah bad kids are a result of bad parenting. Just like a animal.

Agreed. I moved out a week after turning 18. My mother was too controlling and I just wanted to have my own life. She begged me to come back, and despite the challenges of being a broke young adult in the real world, I wouldn't trade the independence for anything.

Johan w Kids, when adults, are a direct result of the parenting. So yes, almost ALWAYS.

You was the scapegoat

@@slicksteve22 Not always. It also depends on the kind of people you hang out with. I guess it also depends on the neighborhood too. It's much easier to change a "normal" kid to doing bad stuff than the reverse, so if you're in a friend group and one person starts taking hard drugs or committing small crimes, you can be sure that friend group will fissure in the future.

I don't think my mom's that bad.

I did, too. I told her, “I don’t want anything of yours.” She was a narcissist, psychologically abusive. She left a legacy of lies and damage.

Good for you ! I thought it was really weird that he would have to jump through hoops to get his inheritance. The more hoops the more he gets ? So weird to treat your family this way. Big red flag !!

He doesn’t deserve a dime if he won’t even talk to them.

Joshua Person You can’t take it with you.

No doubt

Its like he's disgusted with all of them for ganging up on him

That's why my loving parents NEVER said those words. They are great parents but they vowed they wouldn't say something like that. I don't think it's because they thought if they said that we'd take them up on it, but I think that they never wanted us to feel like we didn't have a place to go if we needed a home. Hope that made sense.

Yep. My family was the same way. I moved to another state. They all said "I can't believe you left." I told them I literally just picked an option

What’s even more telling? Another family took him in. If someone’s taking you in, you are getting the 9th degree. Why are you leaving? Is it just a silly reason like you don’t enjoy cleaning? You ain’t getting supported by non blood if you are just a spoiled brat who - ohhhhhh.... she hits you.... wait what? EXCUSE ME?! On hon for the love of god please come in here, you are 18 and I will help you get into adult hood. You don’t need to suffer anymore. *THEN* that family calls the other family to confirm, and when she asks about the claimed behavior, Tracy decides to boast about how “this is our home and I’ll parent how I want. Don’t you judge me”. Which confirms everything the kid said

Well Said! Agreed

I was thinking the same. I don't talk to my mom for very very good reasons! And she's very aware of those reasons. 😪 but maybe these friends got him into drugs...

@@annabella2528 I'm with you on this.

I always question when people say family values ....... like can you elaborate please ?

anna bella I agree. It’s definitely possible he may be into drugs and down a bad path. Then on the other hand, his family may be dysfunctional. We’ll never know!

Projection. Having a bpd mother doesn't make you professional or a psychic, and you don't know what HE has gotten into, could be running with the wrong crowd. And people need to stop weaponizing other people's serious disabilities to apply to anything they don't like.

Projection. Having a bpd mum doesn't make you a professional or a psychic. But when you are a hammer, everything is a nail. If bpd is still coloring everything you see and hear, there are unabated issues that need to be dealt with. How do you know he isn't running with a criminal org or got into trouble he is too embarrassed to face his family? Yes, she said Mothers Day, because it is important to mothers, that she is. There is absolutely nothing in this one sided phone call that indicates anything more than a family fallout. And I come from a family with BPD. It is OK to call life events just normal problems, and doesn't always have to be taken to the worst conclusion.

@@Nylon_riot what am I projecting? I never said she has BPD nor did I say I’m a medical professional

@@Nylon_riotthe problem is people don’t say it like that yes it’s true information that he left on that weekend. However, when people are dealt with trauma they don’t add up miscellaneous information like that unless you’re overthinking it and trying to make up a lie.

I’ve never known a parent who uses an inheritance as a carrot to be a good person.

I wouldn't be able to live in a house with her either

I feel bad he had to deal with that for 18 years

It's probably an introvert guy, Straight A student who hates people who "bla bla". And is not allowed to express his own opinion or views. For such person, such home is like a PRISON.

Yeah wait and see how long it takes before his new famy kicks him out or he leaves because he cant follow their rules.

@@morebrainmoregains3234 Nope. I'm not a zoomer and I agree with this thread

Yeah, and why a financial show?

@@hunterj.730 For real. It sounds like I stumbled on an episode of Dr. Phil.

She hopes money might control him. It sounds like a crazy religion issue

For life. This kid will never talk to his family again. He will be wildly successful and start his own family.

It sounds like he is still in high school tho

I'm thinking it's an addiction problem.

@Heinrich Himmler judging by your user name so are you

TstormVA2012 definitely not an addiction problem

@@TstormVA2012 might be but I doubt it. Been through the same situation with my gf. It wasn't an addiction thing. Neither of us do drugs or anything. Her home life was terrible.

@@TstormVA2012 did you hear in the beginning about their rules and guidelines. There's more to the story and I doubt it's addiction .

Retired Manager morale of the story, build relationships with your children outside of draconian parenting

She kept mentioning if he returns home there's rules and guidelines so he's probably running away from those in the first place. 😬

IDontKnow WhoIAm lets all agree that “breaking” into the home is a bit of a stretch... it’s being proposed as if some random person broke in

IDontKnow WhoIAm "broke into a home" yet it was to get HIS stuff People don't run away because of addiction. There just way too controlling. I've seen so many ppl rebel and act out because of poor parenting(too strict).

That is what everyone thinks. Some kids go through rebellious times and parents put up boundaries and eventually the kid “comes to”. Honestly, those helping this kid out are evil. They are preventing an important lesson and a rock bottom moment.

It's probably something incredibly stupid simply because he's 18

If he wasn't on drugs or bipolar etc but the other family dissing this family, there might be something to it. That is odd and the older kids, I don't know if he doesn't engage because they'd tell the parents what he said.

Yep, same situation for me and I can tell she is withholding information. She sounds just like my mom when I finally hear what she’s been saying about me!

@@Jaxmusicgal23 Oh, you were expecting perfect parents?

@@label1877 some people shouldn’t be parents if they can’t do the bare minimum like not being abusive

I am in the same boat, left my parents, graduated. Got married, they did not come to either and I do not talk to them. Best decision I have ever made. That lady is leaving so much out, rather not intentionally, they should have pressed for more info.

@@label1877 you know the bare basics like not calling on a financial show about your personal problems with your son. Do not talk badly about your kids behind their backs. I found out my father talked shit behind mine when I was 16. Your personal opinions should not ever go into the equation when raising your kids. Ever.

Yeah :/

They just take the callers words at face value and can never read between the lines.

I think Dave was getting a clue but not the counselor who's not very effective imo. They only have a few minutes on here.

I don’t think so.

I mean they aren't there to judge the parents they give her advice like

I feel sorry for you, and hope you can stay strong :) But some kids run away because they feel entitled; they don't want to follow basic rules because their friends have "do what you want/get what you ask for" households. "You don't love me because you won't give me a car and make me do house chores." Yeah that's not what love is. Love is showing you how to be responsible and providing a roof over your head and food on the table.

Katarina Karakaš well said, there is two sides to this story!!

Colbert Ta I agree with you, that's also very true 😊

@@colby__3185 Those kids come back almost immediately when they realize the world doesn't owe them anything. I've never seen a zero-contact situation that didn't involve abusive parents.

That's facts!!

Are you kidding me?! This is the kind of evil generation of kids we are seeing today. Narcissist kids who are ungrateful, disrespectful to parents and elders, who want their way with everything. America as a society with the kinds of kids growing uo today no accountability, no sense of morals, respect for elders and wisdom will completely destroy themselves and this country. You are an absute disgrace just like her 18 yo. How you do think you got where you are today? Your parents raised you gave you everything they could and you go on here to bad mouth them. Just wow!!

@@michaelkensington2494 your just talking buddy . say a whole lot of nothing

@@jamalsanders2913 ikr what he talking about

@@michaelkensington2494 You sound like a narc too.

@@Elizabeth-yg2mg Liz you are the evil generation that we see today. It was not like this in your grandparents generation. Ive seen kids throw away their parents. Force them into nursing homes, apartments and not once come visit them. One man died and none of his kids knew he was dead until the landlord came to collect the rent. You don't see anything wrong here because you are part of this generation of evil.

Yeah he sounds like he is doing great when he is about to fail high school and using drugs.

@@hollystiener16 😕

@@hollystiener16 Dave assumed he's doing drugs. No one knows that from the call.

You don’t know that. But I will say that the situation is a bit suspicious.

No it sounded like he might not graduate. People don't fall off the cliff like that unless there is something seriously wrong like drugs or mental illness.

@@littleripper312 no it’s all fake made up stuff in her head. The kid is probably doing fine without her

@@kevinarzola4781 YESSS! My mom tells people how bad I am doing and stalks my old friends…. I am fine without her but she can’t handle that I can survive without her interwoven into my life!!!! My hubby and I had to sever ties to be free from the crazy control…. She even called CPS in her state and ours trying to get “grandparents” rights to her grandchildren! Of course they laughed and said they needed concrete proof of abuse or neglect, which she didn’t have and stories wouldn’t cut it thank God. This “mom” is hemming and hawing and seems to be “painting an emotional picture”. Narcissistic people are good at that and it makes it very hard to get local support from your community because of it.

Butterfly I can almost 100% tell you that it is the family based on the way the mother seems. I am very unhappy living in my parents' home and intend to move out when I turn 18 and can afford to do so. No one knows what his situation is and I can tell you based on personal experience that living with toxic family members can cause mental health issues. Personally I applaud the kid for getting out while he was still sane. Nobody knows how to take care of you better than you.

She basically exposed herself. She is the problem in this.

I am not sure they are helping him

He was way off base here. It’s possible that a straight A student suddenly went nuts and went no contact for no reason and is lying to others about his parents, but it’s more likely that there’s more to the story than that. It’s impossible to know for sure based on this quick clip with only one perspective, but I’d put my money on the parents being abusive in some way.

Agreed. This comment from him was super disappointing.

Because he brought dishonor to his parents.

Hes not a child anymore because hes 18

@@Faze742 We’re all always someone’s child. And just because they’ve been alive 18 years doesn’t mean their psyche was able to develop to that of an adults. Psychological abuse is very real and can lock people in childlike states of mind well into adulthood.

@@tmr5932 yeah hes some ones child but at the end of the day if your 18 and older your legally an adult

@@Faze742 you clearly don’t get the point and are hung up on the number 18, which is an arbitrary number, btw.

@@tmr5932 agreeeed

Prolly making him go to church and eat a certain way save his money etc. Idk why people think they can mold people to an exact image of themselves then if they dont want to be that way they are rebellious and horrible. Get a grip "parents"

Disagree, they easily can become rebellious, fall in with bad friends, drinking, drugs, partying etc.

Yup, kids want security, no matter how rebellious they are. Unless they’re on hardcore drugs, they always want to be somewhere safe. I’m betting on home issues and a mother playing the victim.

They not accepting the fact that he is 18

@@teresayeates3437 Remember that, here, you have only one side of the story and it is already suspicious. That's very easy to side with the only side of the story you're given. This mom is really leaving a lot out.

ghos7fire son’s

@@NicE-jq3wv there are lot of sons

RIGHT!

“Her resentments” There are ways to know if someone is resentful. If they bring it up too much. She didn’t bring it up a lot.

@@honestfriend767 it’s the fact that she brought it up at all . she woulda never brought it up if she didn’t feel some type of way about it

@@honestfriend767 When did that become the definition of resentful? If anything repeating something over and over is a sign of obsession. You can be resentful and obsessed with your resentment or just resentful the normal way.

@@jamalsanders2913 she might be hurt but not resentful. She only brought it up once and never brought it up again.

Well said. Two sides to every story.

Bingo

"May God guide this 18 year old and his family in a good direction." You mean, "Bible-God"? What "God" are you talking about?

Absolutely!!!!

So true. This segment drove me nuts. No one is wondering about his perspective, they jumped straight into how the family that took him in are idiots, he’s ungrateful, made all these assumptions about his character. And they assume he’s going to crawl back. We don’t know any of this and id love to hear his perspective.

Happy Place, Dave needs a legit psychologist to help him with these calls before somebody gets hurt

dave always side with females they are never wrong

@@zero1188 SIIIIIIIIIMP Ramsey

Dave is not that intellectually sophisticated, that's why he jumps to unsound conclusions so fast. It requires intelligence and nuance thinking to take into account both sides of the story.

Totally agree.

laurah6381 I wish him luck

And so much is probably going on with this child.

Exactly.

Lol. Everyone is a narcissist except you 🤣 you have everyone diagnosed as a narcissist and you're not even 18 years old. Too funny. Good luck see how that works for you.

Alex Colegate bingo. They’re probably unrelenting in their standards and smothered him.

Or maybe he's just a kid who got in with the wrong people and is now in a downward spiral. We don't know but the lady here sounded sincere.

@J F Sure but to label someone a narcissist so willy nilly is ridiculous.

@Dave P So is saying he’s in with the wrong crowd

@@Jayday12345678910 If you look at what I responded to you would see that it was a response to them jumping to conclusions by offering up another possibility. That's all it was. I also said verbatim "we don't know".

buyerbware25 that was a strange one. If I was Dave I would’ve said “Next call please “

charles sanchez if I would’ve left my parents house at 18 My mom wouldn’t shed a tear. As she said You’re 18 ? I did my job. LoL.

@charles sanchez considering the therapist also said the kids don't get a vote on their feelings for their own lives for the 10 25 and 50 years plans?

@@Ladywizard And that he gave his wife "permission" to have a say...with therapists like these, who needs enemies?

Christian cult

Glad you have had the determination and drive to make good choices! Congratulations on your success. You have an admirable testimony of independently building a secure future.

I think Dave is assuming the kid has a drug problem. The kid left the family because they were being strict on the drug issue and so he moved into a family of enablers who let him use drugs.

@@Corey1873 it would make sense if it weren’t for mom saying she’s never known him to use any drugs

@@kenziehoogenboom1803 The mom says she suspects drugs are involved in his change of behavior. Basically the picture she paints is that he was a model kid getting straight As. Something happened and his grades dropped, he started acting out and not following the house rules, he ran away, moved out as soon as he turned 18, stopped contacting the family, and broke in twice. The mom suspects drugs are involved but she doesn't know for sure because he doesn't talk to them. Of course she could be lying and something happened that ruined his impression of the family.

@@Corey1873 yeah the big issue is just not having enough information from multiple people, I know my grades dropped when I was younger and I tried to run away but that was from abuse but I know people who have ran away because of substance abuse etc. really it’s just not a good situation to be broadcasting but social media will do as it does I supposeee

Yup

Actually there are 3 sides: 1 parent’s side, 2 kid’s side and finally 3 the truth.

Anne Philipsien your absolutely right✅✅

Thats a fact, gotta hear his side

True! But he can find his own path without cutting out his family right? He can have boundaries and respect one another. The fact that he cut all his family members is very shady..

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@andyadam94 You can’t control what the other person does, and it’s dangerously naive to think everyone has a baseline of reason and decency. Comments like yours explain why people stay in bad relationships… because they’re projecting a decency on the other person that isn’t there. I hope you’re never in such a relationship. When people show you who they are, believe their actions over your own wish that things were different. There are lots of people who have no respect for other people, let alone will abide by their boundaries. Most of those people also have families they treat the same way. Indecent people aren’t magically different for their families.

@@Angaloth19Please make channel and share your advices on KZfaq too. I like your comments writing style and explanation. Adult children need this kind of thinking skills more from people like you . 😊

Yeah probably a strong-willed child who can't stand his parents boundaries or rules.

Or he was disciplined and then he got into drugs. We don’t know both sides of the story, but that also doesn’t mean we should just automatically assume the son is 100% in the right either.

Thomas Borisov bro we can’t tell anything from her voice except that she was upset. You’re adding bizarre meaning for no reason. I don’t know if you have had a bad experience but it doesn’t make sense to just add weird meaning to others.

@@grantwilliams630 if it was just a drug thing then he wouldn't leave with no contact like that. He would try to stay and milk any kind of money he could to pay for his addiction. He would at least try with his siblings. But he had no contact with any of them, and also when he snuck back in the house he didn't steal money, just his stuff. The evidence does not point to drugs

@Valiant Thor exacta

She definitely does. Couldn’t keep quiet either.

So if she was strong and commanding and a man, that would be celebrated. Ok Boomer

@@NicE-jq3wv Fun fact, masculine traits are more desirable in men and feminine traits are more desirable in women. Biology

Judgy and unreasonable comment. The person who is potentially on drugs (very sad) and cut his parents out for not wanting to follow the rules...of course has nothing to reform...think about it...the person who flees is usually the one who doesn't want to try..of course the mom is strong! But she was also crying in pain! Where does all this criticism come from????

I apologize for asking, but do you have connection with your parents now?

Maybe she meant that she is emotionally hurt and needing healing when she said "How do I move forward?"

@@mahaonexpress my mom died 17 years ago. I have my dads phone number.. and he has mine.. but no.. the only way I'll be able to perform at his bedside when he's old is if I stay away from him while he's still healthy.

You dont look 40 at all, stunning

gamer Guy thank you very much... I needed that confidence boost.. feeling out of shape today

21 I’m just waiting on my time. Abuse is most of the time a cause for extreme situations where you want to disconnect w parents

Me too

Same. I did not pick up until I was in my 20s. I wish I had come go that awakening sooner. But better late than never.

Same, 17 and now 64. My father died a multimillionaire and left us nothing.

Be glad he gone ! Pray for him and move on!!

Countess Ratzass if you cut ties with the family, why would you expect him to leave you money. So you never cared to amend the relationship but you want his money??

Travs Is stupid Long story.

I find that kids these days are far more immature than previous generations and adolescence is a hard stage to go through and so they blame their parents for everything. How do you think they got the name Snowflake

Parenting is a dictatorship by nature. I parent who isn't a dictator is doing parenting wrong

@@formerfundienowfree4235 being 18 you are not a kid. Lady, there is nothing wrong with leaving the house at 18 and being on your own. The son has nobody to prove to and doesn't need anyone's affirmations or sense of respect. Learn to respect differences in opinions and to have an honest conversation with your children as you would with a friend or coworker. At the age of 12 or 13 kids stop listening to their parents; maybe you just smoke too much crack or something but you should remember what being a kid is like for 5 minutes.

Wrong kids are much more mature today​@@formerfundienowfree4235

​@@Poopticklingbandit At 18 years old, you are still a kid. They just had to pick an age for someone to become legally an adult but just because you're an adult legally doesn't mean you're one psychologically. The law and biology/chemistry/physics don't always line up.