MY CNC DOES MAGIC ⚙ ( Smoothieboard ATC Router Conversion )

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Arthur Wolf

Arthur Wolf

6 жыл бұрын

A video about my project to convert my Smoothieboard-powered CNC router to use an ATC ( Automated Tool Change ) spindle.
See :
* Smoothieware.org/atc
* Robotseed.com
The synopsis for this video:
Intro:
* Hey everyone, I made a thing !
* So I've been working on this project for a few months on and off, very exited it's finally working
* It's not finished yet, but it's actually usable at this point
* The project was to convert my CNC router from the classic manual tool change spindle, where you bolt tools in by hand, to an automated system or ATC
So what's an ATC:
* Allows use of different tools in a single job without manual tool changes
* Pretty much magic
* Saves a ton of time and allows for more complex jobs
* In this case it's using a spindle with a pneumatic tool clamp
This implementation:
* So I had lots of misadventures along the way : first spindle wasn't properly grounded ( factory issue from the manufacturer ) and caused breaker trips and shocks, I got lots of help from the community figuring that out. In the end the manufacturer replaced the spindle.
* The spindle maker ( JLG ) was extremely unhelpful in terms of support/documentation, they couldn't provide instructions that make any sense, had to figure it out from the internet and trial and error
* I also had to make the tool rack and all the compressed air stuff
* This is a 40 000 RPM spindle, which should be good for aluminium. It's 25 hundred Watts
* The collets are ISO20, with ER16 tool holding
How the spindle works:
* Pretty much you use it like a normal spindle with a Variable Frequency Drive, but it has an internal tool grabbing mechanism
* It's got various compressed air inputs, the main one is a locking/release mechanism. Also one for a seal, and one to prevent dust from entering the spindle
* You control air going into the inputs with electrovalves, each controlled by a mosfet on the Smoothieboard
How software side works:
* We have to generate the right gcode sequence to grab and release each tool
* We do this by remembering which tool is currently being carried. When a new tool is required, we go deposit the current tool at it's parking position, and go grab the other one.
* We use a custom Fusion360 post-processor for this, later I'll be teaching Smoothie to do it ( most of the work already done )
* Fusion360 has post-processors written in Javascript and a fully documented interface, which lets you do pretty much any crazy thing you think of, including this
Documentation :
* Ongoing at smoothieware.org/atc
Machine:
* Robotseed RS-6090R
* 600x900mm router with 80mm Z
* I sell this machine and other custom Smoothie-powered machines surch as cnc mills, routers, giant 3D printers and laser cutters at robotseed.com
Outro:
* If you want to implement the same thing, see the documentation but don't hesitate to ask for help
* I'm looking for help with implementing the Smoothie side of things, help very welcome
Thanks:
* Jim Morris for helping me figure out how to get Smoothie to do this
* Folks at the tyfab fablab
* The folks in ##electronics, Jim Morris again, and Adam Green for listening to all the spindle grounding problems and offering solutions
* The router was paid for by Region Bretagne, thanks a ton
Thanks for watching !

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@fred_derf
@fred_derf 5 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about the accent, it's way better listening to you discuss your project then watching the videos that just have craptastic music so you have to try to figure out what's going on. BTW: Congratulations on the ATC, it looks very slick.
@HoY_82
@HoY_82 5 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a similar spindle from the same company, and have gotten it setup and working, but instead of using fusion 360 for the tool changing I will be writing a script for Mach 4 to do the tool changes when new tools are called for in the G code. I'm just about ready to start that part, but for now its working well as a quick change spindle
@danieldunham9978
@danieldunham9978 5 жыл бұрын
That little spindle wobble it does will letting go of the holder will be hard on your tooling and spindle taper over the long term.
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I need to get rid of it in the long term. I think the main reason I have to do it is because things are not well aligned with each other, if I'm more careful and take more precise measurements, I should be able to set things up in a way where it doesn't get stuck. Thanks for the warning, I agree it's definitely bad long term.
6 жыл бұрын
Énorme ! 👍😎
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 6 жыл бұрын
\o/
@aarondcmedia9585
@aarondcmedia9585 5 жыл бұрын
Is the pull stud on T6 loose? Looks like a gap between stud and tool holder? Great vid - good to know ATC is possible for the general user, well done on getting it to work and letting us know of the resource you are creating to show how. Merci!
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
It's from a different manufacturer so it looks a tad different but the dimensions are the same.
@lordgarak
@lordgarak 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the ATC spindle?
@zakel5750
@zakel5750 6 жыл бұрын
From Alibaba.com, i get the same spindle JLG ATC ISO20
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 6 жыл бұрын
The seller is JLG, it's their 2.5KW ISO20 40000RPM model. See Aliexpress/alibaba.
@772777777777777
@772777777777777 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video showing the intimate details of the types of valves needed for an ATC and how to wire it into your breakout board and into the software i e Mach
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
The valves are the basic type you can find anywhere. For wiring and tube connections I'm planning on making a full documentation but don't know when I will. About the software, this uses Smoothieware and bCNC, not Mach. I plan on documenting that side too.
@gjebox
@gjebox 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurWolf a quick video would help understanding what i need need to do asim looking to implement asap
@Mamoondar
@Mamoondar 2 жыл бұрын
what is the spindle cost? do you have link?
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 2 жыл бұрын
It was about $2200. The maker was JLB in China, they didn't have a website.
@Mara2000sdf1
@Mara2000sdf1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, any new advances? On Github, the project is unupdated for a year. Thank you for your amazing work :-)
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 4 жыл бұрын
No advance, very busy with Smoothie v2. However for a customer I have to set up ATC on a very large 5 axis cnc mill ( not a router ) and that will force me to do progress on this. Should happen in the coming weeks. Thanks for the support :)
@monseigneur_x
@monseigneur_x 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo Arthur, en es tu satisfait? je suis en projet de me faire une cnc et j'hesites avec cette spindle qui represente un gros investissement comparé à une classique...
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
J'en suis satisfait, mais le coté controle/generation du gcode est encore en phase proto, j'ai pas eu le temps de faire murir tout ca pour le moment. Je pense que ca vaut la peine quand meme de prendre une broche ATC.
@monseigneur_x
@monseigneur_x 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurWolf Merci pour ton retour rapide ;) Je vais y méditer ces 2 prochaines semaines avant de faire mes commandes car je n'ai pas du tout les connaissances necessaire pour :), il y a un autre francais sur youtube qui a fait le meme systeme que le tiens, je ne sais pas si tu le connais... voici sa video : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZruPjal_z9--YGQ.html
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
@@monseigneur_x Nice
@baptistenrs6495
@baptistenrs6495 4 жыл бұрын
Salut tu serais pas français par hazard ? Si oui ce serait le top pour moi ! Car je parle pas anglais, et je compte acheter cette broche ;) En attente de ta réponse avec impatience !
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 4 жыл бұрын
Oui oui.
@baptistenrs6495
@baptistenrs6495 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurWolf La broche est une 2.2KW ? Peux tu me dire si tu usines de l'alu avec? Et également ou est ce que tu l'as acheté, possible de me mettre le lien ? Merci d'avance Baptiste
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@baptistenrs6495 Oui, / Oui / Chez JLG ils sont dans Google.
@birdmun
@birdmun 6 жыл бұрын
Don't be so hard on yourself with respect to your accent. It is better you try speaking English than some English speakers trying out a foreign tongue. :D I include myself in that group that shouldn't try another language and I took four years of Spanish in high school. :)
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 6 жыл бұрын
Eh thanks :) I'm going to try practicing and it should get better, but it does sound pretty bad even to my own ears :)
@falsedragon33
@falsedragon33 5 жыл бұрын
You English isn't so bad, but still needs a lot of work with muscle memory. I know other say its no biggie and make a horrid straw-man that they can't do better in another tongue. The truth is, English is it. As an Engineer, I work with many who have accents like yours. Their success is always correlated with how well they speak English. No matter how smart you are, being functionally illiterate in a complex field, that needs complex dialog, is never good.
@falsedragon33
@falsedragon33 5 жыл бұрын
And I forget to mention, your tool holder is SWEET! Well done!
@aldo6717
@aldo6717 5 жыл бұрын
without spindle orientation=crap
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
What
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
Are you saying it's crap because it doesn't have a 4th/5th axis head ? I'm sorry I have a hard time understanding, if you could clarify.
@aldo6717
@aldo6717 5 жыл бұрын
the think that u did there is not safe. u are using a taper 30 holder without a key holding it only by pressure It may will spin inside the spindle .If the tapered washers inside the spindle brakes (it happens pretty often ) at 24000rpm ?
@ArthurWolf
@ArthurWolf 5 жыл бұрын
@@aldo6717 I don't understand what you mean "without a key holding it"
@aldo6717
@aldo6717 5 жыл бұрын
if u look at a cnc holder u will see 2 slots on the flange that will lock into the spindle to prevent spinning it.
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