I followed your AR Wing build with a Matek F405 and now I'm a big fan of Matek. Thanks for your videos!

Listening to your caveats list reminds me of why i like this channel. Thank you for your time and effort, this was very informative. I am looking forward to playing with my mro.Pixhawk for my next rover/tricopters because of my prior experience with Ardupilot.

Another clear concise video with pretty much exactly all the info I'm looking for with out a bunch of fluff. Love your vids.

Just getting into flying quads, this was a very informative video for me. Thank you.

Really good introduction and overview of the traps and opportunities ... and very well aimed ...

Thanks this was very helpful! I've done two F411-wing builds and they work but had vtx power issues. Powering the vtx directly from the battery and powering the camera from the vtx seemed to fix this. I'm wrapping up a Radix Li/Bixler build and really looking forward to getting it in the air.

Thanks for this. I've been thinking of deep diving back into this. I helped a group of UCF engineering students successfully make a way over the top ambitious quadcopter project. I did all the programming interfacing a raspberry pi with a pixhawk board, ardupilot, etc. - the flying lawnmower (nickname since the hexacopter was swinging 12" rotors, yikes) had a robotic claw and a vision system (forget the camera board name) so it could fly mission, reach a waypoint then follow APRL code signs to hone in on targets and grab them and bring them back and stack them neatly LOL! It makes my brain hurt just remembering all the crazy connections with software and hardware, including a smartphone app with a nice control interface (buttons and telemetry gagues ). I still can't believe it worked (mostly). But I have no interest in doing anything that ambitious again. Just some quads, fixed wings and rovers for the tinkering pleasure of it. This video is a good overview of what's around today.

brilliant found my old crius flight board the other day.... good old times

Well done! Thanks.

F765 works great with Raspberry Pi 0W. Lovely board, tests (improves!) your soldering skills ;-)

thanks for this information :)

Very informative, thanks for sharing I subscribe to you thanks again 😎

I have a holybro discontinued now still brand new nearly took my mates head off while tuning it trying to find out why it was shaking ect .jyro was stupidly sensitive.wow .they did nothing about it for me so I'm stuck with it lol.could sofmount it and make a rubber frame maybe then it may work lol.

Useful review, I have always thought Matek stuff looks nice. I'm familiar with some of those boards but not all, but it does seem you have concentrated on 30.5mm boards. I've only been doing this (quads for racing / freestyle type use with betaflight) for 2.5 years, and my first used an Omnibus F4 pro with Matek PDB and DYS ESCs. This was a 160mm frame with 3" props. Weight is everything on these things even before you think about CAA / registration / remote id issues, so I then swapped the Omnibus etc for an F3 SPCMaker (genuine) FC and quad ESC (20mm). Saved about 30g, which on something with (no battery) weight of about 135g now is a huge percentage. I've also used Eachine 20mm F3 FCs and ESCs. Very similar, never had a bad one of either. I do not see myself making anything with all up weight over 250g (3" or 4" max) any time soon, and I guess I'm not alone, so how about a similar survey of 20mm kit? The need to move to F4 is irritating though inevitable. It seems to me that for my use anyway, an F3 has more than adequate performance at the moment. The only issue is code space, and that is only an issue because of all the included features I don't use - but they are all there. For instance the (F4 only) feature for allowing the FC to act as a Rx joystick on a simulator is nice - but not really necessary when flying. The F4 also causes 'inversion grief' with FrSky protocols, because the UARTs do not natively support inversion. (Why did FrSky do it that way?) I build my own versions with slight changes, and I don't know if you've ever looked at the code, but it is a maze of #idef's, so one can just leave stuff out as necessary. I guess what would be nice is a web server build system which allows the end user to include only necessary facilities, ie build on demand.

You are the best! Tks

Thanks you! The brainFpv indeed looks nice, it's small and should fit all my 3d printed planes, like my cc3d used to do :)

Thanks for producing this video series they are very informative. I do have a question, I intend to build a replica of the Avro Arrow and would like your advice on which would be the best controller system for this build. I want it to be able to follow waypoints, stablelise, and carry a cam. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for your video series.

Thanks Lee, you touched on a lot of bases... I'm a Pixhawk fan and I learned my lessons on the Pixhawk Clones trying to save a few bucks on ebay. Never again..! I'm still waiting on my PM07 Power Management Board from 3DXR, it's in NYC as of today, should be here shortly in NM, USA...! =)

I've been traveling for the last 4 years so have been away from R/C. I found this video this evening after spending the afternoon dismantling 5 Naza, APM, and KK2 drones. Remember the F330, F450, and Discover frames? Yep, headed for the trashcan. A friend just sent me his old Mavic Air 1 and I will add a Mini 2 for our travels.

I am about to use a 765-WIng and want to do waypoint missions with Ardupilot and Mission Planner. I have both old JR X10 and 3DR Iris transmitters. They both take Futaba modules, and I have a FRSky DJT 2.4 Ghz module already that will go into either. I just ordered an R-XSR receiver, which is S-bus. My question is, how can I connect a laptop or iPhone to send Mission Planner data to that receiver? Can I connect to the DJT module or do I have to buy something else?

How about a video comparing how ArduPilot and iNav stand these days? In the past I have always gone for ArduPilot for fixed wing but that was based on maybe some out of date ideas about iNav. Is it still a worthwhile option to use, say, a Matek board with ArduPilot or are the capabilities of iNav up there? What will I be missing if iNav was used instead? Obviously using Pixhawk hardware brings other advantages such as hardware redundancy - but other than that...?

Great videos, earned a sub! I learned a lot from your videos and I will be using the pixhawk for my college senior design project. It is an aquatic drone that will collect various data in different parts of water. Data is collected on rapsberry pi and navigation is handled with pixhawk using ardurover.

Thx for the video. What would you suggest for better stability and reliability between Pixraser, Matek f-405, Matek f-765, Holy bro for a f-450 DJI frame. I know you made a video but didn’t compare it to any other flight controller. Size matter cause I would like to make smaller frame built soon. Thx

Hey Painless360 I have a bit of a challenging build. it's 250 quad but with a very small space to accommodate FC.. I have tgy i10 radio and three omnibus f4 flight controllers, two of them are pro versions from reputable eBay sellers. No matter what settings I put in betaflight or Inav. They won't connect. RX is fine as I had it connected to a different model and it worked just fine. Sbus or ppm just don't work. Been on it for a couple of weeks now and I feel that I had enough of omnibus boards. My last quad built on omnibus f4 pro v3 kept flipping at takeoff, spent weeks trying to solve it, and eventually got naza lite for it. what board would you recommend for 250 easy going mini quad? not a racer just like to fly things. Best regards Rad

Dear @Painless, I build drone 7" Mateks F405 by Inav and TX1-RX1 (MSP) Telemetry to RX-TX Air Unit DJI. Added TX5-RX5 setting at DJI VTX but nothing OSD on display Gogle or recording automatic. Are you fix it?

hi would I use Betaflight in my sky hunter racing aircraft or one of the others, cheers keep up the good work keeping us new pilots informed

Thank you for the hard work in putting this together I fancy an f7, is there a decent all in one?, but if I’m buying just a flight controller I’m not sure which esc will suit, do they all match?is there a simple shopping list? Still struggling thru this hobby, would love to build a gps fpv quad (inav) but I’m getting more and more confused

Awesome video, thank you. I will be sure to check out your store. I have a pixhawk cube waiting on Amazon.

I'm using the Noxe on BG a lot. Nice and cheap with lots of features for an F411. For BF or iNav. I've used more pricey boards but they break just as easy.

Thanks for the update. Is the ET Vector still in the running or is the BrainFPV a better board now? 👍

Thank you sir

hi, thank you for your video. A real newbie question. Are JR connectors, servo connectors and dupont connectors all the same thing? The clamps that go inside them, are they the same thing? Do you prefer soldering or connectors for the F765? thank you

I've happily used Betaflight on Chinese Omnibus FCs before, but I'm new to the world of PX4, iNav, etc. and autonomous craft. The Arducopter website says that running on Omnibus or low power (F4?) FCs will mean that not all features are available. Is there a list of what won't run? Is there any reason then to pick an expensive FC like a pixhawk cube over something like a Matek? Is there any noticeable performance difference? Or is the difference really just the high quality, redundancy, thermal stability, ect. of the pixhawks? I'm working towards building a large (24 inch, 3-5 lb) hexacopter for camera and video work. So I don't want to risk some Chineseum part failing and my whole craft crashing and killing someone.

I had four naze32 and an Illuminati32 board that I threw away months ago because I couldn't get it to connect to cleanflight, I even tried betaflight and I still couldn't get it to connect to the board.

I got F405-wing on all of my planes running arduplane. Now looking to upgrade to F765 but currently, matek boards are quite expensive. I got a look at kakute F7 AIO board. A bit cheaper. Do you think the holybro option is feasible? Thanks!

Hey yo painless dude. I am experimenting with various flight controllers and recently followed your lead to install a f405 wing into an aircraft with Ardupilot firmware. My question is why I am getting a cut down parameter set in Mission Planner. For example, I see in your vid that you have the ‘orientation’ option in the parameter list. I would like to turn the ‘405 through 180 degrees but AHRS ORIENTATION simply doesn’t exist in my parameter list. And I have been flying a mini pixhawk from Radiolink. It flies extremely well, and I notice that Radiolink has a rapidly growing presence. Are you considering doing a review?

Awesome vid! Is it recommended to use the F765 Wing FC on a quadcopter build?

Imliving a flight controler hell. I have 3 bricked Naze 32, and cc3d that worked but I could not get isolation under control and it crashed throwing blade into the board breaking the tiny connector pins. I can not find any real info on what control boards are supported by what software and how to configure the p I ds. I'm thinking about a betaflight f4 seeing as the software betaflight supports it, is it worth it?

hello @Painless360.... what is ur opinion about Naza M lite...?? is it good fc... i can't afford some of the fc that u had mentioned at the video... 😅😅😅

Do I need a flight controller for a drone or cvan I fly it like an rc plane with just the receiver?

I am new to flight controller use. Could you tell me what equipment i need for a non FPV volantex ranger using spektrum tx and Rx. I want to use a camera that records video, gps and RTHetc. Thank you in advance

Hey! Can you do a review about the Matek H743-WING that launched in August 2020, thanks!

My favorite is the mateksys f722 wing. I am thinking of getting the f765

Need help! Can I use FlySky FS-i6 Controller with my SG 906 Pro Drone instead of the one provided with the Drone by manufacturer.

Hi Lee, I am getting back into the hobby after a few years break and a lot has changed, so the video was very helpful. I was planning an f405/ardupilot/wing build, but almost immediately have hit a problem. My laptop is a Mac, and mission planner is not available for Mac. According to the documentation, the best GCS for Mac is APMPLANNER but that ceased development mid 2018, and no longer runs on Mac OS Catalina. That leaves QGroundControl, but I don't see many tutorials for that, it seems a little off the beaten track, and i fear it's not as fully featured as mission planner. Any thoughts on using QGC or should I change tracks and go back to INAV? Cheers. Laurence.

Hi I am currently building a VTOL fixed wing aircraft. The motors are thrust vectored. I have two motors in front and just one in the back so I suppose its a slightly bit unconventional and might have to provide much more power in the back than in the front. So I think I may need to modify the controller code a bit. What flight controller would you recommend?

What makes the Pixhawk unsuitable for FPV? I want to go FPV, but not for racing, more like freestyle, but at a more sedate pace...

How would I wire this on holybro PX4? RealPit VTX Power Switch

My Ranger 1600 had a real bad crash last Sunday, both wings and 2 servos are now destroyed. I was using an Arkbird Autopilot. These are the steps i allways follow before and during start: 1. Checking all servos and motor working. In manual as in balance mode. Also checking if servos reacting properly in balance mode. 2. Bringing plane to a height between 80 - 90m in Balance mode. 3. Switching to RTH, checking if plane starts flying around the homepoint. 4. Taking seat in my chair, putting on my reading glasses and then my Cyclops goggles. 5. Taking control over plane by myself. But this time, still in RTH Mode, the plane suddenly went straight down with an approximately angle of 30deg down and crashed into the undergrowth. Could not react that fast to do countermeasures. I guess it was the gyro, delivering a false angle to the processor. I assume this, because on previous flights i noticed that the artificial horizon was reacting very slowly when vibrations occur or when doing flight manouvers like loops, dive loops, immelman etc. It really took a few seconds until the artificial hoirizon matched with the real horizon i saw in my goggles. I now ordered a f765 wing and a new Ranger 1600. But since the Ranger has a fuselage made of plastic, it is more vibration susceptible for vibrations than a depron model i assume. I allready used a double layered damper pad for the Arkbird. Is the f765 better in reaction time and managing vibrations ? Or what else can i do when mounting this FC to reduce vibrations as much as possible. Thx and greetings from Berlin Germany

I use the Furious Fpv F35 lightning board for my Inav builds. Great size, easy set up with all wires and connectors supplied. Works flawlessly. 👍

What do you think about the Matek F765 Wing Flight Controller?

Lets not forget the Matek F722 wing! That falls in with the F405 and F765 all 3 are awesome FC's!!

Hi, is the F10 wing board on Banggood some kind of clone? What do you think of it?

Hi Lee, got the AKK F4 board for an inav 7" long range build with gps. Should I trust a better board like the matek ??

so F405 and F765-Wing is just as good for using ArduPilot as PixHawk or PixHawk clone ..?

Which flight controller can be used for a tiltrotor uav

I am trying to revive an old tricopter (mostly parts) and am searching for a suitable flight controller that can work with a tricopter. I know, not much out there for tricopters but I like how they look in the air. Maybe I am a romantic. Are there any suitable flight controllers and firmware out there in 2023? No bells and whistles, just needs to work and be available for purchase.

For matek f765 wing, is the battery only for 3-6s? What if I want to use 2s? Additionally can soldering be avoided?

Hi Lee, There is a growing third type of flying machine VTOLS. would you care to comment on what type of controller is suitable for this class

Good video, question, can you help me find a module to covert my JR652 72meg to 2.4 gig?

What flight controllers can support Y4 and Y6??

is the Vector by Eagle Tree still relevant? I don't see much YT content featuring the Vector these days.

Is there a F7 controller for a wing that already has the pins soldered? I am not really interested in learning a skill like soldering. Thanks in advance.

Can i use a matek 405 wing for a tailsitter vtol aircraft?

Anything wrong with using the Pixhawk 4 instead of the cube to save some bucks on a fix wing?

Hi greetings from Denmark, I have a Mavic 2 pro for my drone company, If i want to start Fpv on the side, What is a good start set?, i dont have any controller or googles

I dislike that the matek doesnt support a hardware arming switch. Its led to an issue with my escs arming. I run dual on the nimbus and only one arms unless i unplug and replug the pwm. For a cheaper option i like the pixhack stuff. Thanks for the vids

Can you please advise. I fly radio controlled gliders and on a few occasions have nearly lost a glider due to loosing sight. I would like to look at a flight controller with a RTH facility. Could you please advise possible solutions that would be compatible with my spectrum radio and receiver system. My spectrum radio has built in telemetry. Looking forward to your help. Kind regards Warren Massey Durban South Africa

Why you never cover PX4 for fixed wings?

Can a fualty FC cause batteries to drain quicker they should? Only casual flying with no extreme punchouts or flips and rolls.

Simple questions: betaflight has nothing to with the betafpv lite company that makes a transmitter betafpv lite radio 2 that had been advertised heavily as beginner

can you recommend an fc for an airplane?

Hi Sir Pls suggest flight controller for 250 frame and receiver for flysky ia6b Requirement altitude hold gps pos hold vtx fpv Suggest budget FC can run on inav

do you have advice for a gps module for about 10 ~ 20 dollers?

Also, just out of curiosity, where does the painless360 moniker come from?

Which ones supports SBus?

I still have an old ardupilot pro controller laying around. its a shame that it can't really be useful anymore.

What's the story on the Matek F722 nobody mentions it.

At this 'problematic' time when we cant get out as much, a lot of people are maybe planning builds, some will be thinking of race quads, others (maybe few!)) will be thinking of heavy dslr lift octocopters (I am...) so maybe a follow on video could be how different FC's suit different air-frames and tasks.

what’s your pick for a flight controller for a large quadcopter now?

Can you use a arducopter in a wing?

Is it practical to build your own flight controller ?

Hey I have a qq pro flight controller with me..i want to use it as a stabilizer for my rc wing can u plz help me...

Very nice information .... well detailed... thanks for distributing knowledge and experience ... please share your name in your videos ...

I love apm

Eagle Tree Vector?

What about Kiss?

so the only difference inav and ardupilot is the name