My Great Middlegames of 1987 & 1988 - GM Ben Finegold

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Saint Louis Chess Club

Saint Louis Chess Club

8 жыл бұрын

Grandmaster Ben Finegold travels back to his pre-Grandmaster days in Michigan. These middlegames feature his opponents making strategical and tactical mistakes.
2016.01.05
Benjamin Finegold vs. Gary Kitts, 1987: D97 Gruenfeld, Russian, Alekhine (Hungarian) variation
Finegold vs. Burt Izumikawa, 1987: D53 Queen's Gambit Declined, 4.Bg5 Be7
Fabio La Rota vs. Finegold, 1988: B12 Caro-Kann, advance variation

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@burtizumikawa8692
@burtizumikawa8692 8 жыл бұрын
I'm Burt Izumikawa (2nd game opponent), and I found this hilarious. I was out of my league in that junior championship losing every game but the last one and only making it as an alternate for Jon Litvinchuk. Little did I know that a few participants would go on to be US champions. I only play chess casually now, but have a lot of good memories from that tournament, such as staying with fellow tournament participant Dan Edelman and walking through downtown New York, watching The Untouchables. Ben was hilarious then too. I don't recall the exact lines, but I knew he poked fun at fellow participant Vivek Rao to the tune of Janet Jackson's Nasty, something like "Who that refuting the Sicilian Dragon "Nasty Rao, Nasty Rao".
@tash6484
@tash6484 8 жыл бұрын
+Burt Izumikawa nice XD that was so long ago, i hope you are out of jail now :)
@tastingthunder1237
@tastingthunder1237 6 жыл бұрын
Burt Izumikawa HI Mr izumikawa
@Gilsworth
@Gilsworth 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in, this is a 3 year old comment from the time I respond to it, but I really appreciate your details because they enrichen what is otherwise just pieces on the board. I'm also glad that you enjoyed the video, I can only imagine what it would be like to see one of my games being taught by a GM (even if it is on the losing side). All great games require 2 players, can't have a great victory without someone to take a bite out of a humble pie.
@Petros11888
@Petros11888 7 жыл бұрын
holy shit, i just discovered this guy and he is insanely funny. How do the students not laugh? This is better than stand up comedy . I could watch for hours straight
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 5 жыл бұрын
Old memes. When I was in college around 1980, I laughed my posterior off at SNL. Now I don't even get many of the jokes, as I don't keep up with modern bands, social memes, etc. 4 decades later. Now there's this whole internet thing that lets me easily pursue science, math, chess, MTG, etc. so I have NO desire to be bombarded with ad bombed media.
@shcottam
@shcottam 5 жыл бұрын
You just explained everyones first experience w this dude
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 жыл бұрын
The audience isn't miked, so they'd have to laugh pretty loud for you to hear it.
@MAMP
@MAMP 8 жыл бұрын
2:14 "usually I reserve that for a blitz tournament when I'm rushin' " LOLOLOL X-D
@Dlerma-bq8oh
@Dlerma-bq8oh 7 жыл бұрын
i get it
@doodlejumpmonster
@doodlejumpmonster 6 жыл бұрын
TroniacPlays I'm proud
@aaronmkari
@aaronmkari 8 жыл бұрын
what did i do before ben finegold lectures?
@bigbrother5024
@bigbrother5024 8 жыл бұрын
+Aaron Kari You had a life ? :-p
@user-ml5ls4ld8b
@user-ml5ls4ld8b 6 жыл бұрын
You played F6!
@JasonLee-cy1lz
@JasonLee-cy1lz 5 жыл бұрын
You weren’t a Frenchman
@gregtaylor6146
@gregtaylor6146 5 жыл бұрын
....... you were very suspicious, but didn't know it yet!
@bluemoon4961
@bluemoon4961 5 жыл бұрын
you cried a lot
@mfRamen
@mfRamen 7 жыл бұрын
this dude always cracks me up. I love his lectures
@Dlerma-bq8oh
@Dlerma-bq8oh 7 жыл бұрын
i actually took a screenshot of your nice center in game 1 :D
@Implosion99
@Implosion99 8 жыл бұрын
Love it when Ben talks to the audience at home - it's almost like he's there in the room and can see you. He caught me napping at 11:15 - sorry Ben!
@Socialdogma
@Socialdogma 8 жыл бұрын
Who disliked? Kummer?
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld 8 жыл бұрын
+Socialdogma Terrible.
@possumverde
@possumverde 7 жыл бұрын
0:40 I could've sworn either Alekhine or Tal had already written such a book.
@ganjalfthegreen1574
@ganjalfthegreen1574 8 жыл бұрын
My life wihout Ben's lectures? Terrible
@thrylos32
@thrylos32 Жыл бұрын
Correct!
@tarikhk2
@tarikhk2 Жыл бұрын
The truth hurts.
@RyanC232
@RyanC232 8 жыл бұрын
Best lecturer of 2016!
@marcushernandez7623
@marcushernandez7623 8 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold makes my day
@bierchen71
@bierchen71 8 жыл бұрын
A Ben Finegold lecture where he's explaining why he is the geatestest? Brilliant!
@MsUncleKevin
@MsUncleKevin 8 жыл бұрын
Ben deserves the funniest guy of century award.
@TuhTuhTool
@TuhTuhTool 8 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold, you're the best, man! I live in the Netherlands and I watch a lot of your vids. They're so funny and learnful. Keep it up Ben!
@PerfectSwagHD
@PerfectSwagHD 8 жыл бұрын
more Ben Finegold ... yes!
@BiffBifford
@BiffBifford 4 жыл бұрын
Ben is my favorite GM for character reasons. No one loves Ben more than Ben loves Ben. Not even Ben's wife loves Ben more than Ben loves Ben. But, what makes Ben so great a chess personality is his ability to make light of his play while trash-talking his opponents. I like when he belittles the kids and they don't even know it. God bless you, Ben! You make chess fun!
@Ducky24120
@Ducky24120 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben. I'm glad to see you're still putting out lessons, which are entertaining and informative as a new player. I would love to see your other lessons that you uploaded personally but are no longer available.
@bigbrother5024
@bigbrother5024 8 жыл бұрын
.... As Carlsen commented on his games vs. Anand: You can take the credit for your opponent's mistakes if you pressured/annoyed/exhausted/... him into them.
@MAMP
@MAMP 8 жыл бұрын
This guy is so funny.
@Dlerma-bq8oh
@Dlerma-bq8oh 7 жыл бұрын
i took a picture of your center 8:01
@ChessGM1
@ChessGM1 8 жыл бұрын
I want my child to learn to play chess from Mr. Finegold.
@Mamsecks
@Mamsecks 8 жыл бұрын
i do wonder why a kid knows when Pulp Fiction came out :P Great jokes as always! I love that he talks to us, KZfaq viewers, all the time.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 жыл бұрын
The kid has no idea when _Pulp Fiction_ came out, or even what _Pulp Fiction_ is. :-)
@cwoodside907
@cwoodside907 Жыл бұрын
Found this video searching for middle game guidance and I can say with 100% certainty that I was NOT expecting Ben, a Grandmaster Chess Player apparently(Saltue!!), to throw out some savage quips and shots!! 😂🤙🏻I like your style Ben! You’re a good man!
@chess_is_a_vibe
@chess_is_a_vibe 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Finegold!
@cyxFrag
@cyxFrag 8 жыл бұрын
41 min, SOLID
@nilsp9426
@nilsp9426 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how old those kids are. They seem pretty young to me, where do you get so many young kids willing to attend grandmaster lectures? :)
@ChromaticTempest
@ChromaticTempest 8 жыл бұрын
+Nils Petras The Orphanage is practically giving them away.
@phillycheesetake
@phillycheesetake 8 жыл бұрын
+Nils Petras It seems to be the same kid, with some sort of learning difficulty, who likes to answer every question. Mommy and daddy pay for him to be there, so Ben has to stand there and listen to it.
@blueromeo1974
@blueromeo1974 7 жыл бұрын
next book must have....Drink like Grand Master by GM Ben F Gold
@edwardbottle1018
@edwardbottle1018 8 жыл бұрын
tfw Spencer Finegold went to my high school : o
@seifdawg
@seifdawg 8 жыл бұрын
GM Finegold I like your videos a lot! I'm in St. Louis pretty often and was curious about the club. Do you give lectures for non-members to attend?
@timothyacowin9761
@timothyacowin9761 8 жыл бұрын
I WAS THEIR, I WAS THE GUY TALKING 4:11, i was a little sick though :(
@TheStupidLama
@TheStupidLama 8 жыл бұрын
+just a bush I don't get it^^ nobody's talking except Ben^^
@sooooooooDark
@sooooooooDark 8 жыл бұрын
+Awkward Alan maybe he meant 40:11 someone is talking there idk
@julianproleiko1544
@julianproleiko1544 8 жыл бұрын
+just a bush their? huh xD
@TheStupidLama
@TheStupidLama 8 жыл бұрын
andy quibler Ya I saw the name and kept an eye for for some plant but nothing^^
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 5 жыл бұрын
@@julianproleiko1544 "I was there". Modern education is SO fabulous. I suspect correcting papers isn't done much (especially grammar, spelling, using the correct word, etc. as it triggers students.
@MrHunters101
@MrHunters101 8 жыл бұрын
'I check you, you check me ...' Barney LOL
@OscarGarcia-sw2uo
@OscarGarcia-sw2uo 7 жыл бұрын
24:00 I am analyzing the hole thing with stockfish and at that point it says -19.39 for black
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 5 жыл бұрын
@@damianocarraroli254 Fantastic detailed analysis. /s
@Joslinmeister
@Joslinmeister 8 жыл бұрын
"There's good and there's not good. That's not good." Haha
@ChilledCalm
@ChilledCalm 8 жыл бұрын
30:13 Savage
@TremendousSax
@TremendousSax 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he was digging into Kummer on this one
@janchovlesky5630
@janchovlesky5630 8 жыл бұрын
Deservingly so.
@flpsnk4848
@flpsnk4848 8 жыл бұрын
your right or my right?... all right :D
@TimothyJ0
@TimothyJ0 7 жыл бұрын
where can i see that 1'o clock that he mention
@STLChessClub
@STLChessClub 7 жыл бұрын
You think you want to see it...
@TimothyJ0
@TimothyJ0 7 жыл бұрын
HI!! Chess Club big fan of this guy "Ben Finegold" this guy ... haha so gud. And yea i would like to see that 1'o clock class that he miss so much do upload some vid love to see :D I wonder how hilarious would it be moves like i8 or i5 might exist there :)
@EspaTuLaFielD
@EspaTuLaFielD 8 жыл бұрын
Bxf7 blew my mind
@Accomodare
@Accomodare 8 жыл бұрын
+EspaTuLaFielD c4 blew mine!
@snorribjarnason8408
@snorribjarnason8408 8 жыл бұрын
***** your joke is da bomb
@johntatum1951
@johntatum1951 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, can you tell us how you lost the lower front tooth? I know, it's a terrible question... Terrible!
@mrjohnp555
@mrjohnp555 8 жыл бұрын
I'm always Russian during a blitz tournament, too...
@danielf3129
@danielf3129 8 жыл бұрын
King on e4? Steinitz approves!
@gavincobb5918
@gavincobb5918 3 жыл бұрын
Love Ben's lectures they are so funny. That one kid who kept raising his hand before even thinking and saying "umm umm ummmmm" was annoying as heck though. Kept interrupting my train of thought because half of what he said made no sense. Lost braincells and elo from hearing that kid speak
@fullstackcoder1234
@fullstackcoder1234 8 жыл бұрын
"Ben never move pawns" :D
@markoukin8363
@markoukin8363 8 жыл бұрын
"It's not like knight c5 is mate".It is ...lol
@maxspringfield
@maxspringfield 8 жыл бұрын
Seems like half of all tactics are Bxf7. Look out for Bxf7 on every move and you're doing ok.
@lovedaniel47
@lovedaniel47 5 жыл бұрын
25:40
@henson2k
@henson2k 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant joke @24:10
@MrStarGi
@MrStarGi 8 жыл бұрын
+Nikolay Klimchuk laughed my ass off.
@florianl8273
@florianl8273 8 жыл бұрын
+Nikolay Klimchuk legit the funniest thing of the day
@StratOnFire
@StratOnFire 8 жыл бұрын
+Nikolay Klimchuk 39:04 too.
@emailjwr
@emailjwr 8 жыл бұрын
+Nikolay Klimchuk ha, i take it you don't watch a ton of his lectures, he makes that joke all the time
@johnmcdonough955
@johnmcdonough955 8 ай бұрын
Gramdmaster Ben is unlikely to read this. However this being my first comment I shall proceed. First and foremost I hope I am united in congratulating the grandmaster for his patience with the young. Second, what if at 10:17 Black responds first with capturing the knight on c3 with check. Depending on what White plays Black can capture on e6 with a pawn before moving black Queen to c6 threatening white rook in corner forcing capture by white queen which helps black redevelop the knight to c6 or a loss of tempo because there is not any conclusive mating attack on the Black King even down a piece and necessarily an exchange knight or bishop for rook. White ought have castled. I feel a computer could have eked out a draw and so this is not grandmaster Ben's best play.
@johnmcdonough955
@johnmcdonough955 8 ай бұрын
Black rook to f6 protected by pawn and king if White recaptures rook with queen and though the h file is open an exchange of queens may be forced. Black will come off much worse but it aint over!
@johnmcdonough955
@johnmcdonough955 8 ай бұрын
Ok so I am wrong!
@abeautifulmachine2766
@abeautifulmachine2766 7 жыл бұрын
No love for that 1:00 class lol.
@stanhirt
@stanhirt 7 жыл бұрын
24:07 LOL!
@dneary
@dneary 2 жыл бұрын
Ben, would you say that 17:02 Re8 is a rookie mistake?
@JimLink
@JimLink 8 жыл бұрын
09:20 Is this the "dutch rules" kid?
@STLChessClub
@STLChessClub 8 жыл бұрын
+JimLink Unfortunately, it isn't.
@12345678uygfcxdrtghn
@12345678uygfcxdrtghn 8 жыл бұрын
+Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis I know he s just a kid but he is annoying. He should think and then say the move.
@lemmingbcn
@lemmingbcn 8 жыл бұрын
+vfX3d Grown ups are way more annoying most of the time. So, give him time to be one.
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 3 жыл бұрын
0:45 any tips from Alekhine?
@AssistirTvlive
@AssistirTvlive 5 жыл бұрын
shit so desgusting to hear Ben swallowing the water. Great lecture
@Requiredfields2
@Requiredfields2 7 жыл бұрын
Never move pawns. I'm gonna use that.
@robertomariani626
@robertomariani626 4 жыл бұрын
17:30, ahah, it's mate indeed!
@eruditenaga
@eruditenaga 4 жыл бұрын
24:09 lol 😂😂😂😂😂 Black has already setup three pieces for the next game. 😂😂😂😂
@656520
@656520 7 жыл бұрын
OMG his face expresions when the kid is trying (doesnt he speak english) talk, hahaha
@Zochno
@Zochno 7 жыл бұрын
32:35 What about Pat Buchanan?
@ROGUEJOURNALIST
@ROGUEJOURNALIST 7 жыл бұрын
"Trust me, I knew them as juniors and they should have been in jail then too" I'd like my chess with dark social commentary 😁
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ Жыл бұрын
27:40 Grandmasters argue about whether to play h6 or h5 I think h6 is terrible here and Ben is right to prefer h5 If you go e4 c6 d4 d5 e5 Bf5 h4 h6 g4 Be4 f3 Bh7 e6 Qd6 exf7+ Kxf7 f4 and computer says its OK for black but its tricky to defend and develop, very easy to just get crushed On the other hand if you play h5 you might lose that pawn but you'll have good play for it in the center and the game is much closer to a "normal" Caro Kann On the other hand (lot of hands here) you can just play a6 or Qb6 and respond to g4 with Bd7
@rohandoshi1099
@rohandoshi1099 5 жыл бұрын
O shit that's what mike kummer looks like
@BrezHurley
@BrezHurley 7 жыл бұрын
30:10 lol
@degenerate82
@degenerate82 8 жыл бұрын
"Except with lots of cheating." Classic deadpan.
@steveg908
@steveg908 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for a lecture with a Steve Harvey appearance
@ahrrydepp493
@ahrrydepp493 2 жыл бұрын
32:20 king E2
@TheStupidLama
@TheStupidLama 8 жыл бұрын
so.. Mike's last name is Kummer. Imma be a wiseguy and tell you that that's originally a German name and it means "sorrow". make of it what u will :D btw I like Mike Kummer^^
@ethanb7657
@ethanb7657 8 жыл бұрын
Ben would probably make a joke about himself like: tricky title, I don't have great midgames.
@thomasstokes1949
@thomasstokes1949 6 жыл бұрын
at 40:17 why resign? R×d1+ looks like it has some play
@andresrossi9
@andresrossi9 4 жыл бұрын
"That's the best variation because black has already 3 pieces set up for the next game" hahahahahahahaha
@markhenle3411
@markhenle3411 8 жыл бұрын
Bronxville? Not my Bronxville? I checked. It's true. My hometown hosted the 1986 Junior U.S. Championship. Who knew? Proof: chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/1599356 www.nytimes.com/1986/10/26/arts/chess-against-the-odds.html archives.chicagotribune.com/1986/09/07/page/283/article/chess
@McGravyboat
@McGravyboat 4 жыл бұрын
I vote bxc3
@McGravyboat
@McGravyboat 4 жыл бұрын
I hate it when that happens.
@altgreven9211
@altgreven9211 8 жыл бұрын
32:30 bxc3
@SyncChrome
@SyncChrome 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ahrrydepp493
@ahrrydepp493 2 жыл бұрын
Ha
@ekaterinamacleod8178
@ekaterinamacleod8178 5 жыл бұрын
Bxc3
@jimmyalderson1639
@jimmyalderson1639 6 жыл бұрын
If you reach 3000 do you get to be a grandwizard? Then you always have white and black isn't allowed to pass the 4th rank or to take any of your pieces and his pawns, if they somehow broke the 4th rank rule, can't promote
@smwg4187
@smwg4187 Жыл бұрын
23:16 the sound and sight of him drinking his extra super sugar fat Coke is so disgusting
@newenglandsun4394
@newenglandsun4394 8 жыл бұрын
staged
@root.
@root. 8 жыл бұрын
are we going to listen to political opinions each lecture for the next year? unsubscribed.
@justinduran1
@justinduran1 6 жыл бұрын
Lily Rosa found the Trump supporter.
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