My Hemi Tick is STILL Gone - Better Lubrication Made the Hemi Happy

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Жыл бұрын

The Valvoline Advanced 5W30 Full Synthetic I put in at 4,500ish miles took away ALL of the valvetrain clatter, ticking, and rattling. Might as well go back with the same oil now at 10,500 miles. #ram1500 #trucks

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@4-LOW Жыл бұрын
Original video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j62SqZV4m53FaGQ.html
@davekinninger112
@davekinninger112 4 ай бұрын
Did the same people said I was nuts only 1000 miles on my 2023 Charger Daytona TICK IS GONE no matter when I start it up. Thanks for the video!
@unbearable5883
@unbearable5883 Ай бұрын
I just bought 2024 Ram 1500 Limited. I want to thank you so much for your amazing information sir! I just changed my oil today she only had 850km on her. I put in 5W-30. I spent so much money on the truck, I did not want to take a chance on the "Hemi Tick" Thank you for your video! I truly appreciate it! Salute sir!
@briandaugherty4466
@briandaugherty4466 11 ай бұрын
I have been using Valvoline Advaced synthetic in everything for at least 8 years. Its been great to me and oil analysis come back good
@leecrumble3921
@leecrumble3921 7 күн бұрын
Valvoline advanced is good stuff cheap and has lots of moly in it which quiets these hemis down.
@383dave
@383dave 7 ай бұрын
Been running 5w 30 in a 5.7 since 2013 , no tick . Done 130,000 km. Only problem so far was one exhaust manifold cracked at about 100,000 kms. I run Penrite 10 10ths racing oil , high zinc formula
@AVRJEH
@AVRJEH Ай бұрын
Thanks man for this info! I got a Hemi 5.7 that had the tick and - given my ignorance at the time - I took it into the Jeep, Ram dealership and spend a lot of money. If I had only known…
@JayNoQuarterReagan
@JayNoQuarterReagan 4 ай бұрын
I just hit 10,500 on my 2023 Rebel and I'm switching my oil to this. I hear the ticking so I'll give it a try thanks brother!
@programmerm5907
@programmerm5907 Ай бұрын
Did it work for you?
@patrickholt4140
@patrickholt4140 7 ай бұрын
I was always taught to do first oil change at 500 second at 1500 and then every 3,000 after
@82lowe36id
@82lowe36id 7 ай бұрын
Been running AMSOIL 5W-20 XL since I got my 2015 Ram 1500 5.7L. Now have 100200 miles and no issue. I change oil when computer says it’s time.
@CaptTetanus
@CaptTetanus 5 ай бұрын
I did whatcha said, did my research and found like you said. They lied about their recommendations. I did the 5w30 oil change and now runs like an absolute badass. What I thought was an exhaust leak was actually the infamous Hemi Tick!
@BayouToad
@BayouToad Жыл бұрын
My first oil change on my last two trucks have been at 1500 miles. Wanted to get the break in trash out and etc the Amsoil in.
@danr4197
@danr4197 Жыл бұрын
Smart man, you want to get any metal shavings from machining out ASAP! Will say though, Amsoil is a WASTE of money! It's nothing but a marketing SCAM and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is the BEST, made with NATURAL GAS!
@scottloftin1730
@scottloftin1730 3 ай бұрын
On a new engine I change the oil at 1,000. Having built many engines with my dad growing up. I would never wait anylonger in a new engine. I still change my oil every 3-4k miles. If it looks dirty, I change.
@robertwoods6856
@robertwoods6856 8 ай бұрын
I run 5W30 Full Syn in my 2020 Hemi Rebel. I ignore the computer and change it every 5000 miles. Now at 36,200 miles, no issues. Truck runs great, no hemi tick. Don't think the brand is critical, or even the weight, but the frequency is. All my vehicles, 5000 for oil.
@enfreakez
@enfreakez Ай бұрын
At 36k you better not have any problems, that's still new
@CDNGoMangoSRT
@CDNGoMangoSRT 8 ай бұрын
Yeah man, you can never change the oil too often. These high mileage factory recommended oil changes are ridiculous, completely designed to f'ck your engine.
@DJackson1232
@DJackson1232 9 ай бұрын
a higher capacity oil pump is what you need. that is the COMPLETE fix for hemi engines 2009 and up. oil weight doesnt matter. oil capacity does. theres just not enough pressure to oil the cam and lifters at idle and at low rpm speeds. a higher capacity oil pump increases pressure AND amount of oil to cover the top end. thats the only fix for these engines to eliminate the hemi tick
@BryanEnsign
@BryanEnsign 7 ай бұрын
I put this as a comment as well and saw yours a few minutes after. It's great to see someone else that understand and knows the solutions as well. People still need to tune out the oil pressure check light that comes on but what you and are are saying is not super known yet. 🎉
@petebeat1510
@petebeat1510 4 ай бұрын
Why is the noise not there then? Is that not fixed?
@MadClowdz
@MadClowdz Ай бұрын
@@BryanEnsign Melling high volume pumps come with a factory standard spring accessory that you can install prior to putting in the pump that will keep the code from triggering.
@Metal_EMT
@Metal_EMT 27 күн бұрын
I was told to go higher pressure oil pump, not higher volume. Still reading on it
@scotta9114
@scotta9114 9 ай бұрын
I just swith hed from 5w-20 to 5w-30. Oil pressure got on freeway the same at 51 PSI. MDS wirks just fine. I have some Euro 5w-40 I will try next time. Ours had 59K mikes, much of that Interstates/Freeways. Thanks for the video.
@345airwreck
@345airwreck 2 ай бұрын
Any problems ?
@zonedout5998
@zonedout5998 3 ай бұрын
When I bought my new truck (2019 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4), I changed the oil to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Full Synthetic 5w-20 with a Mobil1 113A oil filter. I change every 5,000-6,000 miles. Truck currently has 120,000 miles and I have never had any ticks or knocking sounds. No noise whatsoever. I also just fill it up with shell gas only. 89 or 91 octane. I’m glad my truck is running smoothly with no noises and issues with the 5w-20. And I’m in a hot climate area, Houston.
@Black_Gun_Control
@Black_Gun_Control 11 ай бұрын
You want your hemi to last you? Don’t wait until 5 thousand miles do it at 3
@joshuajerome2232
@joshuajerome2232 9 ай бұрын
I do my 2020 5.7 with 34k on the clock, every 3k miles😅
@mrmoparrr
@mrmoparrr 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s insane to wait till 5,6K like they are allowing. I use AmsOil Full Synthetic at 3k no matter what’
@AmericanSurvival001
@AmericanSurvival001 7 ай бұрын
Oh that would be false, I have a hemi with 350,000 miles on it and it’s by far the best engine any of my friends have ever witnessed because they all drive Ford and Chevys and none of them have had a vehicle that made it past 250 I change my oil between five and seven when I get around to it Never more than that and if I’m towing heavy with it, I will change it at five but dumping synthetic fluid out at 3000 miles would be stupid you’ve obviously never tested your oil to know what you’re talking about. I’ve tested mine at 7000 miles and it was an excellent condition That could not be said for a turbo charged engine so you understand the difference aspirated engines and it’s not a Ford with a ton of blow by which all Fords have you don’t need to change it at 3000 miles there’s a difference I owned Ford with 75,000 miles with blow by always consuming oil. It never stopped from New once a hemi has broken it’s a 350,000 mile engine at the minimum.
@wasupfool5692
@wasupfool5692 7 ай бұрын
​@@AmericanSurvival001I'm guessing your Hemi is older and does not have MDS
@mrmoparrr
@mrmoparrr 7 ай бұрын
@@AmericanSurvival001 put a Magnet 🧲 up to the oil while its Draining!
@thegunbuilder
@thegunbuilder Жыл бұрын
I run 5w30 synthetic in mine with Lucas pure synthetic in the summer, and 5w20 with Lucas pure synthetic in the winter. No issues, and little to no valvetrain noise.
@aidenrybchuk8098
@aidenrybchuk8098 11 ай бұрын
you know that it doesn't make a difference with that similar of temperature ratings right?
@thegunbuilder
@thegunbuilder 11 ай бұрын
@@aidenrybchuk8098 I see a difference in oil pressure and engine oil temperature compared to 5w20. The oil stays temp stays consistently above 212 degrees, and doesn't fluctuate like the 5w20 does. An oil temp 212+ leads to a longer engine life, and more efficient operation.
@DellCvz
@DellCvz 11 ай бұрын
Lucas Synthetic Additive is a beast
@joeswartz8286
@joeswartz8286 11 ай бұрын
@@DellCvz Is that good or bad? I’ve been warned about using additives. But I’m curious and willing to improve my oil if possible. 👍
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 10 ай бұрын
​@@DellCvzLucas is nothing but a heavy oil , nothing special at all . There isn't even detergents in it which is a bad thing .
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 10 ай бұрын
My Hemi been ticking for 200,000 miles. 10w40 fixed it.
@dnet8180
@dnet8180 8 ай бұрын
Faithfully use amsoil 5w20 and a wix filter (technically20,000 mile oil!) in my 300s awd hemi but I always change at 6000 even though oil looks new and use recommended mid grade gasoline engine is quiet and strong
@jasonmelton8966
@jasonmelton8966 10 ай бұрын
I will tell you the exhaust manifold bolts break happens to all hemis after around 70k to 80k just the 2 rear ones or back of engine replacing the bolts with arp bolts worked great for my truck I did alot of resurch sounds like tick only on start up goes away after it warms up
@billysimmons2432
@billysimmons2432 5 ай бұрын
grab the shield and see if it is loose to find and confirm your bolt failure. Planed my oem manifold at 70k and have had no issue on my 17 ram
@tomkaufman3914
@tomkaufman3914 7 ай бұрын
I have to agree with you buddy,5w-30 will run a hemi with no problem.
@hamms5560
@hamms5560 4 ай бұрын
I have 91k on my hemi and run 5w30 in it for the last 15000 miles. Nice and quiet now. I had a ticking at start up with 5w20. My mileage is the same on the highway I get 21. I live in Minnesota.
@mutsquadsmaster746
@mutsquadsmaster746 7 ай бұрын
My 09 has 303,700 miles on it, always ran 5w20 conventional quaker state in it. Changed the oil religiously at 5000 miles. It does tick on start up but still has power and runs good.
@bumpylump9236
@bumpylump9236 6 ай бұрын
Consistent change is key. It keeps the wear from happening sooner. My thoughts is it will tick at some point no matter what oil we use.
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098
@h.d.mech.mortenson2098 5 ай бұрын
So many don’t understand how important engine oil changes are !! Mechanics do.
@tjn2254
@tjn2254 5 ай бұрын
I get 16,000 mile oil and my truck has no tick at 180,000. Sounds like a watch. Probably better to use hi quality fuel.
@Tngoz
@Tngoz 5 ай бұрын
From all my studying.... Start up tick is normal if your truck sits for day or 2 without starting.
@AG-td4pm
@AG-td4pm 4 ай бұрын
Noise on start up normally means exhaust manifold leak
@flicksifyr6793
@flicksifyr6793 7 ай бұрын
I recommend checking out BND automotive’s “Quantum Blue” oil. The owner brian recommends 7.5w23 for the 5.7 hemi. After putting this stuff in i could notice a huge difference over the 5w20 ive been putting in there forever
@gittyupalice96
@gittyupalice96 11 ай бұрын
For anyone who believes you can't put 30 viscosity oil in these instead of 20 viscosity, what it comes down to is the main engine bearing gaps on the crankshaft, now thinner oils will travel faster especially in cold weather, so a 5w20 will flow to the cam faster than a 5w30 will... However in the case of the 5.7 Hemi engine, the tolerances allow for up to a 15w40 in actuality, if you look at any engine machine shop spec sheets, its fine... race cars run 15W50 btw ( loose is fast ) I was told by an 60 year engine builder once, they run loose tolerances and 50 viscosity oil. (also the w, in 5w30 means winter rating, not weight.. stop saying weight.. The second number is the viscosity of the oil. In general 5w30 for the Hemi, in cold weather 0w20, in extreme heat 10w40. There you go.
@BigHRepair
@BigHRepair 9 ай бұрын
So I agree with you, but the 15 40 would destroy that mds system. If that system is deleted, you'd have no issues
@movingearth3726
@movingearth3726 9 ай бұрын
The only reason 5w20 is recommended is for the mds system your manual even states 5w30 can be used … use you head more than your mouth
@chadjohnson7544
@chadjohnson7544 9 ай бұрын
I have 08 5.7 hemi and switched to 5w30 with 100k no knock. This really does work.
@BigHRepair
@BigHRepair 9 ай бұрын
@@chadjohnson7544 more worried about the lifters. If these didn't come with mds I wouldn't even question it. I do think 5-30 is safe tho. Some years ram says you can run it. I don't think mine tho
@chadjohnson7544
@chadjohnson7544 9 ай бұрын
@secondgensilverado8752 mine says only 5w20 yet 5w20 just doesn't seem to cut it. As soon as I put 5w30 in it runs like a top. Just my experience. I have gen 3 without mds.
@gcovete1642
@gcovete1642 25 күн бұрын
Nice video and you are correct about the oil viscosity. Thank you for sharing this with the masses of untrained customers who believe blindly in the OEM engineers who can only warranty the vehicle for 60k max
@KingFergus
@KingFergus 2 ай бұрын
I bought my truck new in 05, changed the oil with regular oil every 1000 miles until I hit 3000 miles. I then switched to Mobile 1 synthetic. As soon as I switched to Mobile 1 my truck developed the "tick". I ran Mobile one for a few years and then switched to Royal Purple and the tick disappeared. It's expensive but I haven't had any issues since I switched over
@rbarr6
@rbarr6 8 ай бұрын
I have an old Chevy HHR with 200,000 miles that I spend the least that I can maintaining it. The lower-cost 5w30 oils on the shelf seem to be out of stock more than than not, so this is an area that I have come to terms with by spending a bit more on oil. Since it uses a quart of oil every month, I’m not spending $11.99 a quart on Royal Purple.
@danjoe22
@danjoe22 Жыл бұрын
you had the hemi tick on a new vehicle? I have a 2015 Chrysler 300C hemi and the specified oil is 5w20. Not the same as your vehicle but synthetic 5w20 is doing just fine in my car. Glad the 5w30 has worked well for you.
@mattd603
@mattd603 10 ай бұрын
First oil change at 1000 miles max.
@zomgosz1503
@zomgosz1503 9 ай бұрын
I got p0303 code have a slight tick. Ran 5w30 in the summer and check engine light came on at end of September. Switched to 5w20 with some marvel mystery oil and it's quieted down by check engine light still on.
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 3 ай бұрын
Use what is recommended for the engine. I hate when KZfaq people like this spread this BS like putting heavier oil in your engine. You use what is recommended and what the engine was designed for, period.
@cbarrios28
@cbarrios28 Жыл бұрын
Luke warm start you hear a little bit at start and then it quiets down right away.
@badlilstang
@badlilstang 7 ай бұрын
Redline 5w/30 has been popular because of all the Moly it has in it.
@anthonyostir1748
@anthonyostir1748 6 ай бұрын
Valvoline advance full synthetic, especially full synthetic high mileage has a lot. Very good oil for a great price. Very underrated.
@Chiefgeargrinder
@Chiefgeargrinder 5 ай бұрын
Yeah Virgin sample I tested was 530 ppm moly.
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
Whch there is broad knowledge that Moly is terrible for needle bearings. Gues what fails on lifters of Hemis? Needle bearings. Keep playing around listening to "forum engineers" or this guy. He makes stuff up as he goes. Going from 20w to 30w will not cahnge a thing with those lifters.
@Chiefgeargrinder
@Chiefgeargrinder 4 ай бұрын
@Dusdaddy I don't see how Moly would cause needle bearing failures but okay then use diesel oil.
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
@@Chiefgeargrinder Hey, I just follow the engineers. You know, the ones who built it? Not some random stranger on a forum. No one can produce anything concrete to support the change from the manual other than their own anecdotal evidence.
@justingonzalez12391
@justingonzalez12391 9 ай бұрын
I can definitely attest to what he’s saying. Had the typical lifter tick and cam lobe deterioration on my ‘12 1500. After swapping in a new cam, lifters, etc. I switched over to 5w30 and have never looked back. Lifter tick came in at around 85k miles and had complete engine failure due to the cam wearing down at around 88k. Needless to say a full rebuild later and 5w30 in the oil pan the truck is about to hit 200k strong. Make the switch to 5w30 and you will have a truck for decades to come
@paramd1129
@paramd1129 9 ай бұрын
I have the ‘09 Ram 1500 same Gen III hemi as your ‘12 Ram. Couple people said do 5w30, some said don’t it’ll screw MDS. I have a slight lifter tick, OG motor 140k miles. How long you run 5w30?
@salsal88
@salsal88 8 ай бұрын
What oil filter do you recommend?
@hamms5560
@hamms5560 4 ай бұрын
@@paramd1129it doesn’t mess with mds. I get the same mileage and mine kicks in the same. 5w30 made me like this engine again. I don’t like a noisy engine. It is so smooth and quiet now. You will not regret it.
@James-rk6go
@James-rk6go 3 ай бұрын
Lmao yep sounds like a typical Hemi 🗑
@Kwhopperfan
@Kwhopperfan 4 ай бұрын
Don’t know how algorithms brought me here but I’m enjoying the comments. With a little research and oil sampling anyone can find out how long you can run your oil. This isn’t the 60’s anymore. With oils being designed to match extended service drain intervals, I have no idea how people are discussing 2 and 3 thousand mile oil changes, BUT thankfully in America everyone can do whatever they want.
@clintonbays3614
@clintonbays3614 Жыл бұрын
Hemi tick. There is a cast webbing under the cam, that runs the full length of the cam. Idle is what kills the lifter. Throws oil on the web and not the cam. Co-worker ran rotella 15w40 for over 300,000 on his 5.7l hemi ram. Pulled motor for different reason. I believe he said it still had the Hash marks on cylinder wals, clean cam. And No tick.
@edjackson4389
@edjackson4389 8 ай бұрын
The modern hemis are not splash lubricated at the cam. Oil flows directly to the cam and lifters. I do agree that extended idle times are bad for them, because of the low oil pressure that occurs at full operating temps with worn out thin 5w20 oil. How would the MDS lifters operate just on splash without direct oil pressure. Don't go past 5k miles with oil changes, run 5w30, and keep idle times to a minimum (especially in the summer) and a stock 5.7 hemi wil run forever.
@James-rk6go
@James-rk6go 3 ай бұрын
​​@@edjackson4389 😂 DON'T IDLE your precious 'lil fragile Hemi too long now boy! 🫵🤠 Lolol RAM JUUUNK
@edjackson4389
@edjackson4389 3 ай бұрын
@@James-rk6go I usually don't have to. Your mom is able to get me off before lifter damage occurs. I drive away, and she's on to the next RAMMING 😂
@charleskitchenman2915
@charleskitchenman2915 11 ай бұрын
I run 5w30 ultra platinum in my hemi bighorn ........ quiet and smooth ....... mobil1 113a filter best oil pressure
@inboundbryguy
@inboundbryguy 4 ай бұрын
What climate are you living in? Im up north. Thinking of switching to 5w30
@charleskitchenman2915
@charleskitchenman2915 3 ай бұрын
Live in nj
@migueltron24
@migueltron24 10 ай бұрын
I dont have a truck, but have a 2021 dodge durango 5.7 and i got it brand new, and have done all my oils at 4500 times and i always use penzoil full synthetic 5w-20 what the engine says. And have never had an issue with hemi tick,but i put just premium fuel to tho
@stevewarfel5788
@stevewarfel5788 Ай бұрын
All that does is waste money. Higher octane resists detonation from high compression. That is all. Nothing more.
@daavid1974
@daavid1974 11 ай бұрын
i also change my oil with 5w30 synthetic oil no more tick a tick even after a week of using my RAM
@GeorgeDelgado-kj8rh
@GeorgeDelgado-kj8rh 5 ай бұрын
How many miles
@daavid1974
@daavid1974 5 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeDelgado-kj8rh 109000 miles
@The3Idoitsplus1
@The3Idoitsplus1 3 ай бұрын
I Have been using 5W-40 in my Ram1500 hemi for a year now. I commute 1 hout each day. Its keeps it quiet and purs.
@shook7674
@shook7674 Ай бұрын
We use 0w-40 on both our 6.4s and we have no issues. One has 50k miles and the other has 127k.
@Matp345
@Matp345 6 ай бұрын
That water oil is the EPA being dictators. I switched to 0w40 srt Pennzoil and disabled that MDS trash. I gained 2mpg and engine is quite. I do my changes every 3k.
@94FIVEPOINTOHSTANG
@94FIVEPOINTOHSTANG 7 ай бұрын
Mds first came in 2005 300c for sure and grand cherokee i think(?), FYI, 2009 is when they added in Variable valve timing. But completely agree 5w-30 penzoil ultra platnium and some Motorkote(look it up project farm motorkote here on youtube) what i use in wife durango. Her bein first responder the motorkote should help protect from developing piston slap on cold emergency starts, very impressed with motorkote protection
@BryanEnsign
@BryanEnsign 7 ай бұрын
The hemi tick is due to lack of lubrication and can be solved by putting the hellcat oil pump on your truck instead of using the stock one. That gives an extra 2 to 3 lb of pressure to push that oil up where it needs to go. Then you would tune out the notification on your dashboard saying the pressure is different from the check engine light and you will not have that issue anymore. You should not change the viscosity of the oil in your truck to try to solve this. I'm glad it's working for now but that's not the best way to take care of the problem.
@ZachTheRipper716
@ZachTheRipper716 7 ай бұрын
A better pump will definitely contribute to solving the issue, however the hellcat pump puts out way more psi than just a few. Isnt a direct fit either. Just buy a Melling and you'll be better off.
@ryanhemming9546
@ryanhemming9546 8 ай бұрын
How about switching the oil pump out to one with higher flow? Changing oil thickness may make the oil pump work harder or possibly restrict the flow.
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 7 ай бұрын
Techs are telling people to do that use the Hellcat pump is the ACTUAL fix, and if you want to retain MDS you use the non hellcat spring to make your ecu happy...the main issue is idle oil pressure and flow....hellcat pumps solve this because they are high pressure and use the SAME lifter, don't see this failure at remotely the rate in fact I haven't met anyone with the hellcat tick and it uses the same lifter ( the non mds ones )
@patrickholt4140
@patrickholt4140 7 ай бұрын
I would tend to believe that as long as the low number matches the top number wouldn’t matter that much
@jrodz808
@jrodz808 Жыл бұрын
What octane fuel you put in it?
@vanwinkledan74
@vanwinkledan74 Жыл бұрын
Always used lucas in mine cummins aswell
@wanted-33
@wanted-33 Жыл бұрын
Mine didn't start that valve train ticking at cold start until I had the second oil change (it stops quickly though). It's not the Hemi Tick, its from the oil draining back into the pan leaving the valves/lifters unprotected). I don't drive my truck everyday. It shouldn't do that, but of course the dealer says it's normal. I just had the oil changed at 10K miles. (I change every 5K). Next oil change (they are free at my dealer) I'm gonna have them put the 5/30 in to see if that takes care of the problem. Thanks for the tip.
@canadianguitar-garrettont7368
@canadianguitar-garrettont7368 3 ай бұрын
I’ve run full synthetic in my 2022 Durango since day 1
@LordBritishTTV
@LordBritishTTV 6 ай бұрын
Be warned, the wrong oil viscosity can cause VVT issues and throw engine codes, and when that happens, the computer goes into “limp home” mode with no power until you replace the oil with the proper weight and reset the code. The code will fire on the second ignition cycle like clockwork.
@bears893
@bears893 7 ай бұрын
My hemi has 170k+ with mds deactivated, been running royal purple since 80k, change every 3000 to 3500 or so w/new filter,empty catch can, and off we go.
@tyrrellroach5872
@tyrrellroach5872 10 ай бұрын
So if you were using 0w-20 in your hemi you were using too light a weight oil. In both of the 2020 truck that I have with the 6.4 it should be 0w-40 which is not easy to find and few places actually sell it. It’s actually an oil used in light duty diesels. That last number is important
@moonwalker8172
@moonwalker8172 7 ай бұрын
Oil filter, oil filter, oil filter. The OEM Mopar filters cause a tick on startup. 5w30 isn’t the fix.
@scotta9114
@scotta9114 9 ай бұрын
What about using good old 10w-30. I use that in all my vehicles as our winters aren't that cold.
@DalesDeadBug
@DalesDeadBug 5 ай бұрын
I still use the PUP 5w20 and added Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant to my gas, got rid of the tick.. for a couple weeks. Will give this 5w30 a go once I run out of the 5w20 I have.
@stevewarfel5788
@stevewarfel5788 Ай бұрын
Nope!
@DalesDeadBug
@DalesDeadBug Ай бұрын
@@stevewarfel5788yeah it came back.. oh well.
@stevewarfel5788
@stevewarfel5788 Ай бұрын
@@DalesDeadBug It is the built in failure so we can't have long lasting anything. They can't put themselves out of business.
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 7 ай бұрын
It's generally an additive package vs thicker TBN to make a 5w ( both are 5 not talking about an insane Ow which the scat pack specifies or void of warranty 0w-40 which is HARD to source and in both cases you also have to male sure they are Mopar spec oil for warranty retention ask me how I know )...nothing wrong with running a 5w30 go have better protection when at operating temp but cold starts would sound similar..I run 5w-30 in my 21 Limited Ram as well.... I don't think you should tell people that is what cured your truck it was on your first oil change and that along could have settled it down regardless of viscosity ( though no harm in running 5w-30)... Also as you stated several years of owners manuals had the owner running which oils since 2009, well those engines ticked and failed as well even when running THAT years recommendation lifter failure isn't new to this engine at all....its a design flaw which is why ALL the Mopar tech say one of the huge variables is idle time on engine not viscosity ran... Also in my research most lifters fail if they are gonna from 45k-75k you gonna need about 120k to feel safe ( seems like if they make it 100k they make it 200k lol damn)... There WAS a major change to this engine since 2009, iirc it was 2017 they went to a lifter with a much larger captured needle bearing on the wheel.... Lots of assumptions and misinformation, but imho your dead right they push 0w and 5w20 for CAFE compliance, where these big truck engines often hauling loads could benefit from a 5w30 and later a 5w40 ( same cold performance more film strength when warm )... However let's not let dodge of the hook for their design flaw here, my wife's ride turbo gas engine is specced at 0w20 running much warmer oil temps than my Ram down the road, with a much more complex system and Jesus she extends her oil change ( I've tried everything down to taking it myself ), a few weeks ago I was Laying under her ride in a cold and hot start scenario....so quite so tight that engine has another 100k in it easy..... Sad thing is dodge bolts this engine real tight, you add a hellcat oil pump and no more lifter issues, it doesn't have enough oil pressure at idle ( which raising viscosity can help with) for the way the black and MDS is designed... These engines would go 300k if not for the valve train....sad...but even at that if dodge stood behind them could give em a pass for it.... I know a guy personally that trucks to dodge dealerships there are piles of cams, lifters and heads hauled off...piles and piles of lifter cam failures... Best of luck to everyone and myself....lol
@tonytigere5684
@tonytigere5684 6 ай бұрын
Great video my friend. I have 24 k miles on my 2020 2500hd starting to tick. You think itl work switching to 05/30 now or to late for me? Will it revoke my power train warranty? I’m pist because our jeep had that bs that Cody me $3500 just fir one side of the engine. I’m actually going to a Chevy dealership today to check them out. No knob for gears no cylinder deactivation is sounding perty good to me. I purchased both new and there’s no way I’m dealing with that famous Fiat ticking again. All those years you’d think fiat would’ve fixed the ticking issue a long time ago but No they keep building them the same exact way knowing it will tick at some point. Mostly prematurely.
@brucedale4465
@brucedale4465 Ай бұрын
Yah stellantis is really getting junky I’ll never buy one!
@-a-strikelures1212
@-a-strikelures1212 7 ай бұрын
I live in Northern Colorado. Should I use a thinner oil in the winter?
@timbrown8038
@timbrown8038 9 ай бұрын
I never heard my hemi tick. Just started running bad. Very little power. Lifter collapsed chewed up camshaft. 2012 Dodge Ram 96k. Purchased new oil changes every 3k. Never abused. Daily driver mostly highway. I believe that the MDS did this to my engine. I had it deleted. Full time 8 now.
@BigHRepair
@BigHRepair 9 ай бұрын
Keep idle down too, that's an issue people don't realize with these.
@getinthespace7715
@getinthespace7715 9 ай бұрын
Bought a 2021 Ram 1500 for my wife with 30k miles on it. It's going to Idle ALOT. I'm going to replace the oil pump with a hellcat pump. Gives higher volume and higher pressure at Idle.
@bretparisian697
@bretparisian697 8 ай бұрын
Let us know how that works
@luhms01
@luhms01 4 ай бұрын
Higher oil pressure will cause a check engine light. Run the hellcat pump with the factory Ram 1500 spring, then you get higher volume but same OEM pressure, which means no CEL
@luhms01
@luhms01 4 ай бұрын
Try Penzoil Ultra Platinum, 137k on mine….no tick
@jeffirish7236
@jeffirish7236 4 ай бұрын
35k on my 2020 think it’s safe to switch over to 5w30? Mainly used for getting groceries.
@thomasedmonds.mopar32
@thomasedmonds.mopar32 5 ай бұрын
Is your truck hemi truck still gone I’ve been looking at a 2015 6.4 hemi truck that is low miles 28,000 miles on it sounds good no ticks on it but saw on the engine was recommending from factory 0w-40 so is that oil to thin
@kendavis1198
@kendavis1198 Жыл бұрын
5K When you DUMP your Oil, No Further. 7K ain't bad but 5K no Matter who's OIL! I can recommend Schaeffers 5W30 Series 9000, Or AMSOIL 5W30 Signature Series. Give it a Try and see if ya Like it. It's a Bit more $$, I was able to get it at $10.00 Per Quart,(Schaeffers), from a Dealer in Town. See what ya think if ya Try it in the future? AMSOIL is Very Costly Like $15.00 PER QUART unless you sign up as a Preferred Customer, But you Still have to Pay Shipping on the AMSOIL...
@fsb_-bf3th
@fsb_-bf3th Жыл бұрын
Signature series is good for 25k. And it will be good all the way to the end because it’s actually 100% synthetic unlike the lie of “full synthetic”
@kendavis1198
@kendavis1198 Жыл бұрын
@@fsb_-bf3th 25K Is Just too Far fsb. I've done it (but you forgot to mention) you have to Change the Filter, (Must be an AMSOIL FILTER Also) to be able to go the 25K Under Amsoil's rules/guarantee and TOP OFF the Oil with the same AMSOIL used to go the 25K Distance. Again, I've done like Three times since I became a Dealer in 1997. I do NOT Recommend it to Anyone, even my customers. Sorry fsb, 25K is Just too far on Anyone's Oil, Synthetic Or Full Synthetic, Or Liquid GOLD.
@robertdumais4428
@robertdumais4428 7 ай бұрын
My 2022 ram 2500 6.4L calls for 0w-40. If your theory is correct why not use 5w-40?
@CaptTetanus
@CaptTetanus 5 ай бұрын
And the argument over prolonged idle times. So also when I made the switch, I was running mid to high 20s psi at 600rpm. Now it runs religiously at 41psi at 600rpm. So it’s getting very liberal amounts of oil at all times! Extremely happy I made the switch!
@stevewarfel5788
@stevewarfel5788 Ай бұрын
Pressure does not indicate flow.
@billhamilton7524
@billhamilton7524 26 күн бұрын
Just bought a new challenger 5.7, its had a very mild tick from day one ,very concerning ,the filler cap calls out for 0-20 then I see older 5.7 same engine calling for 5-20,whats up with that right ? I just did the oil change and put in 0-20 , but im dumping it and going thicker ,,my brothers a mechanic and when I told him the weight he said the same thing ,,for gas mileage ,go thicker Thanks for sharing
@richardthayer5907
@richardthayer5907 18 күн бұрын
very cool
@earlkozak6538
@earlkozak6538 8 ай бұрын
Have owned a 2012 1500 5.7 Hemi since new. Have stuck with a quality 5W20 full synthetic. Truck runs very nicely! I have had to fix broken exhaust manifold studs. That can really sound like the Hemi tick!
@skruface
@skruface 7 ай бұрын
Switching to a Melling high-volume oil pump (20% more flow than a stock MOPAR pump) is a huge improvement in lubrication as well. Most hemi lifters that fail are due to underlubrication during long idle periods - most of these engines that fail are in trucks that idle for long hours (eg: police trucks).
@ridingstuffed
@ridingstuffed 6 ай бұрын
13 mpg, my guy how you driving that thing? I get 17-18 mpg with 1,000 lbs in the back daily
@JoseRodriguez-do8rv
@JoseRodriguez-do8rv 5 ай бұрын
First oil change at 500 miles ,2nd at 1000,third at 1500. After that every 2000. Premiun fuel always. People I know always wonder what I do that keep my cars running trouble free for so long .I just told you. My 2020 Ram with the Pentastar V6 runs and sounds great with Pennzoil 5W30. 23 MPG average.
@BBD40
@BBD40 2 ай бұрын
My last 3 trucks were Ram/Hemi. I had the Hemi tick on all. After switching to 5w30 about a year ago the Hemi tick is gone!
@greendrm4569
@greendrm4569 11 ай бұрын
If its a lifter tick on a new engine thats normal. The hemi is very loud, and it takes a few mds cycles for the mds lifters to be pushed in and out. It’ll be noisy for a but
@BigHRepair
@BigHRepair 9 ай бұрын
Your damn right it's loud 😂 I've never heard injectors so loud before
@user-dh8wr3mi8p
@user-dh8wr3mi8p 8 күн бұрын
I would like to see you make a video cutting open the oil filter on the 7,000 mile oil change to see how the filter media performed… I have a 5.7L Ram and the oil filter is not much bigger than what is on my two cylinder john deere riding mower… I run my oil changes out to 3,000 miles and I am skeptical that this small filter will go much past 3,000 miles without some oil bypassing and running unfiltered oil directly to the main bearings… And yes, I have tried putting 3 different bigger oil filters on my truck, but the steering aluminum housing is directly below the oil filter and they cannot be installed in the factory position… And yes, I could put a remote oil filter kit on the truck, but I don’t want to at this time.
@johngarner9929
@johngarner9929 8 ай бұрын
It did not cure mine - two lifters failed due to insufficient lubrication while idling for extended periods of time. Ran 5w30 from the start.
@neldog510
@neldog510 2 ай бұрын
How is your motor now? I know this is a old video but I had to ask.👍🏽
@benoitblanchette9460
@benoitblanchette9460 Жыл бұрын
Well I have a truck with 300,000 kms and it had the hemi tick and when I changed to 5w30 the tick disappeared immediately.
@mikepower7781
@mikepower7781 5 ай бұрын
Warmed up pretty fast from sitting over night...😂
@Iwillnotbepushed
@Iwillnotbepushed 2 ай бұрын
The main problem with these Hemi’s is the splash oil system for the cam. Those head ports are horizontal not vertical which of course lets oil flow down faster than horizontal. Here is what I’ve learned tonight and in the last couple of days about these Hemi’s, especially the 6.4. 1. Splash oiling is a big problem at idle especially. 2. I’m changing to 5W-30 full synthetic. 3. I’m going to start putting a zinc additive in the oil. I’ll deal with the Catalytic Converter if needed later. 4. MDS we get turned off every time I drive the truck. It’s just a matter of mashing a button. 5. I am also thinking about adding Lucas oil stabilizer. I heard BG makes a good additive too.
@michaelbartley7658
@michaelbartley7658 Жыл бұрын
Ive had my Laramie for 4 months now im assuming this noise im hearing thats keeping them worried is what im assuming is the fuel injectors it sounds like yours also makes the ticking noise are these normal to be ticking?
@BigHRepair
@BigHRepair 9 ай бұрын
Injectors are loud on these engines. That's normal. Just do some more research and confirm you don't have a manifold tick or the unfortunate lifter tick.
@rag5283
@rag5283 Ай бұрын
The tick will typically not show up that early. The oil getting to the top of the engine is completely connected to engine rpm.Too low and the oil doesn't lubricate enough. Idling is the killer. Above 1,500 rpm the oil will be sufficient. I will use my gear shift option on my transmission if it has been at too low rpm for any long period.
@user-ib4bl7jd8k
@user-ib4bl7jd8k 7 ай бұрын
I watched both videos. I drive a f 150 5.0 engine. I have the same sounds coming from my engine also. I hate it so much that i am also trying 5w30. My truck says to use 5w20, Forget about it. Like i heard , it should nt hurt it . If it dose nt, I will change it Thanks for the info.
@blondebimbomarkus
@blondebimbomarkus 6 ай бұрын
I use only 0W40 or 5W40 in all of my vehicles. 5k or earlier oil changes. 1st oil change within 500 miles.
@kacesmithhart5005
@kacesmithhart5005 9 ай бұрын
I also switched to 5w30 and went to a 180 thermostat and removed active grill shutter b.s. truck runs 185 to 190 instead of 210 to 220. 90k miles and still quite. Truck picked up .5 mpg with mds and active grill shutter disabled. Big fail mopar.
@williamhopson4242
@williamhopson4242 5 ай бұрын
What would be your opinion on changing to 5w30 on a ram with 120k miles but i don't not have hemi tick..
@ortiz12986
@ortiz12986 11 ай бұрын
Long story short abolish the epa
@rayvarnson8976
@rayvarnson8976 8 ай бұрын
Why wait so long between oil changes, my 2014 chrysler 300c 5.7 gets oil changed every 4,000, runs sweet 5w30.
@abutler0311
@abutler0311 Жыл бұрын
Amsoil 5w30 Signature Series 100% synthetic oil is what I use in mine!
@tonysteele3805
@tonysteele3805 3 ай бұрын
If you want even better oil, get the ACEA C3 euro spec oils that have HTHS of 3.5 or greater. Mobil 1 ESP 0W30 is a great example.
@oliverramclam6009
@oliverramclam6009 Жыл бұрын
Run Triax they’ve been great
@scottloftin1730
@scottloftin1730 3 ай бұрын
The tick can also be caused by a broken exhaust manifold bolt due to a warped manifold.
@movingearth3726
@movingearth3726 9 ай бұрын
And the tapping is from hydraulic lifters having leak down yes it still sucks but no it’s not tearing up the motor … mine just had its first time doing it at 105,000 miles no big deal Lucas every two oil changes is what I use and I have had four hemis with over 300,000 miles and I actually still have two motor in different cars still running strong and mind you they get the piss beat out of them fully tuned and all
@psholmes717
@psholmes717 Ай бұрын
My 2022 Ram 2500 6.4 specifies 0w-40 in the manual & on the oil cap. I only hear a “tic” for 30 seconds upon startup but the manual specifically states this particular “tic” is completely normal (and it is). The question is, is 0W-40 sufficient? I’d have to imagine it is. At most maybe 5w-40 but not real reason not to trust 0W-40 at the moment.
@Highspdlowdrag
@Highspdlowdrag Ай бұрын
Engine oil isint the only thing Ran has changed. I own a 12 big horn, they have changed the diff fluids twice from the original.
@chadd587
@chadd587 8 ай бұрын
Always use quality oil, like Amsoil. The other is don't let a hemi sit idling. The camshaft is a long way from the crank throws and doesn't get properly oiled. This is specific to the hemi head design as the pushrods are at an extreme angle to the rockers and to offset this they simply raised the cam within the block, which caused low rpm oiling problems. Probably why older oil is less capable of reaching this point and properly oiling when it does than fresh oil. You don't have to change every 3k miles. Just buy the best oil available.
@mypronouniswtf5559
@mypronouniswtf5559 8 ай бұрын
It doesnt rely on splash,it has pressurized oil system and it has oil passages/gallery above the crankshaft that keep lifters,cam etc oiled all the time.Look at the block! Funny the 2003-2008 Hemi is designed the same and does not have the issue the Eagle Head Hemi does thats the 2009-current Hemi.
@chadd587
@chadd587 8 ай бұрын
@@mypronouniswtf5559 I did look at the block. You think I just made it up?
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 7 ай бұрын
Yea that's why it needs more idle pressure from the hellcat pump which solves this issue...and by default techs agree the number 1 variable is idle percentage SO that does indicate a design flaw...ug
@mikeschlup5279
@mikeschlup5279 7 ай бұрын
Redline oil works great for this engine. .
@selfcarefordudes
@selfcarefordudes 6 ай бұрын
We let our Hemi idle all the time, 200k miles and it runs great.
@EJ68987
@EJ68987 8 ай бұрын
Do you use 89 octane? I wonder why people use 87 octane from forums I've read. I'm going to 5w-30 too then in my 2022 Ram 3.6L pentastar instead of 0w-20 water stuff!!! I didn't get the hemi due to hemi tick, manifold studs breaking, poor mpg, and cylinder deactivation. My v6 is paired with a pedal commander city +3 setting so its a totally different truck. I purchased this after my 2002 saturn sc2 died after having it for 19 years. I went to school for automotive, diesel, and aircraft so I never go to the dealer bc they do more damage than fix, and scratch up the paint. When I first got my Ram I had to adjust the tierod bc the steering wheel was crooked a hair off. I aslo change the cabin airfilter regularly bc its a bad design, I put a borescope camera up inside the heater core box and it was really dirty, cleaned with lysol and water. The brakes squeaked, was bone dry from factory, so I put CRC disk caliper brake grease on the pad ears and metal shims... problem fixed! Only 6,500 miles on it and I had the cold weather belt squeal since day one... changed tensioner, gates belt and today the idler pulley under the motor generator unit, no squeal but will wait for a cold snap for verification. I didn't purchase any extra warranty and got invoice pricing with rebates, researching for two years before purchasing my first and last new vehicle. I rotate my vehicle's and Saturn is my favorite one out of them its bulletproof, I like older vehicles more than this new technology stuff. I have halogen front lights, swapped them out with night edition and for the rear purched led taillights programmed with alfa obd, also put on a front bumper cover on it to protect the cheap fragile paint. Led headlights assemblies are really expensive if they go bad they may need to be programmed; no thanks, see it all the time on the road. My other vehicles include my 1997 Saturn sc2 , 96,000 miles, 2011 Toyota Sienna 131,000 miles, to 1997 eclipse's gst modified 300-330hp 131,000 miles and 1998 spyder convertible 38,000 miles and three motorcycles 2002 R6, 2002 yzf600, and 2003 1100 honda shadow spirit all carburetorated. My vehicles will out live me. I never get rid of them unless they die or can't be saved. Post in thread '2022 Ram paint chipping and peeling' 5thgenrams.com/community/threads/2022-ram-paint-chipping-and-peeling.51295/post-739266
@nickaquista7620
@nickaquista7620 11 ай бұрын
I have a ram 1500 2014 with 170k I bought it used. I’m assuming it had 5w20 in it it’s whole life. Would 5w40 be ok? Or just stick with 5w30?
@jeeshh6638
@jeeshh6638 10 ай бұрын
5w40 is fine
@gabrielmovers8689
@gabrielmovers8689 8 ай бұрын
Great video I got a 2222 Hemi 2500 Ram which oil should I use I've been using 5w40 instead of the 0w40
@paul340mopar
@paul340mopar 7 ай бұрын
Are you from the Future?😀
@ihd-3603
@ihd-3603 7 ай бұрын
Good to know they’re still making the Hemi in the 23rd century. 😂
@johnparker1153
@johnparker1153 11 ай бұрын
My 2017 Ram 1500 had 70,000 miles when I purchased it. It had a slight ticking noise on a cold start, then noise stopped after 30 seconds. I have now got 145,000 miles and same ticking noise only on a cold start. Is this an oil problem? Should I use 5W30?
@jasonmelton8966
@jasonmelton8966 10 ай бұрын
Exhaust bolts are broke both sides at rear very common issue put a set of short headers on it with arp bolts issue w9nt come back
@michaelhillard4158
@michaelhillard4158 9 ай бұрын
​@@jasonmelton8966same here. I hear the exhaust tick at startup only & then the sound goes away in one minute after the exhaust manifolds warm up. In my case, its a broken exhaust manifold bolt.
@studioxps72
@studioxps72 8 ай бұрын
I switched my manifolds for BD Diesel upgrade.
@willmorton6800
@willmorton6800 7 ай бұрын
But won't they void your warranty for not using specified oil?
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