I really hope Age of Sigmar gets the Combat Patrol treatment. I love the idea of "buy a box and go" vs list building for small quick games.

A video for newbies on how to get into wargaming and alternative systems to the Leviathan in the house would be much appreciated. 160 USD go a long way in certain game systems. No need to drop them on just a handful of minis.

I think this was a very good, fair take, thanks! I'm especially appreciative you pointed out the three "Lost Patrols" and I do think it would be very good of them to put out lists for them. Especially the Space Marine Phobos box would be fun, great at getting to objectives, killing things not so much.

In all seriousness, I dont know why your day was so hard, but here's an internet hug in the hopes it helps you feel better.

Bricky had a good video on this the other day, its a classic 80/20 issue - 80% of the player base this game will suit very well, and if the intent was faster, fun and more accessible. The 20% are typically competitive players, who have some legitimate concerns with the rules/lists - the issue is they are also the most vocal online, and wont speak to the experience of all the players. Hopefully GW is doing some more sampling of sentiment to get less vocal opinions. For the mission release delay, very comvinced that was the engagement strategy to keep the release 'window' open for longer by having a longer publishing cycle to keep blogs/videos/tweets talking about releases over a longer time period, as this is 'the farm' for GW for the next few years.

(Raises hand) Yes that was me, I went out and bought a Space Marines Combat Patrol box from my flgs and started to build them. And like you said to only find out shortly after building that they don't get free rules. As someone who has been looking for a way to get into 40k I was so excited about this, and now I feel burned. Would it have been that hard to announce which boxes were getting free rules???? A box here in Canada costs $190 + taxes.

Combat patrol is for people like me who have never played before and don’t need to worry about every option under the Sun. This give me the ability to focus on the rules and learn the game FIRST without having to worry about lost building or war gear options

You should make a video every month about getting into war gaming. There are endless 'WARHAMMER alternatives'. I built an SOB Combat Patrol, and want to build my collection and paint for this Edition. Great news about the NECRON COMBAT PATROL! I can start playing, as I have those models battle ready! I would be willing to buy a mission/more army lists Book for Combat Patrol.

"I'm a conspiracy theorist sometimes." *Creates the game Majestic 13 ... Checks out.

There is actually a big advantage to not being able to change list in Combat patrol, In Magic the Gathering preconstructed decks for beginners include some bad cards to help new players identify bad cards so they can build better decks in the future. I would think that combat patrol is designed in a similar way.

500point boarding patrols are a fun follow up to combat patrol, But it has list building. And love that killteam terrain

would ADORE a vid on getting into wargaming outside of Warhammer, i try to get my friends into models and painting but im the wierd one who likes painting most so a primer on how to get into the other part of the hobby would be great!

I would like to know what you think the best way to get into war gaming is! Also, combat patrol got me interested in Warhammer 40k again. I bought a bunch of models but having to put together 2k points is intimidating. I'm not ready to play huge games so this is perfect for me!

I am teacher and professional public speaker and there are plenty of days where "things just don't go well." Thank you for pushing through, anyway. Keep in mind that your listeners/viewers like YOU because of YOU. So lighting and sound issues are very secondary. We really appreciate your videos and this one was no exception. Keep it up, Battle Brother. Yes....Blood Angels....Oh yeah.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts Uncle Atom. I hope your day/week improves. For me, I'm planning to play Necrons and CSM in combat patrol. Im not going to buy either box though since I've already got the models to make up each of them.

Sorry to hear you had a challenging day dude. I hope that got easier. A video on the best way to get into war gaming would be great. Also, it has been very interesting to see your journey over the last few years. Thanks for sharing that. Also, also, happy birthday (next week).

Uncle Atom, your opinion will ALWAYS matter to me, and the vast majority of folks who watch your videos. Even though you'd had a rotten day, you still managed to make a video that was both interesting and engaging. Whatever you decide to talk about in your videos is fine by me: I'll gladly watch/listen to them all!

Great points all round. I'm loving the fact that if I want to try out a 40K army for minimal cost / effort Combat Patrol has that covered. Also I only get to play week nights so the fact I can fit in a few games of this is also a bonus. All this with free rules and data sheets, whats not to like. I'll go one further and say it would be great to have them included in the box with even some options to expand the box to 1000+ points for new players. Hope the rest of your day went better ;).

It would be great to have Rules for the old Necron Combat Patrol, but i think the problem is just that the Flyer wouldnt really work for the combat patrol mode

Yes, would very much like a video about entering the hobby. I found the hobby again during the pandemic, and got a group through Onepagerules and social media. That was our way back in, but we already had the models

Thank you for your videos, and I hope tomorrow is better. I've been a hobbyist and lore-bunny until now but the limited format finally has me interested in playing 40k.

Good morning! I hope whatever has put some chaos in your life is resolved in a way that is good for you and yours.

Watching this I wondered if you had ever reviewed Midwinter Minis and his Start Building tournament. Basically he bought all the Start Building boxes and ran videos on building and painting. He then started a knock out tournament where in, each battle offset two of the box sets with the winner going onto the next round. It was interesting as it would appear that those sets were more closely matched than you might think with tactics and a bit of interference from the dice gods made more of a difference than the differences in kit. It would be interesting to see this happen with the Combat Patrol boxes, but that might be an expensive project. An interesting side note was the differing methods Guy used to paint up the sets.

As someone who enjoys painting but hasn't actually played any wargames yet I like the precon nature of combat patrol, are there any other games with relatively balanced premade lists to start playing with? I've been printing and painting onepagerules and they've now added an option to autogenerate armies in armyforge for both their big games and skirmish games so I'm currently building up a couple of warbands for GFF, has anyone played around with these lists and could recommed whether they make for fun games?

Here' hoping that the rest of your week goes better! Thanks for always being honest and motivating. See you next week!

I particularly like the videos where you tackle something more esoteric (relative to painting minis), these subjects aren't easy to rationalise for an audience but you always get there.

Thanks for another great video, and happy birthday!!

The new boxes will probably be different detachments, as well. Like a Bloody Rose box for the Sisters (Oops all Repentia kind of thing) Speed Freak box of Orks, etc. different flavors of the armies.

Great video! I like hearing your thoughts on Combat Patrol. Hope your day's troubles were nothing too major and it gets better for ya man! As someone still pretty new to it I'd be interested in watching a video on your thoughts on intros into war gaming.

Despite the setbacks today, you nailed yet another banger! Always happy with your content. Hope your day got better. Thanks again for your perseverance and dedication. :)

Thanks for the video. Local store is doing a combat patrol league for 10th. Everyone picked up their boxes 2 months ago. Two guys got left out in the cold.😢

Sorry that it was a rough day, lots of those going around. I am unsure how I feel about Combat Patrol but I hope it works out for the best. Because of work and...mood I haven't been able to play or paint anything even related to tabletop or 40k so I hope that changes sooner than later. Happy early birthday! Also hoping to read more through Majestic.

An Inquisition Combat Patrol would use the Breachers, Cops, and Kasrkin, so that would be great, maybe the Ashes of Faith as a combat patrol.

As a long time watcher of all the tabletop youtube videos I would like a video on where to start. Going to look at the combat patrol stuff now, thanks. Maybe some commitment therapy as well.

I think they said in some of the livestreams that there will be a new combat patrol with each new codex release. For Knights I think 2-4 Armigers would be a nice list, maybe toughness/wounds need to be adjusted 😃

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, hope your day got better. And early happy birthday.

The best way to get into wargaming video sounds great. Skirmish vs Army. 3D print vs purchase. Indie vs the mainstream. The topic seems like you could make it a series and use it as an excuse to talk again about some topics that you may have changed opinion about or that are just in a different place than they used to be.

I am stoked that they released the combat patrol rules for free. I've always thought it was weird to paywall your list building info. It made getting into 9th edition hard.

I'm pretty keen to get on with combat patrol. My buddy is a single dad with next to no free time so combat patrol suits him down to the ground, and we're looking into trying to get some games in with the new edition. Great video once again, I'd be keen to see a video on the easiest way to get into war gaming that doesn't necessarily focus on warhammer.

Happy birthday!! 🎉

Always a pleasure to listen to your perspective. Yes, I think a vid concerning getting into wargamming vs 40k would be an awesome resource for new players. Cheers!

Happy Birthday!

14:11 IT WAS ME, I BOUGHT A BOX OF THE NECRONS 😢 I was so excited to finish painting my funny space croissant and friends and then when all the datasheets got released, lo and behold, none of the units were even in there. I was lucky to have split Indomitus back when it came out. Still miffed tho, I WISH THEY AT LEAST ANNOUNCED IT BEFOREHAND. Aside from that, I did also buy Deathwatch and I'm excited to play some Combat Patrol today with a friend who bought his T'au box.

There is no way you can reasonably proxy the Reanimator as a Doomstalker - that thing is quite a bit taller, and two base sizes up!

Good video. I might pick up a box in the future for this. Lately I have been caught in option paralysis with the old world. So it might be refreshing just being told what my list is.

A Happy Advace Birthday, Uncle Atom. Hopefully today will be better than yesterday.

Thanks 😊 fun as always and your opinions do matter to us ❤ hope your day got better 🙂

7:00 yes, I'd love to see a video like that, beginner's guide to war gaming.

Hope your day goes better! You’re spot on with Combat Patrol. I love it. I’m not a big list builder, but the original Kill Team got me into 40K. I loved looking at the possible models I could buy and add. That’s missing with new KT. I do wish Combat Patrol would allow players to use different options in the box. New players might be freaked out, if they play Eldar, to have sprues of Storm Guardian swords, pistols, and heads that they have no way to use. A bit of flexibility with the box could help. I know I have a Wraithlord with the “wrong” shoulder gun. Two more lines of print could avoid that. Thanks for the video! Hope your day gets a lot better.

Happy birthday!

Really helpful, thanks. I have some stuff I got for Kill Team 2018 and I've downloaded the 10th ed free stuff out of curiosity. I tend to play skirmish sci-fi, so Combat Patrol might be a way forward for me. I also built a box of Grey Knight Paladins for Kill Team and have a strike squad on the shame pile, so I'm very interested in them. Of course, I can slot it around my OPR requirements as well, which is a bonus. Cheers for sharing your thoughts.

Would actually really enjoy a video on good entry points to war gaming compared to combat patrol. Even compared to other games such as shatterpoint etc.

That oops all termagaunts line killed me lmao

You may have had a bad day, but every time I watch one of your videos mine gets a bit better. Thanks Uncle Atom.

Really enjoyed this one. I would love your "how to get into..." video, but hey, I just love your videos.

The floating El Camino. Oh my gosh I couldn’t stop laughing. I now know what I’m calling. that darn thing from now on.

Yes, please do a video about good entry games to get into wargaming. Got a couple of buddies I’m working on and that would be appreciated. Thanks for the vids!

I really like your color scheme and how you painted the captain from leviathan.

Nice video.. now i'm looking even more forward to trying combat patrol..

I think it would be neat if there were more themed Combat patrol boxes, or if there was even a way to use the Boarding Patrol boxes in the same system, even if theyre not that balanced against each other.

Happy Birthday, old man!

GW doesn't do a good job of stating it, but the Leviathan Launch is like a pre-release of 10th. It's for everyone who wants in early, which is a lot of ppl. I was worried about the combat patrol missions being locked to the Leviathan book, but I'm glad they're finally here. We also just saw that the first big balance is coming in July, which to me says after that 10th edition if officially in the wild. As for a Imperial/Chaos Knights Combat Patrol: I'd love to see 3 Armigers, ideally with both weapon loadouts and with a chaos upgrade sprue. The reason being 3 Armigers can be taken as Freeblades and will be a nice box for people who want to do that instead of buying 2 of the boxes which come with two Armigers. I'm very excited to get my combat patrols on the table and I'm glad you're having a good time with it!

Missed opportunity for them to make a Combat Patrol for Agents of the Imperium. The Navy and Inquisition aren't meant for full-sized play, but 500pt Combat Patrol is just their size (for all that they lack a vehicle centerpiece). I've played a lot of Boarding Actions and have enjoyed running my Agents in that format, so it would be nice to see them here too.

As someone who has no interest in large games of 40k that take half a day to play, as well as someone who doesn't have a 6x4 table just laying around (and also won't be buying one with the express purpose of playing a miniature game), Combat Patrol is just what I wanted. I already have the Imperial Guard one and have picked up a Doomstalker so I have the contents of the Necron one. I also plan on picking up the ones from Leviathan when I get my current ones painted up (I'm assuming most if not all the minis in them will be the in the new starter sets). That's more 40k minis than I have bought in years. Just having an option where my buddy and I can sit down, put some minis on a reasonably sized table and play a game in about hour is a world of difference. I feel like I might even do some list building and play some 750 point games by adding one more board to the combat patrol board and adjusting the incursion objective placement/ deployment sizes accordingly.

This helped solidify my wavering on whether I should start building my Ork Combat Patrol box and take a whack at 10th edition. Thank you, sir.

Another great video. Thanks for inspiring me to play TTWGs.

I'd love to see a video about the best ways to get into miniature wargaming. Also, happy birthday Adam!

Didn't even know combat patrol was a separate game. Nice to know, would make it easier for beginners. I've never played a game and I've been collecting for years. Seems like it's a new rendition of the easy mode, using power points etc.

Nerdbunker looks cool. N happy birthday.

i don't use to write comments, but seen you in such a mood motivates me to write you to say : thanks! for everything and for all your videos, guides, and specially efforts to build and improve that community. I'm really interested in watching your takes, and there's not so many people with your veteran age (sorry) that i anjoy hear talking. So, i wish you that your days improve and hope to watch more content from you if you are ok with doing that :) PS: sorry for my rusty english, not my first language! Hugs from Barcelona!!

Thanks for the video. I hope they make more combat patrol lists, namely something with Indomitus Marines to mirror the new Necron list, using the sword boys, bikers, etc. since a lot of players have those models, anyone that has Indomitus/9E starter has 2 ComPats ready to demo for their curious friends.

This was a good video. I got into 40k back in the "Rogue Trader" days (dating myself slightly). I really enjoy the lore and the game world. I dropped out several times, life and then skirmish games are easier to play than the scale of 40k. But, this looks very interesting, if I'm honest with myself. I like the idea of buying a box and playing that box, even though I haven't played since 7th edition. I'd love to see a video on "what's the best way to get into wargaming". That sounds like a cool topic to discuss.

Haven't played since 6th myself but loved putting leviathan together. I enjoy your content and dulcet tones. Subscribed!

Well for me, it's working as designed. I've never played 40k..but this new CP version hooked me in. I'm building n painting a Grey Knights cp right now.. I had a strike squad box, so I'm already list building towards 1500pts cuz why not, I got 1000 now? Was leery of the delayed mission release but it got here.. and I ordered the core book 'to have' anyways. Seems like success from the GW side.

Thanks for the video, and I hope things get better soon! Also, I'd love to see the "getting started with wargaming" video that you mentioned. 😊

awesome video :) i love that the stuff you talk about, always seems to be some topics that i think about in my head :D and yes please make the video about getting into wargaming, i only tried Warhammer Age of Sigmar and 40k so im pretty interested in other stuff than games workshop.

Great video and review about the Combat Patrol thingy! Yes I would really like to see a video from you, how to get into Wargaming at all! So please do it! :D

Sounds good to me. I'm trying to get a couple of games done with my Necrons and sisters! Hope you're day got better!

I'm so glad they did this because I've been wanting to play, but I got no one who's also invested, so I would have to get 2 armies. It's so much simpler and cheaper to just pick up 2 of these boxes and lend one to a friend. My favorite armies that I would have fight are Orks and Sisters of Battle.

Feel better soon.

My LGS is doing a combat patrol 'tournament' as a way to welcome in new players and for veteran players to have some fun with 10th. Instead of focusing all the prize support into the tournament side, it instead is getting split between best painted (as voted by the players), winner of tournament, and best sportsman (as voted by the players). I like that it is taking off the emphasis on winning. Downside, since this was announced when they announced combat patrol as a format, there was a guy that bought the space marine box and had it all painted up. Now they have to start from scratch on a new force.

Happy Birthday.

If you can still find the 9th edition Warhammer 40,000 Elite Edition box set, it has the Necron Combat Patrol minus the Doomstalker. I've seen it online for $85 and doomstalker for $42.50 so you could put the Necron CP together for under $130 and you get some Space Marines as well which if you could sell would bring the price down even more. The Necron CP looks like it is Overlord, 10 Necron warriors, 3 Skorpekh Destoyers + Plasmacyte, 3 Scarabs and Doomstalker (pg. 184 in 10th ed book)

Combat patrol is going to make me end up buying every single army box

One point about the best way to get into war gaming is that you should probably take into account what is popular in your area. If combat patrol is what people are playing then you will be able to find people to play against. If you find a cheaper game but no one around is playing that would be hard to get into. So it helps to try and find out what game system people are playing in the LFGs around you

I hope all is well, brother Atom.

Thank for your 2 cents worth, always appreciated (even here on the little island where everything is in ££). I always follow the rule of cool, and ignore most promotions / new things, unless there's a super cool model. But it's also great to see that GW seem to be implementing ALL the ideas you had for making 40K better. (How about that?) Also, everybody has days like that, kudos for doing a video anyway!

I'd love a video on the best way to get into wargaming, and the exact reasons why it's Stargrave.

thanks for all the videos man, it helps.

Happy Early Birthday, sir!

Hope your days get better, dude. As for combat patrols, there is that thing to consider: it’s a pre-made force, good for starting, still can be pretty expensive (hopefully not as much as going full piece-meal with gathering the army) and the obvious “ha! He got a patrol! Couldn’t stand doing a little math, did ya?”. The real big problem is if GW decides Patrols are better off being just a word on the rulebook and stops selling them.

Hope you and your are okay? I am starting with combat patrol with my lovely 10y old and the Leviathan box. Before, we tried just throwing dice and moving models along the table. but him getting a bit older and seeing my play wants to join "the real game" ;-) working as intended i suppose. Take care!

40k should be combat patrol in primis, with tons of different strange faction and dedicated box. Imperial guard is the perfect example for that, but also small new faction. They are quick, fun, indeed a very good idea for modern time.

Some days be like that. Hope today is better for you. Keep on swinging, keep on slinging.

Nice video as always. Hope your week gets better And, yes. A video about getting into wargames would be nice.

i bought a box of the orks to try to get into the war gaming thingy. So more ways to get into war gaming would be nice.

I had a thought about the Necron Combat Patrols. If a person is ok with Proxi, the old has an Overlord, the Immortals could be run as Warriors, the tomb blades as the Skorpek destroyers, and the Scythe as the Doom Stalker. The only model missing is the little guy that the follows the destroyers, so a token could be used. It’s not perfect, but it could work.

I'm still putting my Leviathan box together, but I'm getting back into 40k with 10th and excited to try combat patrol. I was hopeful that they would have multiple combat patrol lists: like a list for the Space marines in the leviathan box, as well as one for the old SM combat patrol box. I figured they could do the same for tyrannids and was disappointed not to see that. Like, I I want to play combat patrol but I'd like to use the dreadnought that came with leviathan.... still enjoying things though!

I would love to see you make a video on how to get into wargaming! There's a lot of videos out there on KZfaq about how to get into 40k, or how to get into wargaming through 40k (from people who have basically only ever played 40k), so having your down-to-earth sort of take on it from someone who's played a lot of different games would be very welcome. Always good to have a few games to recommend folks check out to see what sparks their interest; I know for my friends it was Zona Alfa that really lit the fire, which we wouldn't have discovered if we'd just started and stayed with 40k.

I plan on tweaking my own lists to play combat patrol with friends using models we have. Doesn't have to be balanced if it's casual and might actually be funnier if something unexpectedly ends up steamrolling the other army.