The Man Bat element is what makes this pitch so dope. Batman is having trouble being 2 different personas when he is haunted by a creature who has no ability to control which persona he can be. Poetry.

Mr Freeze's theme isn't revenge. It's the fear of loosing your loved ones. Which is the only thing Batman said he fears in the previous movie...

The potential for Scarecrow has already been teased within this new batman universe with psychedelic drugs such as “Drops” being common place in the universe. It’s totally possible that Crane is at Arkham Asylum right now.

I’ve always loved the idea of Hugo introducing or making the monster characters like Croc and Man Bat and Clayface.

I’m pretty torn on this pitch. I think Hugo Strange is perfect for a storyline about Arkham, which seems right on time in this version of Batman’s story. However, I think Strange making monsters like ManBat feels very off in Reeves’s world. Moreover, I think the jump to Bruce no longer being a recluse, while being a logical jump to make from the previous film, is an arc that should be seen and not told. The process of him becoming a public figure like his father, his first press conference in years, these are things that should be big moments in a film, not happening between them.

I think one other reason why Freeze would be cool is simply because you could have the film set during winter and have another opening monologue by Batman except it's christmas eve instead of halloween. And then the poster could be blue instead of red. In other words the *aesthetics*

I really need a movie where Clayface is a Hugo Strange Monster, because it would justify Clayface’s origin a lot better than his traditional origin, and it would allow us to have him in an otherwise grounded movie. Plus, a man who can shapeshift is an amazing antagonist for a detective story.

I think having man-bat would be a great catalyst for batman's refined winged suit. He could see the way man-bat flies. He could also see how he has issue with fighting man-bat in there first encounter which inspires him to make the definitive cape glider we all know and love.

This pitch is GREAT. You're always so thoughtful about themes and characterization. Also, please consider making a Casting The Batman's Remaining Rogues video! My wife and I always lose our minds about your casting videos, and Giancarlo Esposito as Hugo Strange is positively inspired. We would love to see who you'd come up with for Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze, Two-Face, Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist, Scarecrow, etc. as well as who you're imagining for Professor Pyg and White Rabbit!

6:40 Freeze is not just about vengence. There's the whole drama of him trying to save his wife at all cost, which already makes him different from Riddler, who is selfish and crimes were result of his desire for attention. The fact he does all this evil just to save the woman loves could work as great test to Batman development, with him discovering about Nora and in the end defeating Freeze not by punching him but rather by saving his wife (maybe with the help of scientists of Wayne enterprise), showing how he grow into a hero who actually helps people in need, including his enemies.

I think what you're missing about Mr. Freeze is that everyone wants him while the town is flooded, that he'd be more menacing with all the water to freeze and travel over

The Martha Wayne / Arkham point is so interesting in the context of the flashpoint story where she becomes the Joker. If you have her being prone to manic episodes in the main storyline, then that turn becomes that much more believable. I’d also love to see an Arkham that (at least on the surface) is actively trying to help normal peoples mental health - but that under the surface they’re treating everyone as they’d treat the criminally insane.

I like this, but I would keep the monster men down to more body horror and slightly augmented abilities, but not meta human level. I don’t think it would be totally believable to go from thugs, conspiracies and criminal masterminds to mutant crocodiles and flying bat people. It still needs a little more progression. I think introducing Killer Croc and then bringing him back later as his mutation worsens into him becoming that oversized supervillain could work, but this one should def be more Cronenberg body horror

id personally say *this* sounds like a movie 3. exploring arkham is more impactful if we have another movies worth of villains in there, and while i hadnt heard the mr freeze mini pitch before now i really agreed with all the reasons you gave for why people want it. if the only holdup is the theme not matching, shift it a little. turn mr freeze away from revenge and towards “wanting to save his wife” and it can like up w where bruce is as trying to help people

Can’t lie, I disagree with Freeze, it can bring out an emotion of empathy in Bruce and can teach him that his villains also have a struggle and a story, and can be an emotional ride for him.

I feel like the problem with this pitch is that it fails as a mystery. We immediately know the man behind everything is Strange. Where's the noir angle? The dark secrets? Also, the way you characterize Strange, he comes off as a moustache twirling villain instead of a man who genuinely believes Bruce is """sick""" and needs help, which makes the conflict far less interesting.

I think most people suggest Freeze because Matt Reeves said in an interview that Freeze was a villain he wanted to tackle in his Batman franchise

I still wanna see Scarecrow now because Batman said how he had mastered fear, and I’d love to see that idea challenged and get some genuinely scary superhero horror

I feel like another lesson Bruce should take from the confrontation is that everyone is in need of help, support, and saving. Not just the average citizens, but the worst of his rogues, especially. That’s one thing I live about Batman is that once he grows to become THE BATMAN, he is just as motivated to save the villains as he is their victims. He sees them as sick, lost, or in pain. “Even after everything you’ve done, I still would have saved you.” One of my favorite episodes of Batman The Animated Series (Old Wounds), Batman gives a henchman a second chance at life by hiring him to work security at Wayne Enterprises so that he can support his family. It would tie in to Bruce’s efforts to rebuild Arkham to be a better care facility for Batman to show a similar goal for saving others and giving them second chances.

Me having giancarlo esposito in my head when you said, “I can never forget Martha Wayne, neither can you, Bruce”, gave me chills, this is actually not a bad pitch but for the Arkham series I could see strange going around the asylum and getting different perspectives on how the Batman affected the criminals and each retelling their encounters with him but we don’t see strange until the very end of the series and this leads up to the movie

I really like this pitch! However this feels like one of those “one bad apple” stories if we don’t see the abuse being undertook by other doctors/orderlies/guards that is overlooked by the system of the asylum

What I love about including Harvey Dent in all this is that everyone watching will be on edge every time he is on screen, just because they know who is he is going to eventually be. I do agree, building up the relationship between Dent and Wayne early on will make the fall from grace hurt even more.

I think Freeze could also work for showing Robert Battinson's growth as a character. He moved on from being vengeance, learned from his fight with Riddler, and could portray that long term growth through a character like Freeze. Maybe Freeze is even inspired by Riddler and Batman has to prove to himself that he's different. Still think it'd be interesting but I love this pitch just as much!!

I think for the second film, hush would be the perfect antagonist. A childhood friend of Bruce who is intent on destroying him. It would also have the mystery element with bodies turning up with mauled faces in hush's plan to become Bruce.

Would you consider making a video about casting the rest of the Batfamily (Robins, Batgirl, Batwoman, maybe even Batwing?) and Batman villains?

The only problem I see with this pitch becoming a reality is the extensive use of meta human characters. Which I believe Matt Reeves has said he doesn’t really plan on doing.

I love the pitch. I also feel like an adaptation of "the long Halloween" would fit Pattinson's batman. imperfect detective skills, learning from his mistakes, etc.

With no studio interference, I trust Matt Reeves to write a script that’s just as thought out and grounded (at least in its storytelling) to pull another incredible movie off. Your pitch was just as solid. Can’t wait to see what they do moving forward! The Gotham they created has sooo much potential

I really hope to see the likes of Professor Pyg, Hush, Firefly, Mad Hatter, Scarface, and Deathstroke in this new Batman era. Let’s get as dark as possible with Battinson’s world and give the spotlight to some lesser-known villains who haven’t reached the silver screen yet.

Hugo Strange, Progressor Pyg AND Man-Bat ?!? In the same film? Absolutely perfect.

Your delivery of "behind Kiteman" literally made my LOL. I also did a spit-take with my coffee. Well done.

I originally had an idea for a two-pronged plot featuring both Zsasz and Hush. Zsasz is one of those villains whose appeared in films like Batman Begins and Birds of Prey and as a recurring role on the show Gotham, but I think he really could be the lead villain in a Se7en style drama, and I also pick Hush because I think he’s a great villain as well and it would be fun to see Batman grappling with two unrelated threats at the same time, especially when Hush is a villain who targets his Bruce Wayne side, and could even be tied into the Riddler like the comic. Plus, we could also possibly get a Red Dragon style scene in Arkham with the Joker. With a three hour run time, it wouldn’t be too difficult.

How about a pitch for Captain America: New World Order and Wonder Woman 3?

I'm still really betting on the Court of Owls popping up sooner rather than later just because Reeves seems really into them, even if that doesn't happen next movie.

I think Nicholas Cage would be a great Harvey Dent, but this story line could also possibly explain why the Joker had so much bruises and scars in that deleted scene. While not being a villain, it would still be really cool. Edit: I also think it would be cool if the designs of the creatures Hugo made were based off the Sloth victim from Se7en, since the first one was inspired by Se7en. Just that look of starvation would be very interesting to see.

That dialogue pitch for the scene between Strange and Bats was amazing I felt like I was already seeing it in my mind

I love the idea of making a Batman movie where we take a hard look at the manipulative nature of the mental health system. I think it needs addressed even if not this way.

The bit in 'The Batman' about Martha Wayne having been a former patient at Arkham is taken from the 2012 graphic novel "Batman: Earth One" volume 1. In that story, and I think in this most recent movie, her maiden name was Martha Arkham - in other adaptations before marrying Thomas she is Martha Kane.

I loved Hugo Strange in Gotham and I think he's brilliant in your pitch! It opens the possibility for so many more villains to come into the movies as Strange loves experimenting on people and mutating them, like in gotham. 10/10 pitch

This was an awesome pitch i absolutely love the scene you described of Hugo strange and Batman’s first meeting I can literally imagine Giancarlo Esposito as the arrogant Professor strange boasting how he figured out Bruce is Batman and how he set up a prison transport escape with Gordon it sounds awesome. The idea of Hugo strange playing a psychotic game of chess with Batman would be awesome to see.

They need to show the process of rebuilding Gotham. Bruce Wayne should use his wealth and influence to raise money for the rebuilding project. I would expect the Bruce Wayne persona to be more developed. Maybe the story can revolve around Bruce meeting with other wealthy and influential families in Gotham. Then they can introduce the Court of Owls. In the power vacuum that was created with the death of Falcone, other people are scrambling to take control of Gotham. This includes some wealthy families who are part of a secret society. I hope they show Bruce becoming more social and using his charm and wealth to bring people together to clean up Gotham.

This is my similar pitch: I’d love to see an “antihero”/“sympathetic villain” Hugo Strange. He finds out who Batman is and instead of trying to supersede him he tries to “fix” him. He manipulates mentally ill patients into fighting Batman; each villain he manipulates represents a different damaged facade of Batman’s psyche. At some point Batman realises what is going on, and further realises that it is making him a better person and crime fighter. Now he has to decide whether or not that’s a price he’s willing to pay. Ngl I clearly don’t have 40 minutes of content here but I love the whole “Mad Scientist” Hugo Strange. I honestly find early Strange to be a bit dull and his Arkham/Batman connections to be his best asset.

I do love the idea of it being about Bruce learning about the system of Arkham being broken and not vilifying mental illnesses I would also just add that the animated series villain Lockup did exactly the same thing as this pitch and would recommend rewatching that episode if you haven’t already.

They could make an insanely gritty and dark batman 2, for example manbat could be an amalgamation of human skin in the form of a bat, not even a failed experiment but surgically modified. Some body horror potential there. They could also have another side villain like killer croc, but completely reimagine him and make him more humanoid and have him be cannibalistic, all these characters could have origins in Arkham leading Him to strange and strange could be modifying them to fit their inner persona and darkness.

If Matt Reeves and team were to do this exact pitch and put their artisan touch on all of it, it might go down as the best Batman media ever released. Amazing pitch, Nando

Bruce Wayne rebuilding Gotham should be part of the sequel, but that the company hired to rebuild Is deeply corrupt in some way. It could tie into Arkham also. Every great pulp detective should have two cases they’re working on that turn out to be related.

I definitely have been thinking over it for a couple of months. A story where Dr. Hugo Strange, an orbital outsider of the Gotham elite while still being the CEO of Arkham Asylum; uses his hidden genetic experiments combined with hypnosis to create at first a Grendel from Beowulf type creature to hunt Gotham's elite before using stolen knowledge from a captured Dr. Langstrum and uses his own methods on him to create Man Bat at night. Langstrum is awake and active in the day but only with vague waking nightmares of his hidden activities. Bruce has to deduce not only who's man bat but also whose orchestrating the murders leading to a showdown with an enhanced Strange in the bowels of Arkham

I think that the two most slept on villains are poison Ivy and mad hatter. It would be a perfect continuation of the batman if Poison Ivy started poison wealthy gotham men. While some other person could be a prime suspect, Pamela hides in the shadows. Maybe she's in a relationship with Harvey or Bruce and not even considered as a suspect. The Mad Hatter is also such an interesting villain. Maybe Alice, who was Jervis Tetch's coworker, gets deformed in a car accident. After that, a team up between tetch and pyg to recreate the perfect girl could drive them mad.

Hugo Strange was awesome in Batman: Unburied. Would be a great villain for a movie imo! Great video

But I’d also love to see Brian Cranston as Mr. Freeze. Just watch the interrogation scene from Godzilla (2014) and imagine that it’s Victor Friez talking to GCPD about him trespassing on GothCorp. And this is unrelated, but I’d love to see Bill Burr play Killer Moth in a James Gunn project

A Batman movie with scare crow, pyg, and manbat would be just a straight up horror movie.

This is very similar to my pitch except I had Hugo Strange pick different villains in an effort to "mock" Batman for a decon-recon switch. 1) Blockbuster: A superior physique to showcase how Batman paled compared to an augmented meta-humans. 2) Magpie: A woman with duel personalities with one being a dark rooftop battler to insult Batman's duel identities. 3) Firebug: Rebranded as a hardened military man who uses fire-weapons to belittle Batman's discipline. 4) Electrocutioner: A spectacle show-boater to demean Batman's flair for the theatrics in his war on crime.

I might be in the minority but I don't think this is the story/direction they should go into. Because of how they ended the last story, I believe they are setting up a folded version of the comic "NO man's Land" where instead of a flood an earthquake hits gotham and completely separates many places in Gotham from the GCPD and the bat Family. What then happens is that certain villains come out the woodwork to establish control, rebuild their plot of gotham in their own image and just take over without the oversight of the Bat Family. Especially with just how many villains they can pull from this makes a lot more sense than to just throw away the world state they are currently in for a Arkham specific story. I still want Hugo as a villian, maybe even the villian pulling strings, but at least have it in their world state

Would make sense in universe to have a young, newly qualified Strange be the psychologist of Martha Wayne so that he can come into the Batman story at middle age with crucial information about Batman that he doesn't know he has yet.

I think it would have been fun to get like a knight fall story going on. Think about it, the crazies see riddler dressed in a costume and got famous, so they decide to kite man, crazy quilt, so and so. Bruce takes them all out one by one, then Hugo releases them all in one knight, every single patient. Big final fight, joker gets out BAM

Really went ALL OUT on this video! Had me feeling thrilled and engaged, like I was watching the movie

I think an interesting idea I don’t see explored much is a Hugo Strange/Clayface movie. One where Clayface’s origin is has Strange mixed in with it. Clayface is an actor of course looking for a way to look younger again, and I think you can probably have him go to Strange for help and have Clayface be one of Strange’s failed (or maybe even deliberate) experiments.

just the thumbnail was enough for me to realize Hugo Strange fit so perfectly with the tone of The Batman

Martha was also an Arkham in the Telltale video games, they're exclusively story based, no actions besides pressing a couple of buttons and being able to walk around environments for clues and whatnot, so very welcoming to ppl who don't play video games and the stories are some of the best batman stories I've encountered personally, highly recommend

These pitches never let me down.. you put so much thought into these

I like that all of Strange’s patient pawns are animal-themed. There’s something to be said there

I feel like this is way too much fantastical way too soon. Rearrange the characters used, and I could see it. Mr. Pyg, surely. Fits right with the tone. Killer Croc as an actual shape-changing monster? Man-Bat? Those are movie 4 villains. The MCU took its time to get us acclimated to the fantasy elements. Considering where it started, it needed it. Same goes for The Batman. Your explanation behind Mr. Freeze only convinced me that’s the better choice. Hugo Strange’s gimmick is creating monster-creatures from patients. That feels like we need an interstitial story that blends those two versions of reality together. He COULD be the second movie’s villain. But with meta-humans? Not really. I’m not even opposed to them being introduced, but the leap from the first movie to this one is just enormous, way more than I think most comic book fans realize. The Batman is NOT that kind of movie. A Robin? I can see it. A woman who can create an immediate clone of herself? I can’t. Thematically, this pitch is perfect. The use of Arkham is great. I just feel like it needs to tone down the fantastic. Which, if that’s the case, I don’t know. I feel like a Batman villain deserves their full arsenal. But I do think Hugo Strange as a cruel, manipulative psychiatrist could just work on its own, realistic. So I’m conflicted.

This pitch was 🔥 you completely convinced me why Hugo Strange is a perfect fit for the sequel

This is a fantastic idea for the over arching themes and a perfect way to highlight Batman’s strength of will, intellect, and integrity with great introduction of new characters

A part of me really wants them to wait for a 4th movie for two-face as I feel like having two movies of Bruce and Harvey’s relationship would make the two-face stuff that much more powerful and meaningful and would provide for an interesting battle of Bruce having to fight someone who his close friend

Cool pitch as always, but I don't think it manages to escape the "how to write a Batman villain without leaning on mental illness" problem. Strange is obsessed with Batman, and his plan to study Bruce a while instead of killing him is what leads to his downfall--maybe there's a way to spin that as arrogance or hubris, but as is this feels like a story about how the mentally ill are being exploited by an EVIL mentally ill person.

I love the idea of Hugo Strange being The Batman 2’s villain, he’s a perfect fit and deserves a big-screen adaptation. However, one plot-hole I can point out in this video is this: how would Bruce have no tangible evidence that Hugo is behind the plot if he has his eye-contact cameras? Perhaps some sort of electrical interference in the room? Then how would he know?

I feel like with this second one our frontrunners are probably Hush, The ventriloquist and the penguin. All 3 are characters i could picture fitting into the universe besides penguin bc hes already in the universe lol. I have a feeling it could be hush or hush and someone bc its pretty much already confirmed without it being said he exists in the world

I just about died laughing when you called killer croc Waylon Jennings. Waylon Jennings is a country singer, Waylon jones is killer croc

Esposito would literally be a perfect Hugo strange it’s like scary accurate

Zsasz, Hush, Man-Bat, Scarecrow, Pyg, etc. Something grounded and horrific.

For me Killer Croc would be great with Gotham being flooded. You can even use Hugo Strange in a similar way. He mutates Croc further. In the end you can even vist the circus Croc came from, and it's Haley's circus. The last scene is the annoucer pointing to the trapeze

Nando, would you like to go to the water park with me? I heard they have some new slides

When you say that Freeze is best as a villain for a vengeful Batman. That makes me think he would be great for a post Jason Todd death Batman movie.

Hugo Strange definitely has a lot of potential. Fantastic video, loved how much care and passion you put into this video.

Amazing idea! I'm sure these pitches take a long time to write, record, edit, etc.. but they are definitely my favorite of your videos and I'd love to see more. Maybe MCU Fantastic Four sometime?

Haven't watched the video yet, but if they want to keep going in the detective movie route they could use Calendar Man as the main villian and have it take place through the year as Batman howns his skills as a detective while working with the GCPD. Probably could have Bruce Willace as Calendar man or Paul Giamatti.

Awesome! I had a very similar idea. I would only add and change a couple of things here: 1) A scene in addition to Strange watching Bruce brush off the question about a cell for Batman in which Strange is interviewing Nashton (perhaps in the past) and makes the connection that Bruce wasn't there to open the letter even though he never went anywhere as far as anyone knew and it adds to his suspicion that Bruce Wayne is (the) Batman. 2) I would add small comic booky details to Langstrom's story to flesh it out: Langstrom was trying to cure deafness inspired by his deaf niece - just to make it more personal. It backfires, he is shown to have created a version of the Man-Bat formula and turns partially into a bat-creature. He is found by Strange or his hench-men and taken to the Arkham Hospital. His identity comes clear to Strange when he is reported missing by his wife Francine and/or his sister. Langstrom is treated at Arkham and perhaps is already showing signs of reverting back to his human form, but Strange has gotten a hold of his formula and plays with it more to turn Langstrom into Man-Bat proper, after which Strange sets him loose. You could say that Strange has had ideas similar to this with his man-beast fantasies but never came this close in his efforts until Langstrom inadvertently provided him the spark he needed. And Strange can keep playing dumb and say it was all Langstrom's own doing and that the serum must have been affecting him further unbeknownst to him / them. 3) Croc and Pyg are great options, they work fine in this pitch. I have a small problem with White Rabbit - her cloning ability is a bit too much for me even compared to the Man-Bat serum. I would suggest a different approach. Have the movie start off with Batman dealing with the rising criminal elements of the city (either under the rule of Oz / the Penguin or as his rivals). Have one of them be a small-time crime boss bordering on budding cult leader called Arnold Wesker, the Ventriloquist, who is either crazy or very charismatic and has managed to make his henchmen (who are also either crazy, in it for the money or legitimately scared of Wesker and his intentions) believe the puppet Scarface is alive and in control. He could be locked up into Arkham and later on be set free by Strange who compares the Wesker-Scarface relationship to Bruce-Batman (there's the fear as a weapon aspect and the dual personality aspect). That way you also get a sense of where the criminal life of Gotham is after Falcone's death. 4) Just for fun. I saw an opportunity for snarky BTAS-type Alfred moment in your pitch. Bruce (after first meeting Strange): "I don't trust the doctor." Alfred: "What makes you say that?" Bruce: "I don't know. There's just something off about him. There's something --" Alfred: "Strange?" Bruce: -.- What do you think?

The only thing I would add is that clayface would make a great addition to the monster mash in place of white rabbit. He could make copies of himself, strange, the other monsters, Bruce's parents, even Bruce himself

I know this is such a small detail but you totally nailed Giancarlo's cadence

I love the animal motifs with each of the patients you chose. It could really serve to convey the message that Strange sees the patients of Arkham as nothing more than animals.

mr freeze is a baddie

I love this pitch I really do. But I can’t imagine seeing the man bat in a movie that focused on being so realistic and grounded like it is

I would love to see a manbat created by Hugo in this universe, the noir setting can be combined very well with even a little bit of horror with a realistic mutant Frankenstein esc manbat.

Finally, somebody agrees with me that Hugo Strange should be the main antagonist of the Batman 2.

“Strange explodes, I’m sure he’s fine.” That’s… that’s a great sentence. Wonderful sentence.

Amazing pitch, so well made and thought out, and it is even realistically mostly doable! Amazing!

Just for all interested, Bruce's mother has always been from one of the other big families of Gotham. Normally, she's a Kane. This movie actually isn't the first time she's been an Arkham either; she was an Arkham in the Batman: Earth One series, and had a pretty similar issue that befell her there. Reeves pulled a lot from Earth One, Zero Year, Long Halloween, and a little from Year One for his version of Batman.

I do have a pitch for how to put Robin in this universe, but I do not think that he would work the way people want him. He’d have to be college-aged, and I think that Tim would work best. Just have him in Gotham fighting crime on his own and showing up to help Batman throughout the movie, and Batman doesn’t want him out there because 1. He has no idea who he is (this version would wear a mask that covers his entire face), 2. He doesn’t want him to get hurt, and 3. He doesn’t want him to make a mistake. So part of the plot is Batman trying to figure out who he is. He eventually manages to track him back home, and finds that he lives alone. He figures out who he is, discovers his philosophy on crime-fighting, but still decides not to bring him on. He shows up during the final battle, and him and Batman become partners for the third film. Part of me feels like Robin could be replaced with Azrael here, and make the plot involve the Church of Saint Dumas to make it make more sense, but I’m pretty sure most of us would want Robin. Also, he’s Tim because he’s the most “detective” one, so he’d fit into this universe better than the others because of that.

I always get angry that these pitches and ideas never get implemented onto the big screen. Would definitely watch it, however I don't know if these villains would fit into the highly ground world.

Once again, such a great concept that organically showcases many villains yet has a focused story with a central theme.

After his performance in in Oppenheimer , Josh Hartnett would be the perfect Harvey Dent laying the ground work for his unstableness in the future as two face but just Harvey dent for now. Also save Giancarlo for Mr.Freeze and use Batista as Hugo strange!

This is a fun idea, really leaning into the Rogue's Gallery concept in a purposeful way And the 2 in a Trilogy should be weird and different

i love your pitch! the blending of supernatural elements need to be explored more and i feel that you using man bat to begin batmans struggle between his identities is exactly how i think it should go. I also think that you should look into killer moth as a possible villain, should wb contact you for batman 3 ;)

Though it's pretty unlikely, I would still absolutely love to see professor pyg on the big screen to continue down the darker tone and more realistic darker and violent world that was started with the first new Batman movie. The inspirations that they pulled from seven being doubled down on and exploring the darkest parts of a deranged monster vs a Batman trying to be a beacon of hope while the city is gripped by fear would just be a sight to behold. At least to me, but I'd just be happy to see the world built on.

Something that just popped into my head as I was watching this: what if Martha was admitted to Arkham as a means of silencing her whistle blowing on the Court of Owls? Not sure how that might work, and it might totally undercut what's been set up so far, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#1) Reeves has voiced his interest in Adapting Freeze next #2) Freeze’s revenge quest would in fact be a perfect foil for a Batman who is just learning to leave Vengeance behind. Think Black Panther in Civil War

I really want to see Professor pyg, I mean just image it. Horror elements like saw or the collector and the batman combined. Dude!!!!! I really want this to happen!

I had a very similar idea for Hugo Strange for a hypothetical new DCEU reboot. I guess it just figures that others could also see Strange making monsters who are not the monster men. Also, about why people seem to want Freeze for The Batman 2: maybe it has to do with the fact that Reeves has openly said that he wants to use Freeze?

You kinda lost me with White Rabbit tbh. Manbat and Killer Croc were stretches considering they are mutated but they are still imperfect mutations that can lead the way for more fantastical elements down the line. A woman that can clone herself would immediately be too fantastical in the world The Batman and this pitch built up.