Cover the psych exam I’ve ever seen anyone talk about it

Read it already!! Good stuff

It seems like every Special Operator is making a living on the internet, I don't mind, I enjoy the stories!

They have to find an outlet, it helps

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Mine did the same thing! I was convinced he was swapping out the paper for one with discrepancies on it lol He'd never show me before he walked out, only after.

I took a poly today, he walked out and asked me if i was lying...he said i failed every question. He moved the blood pressure cuff, and moved the finger monitoring devices to my palm of my hand....i don't know what to think about it tbh. I passed one before for a different agency...but for this one, it was hell

But the question is did you lie about anything?

@@m2024532did you pass?

Same thing happened to me for the fire department last month. Every comment on here is what happened. I was told he couldn't submit the results until I told him what I was hiding. Funny thing is, I'm still on the eligible list.

@FRWD its like flipping a 🪙. You can be truthful and have a clean record and you can still fail because the machine says so. Relax just go in there answers the questions and hope that you pass because its no you to pass. Its the machine and the poligraph examiner that decide whether you pass or not. It it was reliable you would see so many physchos working law enforcement. My best advice is to have a plan b. I failed the bp poligraph, i was truthful with a clean record and still failed. I dont feel bad because i already knew it was 50 50.

Not admissable in court.

If you passed, then he is supposed to say, "You came out NDI, or "You passed so far." However, as part of this process, your charts will go up to our Quality Control folks at HQs. If they don't agree with my call, are you willing to come back and take the test again?" 99% of the time, if the examinee really wanted the job, they will say, "Yes, I'll take the test again." If you go, "NO," he is supposed to give you another polygraph exam that same day. But not more than two exams a day. Here again, however, how they administer the polygraph will be determined by the parameters or thresholds that agency is wanting that determines the types of questions being asked.

@@elvisacosta6666wtf are you talking about? He has to retest the same day but can’t take 2 in one day?

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those are not passible

@@FNGACADEMY that’s for damn sure

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That’s awesome bro! 👊👊

Thanks brother! 👊

CVSA is garbage. I was told by the lieutenant that the microphone could "measure my subconscious" by analyzing my voice. Complete comedy.

@@muldrowe ha , yeah that’s funny ! It does detect stress in your voice by showing a tightening of the chart pattern during answers. But that’s all it does.

VSA isn't as accurate as the polygraph instrument. And its not because I'm a polygraph examiner. I won't say where I was but I was in charge and they were using the VSA for their interrogations when I first arrived there. The mere fact they were using multiple relevant issue questions in there lengthy interrogations, skewed the results, unlike polygraph exams, where is only one issue being tested. Moreover, the training for the VSA in minimal, at best, compared to the 14 weeks of graduate level classes offered by the fed when training to become a polygraph examiner. Lastly, most police departments go for the VSA because it takes less time to train someone up and they are cheaper to buy than a polygraph instrument.

@@truth6851 what happens if you naturally have tremors in your voice? (I have essential tremor disease)

CBP is awful - there's a vested interest in not passing applicants

Just failed the CBP poly. I agree, cannot make sense of it at all. I was told I was lying when I was not. They try to make you agree with the results no matter what. no matter what you say they basically try to make you lie and tell them something that never happened just because they say they have a reaction on the question being asked. I am no sure if it was only me but my experience also gave me a lot of cringe when the examiner stared at my face for like 3 straight minutes while saying nothing even asking him multiple times to continue or what was next?. I am so disgusted after that polygraph so I am not planning on reapplying in two years.

I failed the CBP polygraph two days ago. Totally ridiculous.

This literally blows my mind cuz they are severely understaffed and hurting for people lol. All my buddies failed the cbp poly and they were all army and deployed and even spoke spanish.

😭 just failed CBP, but passed LAPD I don't get it!!!

spot on

So basically you just repeated the video.

Haven't, taken one, but I've taken a Voice Stress Analyzer. Guess it works somewhat similar, but with the voice levels.

Took a polygraph yesterday. Not sure if I failed or if it was inconclusive, but long story short I’m disqualified from my application. They asked me relevant calibration questions like “Did you write the number 3?” and “Did you write the number 1?” to see what the reaction to a lie would be. The problem was I was nervous as shit and one of the questions on the test which was too open worded hit close to home with me and I remembered an incident that I felt guilty about that wasn’t on my background. This wasn’t anything criminal or serious, but something I knew was wrong that I had managed to move on from and forget. Unfortunately this guy used interrogation techniques and it worked. I wrote down the incident, which probably got me disqualified since it wasn’t on my initial background

You're wrong. And here's why. Polygraph exams are another investigative tool used during the course of a special government project requiring access to certain classified information or programs. Some call it a, "discriminator." Polygraph results are not the only vehicle used to filter applicants or existing employee. The instrument does get calibrated, but by the instrument's software. The questions you are referring to are called, "irrelevant issue questions." Pre-test interview is where the administrative aspect of the polygraph is discussed with the examinee. Health, Drug use/medications, pregnancy, etc. Then there is the acquaintance test. "Pick a number from 0 - 8 not being 0 or 8." So let's say you pick the number 4. I would tell you, when I ask you the question, "Did you write the number 4, I would want you to lie (directed lie)." This test is conducted to show the examinee that the instrument does work. Your physiological parameters will respond to the directed lie thus proving to you that the instrument does detect those physiological changes that do occur when the subject feels threaten by the question (discovery). Then the in-test, which is the actual polygraph exam itself. Three charts per test, with no more than two test a day. Otherwise, you have to give them 24-48 hours to recover before administering the test again. At times, the agency will bring in a different polygraph examiner to do the new tests. State agencies have different and less stringent standards than the feds even though the feds are trying to get the entire polygraph community on the same sheet of music. Standardized the requirements. Depending on what type of polygraph examiner you are, simply, are you a fed working for "the agency" requiring the polygraph? Are you a fed working for a federal law enforcement agency requiring the polygraph? Are you an intel polygraph examiner and do Counter-Intelligence (CI) scope polygraphs? The purpose and subsequent questions surround the type of job or mission the examinee is going to be either exposed to or actually participate in. Polygraph examinations are admissible in court but it depends on what federal court district you're in, and whether the prosecution proffers, with the defense's concurrence, to drop the charges, let's say, if the examinee comes up, "No Deception Indicated." Here again, depending on what the need is determines what types of questions are formulated to ask the examinee. Where the polygraph might not be admitted during trial, it can be used in a sentencing hearing. "Inconclusive ," is no longer used. Its now called, "No Opinion." Here again, there are similar reasons for coming up with a "No Opinion" call as I've already discussed in an earlier post. The main reason is, "What is the exam testing and the examinee's understanding of the questions. Therefore, if the physiological parameters (pneumos, galvanic skin response, and blood pressure and volume, are weak, its an indicator the examinee is either, 1) not paying attention to your questions, 2) doesn't understand your questions, and therefore needs clarity, or 3) they are simply conducting countermeasures. There are only two calls I am concerned about as an examiner; a "Deception Indicated, (DI)" and a, "No Opinion (NO)." Why? When an examinee goes DI, its my job to get him/her to admit or confess the thing. I then have them clarify, I re-write the question based on the new info, and then ask the question again in the new format. An "NO" is concerning because you never want an "NO" as an examiner because, 99% of the time, you did not psychologically set the examinee for the examine so its on you, and not the examinee.

Nice!!!

Any way you can share your experience on how that went and what you did leading up to it brother? And congrats man, go kill it !!!

@@ericbellgardt9909 ya man. So my I have a friend who hooked me up with a local recruiter. He went ahead of me cause I had work and told them what I wanted and what not. So my recruiter stayed after hours for me to get there when I got off work. So when I showed up he had a idea of what I wanted. So when I got there he just asked me 18x huh? I said yes sir. Just asked some questions about me and what not. Then he had me take a practice Picat which is how they're doing the asvab now. Got my score back and got like a 75 AFQT score. He said that pretty good. Then before we went any farther he looked to see if there was any actual contracts out. There was one. So some how some way he reserved it for me until I took the actual Picat last night. Had me stressed out all night and morning cause you don't know the score. I called this morning and told them I finished the test. Went during my lunch break to see what I actually got. I sit down and he was like "what do you think you got?" I had no idea. I thought I flunked that shit. He smiles grab the sheet and it says 95 on it. I met and went beyond the score I needed. He then said you surprised me man. These contracts are extremely hard to get. Then we talked about meps and the confirmation test that I gotta take to lock that score in.

Good luck bro

Don't drink Milk before the CS chamber. But it's fun to watch .

Just grabbed this on audible. Looking forward to listening to it.

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@@FNGACADEMY thanks for the like, wish for video about your preferred tactical gear while u were in the Green Berets.

Lots of love and Respect for you and what you're doing Sean, please don't get tired of doing what you are doing, I know there is a young kid somewhere watching your channel getting inspired by this and will keep them on the straight and narrow for the time being until going in Selection, I am buying your book, please advise me on the process to get your signature, johandup87@gmail.com

they overdo it for sure lmao

If a metal bowl was not placed on yo9ur head, then it wasn't an electric chair.

LOL, I just took a polygraph and the wall started to play games with me, started to look like animals and by the end I swear the wall was turning into liquid as well.

Same happened to me. I was told I was manipulating the test when I legit don't know how.

They're not trying to hire anyone.

What state did you take your poly?

got you bro

Chose wisely on what cities and agencies that seek out.

@@tomsteen2492 i appreciate this response man, I’ll call around and do my research so I can make and informed decision

@@CM-hd4pb thanks man I appreciate the solid info you gave me!

its the worst, I actually met a dude who had the same exact polygraph examiner and had the same terrible experience

Thanks bro 👊

37F can be attached to SF units or like mine, working with Navy bubbas in Iraq. Have to be on the Tactical side of PSYOP to go have Fun..alot has changed since I retired from Bragg. Good Luck!

thank you!!

Some agencies have policies about drug use. Most agencies don’t want you smoking weed or any other drug within 3-5 years. Maybe it was because of the time of smoking weed?

i like it!

Thanks brother

@@FNGACADEMY nah man, thank you for sharing your life with us and your service.

appreciate the insight! and thank you!

Also Ive heard people who speak a second language already can skip the course? Is this true and what language skill level do they need to be at?

I heard it was removed from the Q in 2020

I understand that if you are already bilingual, they will probably send you to a course for a different language to expand your capabilities.

I forgot get which video it was is, but Buck said if you were bilingual, the army would try and double dip and send you to a different language.

im under the impression for every language you get bonus pay for like up to 4 languages so if you only speak two theres still motivation to better yourself so if youre gonna skip the course just because you know two youre not gonna be the best of the best and isnt that why you want to be SF

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Was it for Customs? Lmaooo...

@@maverickthegr8 na bro. My clearance 😆. Dude was pissed.

more to come!

@@FNGACADEMY I will definitely buy any book from you. I’m now going back to continue reading Eagle Down: the last special forces fighting...

couldnt agree more

My job as a polygraph examiner is a seeker of truth. The word, "truth," is based on the examinee's physiological responses to the relevant issue questions. Good cop bad cop - Not in polygraph exams. Yes, do I have to make you like me? Of course, you're not going to admit or confess to an asshole, are you? And keep in mind, I'm analyzing everything about you from the minute I get your application, police report, etc., and confirm it when I interview you. Here too, what are the thresholds/tolerance levels, that the agency that is requiring you to take a polygraph consider acceptable? That determines the types of questions being posed. Simple example, If I ask you, "Have you ever taken any illegal drugs that were not prescribed to you by a medical doctor." If you respond with, "I smoked weed for a year." My next question would be, how many times a day did you smoke weed for that year. Then I would re-write the question to read, "Other than what you told me, have you ever taken any illegal drugs that were not prescribed to you by a medical doctor. If you told me everything you should clear that question. if you don't, then you felt threatened by your discovery and responded in a physiological manner that indicated deception.

@@elvisacosta6666 so ill go by posts you have posted on here. It seems like everytime someone who has some deal of credibility, in this case its a green beret who went through sere school, questioned the use of this machine. An individual who identifies themselves as an examiner comes into counter the message. This happened on another video where the video maker was a retired DEA SA. Part of me suspects, maybe you have decent intentions, and are trying to educate people. The other part of me believes that you're coming on here to do damage control. Ie an applicant will watch this and when they have to go take one of these, the polygrapher won't get a reading on them since they watched this video and think the detective, SA, or officer is full of shit when talking to them. Here is the last thing I will say about the usage of this in hiring. There have been a number of times where a person has passed a polygraph, and then derogatory information is developed during a background investigation. I.E usually information that should have been disclosed, or if the person administering the exam is so fantastic at conducting the exam they would have obtained this information. Now if the exam was used after an investigation where field work has been done, to verify information different story. What I just described doesn't happen, because doing the exam before a background (costs thousands of dollars) is more cost efficient. To put it bluntly obtaining the truth takes longer than 45 minutes or 4 to 5 hours, which is how long exams can last.

It's old but it isn't outdated, because people do regularly slip up and lie and are caught in the process of trying to trick the polygraph and lose sight of the big picture. Like he said, the only bad part is if the person conducting the test doesn't know what they are doing, but think they do. Even false rejects work because no one who is told they failed a polygraph thinks they should lie, they are motivated to be more truthful the next time around to pass. That in itself is the magic of it.

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Bad advise. As a polygraph examiner, I know that life throws crazy shit at us, and at times we have done things that we're not proud of. I get it. But being deceptive about it does not help you. The instrument does in fact tells the difference.

@@elvisacosta6666 well he passed the exam.

@@josecavazos1869 Well, he was lucky.

@@elvisacosta6666 not really because if you believe what you are saying then ur telling the truth

@@ismaelsaldivar1951 your post made no sense. What you believe and what is factual makes all the difference in how you respond to the relevant issue questions.

awesome man crush it!

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agreed. detectives do it all the time

Perfectly stated.

That's inaccurate as well. Again, its a tool used by the investigators to assist him in corroborating the information he has been provided during his investigation. As a senior special agent/polygraph examiner for legacy US Customs, I would always tell the special agents, to ask their subjects if they were willing to take a polygraph. Now, I did notice that many of these agents would not want to use the polygraph because if I got an admission or confession from the subject, the special agents would feel that I had taken all of their glory; that I would be credited with closing the case. Personally or professionally, I don't care who gets the credit.

Working on it!

Thank you!!

Yes, as a condition of employment, or if there is a theft issue, security, pharmaceutical and financial institutions can require a polygraph exam.

Will do

Can I get a FNG Academy shirt somewhere, if there is some joe much are they?