My Reaction to Jordan Peterson 'Destroying the Food Pyramid'

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Jordan Peterson blames obesity and diabetes on the food pyramid but do the facts match up? What about his pro animal farming stance? Let's do a Veaction, my new vegan reaction series.
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@ThoseStairsTheFirst Жыл бұрын

"the narcissists of compassion" - Jordan Peterson

@xnellyxs1 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Great point.

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

Compassion is not alpha.

@taraleckey1464 Жыл бұрын

🤣 brilliant 👏 …. that’s Nobel Prize winning material 😂 …. the whole set up is comedy 🎭

@rescuerhonda0164 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Barnard has a video on obesity, and people started getting larger when fast food joints started popping up. Cheese also has a big effect. My fibromyalgia (that I suffered from for 10 years) disappeared within a week when I went vegan. I had been vegetarian for 28 years and cheese was a big part of what I ate every day. Think my doctor told me that dairy causes inflammation? Nope, she just gave me rx's.

@Alexander-qy7yz Жыл бұрын

Fibromyalgia disappearing in just one week? That’s quick. Did you introduce cheese again in your diet to see if it resurfaced? I think I might be getting some acne from eggs but it’s not easy to be sure they are the cause, so I remove and reintroduce them to see if the results are being replicated. Otherwise I might be skipping eggs when the cause is something entirely different

@rescuerhonda0164 Жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-qy7yz No, I went vegan for the animals, so I will not eat cow cheese ever again! A friend and I made some epic nachos with jack fruit yesterday. We made the cheese sauce with potatoes, carrots, nutritional yeast, olive oil, soy milk, tomato paste, lemon juice, garlic and onion powder,, corn starch and salt, and it was amazing! I just discovered jack fruit, and I'm now obsessed.

@bobbun9630 Жыл бұрын

"people started getting larger when fast food joints started popping up" - This observation is what is known as time correlation. You have probably heard that correlation is not causation. That aphorism may be trite at this point, but it is true so keep it in mind. "My fibromyalgia (that I suffered from for 10 years) disappeared within a week when I went vegan." - This is also time correlation, as well as being a personal anecdote that is vulnerable to all sorts of subjective bias. Obviously do whatever you feel works for you, but bear in mind that your experience doesn't by itself establish efficacy for anyone else.

@DrReginaldFinleySr Жыл бұрын

Hi Rhonda, exactly. I always found it odd when 'experts' would state that they didn't know what caused fibromyalgia; yet, they knew that inflammation was involved. Well, duh. Reduce the inflammation. The major causes of inflammation are diet, disease, and environmental. Diet can greatly mitigate disease and environmental impacts, and thus, reduce inflammation. It's a no-brainer you'd think; but alas, so many medical professionals are just either clueless about the 'immediate' impacts of diet or they have simply given up and don't believe that people can change.

@VeganGoat96 Жыл бұрын

Of course they won't tell you the root cause. A healthy patient is bad for business. Glad you found the right side of life. Stay safe, enjoy your health! :)

@katiesdumbvideos5418 Жыл бұрын

I refuse to be told that Jordan Peterson is not a cartoon character

@majoritypatella2503 Жыл бұрын

I thought he was kermit the frog in a person costume.

@PercivalBlakeney Жыл бұрын

@@majoritypatella2503 Ladiesandgentlemenit'stheMuppetShowwithourspecialguest… Jordan Peterson!!! Yaaayyyy!!! (I'll get my coat.)

@barbaraibiel Жыл бұрын

He is a cartoon character! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebWEm66emMzYhKM.html

@rudestfusher585 Жыл бұрын

To Mic the Vegan: A omnivore diet is a person that eats regular meat and regular wild game meat, and eats vegetables, nuts, fruits and other stuff. I am still on this diet. We should be able to eat horse meat too.

@pablozamora5430 Жыл бұрын

@@rudestfusher585 still omnivore doesn't equal to optimal or balanced. There are many downgrades from eating meat, one is the diseases caused by the saturated fats and cholesterol (cardio disease, diabetes and many more), and also osteoporosis, because meat makes blood's ph acid and it is only offset with phosphate that the organism extracts from the bones, making them chipped and weak.

@ThatGuy-Official Жыл бұрын

It seems like he doesn't understand that the obesity epidemic was not a result of the food pyramid because most people who are obese don't follow the food pyramid in their dietary choices. Most people, in my experience, obese or not didn't even follow the food pyramid. Most people just eat what tastes good and don't follow any sort of strategy when it comes to deciding what they want to eat other than what they are craving. Also interesting is how an academic like him still fails hard at backing up his claims with actual evidence. We're just supposed to trust him and not question it. At least the government that he decries has the decency to cite research as to why things like the food pyramid are the way they are.

@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Flip that pyramid upside down and then that's about what everyone eats. Except, put the fruits and veggies at the very tip. So almost the literal opposite of what we're told to eat.

@stacyhuss9454 Жыл бұрын

True, about the only time I hear overweight people talk about the food pyramid is when they’re justifying eating pizza because it has “all of the categories on the pyramid”.😅

@richardcardinale7152 Жыл бұрын

@@suicune2001 if it was true the all starch complexe carbs will be at the top of the pyramid , meaning peoples eating really few carbs.. are you kidding me ?? That pyramid is correct , it is what people eat , healthy or not carbs are already what everyone eat .. and they are sick , you so dumb

@Meathead-10810 Жыл бұрын

I had to eat a vegan diet to become morbidly obese.

@graymyers Жыл бұрын

Yup and people don’t know how to cook for themselves

@py16667 Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the guy who only eats beef with salt in an effort to feel good yet is still clearly miserable in every way is totally qualified to debunk any & all nutrition professionals because he is exactly what we all should strive to be

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

If we desire to be a cloistered academic pontificating bullshit in front of firewood that we didn’t even chop in an effort to seem rugged, while being a frail, sad, angry, contempt filled tool, then yes. Strongly agree 😂

@VeganSemihCyprus33 Жыл бұрын

Watch the truth here 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

@tamcon72 Жыл бұрын

@@kamaliancirranoush1916 This is a tour de force of snark! Applause!

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

@@tamcon72 thanks. What can I say, the guy just inspires me! 🤣😎

@jeffk464 Жыл бұрын

Apparently he and his daughter have extreme allergies so they need a very limited diet. I had a dog like this, you really don't wan't to experiment with their diet.

@maxmontauk7281 Жыл бұрын

JP is so hard to endure - thank you for this Mic!

@martinjohnson4405 Жыл бұрын

I agree, JP's hard to endure; he comes off as quite angry and unhappy.

@rudestfusher585 Жыл бұрын

@johncrwarner Жыл бұрын

I was diagnosed as type 2 diabetic in 1998 I was overweight / obese I discovered the whole food plant based diet three years ago I have lost 40 kg (88 pounds) and have gone from taking pills to controlling it only through diet.

@johncrwarner Жыл бұрын

In Finland they had a problem with high heart attack rates and the government introduced "new recipes" and they were taught in schools and advertised Note these are not vegan recipes - but often reduce fatty meat, eggs and full fat milk. The net result is that the deaths from heart attacks have dropped significantly and folks my age (60 years old) and younger now cook the "new recipes" as standard.

@koloblicin Жыл бұрын

what you mean by "controlling" it? by eating a high carb low fat diet you could get rid of your type 2 completely. try eating a maximum of 10g of fat per day for 1-2 weeks and your bloodsugars should be like a healthy human. when your insulin receptors have recovered enough you can again eat more fat, just try keeping it below 10% of your daily calories. typ 2 is not really a disease, its more like a symptom of a diet too high in fat. i am typ 1 diabetic and i wish i had typ 2... good luck!

@salvagemonster3612 Жыл бұрын

Has more to do with cutting out junk food.

@johncrwarner Жыл бұрын

@@salvagemonster3612 Which is saying less added fat, salt and sugar I don't disagree that a WFPB diet means that for example this morning I had baked potatoes, homemade hummus and bean sprouts for breakfast

@z08840 Жыл бұрын

"I have lost 40 kg (88 pounds)" - oooh... so sory for you... plants aren't that nutritious - try to introduce some animal proteins and fats...

@starsaligninthesky Жыл бұрын

Thanks for fighting the good fight Mic.

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

Gosh. He is just insufferable. Kudos to you Mike for subjecting yourself to his unhinged narcissistic ramblings.

@VeganSemihCyprus33 Жыл бұрын

Watch the truth here 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

@Ariel-oo1nc Жыл бұрын

mmmm a second opinion 1. Cancer article cited from 2015 - lots of new data showing no risk for Red Meat 2. Methane-causing bacteria grow on Grass, and release the same total amount of Methane, which happens to be WHY grass-fed beef releases more methane ... you need to kill all the grass to reduce Methane emissions - in which case, Beef isn't the problem (Corn fed beef release 3x less Methane), its grass. 3. Deforestation has nothing to do with proper farming practices - dipping a bit deep into the 'trough' for that one - this monologue is about Health, not global warming. 4. Shame a person would read the screen (every reporter does) 5. Whole grains are mostly consumed by "health conscious" people which means lower overall fat (ie. Seed oils from processed foods) I stopped here at 5:56 because the disinformation is just a tad ridiculous

@jnewmark41 Жыл бұрын

MIke was VERY kind. Peterson is a very disturbed human. PAIFUL to listen to....

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

@@jnewmark41agreed, I have zero patience for and give no grace to grandiose blowhards like Peterson. Mike is a saint!

@richardcardinale7152 Жыл бұрын

@@jnewmark41 it's only painfull because it's challenge your beliefs, it's that simple.

@robertfazecash1450 Жыл бұрын

There is no shortage of ignorant people masquerading as an authority. Thank you Mic for giving the gullible an educated rebuttal so that they may be encouraged to not blindly follow.

@11kravitzn Жыл бұрын

"Arrogant ignoramus masquerading as authority" is a pretty good summary of Peterson.

@barbaraibiel Жыл бұрын

@@11kravitzn A pseudointellectual.

@rudestfusher585 Жыл бұрын

@PercivalBlakeney Жыл бұрын

@@barbaraibiel "Pseudointellectual"? Did someone call me? 😶

@barbaraibiel Жыл бұрын

@@rudestfusher585 There are 8 billion people in the world. You want 8 billion people to eat wild animals? How long do you think it would take before all wild animal species are wiped out? As it is, animal agriculture is causing mass extinction. Your diet is driving this planet to an ecological collpase.

@jordanjtbraun Жыл бұрын

To be honest, who really actually ate according to the food pyramid/food guide? I have a hard time thinking that the ¨food pyramid¨ is something that was used regularly enough to have had such an impact on things like body weight or diabetes. I tend to think that the majority of people simply do not think much about their diet and eat whatever they think tastes good.

@PercivalBlakeney Жыл бұрын

@Jordan Braun I'd suggest that even fewer people pay attention to the food pyramid as do to "The Highway Code". People have a resistance to Veganism as they do to "driving considerately". 😔

@thatsalt1560 Жыл бұрын

I'm from Sweden. Same pyramid, but much less heart disease and diabetes than in the US. We did the same as I suppose Americans did. We saw the food pyramid and thought "oh, look! a pyramid with food in it" and then we proceeded to eat as before, which is smaller portions, less deep fried food (none, fairly much) than Americans and less sugar. We also move a lot more. We bike and walk. This has nothing to do with the food pyramid.

@elizabethwalker7756 Жыл бұрын

exactly! Those people are obese because they adhered to the food pyramid? Most of them never eat any unprocessed veg or fruit. The closest most of them will get to that is chips!

@rudestfusher585 Жыл бұрын

@PercivalBlakeney Жыл бұрын

@@rudestfusher585 "«… but everyone else is doing it!!» stopped being an excuse for anything in my house, when I was ten years old." - Trey Gowdy.

@JL-zm6md Жыл бұрын

Maybe if we all sit down like aristocrats in front of a bunch of firewood and spout confirmation bias a bunch of meatflakes will give us money.

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

🎯

@teagoldleaf4137 Жыл бұрын

😁💯👍

@lisalisa4832 Жыл бұрын

🏅

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

Spot on.

@PercivalBlakeney Жыл бұрын

@J L That's a pretty clued up business model. Maybe I'm in the wrong line of occupation. 🤔

@ddhqj2023 Жыл бұрын

Canada just rewrote their food guide and made a point of not including the meat/dairy industry at the discussion table. So my understanding is the amount of meat recommended was decreased, while plant proteins were finally included. He's ignoring that entirely.

@barbaraibiel Жыл бұрын

Or maybe it made him mad and inspired him to make that video.

@ddhqj2023 Жыл бұрын

@@barbaraibiel That's possible because it seems like everything makes him mad.

@rudestfusher585 Жыл бұрын

@barbaraibiel Жыл бұрын

@carrionflowers6764 Жыл бұрын

canada is also being infiltrated by the WEF, no surprise!

@thebowandbullet Жыл бұрын

I always have to stifle laughter when Peterson calls *_others_* narcissists. 😆I can only hope most people are smart enough to see through his vain attempts at sounding intelligent.

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

Lack of self awareness is a hallmark of narcissists.

@jenerlee Жыл бұрын

You have more faith in humanity than I... 🙈

@bboywolf Жыл бұрын

Youre upset that the man actually is intelligent and popular. Just because his diet is trash doesnt mean youre more intelligent than him lmao

@VeganSemihCyprus33 Жыл бұрын

Watch the truth here 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

@jpe1 Жыл бұрын

@@bboywolf popular? You are confused with the word “notorious.” Peterson is notorious, not popular. Ask 100 people, “would you want to have Jordan Peterson to your house for dinner?” and see how “popular” he is.

@NORMLfan13 Жыл бұрын

Since he is a human mental health expert why didn’t he mention the bad effects that people who work in slaughterhouses experience up to and including murdering and chopping up people?

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

This! He’s so preoccupied with owning vegans he fails to consider the burden he puts on the people that he pays to kill animals for 8 hours straight. He’ll try to folk it up by making the job seem noble like the old tiMey butchers who had their little neighborhood shop and made a decent living. That is all in the past with mechanization and assembly lines. Now it is low paying, fast paced, dangerous and disease ridden. Not to mention most people working in the slaughter industry have basically zero other options to make money, so it’s not really a “choice” to do that work. Let him work a few shifts in a slaughterhouse and see how sustainable and necessary all that meat is. There are not enough benzos in the world to enable him to cope with slitting hundreds of cows throats a day.

@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын

Because then they can go to him for therapy. Duh! How else is he going to get paid? lol. Though, I wouldn't go to him for therapy. He seems like a terrible therapist.

@xnellyxs1 Жыл бұрын

because he is an idiot, that's why

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

@@suicune2001 he would probably talk about himself the whole time, just like when he has “interviews/conversations” on his channel. He gets these amazing guests (Dawkins for example) and then just talks the whole time about himself and what he thinks. He is so into his own voice.

@carinaekstrom1 Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@julieblair7472 Жыл бұрын

He's acting like the food pyramid was enforced door to door and the government dictated our meals. It was a diagram in pamphlets.

@FruityHachi Жыл бұрын

he’s so unhinged that he sees communism everywhere

@Jodamo Жыл бұрын

And hardly anyone actually followed

@steven5054 Жыл бұрын

No! It was enacted by the cabal of Postmodern Neo-Marxists! People were sent to the gulags! *crying*

@DoubleBob Жыл бұрын

So it didn't influence food at schools and other governmental bodies at all?

@beccaleigh7744 Жыл бұрын

@@DoubleBob Idk about now, but in the 90's, I was once served mashed potatoes with gravy, a white roll with butter, buttered corn, and a slice of cake as a public school lunch. It would be difficult to form a lunch closer to "practically 4 kinds of bread" than that. So, at minimum, the answer to your question is "not by mandate." I think Michelle changed that quite a bit.

@ddpwe5269 Жыл бұрын

I have roughly 70% carbs, everyday and my AC1 has never been more level!

@Nobody-Nowhere Жыл бұрын

I really like how they have brought in the bugs, no people use that as an excuse like if you dont eat meat you eat bugs.

@elizabethwalker7756 Жыл бұрын

I've heard people complain that it's vegans who are trying to persuade them to eat bugs! Meat eaters just panic at any threat to their choice to pay for the breeding, raising and killing of animals and the cognitive brain doesn't get a look in.

@PercivalBlakeney Жыл бұрын

@nobody nowhere Oh I'm like Lierre Keith. As a nutrient deficient Vegan, it's necessary for me to eat bugs all the time. There's nothing more appetising to me these days, like Papillon, than a juicy millipede. Yummy. 🤢

@bonesofanidol Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it's rooted in the misconception that plants aren't a good source of protein, so they think "we have to get our protein from somewhere!"

@barbaraibiel Жыл бұрын

Yeah, why eat bugs when we have beans? But maybe some meat eaters would prefer to eat bugs than beans.

@PercivalBlakeney Жыл бұрын

@@barbaraibiel They're lying. They just don't want to admit that the other side might have a point. They've been trained well by Joe Rogan, Jeremy Clarkson, Nigel sF4rage and others

@tonja4824 Жыл бұрын

Peterson's way of speaking, as if delivering Truth with a capital T from on high, has always rubbed me the wrong way. Btw - are we still using the food pyramid? I thought we had switched to the My Plate model. Edit: Mic answered my question. Should have watched the whole thing before commenting. XD

@varalys Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't be the first time Peterson was completely out of date. Guy worships Jung.

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

Right? When he first got in the public eye, I don't remember him being like that, I actually enjoyed him. Now, either the fame or the meds have fried his brain. I think it was the benzo episode, cause it went quickly downhill afterwards. He is drunk on his own words, he reminds me of a conman religious leader. He's hateful and doesn't look healthy at all, he's frail, one fall on the stairs and he's out.

@agnidas5816 Жыл бұрын

@@varalys if he actually did it would be great... a lil shadow work would do wonders

@sid35gb Жыл бұрын

7 years vegan still not dead.

@v.a.n.e. Жыл бұрын

please give up trying to reach your objective. there is always room for a fresh start. have faith in a better tomorrow!

@VeganSemihCyprus33 Жыл бұрын

Watch the truth here 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

@veganryori Жыл бұрын

16+ years vegan. Not only didn't I die I accidentally ran four marathons. When do I die of protein deficiency 🤣

@v.a.n.e. Жыл бұрын

@@veganryori a vegan and marathon runner. a perfect combination for getting diabetes. Prof. Tim Noakes would have a lot to say about that

@audiogarden21 Жыл бұрын

Same. April 20th, 2015.

@HakuCell Жыл бұрын

i guess he got confused about nutrition because he only felt better on a carnivore diet. but he should be more aware that just because the carnivore diet seems to work for him, it doesn't mean it's the best diet for the general population.

@Charlotte.4C Жыл бұрын

Carnivore diets work best for some animals, including animal humans (the ones with one foot still in the jungle) The rest of us, no so many... yet...., is out and evolving. They will come along once they done playing with, hurting and killing life.... for no reason at all.... Question is, do we want them, the "aware of what they're doing ones"... The Psychopaths 🥺 I'm not sure to be honest I'm hurt and mad by the stupidity and slow progress...

@squarz Жыл бұрын

It works so good that he went on a coma for months as a result of drugs and diet...

@richardcardinale7152 Жыл бұрын

@@squarz you said it .. medical drugs , nothing to do with diet 👌.

@deancooling3480 Жыл бұрын

Seemed to work for him? Let's check in a few years to see how he's going.

@thatsalt1560 Жыл бұрын

It really is as simple as that. I understand he has unusual health problems and I respect that he needs to find a way to deal with that, but I'm a normal person with "normal" DNA like most people. Why should I live like him?

@jackmichaelpeter Жыл бұрын

The thing is, when they said ‘grains’ on the food pyramid they didn’t mean donuts, cakes and only white bread. That’s what grains Americans eat generally. That doesn’t means grains are bad. Just means there are bad grains

@elizabethwalker7756 Жыл бұрын

exactly. If anyone actually looked at the food pyramid they probably interpreted the carbohydrates as refined starch (white flour, white rice, white pasta etc), as opposed to whole grains etc and as sugar (refined table sugar and products containing white sugar), as opposed to fruit.

@jackmichaelpeter Жыл бұрын

@@elizabethwalker7756 quite so, however the guidelines, if these rampant critics would actually read them, actually warn to limit refined carbohydrates!! So they don’t even recommend what they say they recommend

@elizabethwalker7756 Жыл бұрын

@@jackmichaelpeter well fancy that! The critics aren't even reporting the facts truthfully ...

@jackmichaelpeter Жыл бұрын

@@elizabethwalker7756 well I’m not 100% sure they clarified the distinction 20 or 30 years ago but they certainly do today

@Rosspark100 11 ай бұрын

But the issue is carbs will always be used as energy over fat so fat then gets stored. The issue isnt carbs and the issue isnt fat, the issue is eating lots carbs and lots of fat together because then you are just storing any fat you eat. I think high carb/low fat and low fat/high carb can both be incredibly beneficial if done correctly but large quantities of both will always cause obesity.

@WhyArentYouVegan Жыл бұрын

Thanl you for speaking up against this misinformation.

@andreawalker7138 Жыл бұрын

I don't know a lot of people, but I can assure you that the ones I do know do not reference the food pyramid when eating their meals. 🙄 I really appreciate that Mic not only shows us the research he uses, but also will mention any potential problems/bias with the data. Thanks, Mic!

@rnwbld Жыл бұрын

The truth is right there when Peterson used the term 'peasants'. People are so attached to their meats because they think plants (and insects) are the food of poor people from poor countries. It's a status thing. Except for avocados! These people lose their minds over elitists who eat avocados.

@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@sirwizalot7164 Жыл бұрын

It's the same with cars.... i _do_ love avocado though, cartels and oceanic voyages be damned !

@11235Aodh Жыл бұрын

It's why dr. McDougall couldn't get his asian patients to eat brown rice. It's for peasants, white rice only!

@ASMRyouVEGANyet Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I caught that one too. And he made a statement like "we as a sovereign people" framing it as a "Marxist communist" issue, which his viewers are also ignorant about...

@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын

@@11235Aodh LOL! Yep. People will find a way to be elitist about anything.

@TangoMasterclassCom Жыл бұрын

Great V-action, thanks!!

@ASMRyouVEGANyet Жыл бұрын

"Narcissists of compassion"... narcissists aren't compassionate.

@familysung9869 Жыл бұрын

Love you Mic 🎤 thanks for dispelling lies

@panes840 Жыл бұрын

JP, needs to read the book titled, 'The World Peace Diet', by Will Tuttle PhD . It's a book I had on my shelf for nearly a year and regretted not reading it sooner. I think EVERYONE should read it. As a vegan for 6 years, some stuff in it I already knew (i.e., how animalsxsuffer and why and why plants are awesome for health) but it blew my mind in terms of how such practices from Iraq from 1000s of years ago led us to where we are now, culturally with the obsession of enslaving animals and you can see the link between this and oppression in society with the feminine and racism too. Its routes to building capitalism was astonishing.. It's utterly mind blowing. Brilliant read. Educate yourself JP.

@coraltitan6225 Жыл бұрын

He's talking a lot about narcissists. But I think that he IS a narcissist.

@flyingfig12 Жыл бұрын

🎯

@jelatinosa Жыл бұрын

His sort love to project.

@sirwizalot7164 Жыл бұрын

most people are high in certain limited kinds of narcissism and those will be exaggerated if fame and wealth are attained.

@kristinbrandt9031 Жыл бұрын

Right??

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

He probably thinks that he's just telling the truth. He's so full of himself and that's hubris.

@greensmoothieparty Жыл бұрын

A Fatally Flawed Food Guide: by Luise Light (USDA Nutritionist)

@kathivy Жыл бұрын

“The woke narcissists of compassion…” Now people are “woke” because of what they eat? Terrible thing to be compassionate too. He always seems like such a miserable man. You make a good point about industry advertising driving our eating habits. The government’s pyramid guide would have been much healthier if people had followed those suggestions rather than choosing the Big Macs and fries that industry recommends eating.

@clairenelman6247 Жыл бұрын

Ah man! I’m going to have to make a t-shirt with that on it! 😂

@RawVeganAthleteAndreas Жыл бұрын

Thanks as always for your work. Can't say it often enough ;)

@carlosmoreira8835 Жыл бұрын

Top of the food pyramid: apple cider and impending sense of doom

@alevieirareis Жыл бұрын

Hey, Mic. Because of you I haven't been eating meat anymore.

@v.a.n.e. Жыл бұрын

unbelievable... do you plan to get revenge on him in some way? maybe a lawsuit or something similar?

@yourlocallesbian6448 Жыл бұрын

@@v.a.n.e. wat 😂

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

Awesome! 👍🏻

@v.a.n.e. Жыл бұрын

@@yourlocallesbian6448 well, It's pretty clear that he holds Mic responsible for cessation of meat consumption, I would ask for compensation in his place

@yourlocallesbian6448 Жыл бұрын

@@v.a.n.e. are ok?? Do you need help

@VeganSemihCyprus33 Жыл бұрын

The "livestock" industry should let him have bigger letters on the screen next time, he is squinting his eyes too much to be able to read that propaganda.

@vioheubach3112 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@anthonydude Жыл бұрын

The rise of obesity has absolutely nothing to do with the rise of consumer capitalism. Nothing whatsoever, got it?

@lenoraaronel8542 Жыл бұрын

Did he say something about meat being affordable? I work for a lady as a domestic manager and I had to take a piece of meat out of the freezer to defrost. It was a beef roast and they have at least one a week. I noticed it was $80 which is my entire food bill for two people for a week, I almost fainted how do people afford to eat like that?

@Alexander-qy7yz Жыл бұрын

Some people are rich and/or prioritise eating what they enjoy more than others. Here in Spain you can get beef for about 2.37$ per pound (4.90€/kg). Which would be about 34 pounds of meat for 80$(roughly 17kgs). That would last you a while, don’t you think?

@lenoraaronel8542 Жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-qy7yz you definitely cannot buy Canadian beef here for under three dollars a pound. In fact, I think that ground beef is about four dollars Canadian a pound that is as far as I know the cheapest cut steaks are about $20 a pound.

@pixieskitty Жыл бұрын

Old man yells at outdated pyramid!

@emil5884 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad but also not too surprised to find my vegan friends on the reasonable side of Jordan Peterson. I was getting a little uncomfortable at the thought of having to launch another sharp critique against the buffoon in the comments section here because I'm a bit sick of being portrayed as a woke, sjw, soyboy snowflake (long hair is communism) etc. etc. etc. so for everyone else who already did that, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

@NoExitLoveNow Жыл бұрын

My understanding is that although the food pyramid had fat and meat at the top, Americans did not in fact actually eat less fat and meat.

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

Of course. Plus all those carbs that he complains about come drenched in fat. Eat all thebread and potatoes without the oil and you'll be better off than eating all fries and hamburgers.

@justjane1639 Жыл бұрын

Americans have been eating way less meat and saturated fat since the fifties.

@NoExitLoveNow Жыл бұрын

@@justjane1639 No. Citation required.

@branthomas1621 Жыл бұрын

@@justjane1639 They eat a lot of unhealthy fried carbs that spike insulin levels. Eating fat is good for you, fat stores a lot of vitamins and they are easily digested turned into energy.

@sergeantbigmac 11 ай бұрын

@@justjane1639 For real I remember looking at an image of rationed food during WWII, it was a picture of the allotted amount per person per week, and there was a lot I mean a lot of milk, butter, and red meat. AND THAT WAS THE RATIONED AMOUNT DURING THE LARGEST WAR IN HUMAN HISTORY! HOW the food is prepared is a large component of this equation we are missing while everyone is focused on the WHAT. Back then going out to eat was extremely rare, vast majority of meals were home cooked from scratch. I remember my Grandfather talking about the 1950s and how going out to a 'burger joint' was seen as like a big treat you did once a month max... Convenience foods? Whats that?

@AnHourOfWolves Жыл бұрын

Additionally, adherence to the food guide is ridiculously low. This guy is an embarrassment to Canada to be honest. Thanks for posting, enjoyed the content!

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

This point is glossed over way too often. Do the people suffering poor health actually adhere to the guidelines? My guess is a resounding NO.

@VeganSemihCyprus33 Жыл бұрын

Watch the truth here 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

@tamcon72 Жыл бұрын

@@VeganSemihCyprus33 Please stop spamming.

@Azarilh Жыл бұрын

@@kamaliancirranoush1916 In real life i know zero people that follow the guidelines. I think most people don't even know what they are. lmao

@kamaliancirranoush1916 Жыл бұрын

@@Azarilh to be fair I don’t either lol.

@valericaskey2540 Жыл бұрын

Great job Mic. Loved your responses to his oration.

@drexeldragon1723 Жыл бұрын

The first time JP says, "diabetes," I though how funny it would've been if you popped in a quick image of the guy from the Liberty Mutual commercial. Then the next time he says it, boom, diabeetus cat! Lmao.

@audiogarden21 Жыл бұрын

Wilford Brimley.

@vietnamd0820 Жыл бұрын

How can anyone take Peterson seriously when he can’t even pronounce “diabetes” correctly? 😂

@lucasbleyle5015 Жыл бұрын

His hyper-intellectualized way of speaking makes him sound like a teenager with a thesaurus. It's almost like a skit, or someone used AI to write the video script, but the AI was only trained on clips of professors in movies. It's almost painful to hear.

@WaddyMuters Жыл бұрын

This whole argument hinges on the absurd assumption that people actually deeply meditate on government food recommendations and consult the food pyramid for their daily dietary purchase decisions. They don’t. Literally nobody does. Most people just buy what tastes good to them.

@davidsthoughts60 Жыл бұрын

Peterson is the Kardashian of nutrition. I’ll continue listening to Drs. Esselstyn, Klaper, Greger, Barnard, Campbell, and others, thank you very much.

@branthomas1621 Жыл бұрын

I like Dr Pradip Jamnadas, have you looked into "fasting for survival"? I highly recommend it.

@chelleec23 Жыл бұрын

I'm torn between saying good response and how dare you inflict him upon us lol

@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын

LOL!

@lynnritchie231 Жыл бұрын

LOL no. 2........

@kelz_2247 Жыл бұрын

What does that black fist represent?

@Alejandr01836 Жыл бұрын

@@kelz_2247 it's a symbol used by the black lives matter movement and organization that grew in popularity after a junkie and robber in Minneapolis overdosed in police custody.

@ordohereticus3427 Жыл бұрын

The only thing Jordan Peterson has destroyed is the minds of many alienated and highly impressionable youngsters with his reactionary dogma and anti-intellectual demagogic rants.

@thegratefulsteve Жыл бұрын

Damn straight!

@anulfolantigua940 Жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson is so delusional.

@VeganSemihCyprus33 Жыл бұрын

Watch the truth here 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

@davidthescottishvegan Жыл бұрын

That's obvious and he is also naive.

@squarz Жыл бұрын

He went on a coma because of his stupidity and changed nothing

@richardcardinale7152 Жыл бұрын

🤦😂

@sense_maker1816 Жыл бұрын

I love how Jordan Peterson criticizes others for virtue signaling when that is literally all he does.

@tofuneverbleeds Жыл бұрын

He gives me Neil Degrasse Tyson vibes. What a joke 😂

@kdesign73 Жыл бұрын

Saw Peterson's video and it reminded me of my childhood growing up in the USSR and watching black and white film archives of Lenin and Stalin propaganda... oh my...

@xoxnessieyy Жыл бұрын

I struggle to trust people who try to garner trust by stringing together a lot of "big words" in one sentence to appear sophisticated and learned. I think he threw trust and cohesion out the window when he decided that "big words" was the way to go to present his beliefs 😵‍💫😵‍💫

@ddpwe5269 Жыл бұрын

Well, if he continues on the path that animals are best, he won't be around for long enough to keep promoting it for decades. Silver lining? =P

@LML1248 Жыл бұрын

we need shirts that say “plants and bugs for you, peasants” 😂

@ddpwe5269 Жыл бұрын

With his level of education, you'd think that he would notice when he's being a hypocrite. Oh wait, he's a narcissist, he'll never see. smh

@thegratefulsteve Жыл бұрын

He gets paid to push the narratives he does.

@ASMRyouVEGANyet Жыл бұрын

12:46 he wants to frame it as an authority issue. using that term "sovereign" is a trigger word for his audience. They like to see themselves as highly thinking, unique individuals.

@FreedomPhilosophyTV Жыл бұрын

Veganism is pretty much libertarianism for animals.

@derbybOyzZ Жыл бұрын

non-aggression principle 100%

@justjane1639 Жыл бұрын

Except the ones getting gassed and dismembered in agricultural operations.

@hektor6766 Жыл бұрын

@@justjane1639 Or exterminated by habitat loss.

@hektor6766 Жыл бұрын

@@derbybOyzZ Passive aggression principle 100%

@FreedomPhilosophyTV 6 ай бұрын

@@justjane1639 are vegans doing or advocating that?

@weddingdjrobsoundz1042 Жыл бұрын

Great, thorough video again as usual. Thanks Mic for your always amazing content!

@user-yn5sk5ru5g Жыл бұрын

He talks with so much conviction it almost seems convincing. But in reality he knows fak all about many topics he talks about

@signmeupruss 11 ай бұрын

Peterson is the perfect example for why we should always be suspicious of those who speak over confidently and with showmanship. Peterson is an entertainer, in his lectures, in his writing, in his videos and in his public appearances.

@sergiorocha76 Жыл бұрын

I actually like JP but yea I wouldnt take nutritional advise from him

@yourlocallesbian6448 Жыл бұрын

Same

@thegratefulsteve Жыл бұрын

You like a bigoted ignoramus who is a social media star because he is good at triggering liberals. He's a clown. A character that helps conservative Christians feel justified in their intolerance.

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

I used to like him, but he is becoming more and more delusional. He thinks he's an expert on everything and chooses misleading arguments to reach pre-existing conclusions. Plus, he behaves like he's the second coming of Jesus. No one is infallible, being more humble would do him good.

@reaperkollyns6495 Жыл бұрын

I think his diet preaching really harms his other input which I think is quite good ie speech, mens' issues, etc

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

@@reaperkollyns6495 I, for myself, would say that it WAS good input.

@SteelPanda220 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’m not listening to Peterson. 😂

@OneWithManyThings Жыл бұрын

Why is he squinting so much? Dude needs a carrot

@carlosmoreira8835 Жыл бұрын

What an embarrassment this guy is

@Vegan_Ape_2018 Жыл бұрын

Jordan "it depends what you mean by" Peterson is a clown.

@danh5637 Жыл бұрын

It’s hard to take someone who preaches total personal responsibility and harboured a secret benzo addiction to be treated seriously on health matters!

@elephantintheroom5678 Жыл бұрын

Doctors prescribe benzos to anxious people that trust them, and it is notoriously hard to break a dependency on them which can happen in as little as a month.

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

@@elephantintheroom5678 Meat was supposed to be the cure all for him. That was the whole point of him promoting meat consumption, the fact that it was helping his mental health. Well, it appears that meat wasn't that good a medicine, but now he just wants to eat it to spite people. lol

@danh5637 Жыл бұрын

@@elephantintheroom5678 yes but this information is known. Also a doctor will only prescribe them for a very short period because of this. The problem here is this is a man who has built a career out of condescending to people about them taking the maximum personal responsibility, that everything is under their control. If he hadn’t of been that person. I wouldn’t have any criticism of him and possibly sympathy. But he’s basically a hypocrite.

@danh5637 Жыл бұрын

@@mihaelam8339 my understanding was his addiction was so deep he had to go to Russia to receive a treatment involving him being put in an induced coma until he became physically unhooked from it. He of course kept this top secret whilst he was addicted and telling people to pull up their bootstraps and clean their room on arena stages all around the world. And that meat is a miracle drug. But hey.

@elephantintheroom5678 Жыл бұрын

@@danh5637 He's definitely a hypocrite. However, your claim that doctors only prescribe benzodiazepines for short periods isn't true in practice. I know someone who has been prescribed them for years, and can't get off them, because they destroy your own bodies ability to make its own feel good chemicals. Doctors prescribe this, off label, for insomnia all the time.

@user-yn5sk5ru5g Жыл бұрын

The food pyramid isnt great, but if people actually ate like that the world would be a lot yealthier

@watch-Dominion-2018 Жыл бұрын

Jordan says he hates narcissism and authoritarianism, but his doctrine is "I like meat", and "animals belong in factory farms"

@mcfaddenhall2896 Жыл бұрын

I love how he acts like anyone ever actually paid attention to the food pyramid.

@carinaekstrom1 Жыл бұрын

Of course they did, it was enforced by the Gestapo (sarcasm).

@mihaelam8339 Жыл бұрын

He's reaching for thin air. Sometimes GOVERNMENT BAD, sometimes GOVERNMENT GOOD and he knows when.

@michaeld4861 Жыл бұрын

I must have missed where the bugs were on the meat pyramid, I mean food pyramid. Perhaps this crying aristocrat can enlighten us.

@deancooling3480 Жыл бұрын

In oriental diagnosis, creases at the point between between the eyebrows relates to a congested liver. This arises from excessive fat consumption, alcohol, over eating, and other extremes.

@justjane1639 Жыл бұрын

Or maybe benzodiazepine poisoning.

@fidelkva4810 Жыл бұрын

why does he just say untrue things? the ability of people to convince themselves of these things is mindblowing.

@fidelkva4810 Жыл бұрын

@Jodie Masterson that recommendations for whole grains were actually followed by americans and it made them fat and sick

@raphil.532 Жыл бұрын

Great Veaction! Really sad, that he is so influential with this.

@stavokg Жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing the work you do. This video is excellent.

@doncasto8520 Жыл бұрын

Obviously that even though the government is "telling us what to eat" people are ignoring it. I don't understand his rant.

@sixaethereal5011 Жыл бұрын

Sick instrument wall! give us a tour!

@GoFredBananass Жыл бұрын

Good work Mike. Yeah JP.... providing his unqualified opinion on things he has no business doing so.

@bgrune1 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to know what you really think about Dr. Rao's position paper since I notice you don't cite it or talk about it ever since you interviewed him that I know of.

@verasyoutubechannel6029 Жыл бұрын

Can you go through your instrument collection some time? That white guitar (?) is super cool wowow wee wa 😍

@anotherthez7598 Жыл бұрын

I've been avoiding anything that comes with that name attached, but hey, I couldn't miss this one, oh man oh boy oh s*it. Wow, thanks Mikey.

@afeudale Жыл бұрын

As a Canadian, I apologize for anyone having to listen to Jordan Peterson

@eric-jr2nf Жыл бұрын

It's hard for me to say, but apology accepted.

@MagnumCarta Жыл бұрын

As an American, I apologize for our deplorables as well.

@thatsalt1560 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed him before he got sick. I think the debate was interesting. But now he seems confused and almost demented? He's lost it almost entirely.

@cainen6355 Жыл бұрын

@@thatsalt1560 same. He had some constructive thoughts and social criticisms at the beginning of his public persona but now he seems to have chosen to be a literal modern super villain.

@AbsolutelyPeter Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂👍

@bopsap.gammazape Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's completely lost it and ready to check into an asylum at this point 💀

@impressions9558 Жыл бұрын

I am the only vegan of my ciblings, and the oldest. They get to eat plentt of meat and they do have diabetes and 2 went through cancer and 1 sadly died. According to his logic, I should be the overweight one and dead by now.

@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын

Yep. Out of my siblings, I'm the only one who lost weight. The rest have gotten fatter and one even had what he calls "a heart episode" where his heart stopped for 2 minutes. But he swears he's in perfect health. >_

@roku3216 Жыл бұрын

Well you heard the man. Get to eating those bugs! (Actually a soil gnat landed in my coffee while I was drinking, and I accidentally swallowed it, so I guess that counts.)

@Shoot4AlarmFire Жыл бұрын

Liked and shared! Such a good response to a man who really should stop masquerading as a nutritionist!

@scispiracy Жыл бұрын

Blue hair sparkles...loving it! More please ; ]

@steppingahead9231 Жыл бұрын

Does that guitar on the wall work? The one with holes on the body

@webofstarlight Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mic!

@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын

Why is Jordan reacting to the food pyramid? Didn't the 2020 USDA Dietary Guidelines use the My Plate method?

@sdsa007 Жыл бұрын

I just learned from a George Monbiot book-promo-lecture ('Regenesis') about intensive (grain-fed) vs extensive (grass-fed, more land) agricultural land use... and wondering what the vegan techno-ethic solution is for land use; would it be more extensive than grass-fed? If it is, than can a techno-ethic solution be hydroponics, or urban gardening, indoor gardening?

@steppingahead9231 Жыл бұрын

Are you using a green screen for this video? You have some blue sparks on you headphones. I first thought the blurs where part of the set, but then I noticed they appeared on your hear and around your face

@Yayyyyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын

I have to say that him and Joe Rogan definitely have a bleak outlook on life and its probably due to not having enough carbs and eating way too much meat.

@swedneck Жыл бұрын

I'd honestly like to see studies comparing fibre intake to how miserable and scornful people are. I have to imagine that shitting so healthily that you barely need to wipe must improve your outlook on things at least somewhat..

@yourlocallesbian6448 Жыл бұрын

J P doesn't have a bleak out look on life, I would say he's pretty optimistic

@jelatinosa Жыл бұрын

@@yourlocallesbian6448 that's why he's always crying that people are turning away from god?

@jaminwaite3867 Жыл бұрын

JP hates his diet but he’s said it’s the only ones that “works for him”

@yourlocallesbian6448 Жыл бұрын

@@jelatinosa why do you feel the need to insult someone's religion? Your the one with a bleak world view, judging people for personal believe they can't control

@tewtravelers9586 Жыл бұрын

I'm not a vegan but any enemy of Jordy is a friend of mine. You make many good points, by the way.

@yoyoyooo4735 Жыл бұрын

You here that every day, but i strongly appreciate your work. Its kinda filtering already a lot of work for me to find these studies. Not sure if you are interested but is it possible to get another maybe even longer more detailed video with "Dr. Sailesh Rao" about climate change? That was the most interesting video i have watched so far.

@mikecheq45 7 ай бұрын

You did exactly what you accused Jordan Peterson of in citing the government but then saying ‘oh well the government are in bed with the meat industry’ when something didn’t suit your agenda.

@timhanser1943 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mick . No thought whatsoever for the horrific condition the poor animals endure inside those hell houses . Keep smiling . Much appreciated.

@katiesdumbvideos5418 Жыл бұрын

Mr. Libertarian who thinks all corporations should be able to do whatever the fuck they want is complaining about corporations doing whatever they want via lobbying 🤔