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Maybe at first, but I think it's actually very depressing... 😓

Not sure store bought vegetables are healthy and not sure if you just eat plant matter you can get sufficient variety from stores, though.

@@brucejensen3081 🤦

Lots of dumb people out there who continue to deny science. 🙄

Palm oil most sustainable oil. More yield and less land use.

The science literally says the opposite. People will choose ignorance rather than making themselves uncomfortable.

@@astonuk9403 and it's not planted in the amazon,

Palm oil is just a distraction. If a significantly larger proportion of people gave up their meat addiction then no forests would need to be cleared anywhere for any new oil plantations.

Unfortunately, this is a reaction I have come across very frequently and it is completely uncalled for. Did you get the impression that you could just have said "you're a terrible person because you eat meat" and get exactly the same reaction?

Yeah the dudes criticizing the funding immediately cited papers written by cholesterol denial book authors.

ironically, it IS for profit, AND at the expense of your health. Double whammy!🤣

The vegan diet is unhealthy. Why would anyone trust a comapany telling them to stop eating health meat and eat unhealthy fake vegan meat from a lab? It is only about profit and getting ppl sick of lab slop, just to sell them supplements and drugs WHEN(not if) they get deficient and sick. It is literally not about science and all about profit.

@@MictheVegan Who are you calling cholesterol deniers? No one denies cholesterol. Having cholesterol is not a disease. Your body produces most of it. When you fast for 3 days, your LDL shoots up. Why the hell would your body all of the sudden give you heart disease? LMAO.

why would i trust a documentary that misinterprets information and delivers fake news to people to try to make them eat only plants?

Meat-eaters are selfish.

Ah, but you're biased! hahahahahaah! Sorry, couldn't help it. I don't know, perhaps it is just me, but I get the impression that there is an increasing trend of "if I don't like it, then it is not true", followed by "anyone who says what I don't want to hear, is a liar/biased/mean/malicious/delusional. And anyone who says what I want to hear is a good person." Basically, facts and reality do not seem to matter to too many people.

They, people who seem credible and professional also say the southern border of the USA is closed.🤔🤪🙄 Just a tiny food for thought. Or the president is full of vigor and is the most transparent person ever in that position.😂 Ever see Binder talk her nonsense on TV? Don't believe most people in either direction of this topic. Just eat natural food that was around 15,000 years ago and most people would thrive. And for example most but not all fruits and vegetables weren't available back then. And yes, Bacon wasn't around back then either.🤔🤫😉😇 I never have seem an animal eat a seasoned brisket or fried Buffalo wings either.🤔🤭

@@annerigby4400 It's quite funny. The vegans will dismiss a study by stating the scientists involved or the funding was "carnist" . And then, they don't apply that same standard to their own studies and question motivations. In addition, they fall for documentaries. As if documentaries are the same as a well-planned and peer reviewed scientific study. This is religious thinking. And they're not vegans. They're just medicalizing the lifestyle/moral system of veganism. They're not even medical experts or have any real world experience with people's health other than their own. They think because they thrive, all other people will thrive. Yeah.. a load of people tried veganism and it didn't work out for them. it wasn't because they didn't try or apply the rules. They were killing themselves but the vegan zealots don't see that medical room.

​@@Jason-cz3bvyou at too, you don't eat meat to feel good yourself, you don't do it for the animals 😂 you do it to not feel guilty, so selfish aswell...

"great research"... Lol, is that a joke? if you actually want to open your mind and learn something , i have a playlist on my channel called "veganism debunked".

@@DanteLikesRock I found a video made by an MD who made remarkably inaccurate claims about the history of humans and their food. I don't know if this is one of the people to whom you've listened, but many of his facts were wrong and his reasoning bizarre. Please be careful. I know we went back and forth on this under a different comment, but he is wrong, and it will cause harm to people. Just a fraction of the dangerous nonsense: 'Plants don't want us to eat them', and so they try to kill us, etc. Of course plants, like all living things, have defense mechanisms. Unfortunately for them, we (along with many other mammals) have adapted alongside them, and gain from their attempts. Actually, the often minor toxins found in edible plants place mild stress on our cells that makes them far more resilient to disease. This process is called hormesis, and is likely a large part of why consuming plants is in fact healthful for us (Mattson et al, Scientific American, 2015 July). North America had no plant food except berries and Jer. artichokes prior to European arrival. False. I live near proof of this, where the Serrano people ground flour and meal from various nuts, seeds and grassy plants on large rocks in our local mountains. Pinon nuts, and at lower altitudes honey mesquite pods, cacti, yucca root and a wide variety of other plant edibles were available. 'None of the fruits and vegetables we eat today were available more than' ....here the number changes from roughly 600 years to over 1000, depending on what he is talking about. False. We have hybrids, of course, but that happens in nature too. The plants we have now, at least the ones we have modified, are still classified with their 'parent' plants, as they are genetic descendants (and therefore not 'completely new and unheard of'). There are many large classes of plants from which we can take appropriate nutrition. Plants change over time, regardless of human interference. We are able to, and benefit greatly from, eating them because we were originally fruit eaters, who adapted to also including leafy plants in our diet. There are quite a few other dangerous statements. Let me know if I should continue. Doctors are not biologists, anthropologists or highly trained nutrition scientists. My aunt is an MD, and admits freely that they had only 85 minutes of training, exclusively on common vitamins and minerals, and focused on the effects of deficiency. They were never required to take in-depth courses on the complexity of human nutrition, or the tens of thousands of plant compounds on which we depend for good health. I know we don't know each other, but you said things that were almost verbatim to what this ignorant doctor said. Please investigate beyond the black hole of YT, and try to avoid confirmation bias. I wish you well.

@@mountaingirl1753 I already came to my own conclusion awhile ago that plants aren't all bad, the phenomenon of hormesis is also interesting, as I've been learning about it recently. Many in the keto/carnivore space seem to be very monochromatic in their thinking, which is hardly what human nutrition science is. Though I still believe that humans need an animal-based diet for optimal health. Rough figures are perhaps 70% animal foods, 20% fruit, 10% green vegetables. Something like that.

@@DanteLikesRock I understand that you want to believe that this movement is correct, and your willingness to be more flexible than those who are, as you nicely put it, "monochromatic in their thinking" is admirable. We all cling to our perspectives, world views and beliefs, including me ( I strive for absolute objectivity at work, but probably fail from time to time without realizing it ). Please consider the objective truth in this statement before rejecting it: "Anatomy trumps everything, including beliefs and food preferences. Anatomical features are observable facts. They objectively show the types of foods we and other creatures evolved to eat, and thereby thrive on." (Comparative Anatomy...Mills, 2019). I am not a vegan. That is an ethical / political stance. I eat as a primate, specifically a great ape, as that is how humans are classified. Ideally, I would ingest the occasional insect or small critter along with the abundant variety of fruit and greens that compose 85 - 99% of my diet, but rather than insects I sometimes eat some fish or egg, perhaps a few times per year, usually in very small garnish-like quantity (egg mixed into a small serving of potato salad, etc.). I do not for a moment believe those tiny, rare bits of animal product are beneficial, rather they are similar to a monthly potato chip. Not good for me, but in such a tiny quantity as to be inconsequential. It is understandable how people, men in particular, think that 'carnivore' is more masculine. Women seem to think they are more tough and independent on it. Some individuals suffer from species envy, and want to be what they are not. Herbivores can eat very small amounts of meat (deer have been observed doing this, but it by no means makes them an omnivore or carnivore). Nature doesn't draw hard lines, she works in narrow zones of grey. I would like to see one of these angry and irrational human carnivore pretenders take on a plant-eating gorilla, or chimpanzee. There is no shame in being in the ape family. We don't need to pretend we are among the big cats. I hope you eventually sift through the vast and growing sea of misinformation, both silly carnist ideas that benefit only meat and feed producers, and weird unscientific vegan ones that promote limited, sometimes almost single food plant diets, not so that you agree with me, but so you can better understand your own primate biology to your health benefit. If you were to reverse the ratio to 70% plant foods, the species-appropriateness would be tremendously improved (to be spot-on, that 30% would be insects and small critters, not overly large ones like modern cattle).

@@guitarszen I agree, humans are frugivorous herbivores. Besides fruit, frugivorous apes usually eat all kinds of plants, nuts, seeds, roots, tubers, shoots, bark, leaves, as well as insects and small animals sometimes.

@@guitarszen wow, really? So why are you taking B12 pills...? Humans are carnivores as they can survive only on meat.

​@@guitarszen 💯% correct.

@@carinaekstrom1 We have forward looking eyes with great depth and colour vision. Perfect for being in the trees looking for ripe fruits. I always ask carnies where they think we got such great colour vision for, cave paintings?

@@11235Aodh Absolutely, and our whole digestive system is built for mainly plants. That's why we have such a hard time getting rid of excess cholesterol, etc. And as far as cave paintings, of course they would paint people challenging big animals, it's not like anyone would find it dramatic enough to paint someone picking berries or digging for roots. Those paintings say nothing about how often it was done or how successful it was. If it wasn't a great challenge and just an everyday thing, they probably wouldn't find it exciting enough to paint it.

repeat the study with people who were already vegan vs. Carnivores. I would LOVE to see that, too bad it won't happen.

Those who want it can eat meat, those who don't want don't eat it

​@SadullahDemirkaya the issue is those eating meat get more chronic illnesses stressing the medical system. That's a huge issue in Canada where I live. And meat eating is directly linked to climate change, biodiversity loss, pollution, acidification, antibiotic overuse, pandemics etc. That impacts me, not just you. You can't dump chemicals in the water, there are regulations to protect the community. This is an issue for all of us - eating meat should be regulated but no politician will do the right thing. I think your insistence on choice is selfish and misguided

Wow so cool! looking at that right now

Good for her!!! ❤

Liked that she exposed Ken Berry for not responding to her inquiries but Dr Esselstyn did. In fact Berry was so triggered he just made a short saying carnivores' arteries are clean as a whistle. Man is shameless.

Any links to that you can hook us up with?

WOW I NEED TO PIN A COMMENT ON MY ORIGINAL VID!

if only you knew the harm you were doing to yourself, sadly it is a phase one has to go through in order to find the truth.

That’s wonderful to hear. Not only are you in good health, but you save taxpayers thousands of dollars in healthcare costs, so there’s a community benefit, as well. I think countries would do well to incentivise plant based eating, as there are so many personal and societal benefits.

@@user-no2mz9hl4f no. the opposite is true.

@@DanteLikesRock no, the opposite is true. 🤡

@@DanteLikesRock what harm exactly ? pretty much every scientiest disgrees with you

Right ? They never do and always criticise others

that money from $beyond meat$ was really handy @@imhassane

@@imhassane hey hey, anecdotal claims tho, science is clearly lying, Plant-Based food is clearly the richest industry in the world, we give all of our tax money to them, they are clearly controlling all the media and science studies, they are just lying constantly in order to force us to eat more plants that will kill us, the only real truth is people on the internet telling you how great they feel on carnivore diet with no studies to back it up

@@imhassane sorry we don't have corporations trying to make money on carnivore yet to fund those studies :P

@@shellderp False. It’s been the same story for many low carb diets. No studies on it but people follow them and even when the funding was available they chose not to do studies on it, best example is Atkins.

No, just not comfortable with people challenging their addiction!

People only like hearing good news about their bad habits

And people are especially uncomfortable when science supports that something they don't wanna do is healthy lol. So they start denying science 😅

I think it's much more often vegans complaining about the diet of others and trying to convert omnivores to veganism than the other way around.

​@@cyberfunk3793Yeah, because vegans care about other things like animals, the environment and health, not just taste pleasure. Look at most of these people - Fat and sick.

Awesome, enjoy!

Amazing! You will not regret it!

I have never met a carnivore in real life. Know plenty that I would consider eat too much meat. They are a very loud minority. I go for moderation, I would think getting a bit much protein is better than not enough, especially in the elderly, which is what attia is going on about

Mic has a recent video on the psychology of anti vegans, it's extremely interesting

It's simple, just follow your nature and eat what you are designed to eat as human. And that's meat only, actually. You can't die doing that.

no no no... if you want another perspective other than what you've been told by mainstream "nutrition experts"... i have a science-based playlist on my channel called "veganism debunked".

This is how I got my partner to turn. I asked him to try it for 1 month, and he felt so much better at the end of that month he decided to stick to it. That was 5 or 6 years ago.

I do distance running. Friends are always asking how the heck I manage it. I tell them, consistent training and diet!! Some listen but most want to be ignorant. Rich Roll is a great roll model.

role model, get it ??

They did it genius, because lots of people who go vegan don't want to give up the foods they love overnight, you have to give them times to transition, the junk foods are to help them move to a healthier diet over time

Yes - vegan fake meats, crackers and dips, etc. Helped me transition to a whole food plant based diet with more whole foods.

fully agree with you. it was strange that instead promoting whole food plant based diet, lots of attention was towards "how to engineer plant based product, which tastes and looks like meat". I am not a professional of course, but those meat, cheese substitutes do not look to me like a whole foods.

@@ZmogusJaponija it's a stepping stone to better plant-based food.

A commercial for processed food? We must have watched a different documentary. The story of the restaurant is indeed very relevant, because if Michelin star restaurants (the peak of European gastronomy) can change, so can smaller establishments.

She's a joke! And the many people posting on her FB page about this were really ludicrous!

for any open-minded vegans here who want another perspective other than what you've been told by mainstream "nutrition experts"... i have a science-based playlist on my channel called "veganism debunked".

Also like... who else is going to fund it? Ladies' Foot Locker? Penguin Books? Of course it's going to be people who would benefit from the predictable results lol

@@DanteLikesRockyou’re part of the social media establishment. You can’t be trusted.

Great point! Minds do change based on diet. Myelin Sheath - the stuff used to line and protect your nerves are made of Cholesterol. If you were to guess which diet reduces myelin sheath in the nerves and brain, which one would you choose?

Calories means nothing in nutrition. It is an observation in physics, a construct of an energy model. Calories has no weight nor mass, it is not dense and you cannot weigh calories on a scale. It is a useless metric.

​@@Ariel-oo1nc What's up with your riddle? I know my previous diet of high cholesterol caused a lot of health issues. I am very grateful for having reduced my cholesterol on a vegan diet. I learned I can eat more calories without cholesterol and build muscle. I feel you want to make a point about cholesterol being an important part of brain function. I agree but my body creates enough for me to be a professional engineer and reducing any extra cholesterol from outside sources did help me maintain a lower blood pressure to be calm in difficult situations. I hope you understand that extra cholesterol doesn't make you have super powers with your brain functions.

​@@1st2nd43they mean a lot. Physics does apply to human body too, can you imagine? And units are used to describe energy content for a reason

@@KateeAngel Yes, they are described in units as a heat. But calories are a poor way to assess diet because it is more nuanced than that and 500 calories in a steak is different than 500 calories in a cake. A much more intuitive way is to measure what is measurable in grams. Our bodies are not made up of calories, we are made of up of fat and protein and sugar and water. That is measurable.

What is addictive about it? Carnists eat less frequently than vegans do. How much do you need to eat in a day to meet the same nutrient contents of that in a steak?

More likely their Cognitive Dissonance. I love animals while chewing a Dead body in theirs mouth.

.... What? Frequency of consumption is not synonymous with addiction. For example a person who lives in a hot climate is not more addicted to water because they drink more than those in cooler climates. The level of physiology incoherency from you guys is honestly astounding 🙄🙄

@@kieranstyx3633 Frequency is a strong indicator of addiction in the context of addiction. The op literally said carnists are addicted in the context of diet. I asked how are carnists addicted? She made that claim and rebuttal.

​@@1st2nd43You frequently have to drink water to stay hydrated... So... Water addiction? What? 😂

where is the science ? vegan propaganda for idiots who dont know what science is

If you want high triglycerides and low HDL… then have at it.

@@shiftgood This is not fact-based.

@@tamcon72 Yes it is.

@@aeoninnovations appeal to emotions is your only tactic.

even fewer get the daily recommendation for fiber. The carnivores all scream fiber is not necessary or even harmful. It is astonishing.

@@buckmurdock2500 It is. I just don't get it. What are all these people eating? For the carnivores, it seems a no-brainer, unless (perhaps) they devour cows or pigs in their entirety, including the contents of their organs, but the others? I just had a look, and (not including today, which isn't over yet) I had a daily average of 63 g over the past week and I am not even trying to 'get fibre'.

@@BartBVanBockstaele Duh, do two beers count as two servings? Or is diet coca not plant-based? In 2011, US Congress passed a bill allowing a pizza with two tablespoons (30 mL) of tomato paste to qualify as a vegetable. The bill also crushed proposed changes to limited the amount of potatoes allowed in school lunches, & require more green vegetables.

@@jonahwhale9047 Good question. The whole 'serving' thing rings ridiculous to me. Are Americans really so uneducated that they don't know how to read a scale? The issue with tomato paste is a bit more complicated. Two tablespoons (30 g) are somewhat comparable to 125 g of tomato, so that comparison seems more or less fair. As for school lunches, if it were up to me, I would have voted in favour of the vegetables, but against limiting potatoes. Potatoes may not be the ideal vegetable, but they are far preferable to junk food. We should not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

@@jonahwhale9047 When a product is plant-BASED that doesn't mean it is a vegetable or a fruit or both. Olive oil is made from a plant, that doesn't mean it is a plant.

too bad Mic isn't scientifically literate in any sense whatsoever.

I think they offer a first month free. You could sign up just for that and then discontinue.

@@mayhu3282 excellent suggestion. Thank you!

@mayhu3282 it doesn’t anymore! I tried that :(

oh theres definitely reason as to why they unfollowed you lol... they just know better. If you want another perspective other than what you've been told by mainstream "nutrition experts"... i have a science-based playlist on my channel called "veganism debunked".

Because eating meat is the best way of maximizing strength and hypertrophy goals, eating plants will never give you the same effect in that area. If it wasn't true, we would see top athletes that are plant based, but that doesn't exist.

​@@DanteLikesRockok ok person who is feeling guilty we know you didn't do research you don't have to comment 90 timed😂

@@Nickiminajcooch what? if you're going to try make any good arguments whatsoever, atleast try to verbalize them.

@@DanteLikesRock the vegan diet has been proven to be healthier many times just accept it

It doesn't. Removing pressed food, refined carbs, refined sugar, vegetable/seed oil is all that matters. You can eat 70% meat in you diet and be healthier than all vegans. Vegetables and grains are not need at all.

@@GarudaLegendsYour claims have zero scientific backing.

@@David-kx7tz have fun eating your daily meal of your American deep fried proceed food dunked in toxic vegetable/seed oils, with your tube of soda, and all the potato chips you can eat. ROTF

@@GarudaLegends That's a false dichotomy. What you are saying literally has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Those things will make you healthier, but so will eating more fruits and veggies. A bad diet with more broccoli is healthier than a bad diet without it.

@@InfiniteQuest86 wait. Who actually told you that nonsense? You really think adding broccoli to a bad diet is good or makes the diet better? ROTF, that is the most unscientific thing I ever heard. Are you vegan? Vegetables are absolutely not needed in the diet to be healthy. In Hong Kong they have the highest life expectancy and eat the most meat on earth, while In India they come a heavy vegan/vegetarian diet and have horrible life expectancy. Eating more vegetables is just a waste of money, and has no bearing on health being better. Im not against plant, but I get all my nutrients from meat and fruit hypercarnivore diet without suppliments, which all vegans and most vegetarians require.

My mom is nearly 60 now and has been vegetarian for 30 years, and now vegan for the last 5 years. She is FREQUENTLY mistaken for being her two sisters daughter by strangers. She literally looks 20 years younger than them. I think her eating lots of planta and no meat has made her age WAAAAY better.

@@fromeveryting29 I am happy for your mother 👍

What does your diet consist of?

@@Kylewraps in the morning I have Matcha tea, plain or with a little oat milk. Mid morning I drink a protein drink, like sun warrior protein. I vary the vanilla and chocolate I might add a banana and make a smoothie or just mix it half almond milk half water drinking the protein early in the day helps me from getting too hungry and balances my blood sugar. Lunch is usually raw, an apple or orange, celery with peanut butter salad with apple cider vinegar, olive oil, hemp seeds lots of greens and veggies. Dinner I like cooked food, a quinoa or rice bowl with lots of spices and sauces I make with tahini or basil pesto. I do a lot of soups with veggies beans, rice, pasta.. I must say I eat a big quantity of food I guess just like animals do when they’re grazing on plants! lol

@@KatieKamala I was eating PB and Celery recently btw they have squeezable peanut butter now I also drink tahini very underrated with how much protein it has and almost no net carbs I also use Sun warrior protein too!

@@Kylewrapsexcellent 😊

I don't use protein powder, but I, too, have never had a protein deficiency. Cut out meat 25 years ago.

Mic lied to you. How are you still this clueless lol?

You know.. we did develop tools to hunt animals, these tools were also developed to skin and cut....and we can eat the bone...when it is cooked. Bro. In the wild, those animals may consume fur and gristle, but do not digest it. It comes back out.

@@1st2nd43 Yes, it is roughage just like plant fibre. it has multiple health benefits.

@@tomgoff7887 The most health benefit is in the muscle meat and fat. That is what predators are hunting for and what their digestive system basically digests completely. There is not any fat or muscle meat in their feces.

​@@tomgoff7887predators need it but omnivores don't cause they eat enough fiber already

@@tomgoff7887 Didn't know that dogs had this, so they also alongside humans got the amylase adaption in their genes. Literally the dogs ate from the humans pot. (what's even more amazing is that both species did this on a diet high in meat and low on carbs /s)

100% In my state, cattle ranchers are required to pay dues to the Beef Council that then lobbies throughout the state. Wait til you see how many registered dietitians work for meat and dairy lobbyists. As a nutrition student, I was forced to sit through a 5 hour Beef Council lecture that included forcing me to watch them butcher and cook meat. It was awful.

@@jassy0903 yes, they point at vegans for forcing people, yet we only educate. The best form of dictatorship is lies. Lies change your mind perspective, therefore your behavior. They control people through lies.

@@jassy0903 Damn, that's crazy. Hope you stay strong to your morals and you will become a great dietician! :)

​​@@jassy0903so the school you're attending is funded at least in part by that Beef Council, I presume? Otherwise, why would a 5 hour meat production video be part of the curriculum. 🤔

No doubt about it. I saw a “drink milk” ad the other day and the surreal-ness was so off putting and the propaganda seemed so obvious. I just thought, how are people so blind? Imagine if we had commercials that just said “Drive cars.” and then in small print “(Paid for by the automotive industry)”. Eyebrows would collectively raise but because it’s the dairy and beef industry, suddenly it’s something important worth listening to.

cow milk is disgusting, people have been desensitized to the fact it's disgusting by marketing.

No no no. For any open-minded vegans here who want another perspective other than what you've been told by mainstream "nutrition experts"... i have a science-based playlist on my channel called "veganism debunked".

there is no evidence whatsoever. Rigged epidemiology isn't evidence.

"what idiots" good rebuttal, solid points made.🤡

if peace to nature is your goal fine, but never NEVER try to say it is health.

​@@DanteLikesRock but for me it's been fine for health, maybe it did it right , actually looking at life in a wholistic way it seems obvious to me , it's healthy to pioneer new ways of eating , finding harmony within. A slauter house is not healthy for body to mind or spirit !

@@DanteLikesRock i'll say it's health. I switched to a 100% plant based diet and my cholesterol dropped by 60% within just a few weeks

@@elnino4643 who cares? if youre basing your health purely on meaningless cholesterol numbers then you're already clueless, that was your first mistake.

I read from Dr Sherzai, who appears in the documentary, that the full research papers with all results will be published soon.

That's great, thanks for the info!! @@mayhu3282

Thanks!

Yes, but just make sure you're having a decent amount of legumes/beans/lentils, tofu/edamame, and higher protein veggies to make sure protein levels aren't too low, especially if active like myself :)

When I went vegetarian (not vegan) in 1988, we didn't have the internet or resources about nutrition other than the occasional dusty 1960s book in the library. Within two months, I shed around 25 pounds involuntarily. This is the point where I made an active effort to do more diet research, get to the gym and get more protein into my diet. Within a year, I gained back the 25 pounds and added an additional 20 pounds of muscle. I suspect that the study subjects in the Netflix show who were placed on vegan diets were new to all of this and not really aware of their protein intake.

Because a plant based diet are diet like vegetarian, pescaerian, Mediterranean, and diets that also some include meat dairy, honey and/or eggs. The vegan diet is not a plant based diet and unhealthy. It is plant exclusive diet like how a carnivore diet is animal product exclusive diet.

@@GarudaLegends lol

Not true, Veganism isn't a diet. It is a lifestyle. Vegans don't wear animal skin, they don't use products tested on animals, and so on. Calling it a diet is disservice to the animals who suffer outside of the food industry. The right term is plant based diet, as Mara said. Please look up the definition of Veganism. @@GarudaLegends

@@weevil8025 it is a vegan diet and it is unhealthy. Most of the world eats a plant based diet and not a vegan diet

I agree with you. The series should be renamed differently and the narrative should have been more on animal diet impact on evironment and how unhealthy is mass animal product production. The storyline about twins themselves where rather on the surface.

Also a scientist, but have been vegan for 7 years. I’m not sure why you take issue with the documentary’s bias. It’s a documentary, of course it’s going to be biased. If want learn more about their methodology read the paper.

That's my partner and I's thoughts too. They could have focused on supporting studies if they didn't want to go into the methodology too much also. It was frustrating.

It's a good point coming from someone who works as an expert witness and who's career involves studying the validity of evidence. The Netflix shows are too dramatic sometimes, but that is the world of Television. The credibility is in the studies themselves. It is the same with the blue zone study on Netflix. If you read the blue zone study itself it is a very credible and interesting piece of work (it's basically a vast data collection) that the TV show doesn't do enough justice of. The Loma Linda study, which is just outside LA, of the 9,000 adventists who live to an average age of 89 for men and 91 for women, 10 years longer than the average American, on vegan/vegetarian/ or mostly plant based is currently the very based case for any community in the western world looking to base diet and lifestyle on healthy life.

The contamination with pathogens in animal food can definitely be a reason for some people to stop eating them. The possibility of success of a restaurant when moving towards a plan based menu can be a motivation for people working in that industry. I find both stories had their place in the narrative.

Debunkingception!

they *claim to be vegan, and they do the opposite when no-one is looking. Didn't you know that?

They tried to make the study more applicable to real life, that's why they provided ready-made meals for only the first half of the study. I can see both the pros and cons in that.

@@CharlieFader The problem is that they weren’t measuring how easy it was to stick to the diet - they were measuring health benefits, which is hard to do if everyone is eating different things. Many people admitted to not even eating the premade meals, which makes the final comparison kinda pointless

@@Pwnation98 that’s closer to a real life scenario though, for someone following a new (to them) diet like a healthy plant-based diet. And still we could see the better health outcomes.

a joke of a study aimed to make veganism look good, which it failed at anyway.

Low-carb, carnivores, keto, etc. will dismiss any study that is not a RCT. Here we are, a very well conducted RCT and they won't accept it because it doesn't show what they want. 😂😂

Huh?

True. So nice. I am my own interventional crossover study. 95% whole plant based to 50% plant based or even lower, and back to close to 100% whole plant. Also randomized because I did not know about WFPB diet until I was back to close to 95% whole plant. God bless!

Correct, furthermore vegan only states who you don't eat. Nothing about what you are eating.

Agreed 👍

Accurate.

😭😭

Fat is bad only if you over-eat it. Our body needs fats

@@KateeAngel and what do you consider over doing it? Our body does not need animal fat.

​@@mizz308true, our body needs important fatty-acids no matter where they come from. Whether it is animal, plant products or supplements.

​@@KateeAngelAnimal fat has trans fats which we all know are some of the worst fats to eat. We don't need animal fat. Plants have all the fats we need.

*pseudo-science based there. Fixed it for you!👍🏻

That's likely a deficiency or a reflection of fitness level, not necessarily the vegan diet. It could also be age, as we get older often our bodies don't heal as resiliently as it did when we were kids. You could look into supplements for better scar healing (or look into what vitamins/minerals are associated with that, then see what foods you could include/increase in your diet to account for those.) Working out and developing more muscle tone also helps with healing. Increased muscle increases blood flow to those areas of the body, which helps with healing.

Poor skin

​@@1st2nd43 manners

That's sad to hear.

Yeah he doesn't look feminized like before, like so many men nowadays.

@@moniquebrachet5698 Yeah, nothing like the 60s..

@@moniquebrachet5698 I thought women were attracted to feminine men? what about Harry Styles in a dress?🤡

@@11235Aodh Not a fan of those androgynous men either..

while i agree with you, there is also plenty of meat heads who claim to feel better on k3to and c4rnivore diets. i don't even want to write those words out 'cause i don't want to get ads/video recommendations for them.

There's a ton of people experiencing even better results after leaving vegan diets and going keto or carnivore. Your comment proves nothing.

@@bastianfuentes8335 2000 people converting from Vegan diets to keto or Carnivore, I wonder where there Vegan diet consisted of. Also when someone goes the Keto or Carnivore route sponsors an industry that murders. So My question to you is what did the Animal did to you to deserved to be murdered?

There are plenty of people coming from the standard American diet to the vegan diet, and seen improvements. And then went from the vegan diet to the keto/carnie diet and seen improvement. More and more ex-vegans turned carnivores are coming and growing quicker than you realize.

I don’t know about keto. I have a bunch of friends that went keto from regular diets for losing weight. Most of them struggled then struggled again then eventually went back. Then the vegans I know all look really good for their ages., and no one is sluggish The keto people, no one wants to go all plants, don’t see want scares people about plant based, it’s same food.

One question is whether they lost muscle or fat inside their muscles. Vegans have been found to have much lower levels f fat inside the muscles--makes them less plump.

Yes.

I just tell the carnies I don't eat anything that had eyes and a momma.