My Response to Terrence Howard

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Күн бұрын

Neil deGrasse Tyson responds to comments made by Terrence Howard, reveals parts of his treatise, and explores the nature of scientific discovery.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - What Happened & The Dunning-Kruger Effect
4:56 - Breaking it Down
14:58 - Handling New Ideas

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@StarTalk
@StarTalk 9 күн бұрын
Did you watch Terrence's JRE appearance?
@its_me_roney143
@its_me_roney143 9 күн бұрын
Hii
@masterakbarrelyeshuaxxi7452
@masterakbarrelyeshuaxxi7452 9 күн бұрын
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@thecriticalriposte
@thecriticalriposte 9 күн бұрын
Grift city. I almost expect him to come out in a few years and shame all the people who offered him free credulity.
@artstrology
@artstrology 9 күн бұрын
one 2 minute clip
@uchennaokoro5480
@uchennaokoro5480 9 күн бұрын
did.... haven't heard so much bs confidently stated in my life
@john-wallaceholt1806
@john-wallaceholt1806 8 күн бұрын
I’m high af but these diss tracks are going crazy this year
@john-wallaceholt1806
@john-wallaceholt1806 8 күн бұрын
Neil = Kendrick
@JasthePhilo
@JasthePhilo 7 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@GrandNoble
@GrandNoble 7 күн бұрын
Kung fu degrasse Tyson
@shiellavoeshissgellavoe6630
@shiellavoeshissgellavoe6630 7 күн бұрын
Degrasse = Degrassi. Drake vibes
@simonboyane1140
@simonboyane1140 7 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 you killing me bro
@linefu
@linefu 7 күн бұрын
My teacher once taught me, "whenever you have an idea that you think is brilliant idea, don't try to prove it right but try to prove it wrong."
@user-rq7hv6lf8c
@user-rq7hv6lf8c 6 күн бұрын
Brilliant quote. I have to keep that in mind when I think of another good one: It doesnt't work, because it's true - It's true, because it works. These are not contradictions. I got to put some thought it them together anyway.
@SoNonWoo
@SoNonWoo 6 күн бұрын
Karl Popper, falsifiability
@user-xp6yy9cs3g
@user-xp6yy9cs3g 6 күн бұрын
Yeah like proving Earth is a globe
@warriorwarrior4958
@warriorwarrior4958 6 күн бұрын
We don't prove our hypothesis, we attempt to prove our null hypothesis.
@figmillenium
@figmillenium 6 күн бұрын
“Taught” you… teacher here 😉
@dannyvv2960
@dannyvv2960 12 сағат бұрын
"there's nothing wrong with a failed idea, now ppl know not to do it, that has value" that sounded nice
@jakefromstatefarm4771
@jakefromstatefarm4771 Сағат бұрын
I agree
@zombievegetron
@zombievegetron Күн бұрын
You were far more charitable than many people would have been. Kudos to you Dr. Tyson
@conundrum51
@conundrum51 6 сағат бұрын
The man has epic patience…
@LloydChristmas-vx2wh
@LloydChristmas-vx2wh 2 сағат бұрын
I think he lied about the "beautiful" art.
@jalenlueth5476
@jalenlueth5476 Сағат бұрын
Bear seek seek lest
@CrixusHeart
@CrixusHeart 4 күн бұрын
If Terrence hadn't brought it up, no one would know. Neil corrected him in private
@gimilkhad8169
@gimilkhad8169 4 күн бұрын
Now here he is, looking like a fool with his pants on the ground
@angeliquediablo84
@angeliquediablo84 4 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣​@@gimilkhad8169
@KansasJayhawksFan96
@KansasJayhawksFan96 4 күн бұрын
So true
@Thorcat001
@Thorcat001 4 күн бұрын
Not a huge NDT fan but he’s 100% correct here. He corrected this guy in private, the guy calls him out in public and now Neil has no choice but to show what he wrote. grammar and spelling errors, no edit mad respect.
@joelpsychadellic1485
@joelpsychadellic1485 4 күн бұрын
I been felt like 1x1 is 2 if you're multiplying it makes more sense
@benjaminnxumalo2957
@benjaminnxumalo2957 6 күн бұрын
Terrence Howard was looking for Affirmation but instead received a Peer Review.
@tgflux
@tgflux 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think NDGT probably should have explained "Peer Review" upfront...
@Gecko17k
@Gecko17k 6 күн бұрын
Sorry bub (Terence), the scientific method is harsh but it's that way because it needs to be to sort fiction from fact. We can either accept it or look for trouble.
@Neeko_Z
@Neeko_Z 6 күн бұрын
Where was everyone to peer review Fauci and Frederick Stare. Plz. Peer review means nothing when everyone is bought. Annnd. Walter Russel was a beast of a person. Cross reference all his accomplishments. There are some simple reasons he was blacklisted. Heck, many were blacklisted after him like Linus Pauling. People speak truth and the cowards stay quiet.
@rickyricardo2006
@rickyricardo2006 6 күн бұрын
@@Gecko17kTerranse looked for trouble
@user-mb5nw2oc1v
@user-mb5nw2oc1v 6 күн бұрын
Going to the moon was once science fiction never give up​@@Gecko17k
@Hiltegard
@Hiltegard 16 сағат бұрын
When I watched the Terrence Howard JRE episode, the whole time I was thinking "Terrence has checked out and is floating in his own world now".
@FreejackVesa
@FreejackVesa 7 сағат бұрын
It's disturbing how many people are echoing "we must protect Terrance Howard, 'they' are going to take him out for what he knows" and similar comments. But, I still believe there are more informed people today than any time in history, so it's still a win. Only thing I fear is that those with demonstrably false ideas will start banding together via the internet, which clearly is already happening, in greater numbers in the future.
@asd123543666
@asd123543666 5 сағат бұрын
Yeah, Terrence Howard is a nut case. He is acting just like Charles Mason. Just read all the papers Charles Mason wrote about and its Terrence Howard 110%.
@seansurfn2
@seansurfn2 4 сағат бұрын
@@asd123543666 so typical of ignorant people like you to simply call people speaking truth as crazy. you will be on the wrong side of history
@TaylorLiam87
@TaylorLiam87 2 сағат бұрын
​@@FreejackVesatotally agree!! Was shocked at the comments section full of people believing in what he was saying.
@PomegranatesWeather
@PomegranatesWeather Сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂 💯
@Ash__7
@Ash__7 18 сағат бұрын
Neil was 1000x more respectful than he had to be. I respect that
@user-hb8rd8pj9t
@user-hb8rd8pj9t 8 сағат бұрын
He's an actor and a fool as is anyone that believes anything he has to say about space period ! Neil that is !!!!! Terrance is speaking truth to the world's lies ! Respect is nothing more then him trying to keep his lies from being recognized for the fraud they are !
@razorback0z
@razorback0z 4 сағат бұрын
Well when you are somewhere between a science lightweight a a complete crackpot yourself, its best to go lightly.
@xDjembex
@xDjembex 4 сағат бұрын
​@@razorback0z are you speaking from personal experience?
@davegeorge4757
@davegeorge4757 3 сағат бұрын
He was literally carefully and rationally analyzing the ramblings of an obviously mentally ill person.
@JayJay-jx3zg
@JayJay-jx3zg 3 сағат бұрын
He just proved you don’t have to flame someone when you disagree with them. We need more of that.
@juggs_7635
@juggs_7635 Күн бұрын
Ironically, the most viewed peer review in history
@chillydoog
@chillydoog Күн бұрын
Terrance could not handle legitimate feedback. And NDT spent way more time with Terrence's garbage treatise than it was deserving of. Its like someone who didn't even graduate high school telling you that "all of mathematics is WRONG".
@Akum4Kam15ama
@Akum4Kam15ama Күн бұрын
This is probably true... huh
@Robo311Star
@Robo311Star Күн бұрын
😢
@mrpearson1230
@mrpearson1230 Күн бұрын
Easily! ..although technically they're not peers!
@floridianman
@floridianman Күн бұрын
What makes it ironic
@ModernMaleTV
@ModernMaleTV 8 күн бұрын
These rap beefs have ascended to galactic levels.
@courtneycraft6342
@courtneycraft6342 8 күн бұрын
This better end up top comment.
@respectthecrazy
@respectthecrazy 8 күн бұрын
Comment of the day 😂
@uanSuanT.V.
@uanSuanT.V. 8 күн бұрын
bro!!!!!
@user-qf7dq4ul4l
@user-qf7dq4ul4l 8 күн бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂
@Andre7414
@Andre7414 8 күн бұрын
😂
@HEIRorERROR
@HEIRorERROR 22 сағат бұрын
Man, I'm really grateful NDT responded cause seeing his actual responses, he was being completely respectful
@Lalune350z
@Lalune350z 19 сағат бұрын
I am no scientist, but had a scientist teacher that gave me a project in Art college. He gave me a peer review of a ridiculous idea I had and I was very convinced that it's true. He gave me a reality check and It kind of changed my life on how I look at things. Ideas with no proof and no tests are just dreaming it would be true knowing it's false. Great job by the way he should have been more thankful for the thoughtful peer review.
@brendanressler4359
@brendanressler4359 2 күн бұрын
“To be a genius is to be misunderstood, but to be misunderstood is not to be a genius” is so eloquent and so brutal it made my eyes water
@Jay-fc4fg
@Jay-fc4fg 2 күн бұрын
That was pure gold
@VicJang
@VicJang 2 күн бұрын
I love that line. Couldn’t be more true. 😂
@TheSilviaProject
@TheSilviaProject 2 күн бұрын
biggest load of cope ... a genius is generally a person whom makes the misunderstood-understood to the masses. nobody cares if youre smart and are unable to articulate yourself
@s.a.f.7191
@s.a.f.7191 2 күн бұрын
First we had katt williams, then kendrick, bow neil, what a year 😂
@s.a.f.7191
@s.a.f.7191 2 күн бұрын
@@TheSilviaProjecthis comment is a “part” of being genius. Within the scope of mathematics and science you are often time mis understood until your idea has been proven to be genius.
@DH-rj2kv
@DH-rj2kv 9 күн бұрын
I think Neil had a rather polite way of telling someone "You are completely wrong and have no real knowledge about anything you talk about, but you draw nice pictures".
@cedvdb6473
@cedvdb6473 9 күн бұрын
He should have sent color pencils with the reply
@user-zt8sm2uc5z
@user-zt8sm2uc5z 9 күн бұрын
That's what I got and I fully support it.
@champsog
@champsog 9 күн бұрын
Which was the most ignorant thing why howard said what he said. Funny that howard has a patent that nearly every top company is using but Neil has discovered nothing at all but going to institutions and having the same scientific eduction that every scientist has. Its the innovators and creative minds that Neils learning from in the first place loool the irony
@scottchilds5726
@scottchilds5726 9 күн бұрын
Perfectly put.
@HouMat-if5fi
@HouMat-if5fi 9 күн бұрын
Neil Degrassi Tyson is a low IQ actor.
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 22 сағат бұрын
Honestly what I learned from this is that Neil is just a truly kind dude.
@Robnoxious77
@Robnoxious77 9 минут бұрын
funny, he’s usually a self centred a hole who weighs in on a lot of things he has no idea about. But he’s respectful towards someone who is clearly insane? ok.
@CallMeMicahT
@CallMeMicahT 21 сағат бұрын
Anyone who says “I saw Terrence Howard on Joe Rogan, he’s a genius” just know they’re crazy too.
@PomegranatesWeather
@PomegranatesWeather Сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@jamescuttler8047
@jamescuttler8047 Сағат бұрын
Just watching Joe Rogan at all is a red flag for pseudo intellectualism
@XGrimzukiX
@XGrimzukiX 3 күн бұрын
Having to prove that 1x1=2 is false is so on par for these times.
@Iden_in_the_Rain
@Iden_in_the_Rain 3 күн бұрын
This is either a great take or a garbage take, depending on what you were trying to refer to lol
@mikeyj990ify
@mikeyj990ify 3 күн бұрын
Seriously
@wulfooo
@wulfooo 3 күн бұрын
Terrence sees 1 as a unit for something else so when he says 1 x 1 = 2+ he means 1A x 1B = 2+ It’s a semantic issue within their math for example; get one person with another person together and they’ll have more than two times faster output
@charleirinhacomunista
@charleirinhacomunista 3 күн бұрын
​@@wulfooo1Ax1B=1AB
@Isabel-pw6zu
@Isabel-pw6zu 3 күн бұрын
this comment is very on par for these times
@bigbangtheory1185
@bigbangtheory1185 9 күн бұрын
" To be a genius is to be misunderstood. But to be misunderstood is not to be a genius " - NDT
@jordinhocharles
@jordinhocharles 9 күн бұрын
Damn they’re gonna be using that quote 200 years from now … is that originally his or did he quote a quote
@christopherhamilton3621
@christopherhamilton3621 9 күн бұрын
@@jordinhocharlesI have heard it elsewhere but I hardly think it’s original. Similar contra-points have been made by others but it’s a good one nonetheless.
@derhannes5039
@derhannes5039 9 күн бұрын
What a quote 😎
@simongrant2338
@simongrant2338 9 күн бұрын
I'm an expert narcissist, and barely a scientist. NDT
@01LincLS
@01LincLS 9 күн бұрын
It's an ancient Greek proverb, unfortunately. Not a NDT original quote
@kmoore7498
@kmoore7498 17 сағат бұрын
This man is a treasure. Honest, direct, kind and just explaining facts.
@emilflognoid1532
@emilflognoid1532 14 сағат бұрын
This is the same math Terrance Howard used to get more money for iron man 2.... oh wait...
@Dohvakiiin
@Dohvakiiin 7 күн бұрын
We are living in a MAGNIFICENT era, where a renowned astrophysicist is having to illustrate why 1*1 = 2 is incorrect 💀💀💀.
@simonboyane1140
@simonboyane1140 7 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@aaronsmyth2026
@aaronsmyth2026 7 күн бұрын
More to the point, why are you watching it?
@daddymememaster5432
@daddymememaster5432 7 күн бұрын
@@aaronsmyth2026I think it's interesting. How about you?
@bogadu
@bogadu 7 күн бұрын
@@GarlitoMc In other words: 1x2=3. Ok then..
@bobmusil1458
@bobmusil1458 7 күн бұрын
@@kauaigold1 + 1 is not the same as 1 * 1 I’m sorry that your kindergarten teacher did that not explain that to you
@BetterToDIY
@BetterToDIY 3 күн бұрын
The fact that Neil deGrasse Tyson even gave those 36 pages the time of day says a lot about him. Respect.
@brittanycarriger
@brittanycarriger 3 күн бұрын
I was like "ONLY!?"
@turnpike_sime9897
@turnpike_sime9897 3 күн бұрын
36 pages is not alot
@jessicaemmit4062
@jessicaemmit4062 3 күн бұрын
@@brittanycarriger He's probably peer reviewed and written longer things than that if you think about it.
@MorbiusBlueBalls
@MorbiusBlueBalls 3 күн бұрын
nah he literally wasted time reading dogshit.
@yourmumsahoe1
@yourmumsahoe1 3 күн бұрын
@@brittanycarriger have you ever read a book before? 36 pages is nothing when your entire life is reading/studying. not to mention some of those pages were picture illustrations only.
@atlnla4112
@atlnla4112 23 сағат бұрын
The Dunning-Kruger effect has been noticed exponentially in recent years. Especially in and after 2020. People see, hear, or watch a video about something now and think they “know” about that thing. It usually ends up being a peripheral understanding, sometimes misunderstood, or even a matter of misinformation or disinformation. That’s why our politics is so out of whack.
@saintsalieri
@saintsalieri 2 сағат бұрын
Every since I heard about it it's become more common, kinda crazy.
@David_DY
@David_DY Сағат бұрын
Are politics are out of whack by design.
@LindsayEllisVids
@LindsayEllisVids 22 сағат бұрын
This falls in perfectly with Angela Collier's theory of crackpots
@BreakerBreaker1-9ine
@BreakerBreaker1-9ine 9 күн бұрын
Doing a peer review is sometimes taken as a personal attack. You took your time to review it, he took it as an insult. You don't have time to review everyone's theories. Terrence received what most of us will never get.
@jamesdelapena5648
@jamesdelapena5648 9 күн бұрын
Very true!
@alliagetexas1716
@alliagetexas1716 9 күн бұрын
i wish my misunderstood ideas of many concepts were debunked by him . he took his time to read every word and answered accordingly and terrence still complains
@JoeAverage1469
@JoeAverage1469 9 күн бұрын
Constructive criticism should be seen as a GIFT! For someone to donate their time to you is priceless, they cannot get that time back. Receive it with humility and respect.
@thepatinashop5071
@thepatinashop5071 9 күн бұрын
Terrence wants people to think he’s special and scientific… and his bubble just got popped 😂
@JaredBrewerAerospace
@JaredBrewerAerospace 9 күн бұрын
What I would not do to have Neil shred my paper about a mechanism that could potentially "generate" some portion of what we call dark matter (not detailing it here there's a paper on it)... Whatever there is a much shorter list of the things I wouldn't do. It has already been peer reviewed by professors at Stanford, William & Mary, and CERN... Neil?! That would jump straight to the top of that list. I would frame every 1 of the those pages and lined my house with them if I was him.
@jahniya413
@jahniya413 2 күн бұрын
The fact that he got a peer review from a renowned astrophysicist was a sign of respect but that clearly went over his big head
@GwynnBlake
@GwynnBlake 2 күн бұрын
Man, I like comments section.
@user-zl8pp4nq5r
@user-zl8pp4nq5r 2 күн бұрын
I disagree. Let's not treat Dr. Tyson so highly above everyone else. He gave a peer review, not a kidney.
@donnellray119
@donnellray119 2 күн бұрын
​@user-zl8pp4nq5r oh...I thought the commenter said he received a peer review from a renowned astrophysicist. I didn't see the part about high above everybody else. Must've missed it.
@markkealy4417
@markkealy4417 Күн бұрын
​@@AchilIesWhat are you smoking? Harvard only offers Bachelors of Arts at undergraduate level, I swear you got your knowledge of what degrees are from the back of a cereal box.
@dgmessenger
@dgmessenger Күн бұрын
​@@AchilIesTBH it was a BA in Physics and an MA in Physics. He did obtain a PhD in astrophysics from Columbia. But, I agree, he admits he didn't spend much time in the lab/research. He is a good science communicator and is perfect for TH.
@jewellllll
@jewellllll 14 сағат бұрын
I am so sick of watching the news and hearing certain political figures speak like children. This man is so refreshing, I love you Neil deGrasse Tyson. I'm here for this. 🍿
@MAYK1NG
@MAYK1NG Күн бұрын
🙌🏼 One hundred percent fascinating and respectful- much more than Howard offered or deserved.
@andrewadams7607
@andrewadams7607 Күн бұрын
When I was in college I had a professor do something similar with one of my papers and it drove me because I learned my professor cared enough to take my work seriously.
@sphumelelesijadu
@sphumelelesijadu Күн бұрын
Exactly!! 💯 Neil took this man seriously. Clearly that went over his head.
@TonyTube407
@TonyTube407 21 сағат бұрын
I would be honored to have received such a serious review of my work.
@jacksquatt6082
@jacksquatt6082 20 сағат бұрын
Tyson doesn't take him seriously. He knows who will get massive attention from the general public. He wants to address this topic for anyone *else* who might actually take it seriously.
@joungyalen25
@joungyalen25 20 сағат бұрын
I'm surprised he even read it.
@IAmHavok
@IAmHavok 14 сағат бұрын
​@jacksquatt6082 both things can be true. When he first received the thesis he took it serious enough to write back and "grade" his work, this video is to discuss his side and educate any who agree with Howard.
@edolezel87
@edolezel87 8 күн бұрын
He didn’t want your honest analysis, he wanted you to agree with him.
@patrickbutler87
@patrickbutler87 8 күн бұрын
not only that, he wanted NDT to be like "omg you're right, Terrence, you're a genius! thank you for enlightening me!"
@Nomnomnom165
@Nomnomnom165 8 күн бұрын
@@Coolfullmoonguy You don't multiply pennies with each other. The result would be measured in a unit called penny-squared, same reason as to why you won't multiply dollars with each other to get some value which is measured by dollar-squared. You don't multiply money, you add/subtract it A common use case is geometry, architecture, etc. 1 meter-squared is a measurement of area which is the result of 1 meter x 1 meter 1 square foot is also the same thing, 1 foot x 1 foot. When you convert feet to meters, 1 foot = 0.3048 meters. But when you convert square feet to square meters, it's 1 square foot = 0.092903 square meters. But how? because 1 square foot = 1 foot x 1 foot = 0.3048 meters x 0.3048 meters = 0.092903 squared meters (i took approximate values but you get the idea)
@1ermejo4ever1
@1ermejo4ever1 8 күн бұрын
@@Coolfullmoonguy Nothing of what you said makes sense. A mathematical fact doesn't have to be usefull to your day to day life, just like the vast majority of science doesn't (does star formation or quantum physics change how you live your life?). Most people will never need integrals in their life, yet they exists and have uses in math. Square root of 0.64 is 0.8 because 0.8*0.8 is 0.64, the fact that you don't have any uses for this in your life is meaningless.
@fernandotroya2007
@fernandotroya2007 8 күн бұрын
​@@Coolfullmoonguyunits are important , when you get the área of a room you multiply lengths, ex. 5 m by 10 m and you get 50 SQUARED meters, a m² is not the same as a m. In the same sense 8 cents times 8 cents would be 64 cents² not 64 cents.
@alex-worm
@alex-worm 8 күн бұрын
@@Coolfullmoonguyits a second grade math mistake. you cant multiply cents by cents. to count money you are multiplying cents by how much you have them and you cant have decimal number of cents
@J_doggy-yd7my
@J_doggy-yd7my 9 сағат бұрын
Can't believe there's people who listened to Terrence describe his memory of being born and then proceeded to take him seriously for the rest of the conversation😂
@justthink8282
@justthink8282 8 сағат бұрын
Mind-blowing! And what about the bisexual carbon ? What a revelation!
@AndrewGorny
@AndrewGorny Күн бұрын
I really think Startalk should have a segment called "that's not how that works" and probes the conspiratorial alternate sciences. We need someone to put these people in their place.
@estebandiaz2772
@estebandiaz2772 Күн бұрын
I think those people need some therapy tbh
@declaringpond2276
@declaringpond2276 8 сағат бұрын
​@@estebandiaz2772Pretty sure the US is keeping people mentally unhealthy to allow for ease of control. There's so many people who need help, many are even public figures
@estebandiaz2772
@estebandiaz2772 7 сағат бұрын
@@declaringpond2276 Interesting, but if I had to take a guess, I wouldn’t say it’s a conspiracy. I would say it’s an unfortunate consequence of the unfiltered rapid proliferation of digital information and the ease of access through unideal mediums such as social media platforms.
@declaringpond2276
@declaringpond2276 7 сағат бұрын
@@estebandiaz2772 I mean it's not a conspiracy theory, a population that is less educated and unhealthy is easier to control. Obviously it's not some huge government plot, it's more like the government taking advantage of it. But it doesn't help when the government cuts both federal education budget and healthcare budgets, really feels like they're leaning into it
@LakanPepe
@LakanPepe 9 күн бұрын
Dude got peer reviewed by one of today's top scientists IN HIS FIELD, and concluded that Neil was throwing shade.
@VeritasIncrebresco
@VeritasIncrebresco 9 күн бұрын
Neil ain't top of his field. Not even sure which field he's in. He thinks men can get pregnant
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 9 күн бұрын
a⧈b=(a×b)+(a+b−1) The thing is volumetric multiplication ie $1×$1=$2 whereas normal system $1×1=$1... because $1×$1=$2 is a volumetric multiplication it follows the new applied Howard rule for volumetric calculation i created a⧈b=(a×b)+(a+b−1)..
@alexokin6819
@alexokin6819 9 күн бұрын
Bal trigers haul hill hertz. Gone wen load amalgam. I fall apoplectic on tumult gibralt , heinz hoeds retort ingenious duped magnum
@reasonabledoubts5537
@reasonabledoubts5537 9 күн бұрын
Educated vs Uneducated
@trollpaintingminis4496
@trollpaintingminis4496 9 күн бұрын
Narcissists don't enjoy criticism
@CptApplestrudl
@CptApplestrudl 8 күн бұрын
"No" or "you are wrong" are not insults. People would do well to understand that.
@yapp2yapp2
@yapp2yapp2 8 күн бұрын
Not only did he say: no you are wrong He said the reasons he are wrong and even welcomed terrence to correct him and write back with the support og someone else… terrence is delulululusional
@panhalt5604
@panhalt5604 8 күн бұрын
You are wrong.
@Joe_TheHost
@Joe_TheHost 8 күн бұрын
At no point in your incoherent rambling could anything be even considered a vaild response. Everyone in this room is now dumber having listened to it. I award you no points. And may God have mercy on your soul.
@Mogait20
@Mogait20 8 күн бұрын
He used "false" as opposed to "wrong" when you say false, you imply the author is intentionally lying.
@tylerpan5447
@tylerpan5447 8 күн бұрын
I'll give you one better, who is wrong?
@CaliKiwi-
@CaliKiwi- 3 сағат бұрын
An incredibly gentle let down.. major show of class on NDT’s part. Kudos!!
@nne09330
@nne09330 15 сағат бұрын
I would be super grateful if a professional took their time to read 36 pages of my ideas and gave me honest critique especially if you're someone who's actually interested in the topic, you would be open to learning. Some people just don't know how to take criticism and that has everything to do with ego. Nothing he read seemed like an attack and he even complimented his art, I hate when people ask me a question, not to know how I really feel about something, but just for me to agree with them.
@buckmudd8006
@buckmudd8006 2 күн бұрын
Dr. Tyson actually has done TH a huge favor by seriously considering TH's concepts. Dude got his theory professionally peer-reviewed by NDT. That is an honor.
@NeCoruption
@NeCoruption 2 күн бұрын
Not necessarily, it was forced. He name dropped Tyson after Tyson ALREADY told him long ago he was wrong about this.
@aaa-gt8by
@aaa-gt8by 2 күн бұрын
Is it an honor is he he just so remarkably s2pidd that he needed to be disproven by an astrophysicist 😂
@Plasmastorm73_n5evv
@Plasmastorm73_n5evv 2 күн бұрын
@@NeCoruption NDT Peer reviewed it 8 years ago. Said so from his very mouth in this video. 1:16
@xochitlp
@xochitlp 2 күн бұрын
Ikr?! Lucky.
@cajunguy6502
@cajunguy6502 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, Tyson doesn't have the most gentle demeanor, and he adores debunking things, so I imagine he didn't pull any punches. Howard is an an actor, he got his ego hurt.
@AidinNyathi
@AidinNyathi 6 күн бұрын
"If you find yourself being the smartest person in room, change rooms " - Damn!
@OathKeeper1506
@OathKeeper1506 6 күн бұрын
Or… grab some chalk, stand up and teach. If you’re not the smartest in the room, sit down, shut up and grab a pen and paper. The problem is, everyone thinks they’re the smartest in the room nowadays and lack in humility.
@natwilliams4076
@natwilliams4076 6 күн бұрын
The toughest, the fastest, the richest....
@dumbiri.gbenoba
@dumbiri.gbenoba 6 күн бұрын
I agree, that this can be good for personal improvement. But if everyone is following this rule there will never be more than one person in a room.
@automaticmattywhack1470
@automaticmattywhack1470 6 күн бұрын
It's the best way to learn.
@ASHHADU
@ASHHADU 6 күн бұрын
@@OathKeeper1506 Exactly, you attempt to teach but if the message that is being presented is being ignored THEN you change rooms!
@sunna8476
@sunna8476 9 сағат бұрын
The beat drop at 9:30 takes this diss track to another level
@obansrinathan
@obansrinathan Күн бұрын
The bit at the end of the video was quite good. I recommend Angela Colliers video on scientific debate for a longer discussion on the topic.
@Ink_Addict93
@Ink_Addict93 2 күн бұрын
1x1≠2. There we go Terrence, your equation is fixed.
@andrew_stamps
@andrew_stamps 2 күн бұрын
It can also be fixed with a 45 degree turn of the operator.
@ValRoyD
@ValRoyD Күн бұрын
Yup, if the math is wrong, then the person doing the math is wrong.
@jeronecutikazem7401
@jeronecutikazem7401 Күн бұрын
In defense of Terrence I think he though of it differently, ex; Joe Rogan x Joey Diaz ≠ 1
@johnrichardson7629
@johnrichardson7629 Күн бұрын
​@jeronecutikazem7401 Multiplying people, whatever that is is supposed to be, has nothing to do with it. Why are you scrambling to defend nonsense?
@dgmessenger
@dgmessenger Күн бұрын
Niel could have had that as his only comment and then sent it back to TH. That had to be painful to sit through and read his rantings.
@karmakamra
@karmakamra 9 күн бұрын
If I wrote a letter to Dr Tyson with my ideas on physics, and he actually took the time to respond in such detail, I would be deeply honored. Even if 100% of his reply was him telling me it was all wrong. What a gift that would be to receive.
@jamesdelapena5648
@jamesdelapena5648 9 күн бұрын
I agree 100%
@pairashootpants5373
@pairashootpants5373 9 күн бұрын
So well said. I couldn't agree more.
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 9 күн бұрын
a⧈b=(a×b)+(a+b−1) The thing is volumetric multiplication ie $1×$1=$2 whereas normal system $1×1=$1... because $1×$1=$2 is a volumetric multiplication it follows the new applied Howard rule for volumetric calculation i created a⧈b=(a×b)+(a+b−1)...
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 9 күн бұрын
@@pairashootpants5373 thanks
@nomastomas002
@nomastomas002 9 күн бұрын
Yeah and like NGT said, going on the rogan podcast is not where you should go to validate new ideas. I'm paraphrasing.
@MrCaZzzle
@MrCaZzzle 8 сағат бұрын
I think Neil's responses (assuming they are exactly as shown here) are pretty objective and respectful for Terrence.
@tristancills6442
@tristancills6442 5 сағат бұрын
if only our political debates were this amicable and focused
@PhantomSavage
@PhantomSavage 2 күн бұрын
Imagine dumping a 36 page thesis on how you think you've broken mathematics to an astrophysicist and one of the greatest scientific minds in the world, then getting mad when they reply back with "You got confused about some things, but I'm glad you're passionate about it and your art looks really cool dude"
@bravesp1r1t23
@bravesp1r1t23 2 күн бұрын
Well, NDT is not nearly great, not even talking about greatest. He is a mediocre scientist, being of an underrepresented group and very good spoken and entertaining, he became popular on social media. But he is a scientist never the less.
@dengar96
@dengar96 2 күн бұрын
​@@bravesp1r1t23 he's orders of magnitude more intelligent than Howard, though the average chinchilla is too so that's not a great bar to use.
@TheSpoovy
@TheSpoovy 2 күн бұрын
"one of the greatest scientific minds in the world" ?? 😂
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI 2 күн бұрын
NdT isn’t even close to being ‘one of the greatest minds.’ To even think that is hilarious He has literally made no contributions to actual science
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI 2 күн бұрын
@@bravesp1r1t23he actually isn’t a scientist and never has been. He leads the Hayden planetarium. He also isn’t a physicist, as you have to do real post doc work and research to be that. Merely having a PhD does not make you a physicist or scientist if you don’t do any actual real work after obtaining the degree
@fyradur
@fyradur 7 күн бұрын
And let me add, Neil is WAAAY more polite to him than what scientists are to each other in real peer review.
@Lolllll344
@Lolllll344 7 күн бұрын
Yeah little disappointing
@taijidog85
@taijidog85 7 күн бұрын
Sadly. It’s difficult to see that when you are attacked in a review-it’s less the correction of bad science and more the ego of the reviewers.
@Shockkings0714
@Shockkings0714 7 күн бұрын
The only thing this says to me are most scientists are pos losers who got bullied in highschool
@Shockkings0714
@Shockkings0714 7 күн бұрын
The only thing this says to me are most scientists are pos losers who got bullied in highschool
@isaklytting5795
@isaklytting5795 7 күн бұрын
And that's a problem with peer-review and the culture in science. There is no reason to be anything but polite. Stick to the facts and numbers. Don't begin on psychological games, ad hominem attacks, denigration. It's just a reflection of the psychological needs of the person criticizing to bolster their own ego, and it speaks of weakness and confusion on all kinds of psychological and intellectual levels
@Minehavin
@Minehavin 37 минут бұрын
He is very nice giving him a peer review and even more so respectful in this video.
@trpy_g
@trpy_g 15 сағат бұрын
As soon as he pronounced Degrasse in two ways like it doesn't matter, I knew the rest of his thoughts are going to be similar 🤣💯 Much respect to Neil ❤️👏
@raynel7679
@raynel7679 2 күн бұрын
I’m guilty of taking small amounts of info and running with it until I ran into someone who truly knew the topic and it’s safe to say I never did that again
@notaspeck6104
@notaspeck6104 Күн бұрын
IMO as long as you have self awareness and aren’t arrogant it’s totally chill. We can’t be experts in everything, but everything is so interesting… 😂
@thakurv1
@thakurv1 Күн бұрын
It happens to us naturally bc of ego but at you are one of the ones to recognize it. Good awareness and humility.
@LittleLearningAcademy-ql4yi
@LittleLearningAcademy-ql4yi Күн бұрын
Same here. We all have been guilty of that, if were being honest. When we drop the ego and don't react emotionally, you can better take "constructive criticism" in stride.
@SotaBoy4232
@SotaBoy4232 Күн бұрын
It feels good when you know a little of something that most don't but it's a very humble/humiliating moment when you run into someone who knows just a bit more. I just stay quiet now 😂
@lloydbonafide3398
@lloydbonafide3398 Күн бұрын
It happens now more than ever because of the internet. Everyone is now a zoologist, engineer, doctor, lawyer, scientis, and politician. They get their info from Facebook, tik tok, and their favorite youtuber, and now they're professionals ​@thakurv1
@berserkergames113
@berserkergames113 3 күн бұрын
the fact that Neil treated Terrance as a peer / equal, instead of dumbing his answers down says alot about neil, well done sir
@abrahammartinez6292
@abrahammartinez6292 3 күн бұрын
*Peer
@deucedeuce333
@deucedeuce333 3 күн бұрын
So he stood on Terrance? Maybe went fishing off Terrance pier?
@TheKxc
@TheKxc 3 күн бұрын
Why do ppl treat this man he’s ever done anything?
@MauriJuarez-du4ji
@MauriJuarez-du4ji 3 күн бұрын
Yeah he getz alot of respect from me
@alexanderwaldbaum1055
@alexanderwaldbaum1055 3 күн бұрын
As much as I hate Niels opinion on a lot of things, this was really well done.
@LOTW1
@LOTW1 20 сағат бұрын
If people weren't so in their feelings and simply accepted other people's opinions with humility and considered the possibility of being wrong, and never took things personal. We all would be in a better place as a society.
@orangeiceice12
@orangeiceice12 2 сағат бұрын
Tyson is a real one for this. Love the fact that you gave his ideas a serious treatment. It's a shame that Howard doesn't appreciate the respect entailed thereby.
@ambergilligan9660
@ambergilligan9660 2 күн бұрын
I love that he took the time to put him on a level to even receive a peer review. He loved that he wanted to be a part of a scientific discussion. He tried to show him in private where his thoughts weren’t right. He didn’t blast him. He continued to show respect. Terrance shouldn’t have brought up that it happened. Imagine having the chance to have Neil Degrasse Tyson peer review your thoughts on science! I’d feel privileged to be taken that seriously!
@user-xz4jz6nz2m
@user-xz4jz6nz2m Күн бұрын
Ikr? In fact I'm not even sure if Terrence even offered to pay NDT for it. Peer review isn't a side job for scientists, it's their actual job and yet Howard had him peer review something presumably for free. Tyson then with respect did his job and politely indicated the mistakes while giving credit where it was due all for free and Howard got but hurt.
@arun2995
@arun2995 Күн бұрын
@@user-xz4jz6nz2m Ha ha, that's just icing on the cake.
@amt-tyn-teen3669
@amt-tyn-teen3669 Күн бұрын
Like a peer review is supposed to mean something. So you have to have a degree in order to provide a peer review. Does anyone remember Srinivasa Ramanujan when he started to resort to his religion for his inspiration in mathematics while his Gentile English professors wanted proofs? Before he went to school, he was writing professors at Cambridge about his thoughts and theorems regarding mathematics. He had to take his religious experience for mathematics and dumb it down for The Gentile English professors at Cambridge. The fact is most scholarly articles are peer-reviewed by Europeans as is the case for most Noble Peace Prize winners. Don't believe the hype!
@ballingwisdom4804
@ballingwisdom4804 Күн бұрын
Gotta understand most people in this day and age don’t take constructive criticism dey take it as someone attacking them
@CGeis21
@CGeis21 Күн бұрын
You know Neil is a quack correct? No physicist worth their salt would ever go to ndt for an expert opinion
@SimplySarah2007
@SimplySarah2007 Күн бұрын
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." This was excellent, thank you!
@kait4824
@kait4824 15 сағат бұрын
I think Einstein said this first
@SimplySarah2007
@SimplySarah2007 14 сағат бұрын
He did, yes! I was quoting Einstein to say how well Mr. Tyson explained everything versus how Mr. Howard spoke on JRE.
@millionairesclubllc3193
@millionairesclubllc3193 14 сағат бұрын
"Never trust an astrophysicist who acts like a Diva." Neil tyson destroyed having a meltdown: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7CJlL1psN-YiJs.htmlsi=GjQunWx3-vxMD8k1
@kylatokki22
@kylatokki22 13 сағат бұрын
I’ve worked in STEM for about 14 years now, and one of my fave quotes is from Kurt Vonnegut in the novel ‘Cat’s Cradel.’ Dr. Hoenikker used to say that any scientist who couldn't explain to an eight-year-old what he was doing was a charlatan. - Said by Dr. Asa Breed; chapter 15
@sorasora9305
@sorasora9305 13 сағат бұрын
This can be cap though. When learning something at the highest level we should be able to simply explain it.
@JasonLihani
@JasonLihani 23 сағат бұрын
That quote about "knowing enough about a subject" is one of my absolute favorites. Missed you, Dr. Tyson.
@cizia69
@cizia69 6 сағат бұрын
I have a theory: Terrence Howard and Katt WIlliams sound crazy when they are on Joe Rogan. Review that.
@ghostinthegrave7958
@ghostinthegrave7958 2 күн бұрын
Neil handled it perfectly, he didn't belittle Howard for trying out new ideas, he gave Howard fair scientific criticism that Howard took as insults
@DMOWAIVERS
@DMOWAIVERS 2 күн бұрын
He just saves the belittling for the unvaccinated and people who believe there are only two genders.
@env0x
@env0x 2 күн бұрын
he has schizophrenia and everyone is parading him around social media like he's someone who should be taken seriously. because they want a paycheck.
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 2 күн бұрын
Too bad Terrance didn't realize this. I'm guessing his ego can only take "honest" feedback if it confirms his delusions of grandeur. We should never be surprised when a proffesional actor displays classic symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder. He's been acting so long he believes his own stories and lives his own roles now.
@dickcheney2470
@dickcheney2470 2 күн бұрын
Howard is used to being praised. Science is brutally cold😂
@DustinHawke
@DustinHawke 2 күн бұрын
Then he had to cry about it and Jogan was more than willing to give him the time to spew nonsense and cry victim.
@michaelbrown7142
@michaelbrown7142 2 күн бұрын
I'm impressed, Neil turned being blasted by Tarance Howard into a teaching moment about the importance of science and the peer review. I learn so much from this man.
@diversityparty
@diversityparty 2 күн бұрын
That's the correct answer.
@Jordan-Ramses
@Jordan-Ramses 2 күн бұрын
I think he's a little overconfident in the strength of peer review. It's only as good as the peers who review it. The method itself does not guarantee good results. It only works as long as the people are intelligent and are acting in good faith.
@syloui
@syloui 2 күн бұрын
That's right, if functioning, peer review is very effective at directing truth and falsehood. When it's not functioning you get the replication crisis effecting the social sciences
@melaninmonroe007
@melaninmonroe007 2 күн бұрын
@@Jordan-Ramsesthat’s right. And the peer review is only done by colleagues and superiors who are considered experts in the field. Last paper I submitted for publication, the peer review process was conducted by other doctors in the same field as me with years of experience. The journal I wanted to publish in has a committee of what we consider experts who give their review. That’s what he means. He gave the simplest answer possible but it’s much more thorough than what he presented lol.
@Jordan-Ramses
@Jordan-Ramses 2 күн бұрын
@@melaninmonroe007 yeah. I'm talking about ideology. It works unless the peer system becomes infected with ideology.
@x-armysarge
@x-armysarge Күн бұрын
I'm just a mere mortal, and I could see how kind you were with your observation of another's hypothesis? I'm glad you aren't sheepish or science would be harder.
@davidmartin7163
@davidmartin7163 22 сағат бұрын
Neil’s response was beyond fair and reasonable. When people say preposterous things like the square root statements Terrance made the usual response is to ignore the crazy person making those statements. Neil didn’t have to critique the 36 pages, but did anyway. Well done sir
@BaronVonDergner
@BaronVonDergner 2 күн бұрын
Thanks to the Dunning-Kruger effect I understand my confidence in my intelligence is overrated because my opening thesis in response to his paper would be "Terrence, what the f*ck are you talking about"
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 2 күн бұрын
The immediate problem in his work is apparent to everyone, mathematician or not. His addition is identifying as multiplication.
@god5535
@god5535 2 күн бұрын
I find Dunning-Kruger to be self-condescending and self-flagellation. Sure, overestimation of one's ability is dangerous. But so is underestimation. But no one talks about the latter- especially material scientists in academia who don't have cojones to question authority. We need a balance, not this beta male tendency of "oh oh... I am sure I am so wrong... gee wish I was right" underconfidence. /endrant
@GeTtHeDoG1883
@GeTtHeDoG1883 2 күн бұрын
He doesn’t even know what he’s talking about.
@kashrulez21
@kashrulez21 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 yoooo not the Dunning-Kruger!! So accurate and I ain’t even watch the video 😂😂😂
@ethannhuntt
@ethannhuntt 2 күн бұрын
@@god5535completely disagree, and thank god you arent in our labs and hospitals! if overconfident “alpha males”like you were in the labs then we would never progress
@dontes5009
@dontes5009 9 күн бұрын
The way you handled this should be an used as a conflict resolution example for ALL people.
@keissijumalauta
@keissijumalauta 9 күн бұрын
Man world would be so much better place to live.
@pete4416
@pete4416 9 күн бұрын
He really does have a lot of patience
@markbeames7852
@markbeames7852 9 күн бұрын
which is why the NIH police department has NEVER had to respond to a fist fight on campus between two scientists.
@jeffreyhampton9130
@jeffreyhampton9130 9 күн бұрын
I'd have been murdered in my sleep if I rationally explained to my ex-girlfriend why some of "feelings" were simply wrong.
@loudaddy2001
@loudaddy2001 9 күн бұрын
@@jeffreyhampton9130 LOLOLOLOL. nice one, jeffrey!
@johnwarren4156
@johnwarren4156 22 сағат бұрын
Celebrity drama aside, this is a lesson in the importance of peer review
@thejack390
@thejack390 8 сағат бұрын
The issue is not that Terrence Howard wrote this paper and even tries to defend it. The issue is: he gets a platform via Joe Rogan and has not enough people around him, that can tell him when he is wrong.
@jwhittington78
@jwhittington78 9 күн бұрын
What bothered me most wasn't his thoughts or ideas themselves. It was that SO many people started latching onto them, posting them, and calling others "sheep" if they didn't believe them. There is a large portion of society who just want to be contrarians...they didn't even understand the words he was saying. They just liked that he was opposing mainstream science and math.
@laptoples
@laptoples 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, we're in scary times. Too many people who need a club, team, cult or something to blindly follow. Sophistry rules the day in these groups. That is the scary part of it all !!!!!!
@cyphi1
@cyphi1 9 күн бұрын
If people are genuinely interested in the topics, experimenting and improving knowledge and processes that can be a good thing
@Lockdown335
@Lockdown335 9 күн бұрын
Sadly many of them fall into being political contrarians and lose their moral compasses when criticizing their own "Side", Sadly this same behavior occurs in religion and science aswell.
@AlbertJafar
@AlbertJafar 9 күн бұрын
It’s narcissism. They have an unreasonable need to know something “you” wouldn’t understand. Most conspiracy theorists have narcissistic tendencies.
@TheDementation
@TheDementation 9 күн бұрын
That is so dead on accurate. These conspiracy theory nuts are so uneducated they just want to latch onto something so they can say they know more than you.
@jaybberwocky
@jaybberwocky 2 күн бұрын
*Terrance writes 36 page treatise* Neil: "If you build your foundation out of marshmallow, your house is going to collapse."
@jgs_gamestudio9096
@jgs_gamestudio9096 Күн бұрын
Howard is looking crazy based on what words he put in Niel's mouth...I mean he should know Niel doesn't skirt around his words, if he thinks something is wrong he's says it - its not dissing.
@jaybberwocky
@jaybberwocky Күн бұрын
@@jgs_gamestudio9096 I think it's more a case of mental illness, mis-education, too much time on his hands, and echo chambers of "Yes-Men" following him around all day. Him saying Neil "trashed" his ideas and the works of those they were based on is him reacting on instinct to someone actually challenging his ideas which is clearly something he isn't used to. I highly recommend watching Kyle Hill's break down of the interview.
@Kimking-vh8bq
@Kimking-vh8bq Күн бұрын
Neil, I wonder what you would say to God? Did the great minds get turned out to be accepted. Could there be a different way because at one time you would have said the Earth 🌎 is flat. God is not to be boxed in. Tesla nor any genuis needs your approval. God has shown us everything!!! Keep learning, Neil. Neil man does not everything!
@Kimking-vh8bq
@Kimking-vh8bq Күн бұрын
Man does not know everything
@Dr.Weed8
@Dr.Weed8 Күн бұрын
Theirs a concept of credit or belief that applied here. I definitely trust Neil on this subject than Terrence.
@brendonsyndennis5371
@brendonsyndennis5371 21 сағат бұрын
A ton of people today need to see this video, but I don't know if they would understand it.
@pete4693
@pete4693 Күн бұрын
My guy. Someone who actually did his homework and knows what he is talking about how refreshing. I've heard people call him arrogant, but I can't agree. I think he's just certain about some things I like to hear and talk.
@Uno_Floydd
@Uno_Floydd 7 күн бұрын
"It is the sign of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" -Aristotle
@gabeo9474
@gabeo9474 7 күн бұрын
That would more accurately be described as an "intelligent mind" in modern context. We currently have an abundance of "educated" minds that cannot discern between good ideas and bad ones.
@auturgicflosculator2183
@auturgicflosculator2183 7 күн бұрын
@@gabeo9474 Generally speaking, education improves what intelligence was there to begin with. As the idiom goes, "genius is 1% talent and 99% hard work." ...or inspiration and perspiration, if you want to make it sound fancy.
@Uno_Floydd
@Uno_Floydd 7 күн бұрын
@@gabeo9474 education is not an accurate measurement of intelligence. I agree.
@gabeo9474
@gabeo9474 7 күн бұрын
@@auturgicflosculator2183 The term _improve_ is a little too ambiguous here. Education does not improve intelligence in a measurable quantitative way; rather, it provides more utility through which intelligence can be expressed. Also, that is not an idiom. The meaning of that phrase is entirely deducible from the phrase itself.
@auturgicflosculator2183
@auturgicflosculator2183 7 күн бұрын
Okay, I'll rephrase: Education can enhance development of cognitive skills and knowledge. While education has not been shown to quantitatively increase IQ scores(in most people), it has been shown to quantitatively increase the effectiveness of measurable cognitive abilities such as problem-solving skills, critical thinking, and knowledge acquisition. What you say about utility has merit, here. Education does indeed provide the tools and frameworks that allow individuals to better express and utilize their intelligence. Your point about the "idiom" not being one is technically correct. In a broad cultural context, however, such phrases are often labeled idioms. Our language will evolve, no matter how many pedants kick and scream. 😉
@kylehill
@kylehill 2 күн бұрын
I have to be honest, I have been critical of NdGT's more recent communication styles. However, this is a MASTERCLASS in explaining and applying scientific scrutiny, and I will remember it as such.
@mannyramirez5630
@mannyramirez5630 Күн бұрын
He's great when nobody else is in the room 😂
@BigBroAdverts
@BigBroAdverts Күн бұрын
Omg it's the real kylehill
@VinnyPTAstartes
@VinnyPTAstartes Күн бұрын
Hey there, Science Thor!
@jochenstacker7448
@jochenstacker7448 Күн бұрын
Totally agree. This was indeed enlightening and understandable even for a layperson like myself. Neil was very respectful and explained every single one of his points in a clear and concise manner. If Howard still thinks he was dissed, it's *his* problem.
@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo
@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo Күн бұрын
Nice hair ,nerd ❤
@dthaysjr
@dthaysjr 4 сағат бұрын
I feel like the Dunning-Kruger effect hits a lot of Joe Rogan's guests.
@Grrrnthumb
@Grrrnthumb 20 сағат бұрын
Neil really held back by not calling it a manifesto
@longiniusspear4565
@longiniusspear4565 2 күн бұрын
"You're wrong" isn't an insult, its simply an objective statement.
@TicklesTrout
@TicklesTrout 2 күн бұрын
I just had a few dozen people telling me I'm wrong in the comments because I said you can't just walk across the street at a green light even though there's a crosswalk painted at the intersection. People are so dumb, watch I bet they'll do it here too
@badofcheese
@badofcheese 2 күн бұрын
@@TicklesTroutWhat on earth are you talking about?
@rockybalboagaralhaoitalian4592
@rockybalboagaralhaoitalian4592 2 күн бұрын
More like subjective
@namastewellness
@namastewellness Күн бұрын
Not presumably "objective" but definitely a statement.
@wanderer_oti
@wanderer_oti Күн бұрын
​@@TicklesTroutyou're not supposed to but you can. Pretty sure it's called jaywalking
@RhymesWithPorridge
@RhymesWithPorridge 7 күн бұрын
One of my best early moments as a grad student was when I received a rejection from a peer-reviewed journal. I was so excited that a few fellow scientists had taken the time to read my work -- MY WORK -- carefully and thoroughly and ultimate decided it didn't meet the standard. Few things are more valuable than someone telling you, "This is wrong, here's why, and here's where you can learn more."" I went back to work, guided by their suggestions, and had my first publication only a few months later, which led to my first-ever conference talk. That feeling was indescribable. Folks who want to circumvent that process are missing out!
@Kelberi
@Kelberi 7 күн бұрын
Exactly, we need to sharpen each other! 😍
@Patrick-uh8xj
@Patrick-uh8xj 7 күн бұрын
Well said.
@Moochaa
@Moochaa 7 күн бұрын
Fantastic representation of the scientific process. Thanks for the work you do.
@jacobframe8769
@jacobframe8769 7 күн бұрын
This is good, suppose that their suggestions lead you to improve your understanding of the phenomena being studied. It seems there is plenty of corruption, even in science.
@prospect689
@prospect689 7 күн бұрын
It's great that you got that new sense of discovery
@paulthompson661
@paulthompson661 Сағат бұрын
Forgive my punctuation I’m using Siri, but yes, I listen to the Joe Rogan podcast and I was kinda initially upset hearing that Neil deGrasse Tyson blew him off, but I’m so glad hearing his side of the story. I’m a huge fan. I think I was living in Boise and Neil deGrasse Tyson came to speak there And I missed it but I wish I would’ve gone one day. I’ll see him and meet him in person hopefully!!!
@BadComedy_
@BadComedy_ 9 сағат бұрын
This format is perfect for Neil because there’s no one to interrupt and I actually don’t want him to shut up about something
@MuhammadArshad
@MuhammadArshad 4 күн бұрын
I cried the first time I received the peer reviews on my first research article. I was only 26 yo and thought two year of work was down the drain, my professor and mentor laughed it off, asked me to get it together and get to work on the suggestions and comments of the reviewers. No doubt that after working through those comments, my thesis was in a much better shape. Peer review can be brutal but it’s not a reflection or a comment on your intelligence or (lack of) hard work. Peer review process may be not the ideal solution for objective science, but its probably the only solution research community has right now that kinda works.
@aFoxyFox.
@aFoxyFox. 3 күн бұрын
What did they say you were stating incorrectly?
@Diboh
@Diboh 3 күн бұрын
well you were not a celebrity actor ,if you were maybe your professor and mentor wouldnt have laughed it off,but be nice ,and ask for tickets to your new movie ;),dont let others disrupt you, find peers that oppose and support you, in there u find the truth and answers to your work
@jimmyalfonzo
@jimmyalfonzo 3 күн бұрын
@@Diboh a true peer and colleague will give constructive criticism when they can. People who don’t aren’t helping by entertaining delusion.
@Diboh
@Diboh 3 күн бұрын
@@jimmyalfonzo exactly but sometimes that doesn't seem to be the case in the science community especially when those reviewing have prominent celebrity Status,their ego becomes a problem to their judgement 🤔
@OffshoreITguy
@OffshoreITguy 3 күн бұрын
​@@aFoxyFox.His thesis was on why Terrence Howard should have been the next Iron Man.
@chrismullin9437
@chrismullin9437 9 күн бұрын
One of my favorite sayings reflects the Dunning-Kruger effect: When they give you a bachelor's degree, you think you know everything. They give you a Masters when you realize you don't know anything. And they give you a PhD when you realize no one else knows anything, either!
@grammasgardenofideas5081
@grammasgardenofideas5081 9 күн бұрын
that would apply to both terrence and tyson, methinks
@user-ko7nk9pc9t
@user-ko7nk9pc9t 9 күн бұрын
Isn't that called the " balance of opposites " ?
@ryanjohnson2844
@ryanjohnson2844 9 күн бұрын
Probably incorrect. More like bachelors degree - participation trophy, masters degree - actual intro courses, PhD - specialize in a subject and at the end of the PhD you are finally at the starting line. Many dumb PhD grads. The minority of PhD grads are smart and capable enough to advance the subject, which are often put in research and teaching roles in universities. It’s also why your average PhD grad won’t be a teacher or researcher.
@RobertKehl
@RobertKehl 9 күн бұрын
I’m going to keep it simple. “We think we know because we don’t know” That’s actuality.
@cortical1
@cortical1 9 күн бұрын
Except that a lot of people who are career experts in a given area actually do know a lot about those areas and understand more than other people do about those topics.
@El_Diddler
@El_Diddler 4 сағат бұрын
Idk how much more polite you could have been.
@sylence2012
@sylence2012 13 сағат бұрын
I saw the joe Rohan interview and I watched this video and I def don’t see you being mean in any way or trashing anyone. If anything he should be honored that you read, reviewed and gave your insight the same way as you would have your scientific peers/colleagues .. it’s ok to be wrong he should have taken it in a way that pushes him more to study and relay his thought better, more clearly and with better known science
@ihateroads7926
@ihateroads7926 8 күн бұрын
This is an EXTREMELY patient and gentle response to a man that believes 1*1=2
@G.GordonMidi
@G.GordonMidi 8 күн бұрын
But when *humans* “multiply” they create more humans! Did I just blow your mind!? /s I unironically had this argument made to me multiple times last week (pun intended)
@keevancrawford6708
@keevancrawford6708 8 күн бұрын
Multiplying anything times 0 or 1 suggests you should not be multiplying. 5 x 5 x 5 x 0 = 0 is poor phrasing 1 x 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 is poor phrasing They both suggest there’s nothing (0) to multiply. One suggest you should be adding and the other suggest wtf are you doing wasting my time.
@caanosadax9561
@caanosadax9561 8 күн бұрын
Terrence is lunatic
@OldManShoutsAtClouds
@OldManShoutsAtClouds 8 күн бұрын
​@keevancrawford6708 You're not seriously defending this stupidity are you?
@Goldilush
@Goldilush 8 күн бұрын
to be fair NdGT thinks there's more than 2 sexes.
@Kinsman19
@Kinsman19 3 күн бұрын
The fact that Howard took a straight-forward peer-review as being shat upon is enough to tell me he is not a scientist.
@IndependantMind168
@IndependantMind168 3 күн бұрын
I can't imagine how much he talks about how great and brilliant he is in private crowds let alone conceive how full of himself he is in relationships.
@notinterested8452
@notinterested8452 2 күн бұрын
if you rewatch the disclaimer at the beginning this was never a peer review it was only ever an example of what a peer review would look like IF he deserved it.
@curiousidea
@curiousidea 2 күн бұрын
This.
@Expired.Lettuce
@Expired.Lettuce 2 күн бұрын
When he said he remembered being born he was basically saying hes gifted. I knew deejay was tripping
@kimalonzo4912
@kimalonzo4912 2 күн бұрын
And are you saying that peer reviews aren't biased and political in nature? Are you kidding me right now?
@I-am-a-nomaD
@I-am-a-nomaD 9 сағат бұрын
I watched the JRE podcast and was confused by what TH was saying. Mr. Tyson cleared things up. Very impressive response, and very respectful.
@coralie9469
@coralie9469 12 сағат бұрын
It's amazing how Joe Rogan can bring out the worst in people, with that said Mr Howard certainly wasn't ready for Mr Tyson's critical review!
5 күн бұрын
It gives it so much context. He didn't say "Find someone else, I didn't want to deal with it". He said "I might be wrong, so find another scientist to peer review this".
@cliftonepps451
@cliftonepps451 5 күн бұрын
N.D.T. is a class act for sure. Always has been a diamond.
@LackofFaithify
@LackofFaithify 5 күн бұрын
More than that. He is saying if you think my corrections are wrong, you need to be able to defend why I am wrong to someone other than me that if they agree with you provide the basis for my corrections of your paper being the thing that is wrong, not your ideas you put forth on these pages. So basically go find another authority that agrees Tyson is wrong about what you wrote, is an idiot and here is why. He signed his corrections with his legitimacy and standing as a scientist, which if Terrence was able to convince others that his paper is correct, destroys Tyson's place in the scientific community. No good deed goes unpunished, no time spent ever able to be taken back. Without a police call box or car from the 80s.
5 күн бұрын
@@LackofFaithify true. I'm just responding to Howard's claim that he said look for someone else as if he doesn't want to deal with it. But he just mentioned. Get more peers to edit this ...
@KenanRockmore
@KenanRockmore 5 күн бұрын
Nah , Neil just avoided the real question about the Lynchpin and Allshape because. He's just acting like he can't understand it because it would change Science and mess up his paycheck
5 күн бұрын
@@KenanRockmore I think he made very clear that Howard misunderstood a lot. And got some interpretations wrong. This is peer editing. You can't just act like a spoiled child, if don't like the feedback. There's a reason scientists need to have their discoveries peer edited. 1*1 is unfortunately 1. No matter how much you disagree with it.
@dusty3913
@dusty3913 9 күн бұрын
This is an important video. Not because he explains his interaction with Howard, but because he gives world a much needed reminder of how valuable peer review, the scientific method, and straightforward honesty is. We need this insight now.
@jayph94
@jayph94 9 күн бұрын
100%, the way he just explained peer review was very insightful. I feel like having this video before starting college (or even high school) could prove beneficial
@siy9583
@siy9583 9 күн бұрын
It is important he showed his interaction with Terrence. I was willing to believe Neil got annoyed and was rude about the paper, because he does get snippy about science, but the comments he gave to Terrence that were “vitriol” were absolutely not that. And I won’t be the only one tuning into Neil a bit more frequently because of this clip reminding us he’s a pretty cool guy.
@malaikamckee-culpepper261
@malaikamckee-culpepper261 9 күн бұрын
Amen. Amen. Amen.
@gnarlydewd
@gnarlydewd 9 күн бұрын
"The true essence of duality is a singularity. Likewise, the individual North and South pole magnets are not monopoles, but rather unipoles because a helix can only propagate toward one pole a time. Coincidentally, the mathematical term for either end of any helix is Pole."
@gnarlydewd
@gnarlydewd 9 күн бұрын
Physicist swear this is impossible... They are wrong...
@Steve-bf1uy
@Steve-bf1uy 2 сағат бұрын
There’s a big difference between “nice” and “kind”. I speculate that Terrance Howard probably showed this to many others who either A) did not understand the subject matter at a level in which they felt comfortable probing, or B) just wanted to be nice and didn’t debunk Howard’s work. Dr. Tyson is being kind by pointing out potential holes in Howard’s argument - as the scientific method requires. He is treating Howard as a peer, and isn’t putting on “kid gloves” when he analyzes Howard’s work. A friend will back you up. A good friend will gently tell you when you’re wrong and why.
@galeriadesol948
@galeriadesol948 10 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate Neil de Grasse's response to Terrence Howard. His answer is not disrespectful in any way. That speaks volumes about Neil's integrity as a scientist. I've read many other "responses" from regular Joes that only looked for easy "likes" and were quite insensitive. Kudos to Neil! On the other hand, I find it commendable that Terrence is so interested in scientific topics. Many of his fellow citizens only think about watching TV and drinking beer! I would like Terrence to study some good mathematics texts without prejudice and try to understand other perspectives not to get fixed in his own ideas.
@josephharden5592
@josephharden5592 4 күн бұрын
Terrence should have been HONORED that NDT respected him enough to give a peer review to him. How amazing would it be to have this as a personal keepsake.
@teahgurl
@teahgurl 3 күн бұрын
Yes bc he could have saved his energy all together lol
@Diboh
@Diboh 3 күн бұрын
wow!lmao ,why? is NDT GOd of Science?was he born with the knowledge of science or did he learn science like TH too?,only TH is questioning what he was taught,and Neil is defending what he was taught lmao honored,bet u feel honored when a celebrity says your name lmao
@irinnav5301
@irinnav5301 3 күн бұрын
@@Diboh I can't understand these NDT fanboys. He's full of knowledge, no question there. But why is he so praised? What did he change, what did he invent? He's giving people brain gymnastics, talking about deep space and parallel universes like he has been there. And he's giving himself the freedom to talk about Tesla and some other guys. He understand the current body of work but he doesn't think outside of the box, that's why he's not improving or inventing anything. Just being loud and enjoying his own voice.
@guillermo.marron
@guillermo.marron 3 күн бұрын
We are glad you enjoyed this enough to leave your outside thoughts for us in this box, you should consider inviting some of your peer next to, yeah? ​@@irinnav5301
@MrExcessum
@MrExcessum 3 күн бұрын
Neal peer reviewed a person with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. It was a waste of time, and Howard STILL got mad over it...
@surfgurujeff
@surfgurujeff 3 күн бұрын
How annoying to have to deal with the stress of getting blasted by someone you thought you were doing a favor for. No good deed goes unpunished.
@mightymadrid
@mightymadrid 2 күн бұрын
I really hate that statement, no good deed goes unpunished, it's so true.
@LawsFiveTwo
@LawsFiveTwo 2 күн бұрын
@@mightymadridin renovations, its way too true.
@commonsense3921
@commonsense3921 2 күн бұрын
In the end……..Terrence Howard will be right 😂🤣
@motorizedbikestuff5339
@motorizedbikestuff5339 2 күн бұрын
@@commonsense3921 no he wont.
@b-rayns9482
@b-rayns9482 2 күн бұрын
Shut up
@samuelatchley9689
@samuelatchley9689 13 сағат бұрын
Neil's response and transparency on this clip is profound on so many levels. Worth listening to multiple times. Take notes, pay attention, there's a lot to learn here.
@samanthacomfort3162
@samanthacomfort3162 13 сағат бұрын
This response reminds me of the many kind but honest conversations I have with the littles. I homeschool, so every moment is a teaching moment, and being wrong is an excellent learning opportunity.
@ZbNimble
@ZbNimble 7 күн бұрын
I wish all online discourse was like this. Assertive and respectful.
@HH-zh2os
@HH-zh2os 7 күн бұрын
I prefer "At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
@rrussell9731
@rrussell9731 7 күн бұрын
​@HH-zh2os that's the approach Professor Dave Explains took. It was very entertaining.
@geospatial-KML
@geospatial-KML 4 күн бұрын
Terrance wasn't very respectful... there's a saying... " Correct an intelligent man and he will thank you.. correct a man who is not intelligent and he will hate you" terrance has no intelligence at all.. he is stuck in 3rd grade multiplication, and he believes 1x2 =3
@Quick--
@Quick-- 3 күн бұрын
2:55 Neil dropped a BAR on this diss "if youre a fan of a subject, a HOBBYIST lets call it. its possible to know enough about that subject to think youre right, but not enough about that subject to KNOW that youre wrong"
@realanimal3602
@realanimal3602 3 күн бұрын
That is the way of life. Especially in these times of instant access to a given subject. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of NDT. Often times he comments on subjects outside his subject of expertise. I recall him stating auto companies got the government in the USA to make roads so the car companies cars could be driven. I found this to be a rather odd statement given roads predate cars. However this area is NDTs area of expertise. I think I'll take NDTs side on this one.
@TheRedkid20
@TheRedkid20 3 күн бұрын
Dunning Kruger effect
@chooko1000
@chooko1000 3 күн бұрын
BARRS
@rahulnair4052
@rahulnair4052 2 күн бұрын
That touched!😄
@gabroggery9766
@gabroggery9766 2 күн бұрын
How does he know, he doesnt know enough, its his own intake based on terrace thesis. He could be talking about himself here 😂
@ytuseraccount
@ytuseraccount 2 сағат бұрын
to be fair to the madman some of his sculptures are indeed extremely captivating. He is for sure, a gifted individual. Just not unfortunately, in the ways he believes himself to be if he merely presented himself as an artist and sculptor I'm sure he would be greatly appreciated and respected for his works. rather than an internet laughing stock
@seanaguayo
@seanaguayo 20 сағат бұрын
Thanks professor Tyson, having a voice speak on having theories and ideas peer reviewed and intelligence verified by external sources was refreshing. I've found much of my sadness and disappointment has stemmed from many people blindly following tiktok theories and forum posts without verifying. It's disheartening and to watch humanity's intelligence shrink makes me feel more isolated
@donniethedealer2623
@donniethedealer2623 3 күн бұрын
You can’t reason people out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into
@foxyheart517
@foxyheart517 2 күн бұрын
Christopher Hitchens quote
@duigathem
@duigathem 2 күн бұрын
listen to people high as a kite talking is more interesting than listen Neil, he is annoying as fck
@jax1411
@jax1411 2 күн бұрын
damn, that's kinda deep!
@adot824
@adot824 2 күн бұрын
Stealing that
@jax1411
@jax1411 2 күн бұрын
@@adot824 🤣
@riotking77
@riotking77 3 күн бұрын
Welp Terrance just uninvited himself to the nerd cookout
@FitGoddess369
@FitGoddess369 3 күн бұрын
😂
@TheEighthDwarf
@TheEighthDwarf 3 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@celiashen5490
@celiashen5490 3 күн бұрын
Is it a virtual cookout?
@notinterested8452
@notinterested8452 3 күн бұрын
@@celiashen5490 it exists in multiple dimensions actually.
@riotking77
@riotking77 3 күн бұрын
@@celiashen5490 just wait for the tardis to show up. No one is missing this… except Terrance
@dylanbond3011
@dylanbond3011 6 сағат бұрын
The TRUE objective (to push Terrence Howard to greatness) is beautiful.
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