My Scag Cheetah II Mower is Back, but is it fixed?

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@dennisstoner5079 2 жыл бұрын

Man, that sucks! I know when we got our Scag this summer I was like a kid at Christmas waiting to mow. I can understand the frustration. It's "nice" the dealer is good to work with, but in your defense, you did drop quite a stack of Benjamins on the mower to purchase it, so the expectation would be that they are good about it. I find it amazing that the stop was fast enough, and solid enough with enough torque to loosen a blade.

@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh, is this your first mower? You show me any mower including zero turns whose belts don't vibrate and I'll tell you , you better start the engine! Had countless mowers over the past 40+ years and that belt your showing is one of the smoothest running. I would just enjoy that nice mower and quit looking for problems that don"t exist.

@davidbaker1359 2 ай бұрын

I’ve been using that same mower now for 5 years and I cut 22 acres and have never had a issues with mine.

@quintinwilliams8285 Жыл бұрын

I been having drive belt with my tiger cat 2 am somewhat like you but I am so tired of walking back to the house but I like the mower so it's in the shop for the third time in my 4th year of Owen it. In the shop now I just purchased a Gravely . keep the scag and hope that they will make the correct repairs one day.

@ScottSalmonInc 4 ай бұрын

Scag buys the spindles. Probably 1 in 20,000 go bad and Scag is known for good quality mowers.

@1EVILZ06 5 ай бұрын

Mine does the same. Scag cheetah 61 FX921V. Belts been jumpy from day one.

@RetroManVideos Жыл бұрын

Another mystery of the universe. For every story I see like this, I'll see another of someone with something like a 15 year old Troy-Bilt Pony lawn tractor with hundreds of hours, still running even though it's been abused & the maintenance neglected.

@georgiafan6618 2 жыл бұрын

This is a necessary follow up. I may not have discovered that paint missing near the pulley indicating an underlying problem. That occurred at the dealer during repair and indicates something is wrong above and beyond a spindle perhaps. The dealer’s mechanics/techs in my area are clueless. Perhaps a bent pulley or two? Had you waited or ignored it, you’d be stuck paying for repairs on an expensive mower. This isn’t drama, it’s careful diagnosis. Remember Home Depot would have taken back their entry level mower already.

@mikecooley3361 Жыл бұрын

I’ve only had one spindle failure on a commercial mower, it had 2300+ hours on it and also drove a slave sheave that turned a vacuum system. I’d have to chalk this up to the small percentage of failures that occur. Usually if there is a defect it’ll show up early on rather than later. How everything got sorted out. I’ve run exmark and Walker for over 2 decades and have been considering a scag for my next mower, no longer cut commercial but have a large lot I own. I’ll never buy non-commercial equipment after running them for so long. Probably outlast me at this point.

@Bass.Player Жыл бұрын

Yeah that belt movement is normal for my 61" 20 year old Husqvarna commercial. Two belts and no spindles on this machine since new...

@jimbauer5560 2 жыл бұрын

JD, its up to you, I would take it back, and either get a different one or ask for a complete refund. To few hours for it to break down.

@craigtaylor8370 2 жыл бұрын

Because that's the way it works! You apparently have never heard of a warranty period.

@votered1552 2 жыл бұрын

I man made things break. The spindle was manufactured wrong. I mow commercially fhe past 30 years. I have owned many scats with over 2000 hours on many of them and never had a bad spindle.

@quadbilly2106 2 жыл бұрын

I have been a fan for awhile. I believe you are making a moutain out of a mole hill. 1 spindle failed so obviously it was defective from manufacturing. It was corrected immediately so there is nothing to complain about. Scag has been known for quality and dependability. I am definitely not a fan boy of any mower brand. I have owned many and worked on them, I have never seen a premature failure that early in the spindles life, so I would assume that 1 defective spindle in the 10's of thousands they sell doesn't create any cause for concern

@kc9146 2 жыл бұрын

He absolutely is!

@artderamo8053 Жыл бұрын

Mine does the same thing....1.6 scag cat 2..but my springs were hitting my deck so I cut pieces of that Styrofoam out so now the springs don't hit. But the belt does flop around..before I started running my mower I greased my spindles now I have to check my rpms to make sure it's at 3600,

@mokkie1388 2 жыл бұрын

Goats are cheaper and many parts are edible if they fail. Sounds like Scag may have some issues with quality control.

@votered1552 2 жыл бұрын

You bought the best mower made. You got a bad spindle. I have over 10,000 hours on scag mowers and never replaced a spindle.

@artderamo8053 Жыл бұрын

I hope mine last for 10 to 15 years, I'm 60 now, but ya I was like damb. Belts flopping and springs hitting, but when it's up full blast the one belt don't flop so bad, also check your pulleys make sure they all line up, my idler pulley was a little lower so I put a space washer, now it's not so bad, but like you said...1.6 hours, and get this. I bought it 2 hours away but when I brought it to a closer scag, they wouldn't help..w.t.f, they said I had to bring it were I bought it, what if I moved out of state, they talk alot of shit till they have to fix it then it's a whole different story

@jmartin8604 2 жыл бұрын

The belts do vibrate. However, I would make them replace the other two spindles. Chances are they didn’t get greased initially, prior to the purchase. That’s part of the dealer’s responsibility in installation. I don’t think it’s a Scag issue, but rather a service department issue.

@paulshannon4576 2 жыл бұрын

Problem is you will always be waiting for it to break. 😕

@wesleydean4228 Жыл бұрын

The spindles are some of the best in the industry. It was obviously a manufacturer defect. It’s fixed, let it ride. The belt is going to shake a bit no matter what you do. Also, with all due respect, you should not depend on someone else to grease. Always check.

@jacobkirkpatrick7978 2 жыл бұрын

I have a cheetah 2 with 61 velocity as well. It has around 150 hrs and the belt has always slightly vibrated.

@danskinner467 4 ай бұрын

Maybe the tensioner was damaged during the spindle siezing up! The tensioner is there to take up the slack. They should swap out that deck for another one and start fresh for that kind of money. It's very hard to forget a bad incident that wasn't addressed properly and that alone puts a bad taste in your mouth, enough that it would cause you to look at other brand names.

@Nothin638 3 ай бұрын

Bruh, I bought the same mower. 6 hours of use, and i filled the tanks with fuel. The right tank started pissing fuel through a pin hole on a seam. It's really not a huge deal. I returned the mower to the dealership, and they are putting a new tank on it. Sure, it's a frustrating deal, but I think it's just part of working the kinks out. They are super beast mode mowers, so im looking forward to many years of fun mowing, with some comfort that a lot of others dont offer. Best of luck on yours, mate.

@garrettbedford1795 2 жыл бұрын

Kubota zero turn guy for mowing country acreage best out there

@raydelgado3356 Ай бұрын

I just got a 2024 tiger cat 2 26 hp my was leaking hydraulic fluid the first day

@keithjones8033 2 жыл бұрын

I have your exact model cheetah II that is 6 months old and it has the same belt deflection, very noticeable at idle, and like yours not as much at higher throttle, I now have 30+ hrs on it and it mows fine and I believe it to be completely normal.

@ricbailey170 2 жыл бұрын

Just run it for a few weeks on your property, cut tall grass at highest setting, then recut at desired setting. You’ll see how the belts sets in, the pulleys-run, and just break it in. At 15 hrs or so see what you think. Give it some time now. Just MHO.

@lesr5737 2 жыл бұрын

Okay I get it you're disappointed. I have spent $150,000 on a machine and have had troubles from the very beginning first day out and never had another day's trouble afterwards. It could have been a bad spindle maybe it was not greased or what I suspect is that the blade was never tightened down and it had some wobble in it and it destroyed the spindle. So you can only blame it that one area the spindle area it's fixed it's over with don't get yourself in a frenzy over it. His far as the belt vibrating back and forth up and down that is normal in anything I've ever owned or run when you get a long distance between spindles naturally if there's no guide wheel there it's going to move back and forth. Either traded in for something else or prove to your audience in yourself that she is an awesome piece of equipment that's your two choices run with it or trade it in Kama story over unless there ends up being more to the story

@thechroniclesofmaintenance4192 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of the bearings used today are made from an alloy called Chineseium, Just saying... I'd check blade balance too.

@averyprolawncare5273 2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir I run Scag mowers with velocity decks. That belt play is normal ... made me nervous for a while when new... but one of mine has 2300 hours on it and even néw belts and spindles through the years still slap around like that.... can’t beat the stripes on the scag 👍🏻

@LordFalconsword 2 жыл бұрын

Aside from a major breakdown before I went through 1/4 of a tank of gas, and strange wear patterns, it's great.

@todd3090 2 жыл бұрын

You bought the right machine. Keep an eye on it, but dont regret the cheetah purchase. They are fantastic, long lasting machines. I've run many brands.

@michaelmorse5818 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a Scagg cheetah for three years and I cut my 7 acre yard once a week from beginning of year did in the year and then the app never had a problem with nothing maintain it keep all change. Keep everything great no issues whatsoever and I know people that Heather Skaggs were spindles lash 1015 years I just don’t go out shopping though thank you Bader drop the ball on

@Dutch5573 Ай бұрын

I just bought a new cheetah model 2 1 hour of mowing the seat is absolutely terrible I called Scag they said if I didn't like the mower go trade it in and buy another one wtf?

@petercriscuolo8383 2 жыл бұрын

We had a SCAG for commercial use. We still have it but we went to 60in Toro with Kohler 25HP engines. Cutting landfills with them for years. Tall grass and little to no issues with them. And we got them for half the price of a SCAG. Also make sure the blades are balanced. Unbalanced blades can wreak havoc.

@mikecooley3361 Жыл бұрын

Also, never assume a brand new blade in balanced. I sharpen them on the side and you wouldn’t believe how many new blades are out of balance. Thank goodness for the magnamatic balancer.

@danrascal4045 2 жыл бұрын

That seems to be a major vibration after repairs. The original issue might have caused some other parts to warp or misalign permanently causing this vibration. Not to mention the evidence of poor workmanship by the dealer.

@brucebaughman3283 2 жыл бұрын

I have owned and operated a lawn company for 33 years. I am semi retired but still do all of the maintenance and repairs on my equipment. The belt burn was likely from the belt when the spindle locked up. I see belts hop off like that a lot. Mostly from the guys starting the blades in extremely tall grass or hitting something that stops the blades. I replace about a dozen spindles a year. They are not are well made as they used to be. There had to be something wrong with that spindle though. I have never had one lock up. That being said, like RV's mower manufacturers used pretty much all the same parts. More commercial mowers may use more heavy duty parts than homeowner models but basically the same. The belt shake is normal. If you looked at it the day you bought it it would have like had the same shake. If you start getting belt shake that you can feel in your seat look foe a bad spindle or bent pully. Maybe the worse shake I ever had on a mower was when a small pine cone got stuck in a pully. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

@georgiafan6618 2 жыл бұрын

I think it was a bad spindle that resulted in a bent pulley or pulleys. When something let’s go, peripheral damage may result. His dealer has to anticipate this phenomenon. Years ago, these machines were more simple, less costly, lighter. Not so today. That said, the Scag has amazing quality and intuitive design. I’d contact Scag and have them send out a rep - resolve it or return mower.

@DH-hp7nv 2 жыл бұрын

Well I won’t tell you what you shoulda got, just my opinion…. i had a bush hog ztr at one time and hated having to worry about greasing bearings all the time, especially when i was working my equipment in a business setting. Replaced that with two exmarks that only need to have the idler greased like once a year. I put a few thousand hours on one and replaced the engine and she is still running just fine today. Other one has almost 800 hours on it and i have only replaced one pulley in its entire life. Exmark parts are ridiculously expensive also so join the club.

@midlife101 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I own a 2021 SCAG Tiger Cat ll with the 52 inch velocity deck. I noticed when mowing the harmonics change up and down in pitch. I hope I'm explaining myself correctly like a HMMMmmmmHMMMmmmm. I took the mower back to the dealer after 10 hours. The mechanic and I both thought the noise is vibrated through the self adjusting spring(s) tension. Nothing was done at the dealer other then some reassurance.

@bretts9149 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a John Deere Commercial 930M for 5 years no issues at all. I have only changed the oil and blades. It’s got about 400 hours on it. I have a neighbor and a friend who I recommend the same mower too. They have both had engine problems on theirs one about 10 hours in and the other was under warranty as well. Maybe it’s infant mortality due to quality of components issues? They don’t make them like they used to. Good luck on your Scag let us know how it all works out. Big Truck Big RV needs more Ranch content!!!

@benjaminhrabina4194 Жыл бұрын

I have a cheetah 2 also 72” cut. The belts were installed incorrectly. That how mine came new. Glad the guy selling em noticed it and corrected it before the first cut

@greenpro8544 Жыл бұрын

I have been running Scag for 20 years. I have had a lot of the models in that time. I have only had to replace a handful of spindles in all those years and they were all on used machines. I still have in my fleet a 2010 turf tiger with a 61 inch velocity deck with over 8000 hrs on the spindles. I did have one new machine that had a problem breaking belts. After breaking about 10 belts, Scag actually gave me a whole new machine. So I can’t complain. Also, in that time, I have owned lots of other brands and yet I still prefer the Scag. I just got the same cheetah ll it has about 45 hrs on it now and no problems.

@michaelmorse5818 Жыл бұрын

That is not normal what that would tell me it was the people you bought it from they didn’t do their checklist before they issued it. Do you do be sure that everything was grease and all that we should be later supposed to do and they didn’t do it they spindles have to be greased.

@sconner 2 жыл бұрын

We ran a scag turf tiger on our very rough rocky property for many years. The most reliable mower we’ve ever had. Thing would mow rocks and keep chugging. Let her eat and see. Belts will move like that, don’t worry about that.

@piercem56 Жыл бұрын

Turf tiger deck is shaft driven. Totally different beast.

@jossiahcollins9717 2 жыл бұрын

The belt vibration is not uncommon, due to the length of the belt its inevitable, and yes I do have the vibration on mine and have had no failures with the machine, the only real problem outside of common wear that I've experienced is broken blades due to the rocky nature of Texas. If you feel the vibration is out of your comfort zone then bring it up to the dealer maybe the can lessen it. And yes I do have the cheetah.

@guntherflume7129 2 жыл бұрын

Scag spindles are tapered roller bearings ,I own 16 scags , been in the biz 40 years I have never had a spindle failure, I’m sure they will buy it back if you aren’t happy exmark or toro are also good but in my opinion Scag makes a solid unit ‘ good luck

@piercem56 Жыл бұрын

Scag doesn’t do buy back went up the chain all the way to the top with my Cheetah 2 that has bad deck vibrations. Every now and then a manufacturer lets one go out the door with bad quality control.

@mcarthurburke6805 2 жыл бұрын

I have 2007 Scag Wildcat with a 52 inch deck and I had the same problem with one of my spindles within a year or two of personal use on 5 acres. They had to replace the spindle and tension spring. My belt on my Scag still shakes in 2022, but they fixed the problem. My mower was under warranty.

@kenjones5403 2 жыл бұрын

Had a Kubota, with a mid deck for years. One spindle replaced after years. No belts replaced.

@steveboyd582 2 жыл бұрын

If you are still concerned about it, take it out any mow alot of Grass. 3 hours or so..run the hell out of it while it's still under warranty! They said they fixed it. Try it out.

@dancarlin5434 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly right now every industry is affected by a total lack of quality control on parts, and occasionally finished products, I install blinds for a living ad have been seeing blinds come out of the box with internal components that were obviously broken before the blinds were assembled (no sign of broken pieces). I have also seen it in random items i purchase personally, out of the box problems of every sort. IMHO it is down to pandemic layoffs resulting in factory's hiring new people that either dont know broken from not broken or are being pushed so hard on productivity that they stop caring or dont notice broken parts.

@mmartin156 2 жыл бұрын

With a 60" deck, that little bit of belt vibration is common and nothing to be concerned about. Scag is one of the best commercial mowers out there and also one of the best cutting mowers. They have one of the highest blade rpm of any brand mower. This results in a clean cut through thick grass. You should be aware that if your soil is sandy, you will go through blades pretty quickly due to dulling by friction of the sand that they suck up with the grass. Be prepared to buy a new set after about 3 to 5 cuts on your property. You can save money by replacing them after 3 cuts and sharpening the old blades a couple of times. You have a quality mower that just had a problem that is uncommon. Sometime things just happen. Be sure that you keep the mower greased and you shouldn't have that problem again. Read your manual and learn how to do your owm maintenance. It'll save you time, money and headaches.

@UncleChester 2 жыл бұрын

I cut grass commercially. I have a Scag. If you had gone to the bobcat dealer and bought a piece of equipment would you expect them to maintain it and grease it and check the oil and fill it with fuel every time it is used? Sure, things can be overlooked at the dealer but that is not an excuse for not knowing and understanding how to maintain a very expensive piece of equipment. I think all the finger pointing is in the wrong direction. But that is just my opinion derived from what I've seen in two videos.

@countrycutsk8677 11 ай бұрын

Hey my friend after seeing your video and review, I can tell you a couple of things that I have found out owning Scagg products for the last 10 years. The machines I’ve owned are turf, tiger, two and tiger cat 2 and v rides. That being said, I have found out from the manufacturer that these machines are shipped without oil without grease without hydraulic fluid. When it gets to the dealership, they are supposed to take it out of the crate, set it up add all fluids, hydraulic, grease oil, gas, and make sure everything else is in place like the deck being leveled, but just like my dealership they failed to do that. They put gas in it some hydraulic oil, I sent it out the door they could care less if your were deck is pitch right. So if you are a Scagg owner, you need to be a little bit of a handyman/mechanic to do your own maintenance and set up. If you rely on a dealership, you will fail furthermore, talking about the belt vibration I’ve had the same problem with the same idler arm that is on the Scagg turf tiger, two that idler arm from day one was shaking. I remedied that by changing out the bearing that hold the idler arm to the deck. It’s a shame that you pay a lot of money for a machine and you have to do this on a brand new machine. Welcome to the club.

@djaubreyclark7307 2 жыл бұрын

A little bit off movement is normal

@marshallcaudle3321 2 жыл бұрын

It's easy to monday morning armchair quarterback a decision. Hindsight is always 20/20. You picked it over other makes for a reason. I don't have any issues out of my push mower (used to own a riding mower and boat but had to sell when my dad died) but if I did, I would swap it out once. If it was me, I'd request a new one or a refund and try the same model again. I believe in second chances both with people and products. That's just my opinion. I'd never heard of Scag before now so I guessed you would do Kubota or a John Deere. Good luck with whatever you decide to do sir. I enjoy the videos.

@paultasker9759 2 жыл бұрын

Been running scrags for years. That belt movement is normal. Never had any issues with them either, thousands of hours zero issues running commercially. Scags are bulletproof at least suppose to be. Sorry you are dealing with issues. Make sure your blade shafts are always greased, makes a big difference if they arnt.

@caseypries7559 2 жыл бұрын

This is equipment, not an RV. You shouldn't have problems with them this quickly. As far as the belt bounce it doesn't look abnormal to me. We ran eXmarks and I think that was pretty normal. I like that eXmark spindles were ungreasable so you didn't have to worry about it. We put hundreds of hours on them without major issue. Eventually things happen but you shouldn't have problems already. 10 years ago when i was in the industry eXmark had something like 60% of the commercial lawn care market and there was a reason why. That's also why Toro snatched them up.

@Pistolpete338 2 жыл бұрын

Exmark Lazer z FTW

@ngmont 2 жыл бұрын

I mow 4.5 out of my 7 acres with a Husqvarna Z542. It has made it through a few hundred hours but honestly a homeowner grade tractor is what it is. Homeowner grade. Next time I will pay the additional money for a commercial grade mower. If you have the chance to di this now, take it.

@natey891 2 жыл бұрын

Usually some belt shaking is normal. My $10k zero turn has some paint rubbed off too from the belt. Scag only makes the frame and deck. Everything else they outsource. Exmark uses sealed bearings on the spindles so no grease maintenance. My next zero turn will be a John Deere Ztrak commercial mower

@wr6904 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely make sure the bearings are greased! You can actually grease sealed bearings. Look it up. The grease zerks do not actually grease the bearings! That is actually very deceptive! Check that out for sure!

@bltinlvnv 2 жыл бұрын

Demand the Deck/Mower be replaced. Who knows what else “could possibly” be damaged out of whack. Come on, 1.9 hrs then U get it back with another 0.9 hrs run time from shop. Something happened while in their hands. Good luck.

@akbychoice 2 жыл бұрын

Wild how the camera lens makes one pulley morph into different shapes.

@edwardhilburn9722 Жыл бұрын

I have a Scag cheetah to the same as yours vibration is not normal

@distinctiverenovations8314 2 жыл бұрын

I would say since your deck locked up you might have stretched the idler Polly Springs since that belt kept on getting wrapped on whatever that black bar that you mentioned in your video which might have made the Springs looser which is why you're seeing a more vibration

@stevenfoster5737 2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with those who say it's refund time. That's a lot of money tied up and who knows what else may be damaged. For that price your issues are ridiculous. My last zero turn was a Great Dane Super Surfer. It mowed like a champ but after hernia surgery I decided to purchase a used John Deere GX335. Obviously I can't mow as quickly as before and I do have more trimming to do. With that said the comfort of the ride is well worth the switch. Zero turn mowers are awesome machines but they are quite jarring to operate.

@caryholt54 2 жыл бұрын

Not an expert and not sure how normal that amount of belt slap is. Does the dealer have a like model on the lot to run and compare? I personally would want to just verify that the middle spindle also hasn't been tweaked at all and also verify the blades are perfectly straight and make sure neither are causing added vibrations. The way you described a loud noise and the tractor stalling makes it sound to me like a blade may have got out of time, for whatever reason, and then hit the adjacent one stopping them abruptly. It just seems unusual that a spindle would lock up solid all of a sudden.

@vincentrolfe1384 Жыл бұрын

I do not like the wobble you exhibit in that deck drive belt. I have experience with pulleys and drive belts on cars and printing presses. The 48" Scag belt drive I bought new had one spark plug that was not firing evenly and after a 2 years I replaced the plugs and the misfire went away. Scag had a very poor exhaust header design and overheats the cylinder head on the right hand side causing reversion and this tends to age that cylinder spark plug and I get an uneven idle sound. That Scag header is crude being angled so flow from one cylinder is fighting the other cylinder.

@toddprovis7534 2 жыл бұрын

If I were you I would slightly loosen the nut on the bad spindle and try wiggling it back and forth. If there is slack in it , that would cause it to vibrate, and premature bearing failure. If there is no wiggle to it with the nut slightly loose , tighten that nut back up and cut some grass!👍

@JamesOwens-pz9oe Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong it's a great mower. Probably no grease from factory I have.

@newfization 2 жыл бұрын

I've worked on those triple decks, when the spindle froze the belt, because it's so new, stopped instead of sliding. That much torque is way more than the tensioners are designed for and it pulled everything out of alignment. You shouldn't see that much belt slap on a new deck. Give it a few hundred hours and some spindle wear and that's what it will look like. Send it back. No question. The paint wear (this is conjecture now) probably came when they replaced the spindle and tried the old belt which was damaged and likely just skipped right off a sheave.

@andreabond3501 11 ай бұрын

Got a Scag 30 Walkbehind when mine is running also a lot of vibration my blade engage cable snaps after 12 hrs

@seastacker8582 2 жыл бұрын

Now imagine if you were a pro and this thing was down at 2 hours…. Or even 50 hours as you said. Time is money. This sort of stuff should not be happening. Makes me think your dealer may be lacking a little PDI….

@juanlujan1780 9 ай бұрын

My is doing the same thing the belt is shaking and has a vibration on the deck 😒😒

@grgygantz6760 Жыл бұрын

Trade for a Turf Tiger.

@brandoncaldwell95 2 жыл бұрын

Ferris is1500z 48in 3 blade. No movement when new, no problems at 1000hrs. I dont have the front shocks on anymore as they are expensive. Scag has a lot of issues. Everyone i know that has one they are brocken. Should have gone Ferris 🤷‍♂️ I do work on mowers and flip them. Scag is the worst! The best was a dealer john deere LX176 and a GX345. Those lowes tractors are all the same underneath as they are all made by the same company and you pay for the name.

@brianfranklin5880 2 жыл бұрын

Should of gotten a deer lol but I love scagg tho

@justinsnyder6256 10 ай бұрын

Those are sealed bearings no grease point.

@BigTruckBigRV 10 ай бұрын

No sealed my friend. There are zerks on all 3 spindles.

@Baloghjonathon 2 жыл бұрын

All I can think about is someone starting a lawn care business and this happening at the start. This would be crippling.

@dalemarshall9736 2 жыл бұрын

My son's friend is a power equipment dealer and he just took in a Scag Cheetah on a trade with very low hours so not sure of the story behind it but maybe his experience was less than stellar too.

@loriw2661 2 жыл бұрын

My brother has one so I asked him. He’s never had a problem but his neighbor has 2 of them and told him that one of them had no lubrication in it and the same thing happened to him. After he fixed it and oiled it up, he’s never had a problem since. I didn’t ask about the play in the belt though, I forgot about that. Sorry.

@OUSWKR 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen belts flex that much on other brand/type of mowers. If you look at an older car from the 60’s or 70’s with V-belts they have deflection in them when running. That’s partially why car makers went to s serpentine belt design.

@SLCFarms 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to buying anything during this covid crap. Man I got a couple new pieces of equipment and have had nothing but issues after issues

@chrisheiser9207 2 жыл бұрын

My husqvarna stand on zero turn belts slap around just like your scag. I was concerned when I purchased it with 70hrs, i had the dealer throw in an extra belt but they also assured me that its normal for the belt to do that.

@williamweirjr9749 Жыл бұрын

Do they have a key you can take out so it can't be cranked

@crodriguez8228 2 жыл бұрын

JD, completely agree with you! I considered a Scag but in the end went with a Bad Boy Renegade. I have noticed a similar belt deflection at lower RPMs. However, at WOT, there's absolutely no deflection and no vibration on the deck. I believe Scag is a quality product, I just got a better deal with my BB dealer. Based on the video, I suspect that one of the other spindele or idler bearings is about to fail. There shouldn't be that much deflection under "normal" conditions. In the end, you still have a great mower and you'll know everything like the back of your hand! /r Chris

@95dodgev10 2 жыл бұрын

My 54" simplicity always had atleast that much belt movement maybe a bit more. My ferris i haven't paid attention to but in general belt movement is normal on belts diving solely off friction. Cogged belts and such that actually have a tooth engaging teeth on the pulley thats a different story.

@lavalleeturfcare7523 2 жыл бұрын

My original Vride has almost 2000 hours on the orignal spindles. My new Vride 2 bought in May is at like 400hrs and doing good. Has to be it wasn't greased.

@mikedeiana1504 2 жыл бұрын

I will make sure I use it and use it hard to make sure it’s OK if it happens again I would want a new machine so document everything make sure you have pictures a lot of money to have that stupid problem like I said if it happens again make them take it backEither give you a new machine or a refund

@MississippiMacJac Жыл бұрын

I have this same unit. Can someone tell me how to lift the entire seat platform to get to the hydrostatic unit covers so I can remove them to change the hydro oil? I'm not talking about raising the seat itself. Thanks

@Watchtalkin2 2 жыл бұрын

I have no experience with mowers. From an outside perspective it seems to be a lemon and I’d ask for a straight replacement or refund. Too much money for it to cause anxiety on if it is performing ok or is broken.

@brianreilly429 2 жыл бұрын

With the rapid stop of the belt when it locked up and engaging the PTO a few times with it locked up, there is probably a flat spot in the belt. That will give you a vibration.

@ricwestdoesitwork 2 жыл бұрын

The place that fixed the spindle which I know is where you purchased your mower could just send a tech out to your property and check it. To me that would be a little more cost effective than sending someone out to pick it up again, take the mower to the shop and have it checked by the technician, then deliver it it back you. They could cut the trips by 2. Save on gas or diesel and time especially if the technician tells you that is normal for the belt and all is good. If not the technician could fix it right there if it’s just an adjustment issue.

@luke8210 2 жыл бұрын

I'd be getting my 15k back. That this is a lemon.

@lkj0822g 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know about Scag, but on both my zero turns, the spindles have grease zerks, but if you take the spindle apart, they use sealed bearings. I still haven't figured that one out. LOL Personally, I think Murphy's Law reared it's ugly head and you were the recipient of a defective spindle. I would wager Scag outsources components such as that, most likely to an offshore manufacturer. I agree with you that $200 sounds pricey for a spindle. It might be worth your while to take the blades off for inspection and ensure they are balance. Also, take the belts off and spin the pulleys by hand to see if they are indeed spinning freely with no play. Finally, inspect the pulleys to ensure no debris has embedded itself in the v-groove - I have had that happen on several occasions and it creates belt vibration.

@joebarry1974 Жыл бұрын

How many hours did you do again.. 😂

@cwtex59 2 жыл бұрын

My Hustler has sealed spindles and still going strong after 15 years . Have had to replace idle pulleys a couple of times .

@randyoliver4973 2 жыл бұрын

Dixie chopper.

@rhyan4321able Жыл бұрын

What type of drive terrain is in the back, Hydro Gear, or the Tuff Torq?

@henryc2253 2 жыл бұрын

JD, I here you asking for feedback, but your tone already knows the answer! You will always be waiting for the next thing to break on THIS machine. Take it back and get a replacement my friend, you’ll sleep much better. Too many issues with this mower, my spidey senses are going off. BTW did they replace the rollover bar pin, you didn’t mention that in the video?

@johnrenterprises2604 2 жыл бұрын

With your concerns you should document in writing to the dealer and ask for a written reply. Be sure to ask what they were doing when they put that hours worth of run time. If they say this is normal I would use it for say 3 hours to check it out in heavy grass. I had one yard with my Scag that should have been done with a brush hog. My Tiger Cat cut it no problem. Still using it and this is its 6th year. Whatever you do if you get a refund go Xmark or Ferris if there is a reputable dealer. Good dealers are worth their weight in gold. Commercial mowers move to the head of the line for repairs at my dealer. They know your mowers are your income.