My Thoughts on Assassin's Creed Shadows Controversy

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27 күн бұрын

Ever since the Assassin's Creed Shadows trailer was released there has a great deal of discussion and controversy surrounding a single element that was presented. I feel the need to share my thoughts on all of this.
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@kamruzzamanuzzal3764
@kamruzzamanuzzal3764 21 күн бұрын
here's the thing: "Game Designer At Ubisoft Claims To Reveal Original Plan Behind ‘Assassin’s Creed Shadows’ That Featured Japanese Monk As The Main Character" and "Game designer Chris Fisk claims that Ubisoft originally planned to tell the story of a Japanese monk turned assassin in Assassin’s Creed Shadows rather than Yusuke.". this revalation made them go even more crazy
@blakehenriques3005
@blakehenriques3005 25 күн бұрын
Same here with Odyssey, one of my favorites, played all DLCs! You are not alone
@DarkGoblin-vs9dg
@DarkGoblin-vs9dg 22 күн бұрын
she's so stealth everyone is talking about saske
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 22 күн бұрын
That's a funny way to think about it. She's so stealthy people forget she's in the game.
@DarkGoblin-vs9dg
@DarkGoblin-vs9dg 22 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer have a nice day brother. my friend said they should make the shinobi the old ac style and the samurai should be the new rpg style would be awesome . something for everyone i think
@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99
@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99 25 күн бұрын
I mean the afro samurai game had a black man in futul japan and know one had a issue lol
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 25 күн бұрын
I love Afro Samurai.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99
@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99 25 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer same!
@TerminatorJuice
@TerminatorJuice 22 күн бұрын
Excellent video, and I agree that the whole "historical accuracy" argument is dumb when talking about it in the context of the mail protagonist... But if they're going to represent feudal Japan, then you would hope the dev team would do their research and represent the culture properly. Which I've already seen a couple examples of where they messed up some details, which suggest they may not have had a consultant helping them.
@siloPIRATE
@siloPIRATE 22 күн бұрын
9:53 Yasuke was real. The only point I’ve seen that’s under debate between various sources is whether he made the rank of samurai. Most sources seem to agree that he was a warrior of some kind with a few saying that he was a retainer (I think that’s just a sort of servant). All agree that he served under Oda Nobunaga having been brought by the Jesuits. At least one source says he was a bodyguard to the Jesuits and that source (can’t verify it) says he came to Japan via India where he was a warrior who earned his way out of slavery and decided to work on a mercenary basis
@solreavir
@solreavir 22 күн бұрын
The reason they are Arguing against him being a Samurai because it's about Diminishing him and Yet he was held with enough reverance by Team Ninja to be a boss in NIOH
@relmcheatham
@relmcheatham 14 күн бұрын
the historiography issue is that no source outright calls Yasuke a samurai. He is stated to be a retainer of Nobunaga, which for the late sengoku jidai made Yasuke of an equivalent status of a samurai in all but name. Samurai as a word refers to the act of serving a lord, and though what 'service' is rendered changed with the times a lot, Yasuke rose to the same status as his contemporary samurai whether people called him a samurai or not. He is popularly depicted as a samurai in a wealth of japanese media, because whether he or others at his time considered him a samurai or not is a matter of academic debate over terms and identification and actualization of them vs the practical meaning. The people outraged do not care about whether one at the time could be considered a samurai without owning some form of land, attending certain rituals, etc etc they outright deny that he reached a status where he could have been considered a samurai by his contemporaries.
@jds4696
@jds4696 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Brian.
@wavetactics13
@wavetactics13 21 күн бұрын
Including Yasuke as a main character does have one major downside. It limits the timeframe the game can take place in. Yasuke was in Nobunaga's service for about 15 months and Japan in total for about 3-4 years. I'm not opposed to playing as Yasuke, but for how long the game was anticipated I was hoping to see the game explore more of Japanese history than the brief time he was around for.
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 21 күн бұрын
Having a limited time period is nothing new to the franchise. AC: Revelations took place over the period of Just 1 year. Origins was 6 years and Blackflag was 7 years. So it is something that can work.
@wavetactics13
@wavetactics13 21 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer Maybe it can, but there are decades of history before and after that time that we probably won't see what AC's take on it is. Which is a bummer when I think about it.
@roangrahm1529
@roangrahm1529 22 күн бұрын
it kinda goes both ways though anyone who says they wanted the MC to be a Japanese male (which does make sense) they are getting called racist even when the ones saying it are Japanese. The price tag alone is enough to make me say no to this game. The biggest thing is in the AC Games the MC was almost always a native of the area it was set it, Altair - Arab Ezio - Italian Connor - Native American etc etc. The Last Samurai was based in large part on Jules Benet a real person and there was some complaints about Shogun but it was "where are all the black people in Shogun" and the answer to that was that during the feudal period there were very few Black people in Japan.
@starkiller1440
@starkiller1440 23 күн бұрын
Reading the comments from the Japanese comments in the Ubisoft trailer in Japan gave me new prospective. It's mostly disappointment in how they feel the developers deliberately choose not to include them to represent their ssmurai culture.
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 23 күн бұрын
Why are people completely ignoring the 2nd protagonist who is Japanese? If it were only the male character I would be mad and understand.
@starkiller1440
@starkiller1440 23 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer They're referring to samurai. The female character is a shinobi, no complaints there because shinobi culture is represented.
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 22 күн бұрын
​@@starkiller1440 exactly
@ak-nt2tr
@ak-nt2tr 22 күн бұрын
@@starkiller1440 You are forgetting Japanese males. we wanted our representation in a Japanese AC we deserve.
@solreavir
@solreavir 22 күн бұрын
@@ak-nt2tr Don't Blame the Black guys it was the White guys that made the game not us ....But thanks for including Yasuke in Nioh as a boss Fighting the White Lead Samurai
@user-kn1hq6or2u
@user-kn1hq6or2u 23 күн бұрын
Assassin's Creed must continue to develop and test new ideas. I always follow it closely
@AncestorEmpireGaming
@AncestorEmpireGaming 25 күн бұрын
The casting of Yasuke is a red herring. The real controversy is the price bundles.
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 25 күн бұрын
I'm with you there is no way in HELL I dropping $130 for this. But no one seems to talk about that.
@netron66
@netron66 22 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer because people will pay what they like, but you cant pay to get these false narrative go away.
@AncestorEmpireGaming
@AncestorEmpireGaming 21 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer I would never drop that much on one copy of a game. I dropped that much for the AC bundle that included every Assassins Creed title from Unity to Odyssey, but that was different.
@AncestorEmpireGaming
@AncestorEmpireGaming 21 күн бұрын
@@netron66 whales will pay anything and everything in order to be relevant. If I had that much money to drop, I’d be paying off loans, mortgages, saving up in case another family member gets cancer.
@plenariondb1758
@plenariondb1758 21 күн бұрын
Aye dont forget NEO WHO HAD A WHITE SAMURAI MC
@maysen51
@maysen51 25 күн бұрын
No it’s yasuke… ya-su-ke
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 25 күн бұрын
I apologize
@DaleCoreySanford
@DaleCoreySanford 22 күн бұрын
He was never Samurai because the title was very obscure until the Momoyama-Edo period. The term was Bushi at the time of Yasuke but he was not that either. He was a sword barer which was a great honor. He was given a Fiefdom which was never done for a foreigner. He was a slave who was trained in India and fought many wars there and the Jesuits took him in and he was given to a Lord as a retainer. So no he was never a Samurai. I spent 10 years in Japan and my wife is Japanese. I studied at the Kyoto Historical institute for 5 years and will tell you no Japanese historian ever said he was "Samurai" because that would be an outright lie. Not because he was black but because they were unheard of until about 30 years after he left Japan.
@enginerunsable
@enginerunsable 21 күн бұрын
A bit passive in addressing the elephant in the room.
@revelationturtle8906
@revelationturtle8906 25 күн бұрын
You're not the only one that likes Odyssey i like it too. Yasuke is a real person, from what i heard is that he was a retainer for nobunaga. If the game is good people won't care but now a days everytime we see a 'woke' character in anything the movie, show, or game turns out to be bad or pushing an agenda so people are on high alert about woman (standard or ugly looking), POC, and LGBT. Coupled with the fact that open world games are getting to big and empty, live service games are getting ridiculous, overpricing incomplete to het more money out of people. To many red flags , but im still getting the game. And AS mirage don't worry about it, its a meh game you're not missing out.
@ak-nt2tr
@ak-nt2tr 22 күн бұрын
Yusuke is a different Japanese name. we are talking about Yasuke I assume.
@revelationturtle8906
@revelationturtle8906 21 күн бұрын
@@ak-nt2tr oops. I meant to say yasuke
@adamxero
@adamxero 23 күн бұрын
The problem is the writing is already on the wall. You say give it a chance but like how you see with Spiderman 2 you can see the direction and can already tell you weren't going to enjoy what was being produced. It's the same with this game they've already announced the characters will have LBGT elements to them and I'm assuming that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to 'The Message'. I've watched a lot of reactions to this game and I've noticed a lot of patterns really and that is there is a big group of black youtube community throwing their weight behind this game and look I get it, the idea someone who looks like you in possibly the coolest setting AC game is appealing but it's unconscious bias hell if it was a white dude I'd probably be stoked as well but I know deep down it should be a Japanese male main character who is an Assassin not a Samurai. Hell even the studio have said they were looking for 'their' samurai. Yeah I understand there is 2 main characters but we all know this element was brought in to appeal to both male and female players most male players will gravitate to the male MC not to say everyone will but the majority do. I've bought every Assassin's Creed up to now and like you one of my favourites is Odessy as well hell Valhalla for it's story direction questions I enjoyed but I think I'm going to stop here. I see where it's going and I don't like it. It's totally taking the immersion aspect out of it I play games to get away from real world politics yet this game seems like it's going to riddled with it. Anyway respect hope you enjoy the game.
@ResurgentRaven
@ResurgentRaven 17 күн бұрын
Personally, if this character is a real historical figure who was black, then I think some people are just being overtly sensitive. Of course, if this character was originally Asian and not black or even remotely dark-skinned, then I think the controversy is justified. My usual justification for the concepts of gender, race, etc will usually add up to this: If your character is a legit real-life person and you change something about them that isn't factually ascertained from text or otherwise, then you have committed a disservice to everyone by changing them. If your character is simply fictional, then you can make them however you wish.
@Evilmentor
@Evilmentor 21 күн бұрын
I have no problem with a character being black or white or Asian. It's the fact they are saying they are gay. They assume everyone is gay and people like it.
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 21 күн бұрын
WHAT ? When the hell was this announced ? I could understand adding that element during the time period of Odyssey as that was common back then but feudal Japan. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that. Thank you for the information 🙏
@siloPIRATE
@siloPIRATE 22 күн бұрын
Yasuke
@thelegionarygamer7573
@thelegionarygamer7573 21 күн бұрын
I really don't like Woke people, but honestly in the last years the Anti-Woke people have annoyed me far far worse. We all know that the real problem here isn't the culture rapresentation. That wasn't any shitstorm for the non japanese main character of shogun or the last samurai. How strange, no one claimed on their historically accuracy. I completely agree with you, i will see if the game is good and then i will give my opinion.
@Inquiring_Together
@Inquiring_Together 25 күн бұрын
🤔
@noahbuster4333
@noahbuster4333 21 күн бұрын
game set in the Holy Land, play as a Syrian man game set in Italy, play as an Italian man game set in the American Colonies, play as both a British and Native man game set in the Caribbean, play as a Welsh privateer game set in France, play as a French man game set in England, play as English twins game set in Egypt, play as an Egyptian man game set in Greece, play as a Greek man game set in Norway and Viking-invaded England, play as a Norwegian man game set in Iraq, play as an Arab man game set in Feudal Japan, play as an African man Because being Japanese did not check off enough diversity points Ubisoft decided to use Yasuke, the only black guy in Japan and is now myth status because he is the only way to insert extra diversity. This is peak cultural appropriation and a slap to Japanese history. Also that price tag is obscene.
@Jacky_boy001
@Jacky_boy001 25 күн бұрын
This is a perfect video to sum up the state of the world: Can't people just enjoy a game instead of making up imaginary problem?
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 25 күн бұрын
ALL I WANT IS TO ENJOY THE GAME.....THAT'S IT......THAT'S ALL I WANT!!!!
@Jacky_boy001
@Jacky_boy001 25 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer i know, same. I'm not even an assassins creed fan, but I still want to try the game.
@inkkid376
@inkkid376 24 күн бұрын
I agree with everything but the miles part. Most long time spidy fans want peter to retire so he csn finally be happy with mj. The whole point of Spiderman is that he's a normal guy under the mask who deals with normal things. That means moving to better things.
@tronrausch2521
@tronrausch2521 22 күн бұрын
I mean pretty much everybody wants him to be with Mary Jane again but I don't think anybody wants him to retire.
@3082lopo
@3082lopo 23 күн бұрын
Tom Cruise was not a Samurai in the movie as it was about the last Samurai that was the Japanese guy and in the end Tom Cruise played a character who documented the last samurai
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 23 күн бұрын
Yeah I know, I'm saying I've heard for other that Japanese people felt offended that Tom Cruise was wearing Samurai Armor and how ridiculous its sounds that an American is teaching Samurai how to take on modern warfare tactics. I personally LOVE the movie.
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 22 күн бұрын
No ones having an issue with Yasuke being in the game. Why cant people understand that. Its the fact he's being an main protagonist in an japanese setting game. In his historical records, he mostly spends all his time serving Oda Nobunaga aka by his "side" because for one no other Daimiyo or lord would see Yasuke the same way that Oda Nobunaga saw Yasuke. Akechi Mitsuhide for example saw Yasuke more of an animal than human and gave him back to the Jesuits and after that we dont know anything else about him. Yes we have an japanese female protagonist Naoe but she's representing the Kunochi (female ninja title) of Iga ninjas. And that her village is destroyed by Oda Nobunaga troops and Yasuke. Like ignore the controversy issue. But focus on the story on how it wont make half the sense. A good game comprises of good well written stories and gameplay. I'm also tired of this nonsense. But ubisoft and sweet baby inc is to blame for their garbage works. And low and behold We got LGBTQ characters confirmed. Optional or not I did not need to know that from ubisoft. Why are they so insistent to tell me unnecessary stuff? And about "The message" Also the last samurai Tom Cruise wasnt the last samurai, people watching that movie missed the entire point of that. Tom cruise was playing as the "Witness" never once did they call him "samurai" it was Katsumoto the character that Ken Watanabe played is the last samurai with his men. So thats not an good comparison to use. But back to the topic all of this was to hide Ubisoft's crap business prices and them going as far as saying "you dont own the game" I dont mind ac shadows, but yasuke as main protagonist is not smart, he's more of an side character like other historical characters from previous game. Leonardo DaVinci historicla character, helped Ezio. Yes it wasnt historical but it was slight changes not major changes as to say he's LGBTQ+ or he was main protagonist. We got to play through the eyes of OC and meet historical figures. Thats why the blend of historical and fiction made sense in AC 1 and AC2 for me I didnt complain about the games cuz I was "Immersed" I didnt care about politics or "The message" cuz they never pushed anything or forced anything. Yes the Pope having magically powers, but it was an romantized thing about the church or Pope possessing some power from god or something. After all the time period sits correctly that the church holds consider power they were literally the ones able to call for "Crusades" "purges" hunt "heretics" and so on. Ok back to topic sorry for this long ass essay. But im very passionate about AC games and its a disappointment to not have an japanese male protagonist. I do not care Yasuke is black, he can be in the game whatever. I didnt care that I got to play as Adewale in freedom cry or Liberation as that one girl. Adewale makes his appearance again in Rogue when you play as the assassin turned templar and you had to kill him. And Edward and Adewale in blackflag they cool asf.
@solreavir
@solreavir 22 күн бұрын
Yet NIOH
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 21 күн бұрын
@@solreavir did I care about Nioh? I'm talking about assassins creed.
@user-eg8mr1pt3z
@user-eg8mr1pt3z 21 күн бұрын
Sorry bro! I loved Assassins Creed Odysey!!
@charlesnorm4883
@charlesnorm4883 21 күн бұрын
8:05 well imagine on getting a job simply because you’re black. They employers don’t think you’re any good, you just fit the black bill and you just go along with it. That’s what that guy is saying. I don’t think you’re racist, I just think you’re bias
@jeffgray4075
@jeffgray4075 21 күн бұрын
All of this rage is disingenuous. One of the main arguments is that he is both *too* historical, and not historical enough, at once . Secondly, it is argued (mostly by non Asian Americans) that the character is offensive to Japanese people, all while preorders for the game are #1 on Amazon, in Japan. Thirdly, there are numerous examples of games using non Japanese characters as the protagonist in them, centered in feudal Japan, with virtually none of this same pushback against them. No matter if all of the arguments against having diverse playable charachtersare met (historical accuacy, continuity, appropriation...) the goal post seems ever shifting. It's dishonest, and it is ultimately just a very vocal minority of ragers, claiming to speak for the majority of those who just eant to play a good game.
@maysen51
@maysen51 25 күн бұрын
8:15 yasuke is a real historical character that existed and he is a samurai the fact the guy posted that shows his obvious ignorance whats even more stupid is when they attack the female asian calling her woke over an asian gay book she made when if u study asian culture you’ll notice there are plenty cases of homosexuality especially in the days of old between student and master.
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 25 күн бұрын
I've seen a ton of people online say he was never a samurai and that he was in Japan for only 3 years and he was a slave or weapons bearer. I had before this trailer only heard alittle about him but with this guy getting all this new attention thanks to game it makes me want to do some research and learn more about him. Who know maybe some with create a documentary about him.
@maysen51
@maysen51 25 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer that’s because of ignorance and ppl rewriting his wiki page trying to give into the fake outrage these antiwoke channels made to get views
@maysen51
@maysen51 25 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer im not fooled because i actually studied the edo period where yasuke lived in. He was a kashindan which are samurai exclusive in the sengoku period who became samurai without being married into nobility/being in a clan. Oda nobunga promoted him due to his skills as a warrior and he’s mentioned multiple times to be oda’s right hand man. Majority of evidence backs this case. i even theorized how could he not be a samurai with my knowledge but it leads into too many variables like i would have to downplay william and oda for yasuke to not be a samurai when in all attends and purposes William is also a Kashindan for yasuke to not be a samurai
@starkiller1440
@starkiller1440 23 күн бұрын
​@@maysen51Why is Yasuke not given a last name?
@maysen51
@maysen51 23 күн бұрын
@@starkiller1440 its due to him being a kashindan dispute getting the rank of samurai they aren’t given last nanes as opposed to traditional samurais. Traditional samurais are ones who obtained the rank by being married into a samurai’s family or more. To be a traditional samurai u had to get married in into a family with one, join a clan or so forth. Another thing to note kashindan cannot go further as in becoming a daimyo or shogun. During the sengoku-edo period the kashindan was used as a means of obtaining samurai without necessarily having em be able to be married into a family of nobility or other things instead only obtaining the rank tho experience in battle or other things that spiked the daimyo or shogun in question interest that promoted em to said title. To be frank kashindan are not that important dispute having the rank of samurai unlike traditional samurai. Yasuke is mostly popular due to the fact how quickly he became a kashindan and the fact he’s foreign and the first to obtain his samurai rank while william obtained traditional samurai status in his 40s around 1605 closely near the meiji restoration
@siloPIRATE
@siloPIRATE 22 күн бұрын
4:02 she’s a ninja (kunoichi). You’re not supposed to know she’s there. So job well done on Naoe’s part
@MrSophire
@MrSophire 23 күн бұрын
First I am not a AC fan, but what I am getting from the crowd that’s against this is that all the other games had the main characters from the region that the game is taking place and that the hypocrisy of a black man mowing down Japanese people, people are cheering but when a resident evil game that took place in Africa and a white character mowing down black zombies were booed. Asians and black people have been racist towards each other. If we really wanted a black protagonist why not set a game in the many hardly heard of but interesting African kingdoms.
@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667
@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 25 күн бұрын
As skeptical as I am about Assassin's Creed Shadows, even I have to agree that some of the controversy around Yasuke is a bit ridiculous. Nobody seemed to give a shit about historical accuracy before with Assassin's Creed, yet because Ubisoft is using a black man as a playable character, NOW it's a problem? And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend the company because the pricing for the game is outrageous. But Yasuke should not be one of those issues gamers have. Assassin's Creed was never too historically accurate in the first place, so it just seems off to complain about it now. Gamers today seem to forget that this is a game series based on historical fiction and science fiction. It's not real life. It's a video game. Now, does all of this mean that Assassin's Creed Shadows will be a good game? Maybe, maybe not. But Yasuke shouldn't be among the grievances people have when the game does come out.
@CheebsCheeby
@CheebsCheeby 22 күн бұрын
I'm so tired of gamer culture. Truly pathetic. Every new release brings out the negative roaches.
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 22 күн бұрын
Well the sad truth is the controversy brings attention and any kind of attention positive or negative is free promotion. Its sucks what the game culture has turned into.
@maysen51
@maysen51 25 күн бұрын
He’s not mythical he’s a real historical figure
@3TopicsReviewer
@3TopicsReviewer 25 күн бұрын
The problem is that there is very little information about him and nobody can agree one what may be true or what was made up at the time.
@maysen51
@maysen51 25 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer there isn’t little information about him. From what actual Japanese historians said he existed and was a samurai. That’s why japan has a statue of him. The little information about him is mostly due to ppl trying to hide this information by not translating actual documents on him. Wikipedia only gave confirmed information but not all of it, however that’s been removed because during this controversy they edited Yasuke information multiple times and a vast majority of youtubers try to be neutral and not give out facts like metatron. U should also note Japanese schools go into depth about yasuke due to him being a kashindan a samurai who received their rank by a daimyo instead of the traditional ways.
@maysen51
@maysen51 25 күн бұрын
@@3TopicsReviewer its a worse case when they claim william is a samurai and real when during william’s time they did not use the term samurai to describe samurai but they instantly believe it when there’s yasuke whose a kashindan which is mentioned actually unlike the samurai term in that time. To add insult to injury yasuke is in nioh and samurai warriors 5 who had nothing but Japanese developers yet none of this outrage happens oh and lets not forget yhe nioh main character is white and based off william who has the same case of yasuke having confused information and stuff contradicting his title.
@siccens6168
@siccens6168 24 күн бұрын
The problem is they go way out of their way to put a character in the game that is 99% unlikely Chinese man in Africa is a perfect example lol
@maysen51
@maysen51 24 күн бұрын
@@siccens6168 unlikely? Its not unlikely. Im sorry but what is likely about nyioh using william as a samurai young when it’s historically inaccurate when he doesn’t become a samurai until 1605 when he’s 40 years old and near his death in the next 15 years? And no this outrage is due to yasuke himself and ppl being ignorant on knowledge about him that can easily be searched up. Its fake outrage honestly to gain views
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