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My Thoughts On Atlus' Announcements (Persona 5 Tactica, Persona 3 Reload, Re:Fantazio

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BigKlingy

BigKlingy

Күн бұрын

Three games just got announced, I'm hyped for all of them, let's talk about it!
0:00 Persona 5 Tactica
4:52 Persona 3 Reload
14:49 Metaphor Re Fantazio
#persona5tactica #persona3reload #metaphorrefantazio

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@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
So on the "Game of Thrones" comment, I need to clarify. This wasn't meant to be an attack on GoT, ASOIAF or those who enjoy them. I was using it as shorthand for " "I'm sick of dark fantasy works trying to cash in on GoT made by people who completely misunderstand GoT and think it's all about medieval sex and murder." The The Boys comparison was similar. I know it's a good show (even if it's not for me, personally), what I'm concerned with is the people who take surface-level takes of them and create "edgy for the sake of it" ripoffs. Watchmen apparently suffered from this A LOT.
@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me when OSP said in that superman vid that in order to a deconstruction, you have to actually understand what your deconstructing
@Delta_dragon.
@Delta_dragon. Жыл бұрын
This clarification is nice. I was confused as to why you used The Boys as an example since from what I've heard of the show it's pretty good and goes over interesting topics.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Other comments have gone over this and I'm not the best one to explain it but from what I gather, The Boys as a COMIC was written by someone with a very clear, very vocal hatred of superheroes and the genre, and most of its "Supes" are even more blatant unflattering caricatures of comic characters he hates than in the show. (His version of Wolverine is a complete moron with hammers for hands who can only say one word, and that's maybe one of the tamer ones) He also wrote "The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe" which is... kinda exactly what it says. And strangely is an officially licensed product. To be honest though, more cynical critiques of the current political landscape are also things I'm... pretty tired of at this point. Well, just the ones that go "the current system is so broken the only way to make the world better is to tear it down with brutal violence."
@user-ln4so5fp5r
@user-ln4so5fp5r Жыл бұрын
Oh god, don't remind of GOT. I don't want to think about that show anymore.
@Delta_dragon.
@Delta_dragon. Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Well... that goes to show how little I know of the show. What I've heard was from other people and their analysis which was at least a year ago at this point. Wasn't aware of the original comic writer, and that sounds pretty yikes.
@nintenbone7934
@nintenbone7934 Жыл бұрын
On the topic of persona 3 recast it is kinda funny that Allegra Clark(Dorothea from three houses) will be voicing Mitsuru who was once voiced by Tara platt (edelgard from three houses) I find it funny because I have this weird headcanon that after the events of three houses Dorothea decides to open a opera based on the war and she plays edelgard. So this weird coincidence is kinda funny On the topic of the Mario and rabbids games the humor may be cringe but the gameplay is really good and in sparks of hope it is even better than the first game
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
That's my 3H headcanon too, but I'm sure Allegra Clark will do well as Mitsuru.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy i can't wait for the hot springs where Mitsuru goes ham. That'll really show her versitility.
@Wibiki43
@Wibiki43 Жыл бұрын
Another thing I don't see a lot of other people talking about is finally doing same day global releases. Even though, yes, I know this started with SMT 5 and Soul Hackers 2, but the fact that this cements it as the status quo from now on still makes me excited. Reminds me back when Pokemon and Fire Emblem were same day international releases. (Can you believe there was a time where even POKEMON had to wait at least six months in order to come to the west.) Now if only Falcom could join the club... (Yeah, I know it mostly has to do with popularity and the absolutely gigantic amount of text in their games, but it would still be nice to have. Maybe one day.)
@breloompauncher5593
@breloompauncher5593 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and you'd have to order from play Asia if you wanted the game early and had to bumble around not understanding the language.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Oh right, YEAH. This IS the first major global Persona release! That's going to make dodging spoilers much easier. I love that global releases are getting more common.
@Lucas17031
@Lucas17031 Жыл бұрын
The Sojiiro face when you said "let me explain!" Had me chuckling, nice. Also, not the ENTIRE cast of p3 is getting redone. Koromaru isn't changing 😛 Also, maaaaaaybe FeMC and or the Answer are gonna be DLC like that Cleanse your world DLC thingy in Tactica?
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I knew I had to include that when I heard myself say that in editing. lol Koromaru. I think he's actual dog sounds though? He definitely never sounded like a VA imitating a dog. (Zeit's Japanese voice acting in Trails from Zero is... weird)
@abeeocta2599
@abeeocta2599 Жыл бұрын
Or re release royal treatment
@Lucas17031
@Lucas17031 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I'm pretty sure it IS just dog sounds that he uses 🤔
@mechamacabre8962
@mechamacabre8962 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, P5T looks like a game made specifically for you
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Yeah I reacted that way too. People were speculating that the "T" stood for tactics and I was thinking "no way..."
@greenlink246
@greenlink246 Жыл бұрын
I really hope P3R comes out on 1/31 or 3/5 next year also Aleks going from Luke in SF6 to Minato is a really funny contrast. Now all I want is a P2 remake and DDS 1+2 collection
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I haven't been following much of SF6 but I like that it's launching with more single player than 5 did. Also Luke seems like an interesting character.
@greenlink246
@greenlink246 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Yeah I really hope that because of SF6 future fighting games see that good single player is important as well. P4A did really good with the story mode but for me personally the cutscenes to gameplay ratio leaned way too much too the cutscenes side for a fighting game. In something slower paced like a RPG having 10-30 minute cutscenes isn't as much of a pace breaker I find.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
@@greenlink246 The P4 Arena story modes are really just Visual Novels with occasional really easy fights. They're very clearly aimed at JRPG fans who don't like fighting games, while fighting game fans have Score Attack.
@greenlink246
@greenlink246 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I never enjoy playing visual novels unless it's a death game type of thing like Danganronpa or Process of Elimination so that's probably why it bothered me.
@crusiver8453
@crusiver8453 Жыл бұрын
I saw an idea that Re Fantazio is the Prequel to the Persona franchise. The story involves becoming king and reaching paradise which is our world. The characters have pseudo personas and alot of the characters share similarities with Persona characters. The mc for example looking very similar to a medieval heterochromia Makoto Yuki. So what if they do indeed merge our world with theirs & these "archetypes" expand and become personas.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I was actually wondering that too!
@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 Жыл бұрын
…There is a weird overlap with the the party members in that game-and the persona protagonist. You’ve got a theif that corresponds to Joker, a red haired Lance user, and the other two look extremely similar to Yu and Minato/Makoto
@Sean_Bird
@Sean_Bird Жыл бұрын
0:25 Lol. 1:16 The Phantom Thieves are trying to be the Whitewings, it seems. 4:10 Interesting point. I can't say I know why, but maybe it's a "different strokes" situation? Though considering your point about Marie showing up in spin-offs released after Golden, it might just be people expect them to show up considering how she was handled. This also reminds me of how FE Warriors' had some stigma of how it handled it's cast. Speaking of, though, I think I actually had some similar reservations over Three Hopes when it was revealed because I didn't know if Leonie, my favorite character from Three Houses, would be in the game or not, considering how FE Warriors 1's cast was handled. Would I have bought Three Hopes if she wasn't in the game at all, or was stuck as DLC? I don't know, honestly, since I hadn't played a Warriors game before, which may be similar to how some may feel over Akechi and Yoshizawa's current exclusion from Tactica, especially since the game is also in a different genre then the original Persona 5 (Royal). I thought that might be something that could be relevant to bring up. The VA for SF6's Luke being the new voice for the protagonist has already spawned some great memes. 9:36 I never had a problem with ORAS, even though it lacked the Frontier. It was good overall. I'm surprised you didn't talk more about the lack of the female protagonist seemingly being absent in the P3 Remake. That's the main thing I think I've seen people upset over. 17:47 Hulkenburg: The City of SMASH! Re:Fantazio having a battle system that combines elements from mainline SMT and Persona seems interesting, though it does make it seem like Atlus is putting a lot of eggs in the Persona basket, which makes sense, it's just noticeable.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
1:16 Maybe this Triangle Attack will actually be useful! 4:10 I'll admit I didn't buy the first Warriors because of the roster... but that was the ENTIRE ROSTER I didn't like, not just one or two characters being excluded. I guess it's just that I never played Portable, my only FeMC experience has been in Q2 and... she's a great character there, but I don't see her as an essential part of P3.
@tallflipkick
@tallflipkick Жыл бұрын
I would say The Boys comparison works if you used something from the comics rather than the show. As the show isn't, "You should feel bad about liking superhero stuff" it's more of a commentary on just how would it be having a superhero based society. Because there are heroes that redeem themselves that seemed bad before. Actually, good heroes who want to help the world. And it's showing how humans aren't so weak as well since in the show, the main characters aren't super-powered (except one but her story is that she doesn't need to be a serial killer despite the powers she has) The comics are very anti-superhero as the creator of the comics has stated how he hates superheros. He gets to give his MCs these big black trenchcoats and kill superheros while having the powers of a hero. And having other disgusting stuff in it like making the stand in for Professor X a... kid toucher. And other stuff. While the show just criticizes modern day stuff and how corrupt businesses get.
@hydropizza
@hydropizza Жыл бұрын
Compare that to Invincible, both the comic and show. It was written by someone who loves superheroes, and while it's much darker and more brutal than most D.C or Marvel comics, it never descends into just pointless edge. Even the obvious "Superman but evil" idea is made into "What if Superman had General Zod as a dad, but was still Superman?"
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's interesting seeing a few people saying The Boys show is better than the comic. From what I've read about the comic's writer I... don't really want to read their stuff, it just seems like torture porn on things he hates. Though at the very least, it seems like in the comic, the protag becomes the Big Bad at the end (with it being pointed out that he's no better than a supervillain), which is an okay idea at least. (Wonder if the show will do that)
@tallflipkick
@tallflipkick Жыл бұрын
@BigKlingy Well, so far. The main character, while being pretty bad, is more morally gray. Like he does fucked up things to get the result he wants. And even says fucked up things to sometimes push people away from him. But he sort of still means well. Hopefully, he doesn't end up like his comic counterpart. Because the thing is with his comic counterpart. He only sees himself as the villain because all of a sudden he's likes. "I wanna kill every supe. Whether they be children, women, or disabled people. I want them dead. Which means even his friends since they have super powers. In which, yeah, he kills the group we've been following. And the other MC, Hughie, kills him. Only after Butcher (the MC) lies and says that he killed his parents. As Butcher wanted Hughie to stop him. The show doesn't seem to be following the comics story in any way
@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 Жыл бұрын
man that version of Superman is underrated tbh. I like how complex he is.
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Garth Ennis is a writer that needs to be put on a leash of an editor *hard.* Otherwise he does a bumch of awful ideas for shock value or because he hates stuff. But when properly kept in check he's made great stuff. Particularly I love some of his work on John Constantine.
@Delta_dragon.
@Delta_dragon. Жыл бұрын
7:58 The only character from that list that I recognize from Engage is Zeno Robinson, but I've seen him in a lot of places like Street Fighter 6 and MHA. Also, I've seen a lot of the voice actors before from other games like Dawn Bennett (Monster Hunter Rise, Trails of Cold Steel 4, FE 3Hopes), Alejandro Saab (FE3H), Suzie Yeung (Trails into Reverie), Aleks Le (Monster Hunter Rise), and Heather Gonzales (Monster Hunter Rise, Trails of Cold Steel 4/Reverie, FEH). But also, Allegra Clark as Mitsuru is honestly a perfect replacement IMO.
@breloompauncher5593
@breloompauncher5593 Жыл бұрын
If you want a recent showing of Saab, Yeung, and Gonzales go play Octopath Traveler 2. It's a really good game and Xanthe Huynh even voices one of the main characters too.
@galladeforce
@galladeforce Жыл бұрын
Well apart from Zeno Robinson s Fogado none of them are in Engage itself, while a lot of them have Fire Emblem roles, the Protagonist is also Jorge, Junpei alongside Fogado is Ross and Zihark, Yukari’s has replaced Amanda C Miller as Elincia and Cherche, Akihiko is Yuri, Mitsuru is Dorothea, Ethlin and Karla, Fuuka is Juno (Funnily enough) and Aigis is Female Shez and Ullir. Hence while their newer voice actors in ge real as said in the video, hence very few of them are specifically Engage related, with every one else being limited to Three Houses/Three Hopes and Heroes in regards to roles
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
With how good he is as Fogado, I'm very excited for Zeno Robinson as Junpei.
@thefinalskarm1754
@thefinalskarm1754 Жыл бұрын
as for other fes content, we've seen bow locked yukari (possibly meaning sword locked protag), weapon fusion shop, heard about aigis link, pretty much all confirmed liz hangouts. Monad and superboss/telos are NOT hard confirmed currently. I understand why there was a recast and am in agreement over a full recast over time, though it is ultimately an each their own on this front I feel, I am extremely curious regarding Liz though.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's pretty likely everything except The Answer will be in this. I guess it was just bad wording or a mistranslation from the first interview.
@adamshadow9881
@adamshadow9881 Жыл бұрын
I really only have thoughts on P3Re & Metaphor. I find a bit funny that the WHOLE cast for P3 is changed. Because me and my friend agreed that, as cool as he, we can do without Yuri Lowenthal as the Protag. Well, we got what we wanted with a monkey's paw wish. LOL. Plus, I do agree that, it's pretty noticeable that half of the original cast felt like lines were kinda phoned in. As someone who's been wanting to play P3 through the best way, this might be it. And hopefully that a lot of things that felt crushing to new players are either changed or just gone. For Metaphor. Seeing and hearing that it's a 3 way mix of Persona, SMT, and Fantasy/Medival elements, that's pretty cool. I've also been thinking of starting some SMT games. So that might give me a better understanding of how combat might work in Metaphor. Ultimately, I'll wait a bit to see what most people think about it (Mostly from Atlus & Persona KZfaqrs.) Before I buy it. But damn, Atlus is gonna be killing it in 2024.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
The protag has so few full lines anyway that I barely register that he's Yuri Lowenthal. Unlike Yosuke. The new VA seems pretty cool. Metaphor might actually be a good way to get Persona fans into mainline SMT, actually. I used to suggest Digital Devil Saga for that.
@VCvideo100
@VCvideo100 Жыл бұрын
For P5T: Will have to check once given the chance. do gotta love it when people jump the gun about certain characters not being in(who's to say both don't want anything to do with the metaverse anymore but who can say) for P3R: sad you don't get the OG voice cast even give them a chance to do a better performance if they can but eh(hope at least one of them don't pull the same stunt the OG VA of Bayonetta did) I defiantly agree that we should get a platonic route and maybe keep the jealousy Mechanic as well as play a bigger role in the FTEs. Re:Fantazio: from what I'm seeing its gonna be a must grab for me.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Admittedly it's weird they're not getting the Marie and Theodore treatment. Both debuted in re-releases but were canon in all later spinoffs. But it's not a deal breaker for me.
@leilahbrenda
@leilahbrenda Жыл бұрын
P3 is my favorite game, and it was the first videogame I've ever played, so it holds a special meaning to me. Knowing about the Remake makes me excited, but I agree with some of your points. About the new VAs... I have a good feeling that we'll get a pretty good job, the biggest problem will be adapting to the new voices (and I guess we might get a JP voice option, just in case??). Your take on Yukari's voice is the same as I have for Edelgard lol I love Tara Platt, but her Edel voice is too harsh. And about FEMC/Answer... I love Kotone's route of the game because of the SLs, so in the beginning I was disappointed that we wouldn't have them with Minato (Kenji's SL screenshot sealing the deal), but with the recent news that the male party members will get extra content, it makes me happy. I just want to feel like Minato has a strong bond with them, you know? Doesn't matter if it's through SLs or whatever. I do feel like they should add Ryoji's SL, with all the meaningful scenes in the P3 movies and all. (Idk if Rio and Saori will appear, which is sad, bc Saori is one of my absolute favorites... also, Theo??). But in any case, I am really happy and excited, P3 getting a modern version is a dream come true.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I've got a different take on Edelgard: I kinda dislike Tara Platt's take, but only because it's literally identical to her Mitsuru and Miriel voices, basically every Tara Platt role that's not Elizabeth. (Why don't voice directors let her use her range more??) I would've preferred if Christina Vee from the first trailer had stayed on, only because Edelgard would've been playing against type for her and I'd like to hear how she'd handle it. I've always felt that the guys got enough development in the main story (one thing I love about P3: the lack of party social links meant the party could develop in the main story, it's a similar problem to Fire Emblem's supports holding back people from developing in the main story), but it's nice to see them get more content.
@Falmosta
@Falmosta Жыл бұрын
It's possible that they may actually add other links to the party members that didn't have them. Though that will make the calendar very crowded. I do wonder if the sick mechanic is going to still exist. And it would be interesting to see if they added technical damage to this game as I feel Like it might actually fit Since this game used to be very Is status effect heavy.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
There's a lot I wonder about. We'll see what ends up revealed.
@carolbrokethewallagain
@carolbrokethewallagain Жыл бұрын
Oh, this came pretty quick. Always love these Thoughts On videos. As for my thoughts, I’ll just go through them in order. P5T is something I have no strong feelings for. I don’t think it’s bad at all, but it didn’t grab me. I think that’s something that can change depending on how the gameplay and story turn out, but for now I’m not really interested. My friend is and she’s been really happy for it as a P5 fan who loves the art style, so at least there’s some positive attributions for me. In terms of P3, I’ll split this up between more general and specifically va-related stuff. Honestly, I agree 100% with being happy for a version of P3 that’s an easier recommendation. It really is unforgiving in a lot of ways besides the gameplay being among the most difficult in Persona(I’m talking stats and enemy strategies, not even the party members being only direct able and not directly controllable). P3 deserves to be much more accessible, so a version that brings it in-line with modern Persona just rocks. I was more disappointed by it not being the definitive FES+Portable version, but I’ve mellowed out on that. The only issue I have is that I’m not sold on the graphic effects and some of the new UI, but I’ll see how that goes in time. As for the new vas, the most interesting thing to me is how emblematic it is of a shift in vas in the industry since P3’s original release. When you look at the old cast, a ton of them like Liam O’Brian, Tara Platt, Michelle Ruff, and Yuri Lowenthal were in EVERYWHERE between the mid 2000s to the early 2010s. Seriously, every English dub had one of these guys or Matthew Mercer. But naturally, new talent’s been flooding in and a number of them are in the new cast. Some of them like Dawn Bennette(who I will always know as Lilac from Freedom Planet first) has been in a lot of games and anime dubs. Others have just gotten their starts but are looking like potential powerhouses. Idk, this whole thing is sort of a microcosm of that shift and I find it pretty interesting. I have no worries about quality of performances with these guys given their resumes also, so for as sad as it is to see the old cast go, I full welcome the new guys. Re:Fantazio came at the perfect time. Xenoblade 3 sent me on a massive kick with mega esoteric and physically impossible but extremely unique concepts, like Flame Clokcs that store actual life force that you cut open to free people. It’s been extremely influential in that way to tge newest thing I’ve started working on that’s kind of these unique concepts in overdrive. But enter Re:Fantazio that is all of that everywhere. I was sold immediately. Everything looks so damn cool. I mean the aesthetic and graphics too, but the concepts like Equipping monsters as classes, the links you form looking like the come from important people so the MC is like a diplomat, the world being some parallel one that might exist somewhere alongside ours, even the orange eyes for the powers as a visual. Funnily enough, gameplay and story weren’t what jumped out to me, but those seem great too. This game came out of nowhere for me and I’m living for it. So overall? Atlus gets much more than a passing grade. Damn good stuff.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I see where you're coming from on Re:Fantazio. The art style feels like nothing else while still being very "Atlus", and the gameplay looks really promising so far. And yeah, re the P3 cast, we've entered a new era of voice actors now. It's sad, but dub casts tend to "rotate out" like this. First we lost Troy Baker to AAA games, and now the P3 cast.
@carolbrokethewallagain
@carolbrokethewallagain Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I’m young enough to where this is really the first rotation I’ve experienced in that industry. It’s definitely something I saw coming, especially with that gang of vas getting older, but it’s really something to watch the vas that were ubiquitously in everything being gradually switched out for a new crop of guys who will also be in a ton of things(and I mean that positively. They deserve it). At least some of them are still doing stuff, like Matthew Mercer.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
This is really the first big rotation I've witnessed too, since I pretty much started getting into JRPGs around the time Troy Baker, Yuri Lowenthal, Laura Bailey and their group was big.
@gamerzorro3508
@gamerzorro3508 Жыл бұрын
A bit late, but these games have got me excited, all of them look really cool and have stuff that is up my alley, but man do I hate the fact I bought P3P when a better version is coming out in a years time from that versions release date. I know people aren’t a fan of P5T’s art style but I really think it pops and helps it stand out in my mind, specially now it viewable in HD. Also very fitting the main areas seem to be based on different rebellions throughout history, that really fits with P5. P3RE looks drop dead gorgeous with the only thing I can critique being the shop menu’s colors, I’m pretty sure previous versions had those colors be blue so why is it P5 colors? Also I was initially surprised by the complete voice cast change but knowing who the actors are, I’m completely on board, they are going to do amazing I can just tell. And I can believe no one saw Fantazio’s return coming, I think it took a lot of people off guard in a good way, the game looks awesome (outside of some noticeable frame rate drops but they still have a year to fix that up) and it’s a damn good Idea combining the press turn system with more Persona like mechanics, really liking the character designs as well, they stick out and despite clearly being the same artist as P3, P4 & P5 the characters don’t look like they came from the same series, at least to me.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
At least you'll have access to the FeMC if she's not in the remake. I think P5T looks pretty nice. It's a step above the Q artstyle. Agree on how P3Re looks.
@SomeAsian
@SomeAsian Жыл бұрын
I REALLY wish they at least let the party members be an OPTION for S-Links in Reload (I'll forgive lack of FeMC because among other things, you have to remember they'd have to remake parts of INABA for her), but hearing Zeno Robinson as Junpei and Allegra Clark as Mitsuru will be a treat. ...also, if the Answer is DLC PLEASE rewrite it, Atlus. It's not fun with Yukari being left doing all the homework setting up SEES Civil War.
@connorharnage6697
@connorharnage6697 Жыл бұрын
I'm more concerned with the gameplay if they do DLC. As for male party social links, I doubt it but I think the new side stories they're adding will help fill that void. The Male Party social links would be entirely different if it was with Makoto tho which would be interesting
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I honestly think The Answer is fine. It plays into my thing about P3 being not afraid to have flawed characters, while P4 and 5's unconditionally love the MC.
@SomeAsian
@SomeAsian Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy That's something I loved about P3 in general, it wasn't afraid to have the party dislike each other, including the protag. The Answer I turned around on in a lot of aspects (particularly Yukari, I think she's the BEST part of it now), but I still think they could've set up the civil war better (I might be remembering wrong, but it felt like Yukari did 90% of the work building up the Civil War compared to the others)
@manat31790
@manat31790 Жыл бұрын
The "female" scenario in P3P wasn't just a reskin. It was big enough to be an entire game. Therefore I don't expect it to be in the same package as something as big and detailed as Persona 5. It'd be good if we get the female version as a separate game, similar to how the Devil Children series released the Black Book/Red Book and Dark/Light as the ambitious takes on Pokemon versions. Otherwise, I'm content with playing a remake of Persona 3 FES.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's too much content, unless they used the same Social Links for both and turned her into a reskin, but that would still get people mad because you'd lose Portable's unique content.
@skyboy7244
@skyboy7244 Жыл бұрын
Re Fantazio looks really stunning, really looking forward to it. Also thoughts on the new persona 3 cast: Never heard Justine Lee or Justice Slocum in anything before, so I can’t really comment on them I mostly know Suzie Yeung as Eula (genshin), yuffie (ff7) and Vladilena (86). Vladilena is actually kinda like a navigator (she commands troops from a remote location) so that’ll be interesting to hear Allegra Clark: perfect casting, like between her characters AI: somnium files and Genshin, shes PERFECT for Mitsuru Alejandro Saab: this makes this 3rd character with electric powers that he voices, that’s a funny trend Dawn M Bennet: i mean she voices Mariabell in trials and I LOVE her in that, but also Aigis is very different from that, she’s kinda the emotional core of persona 3 so there’s a lotta pressure on her Zeno Robbenson: the character he plays in re:zero can definitely be described as having “bro vibes” so I’m sure he’ll do great as Junpei. Also he voices hawks in MHA (his voice sounds so attractive in that show) and him and Junpei do have similar elements in there backstory’s Heather Gonzalez, never heard her as a teen girl character before, it’ll be interesting to see what direction she take it in, maybe similar so how she does Elincia in fe? Aleks Le: he’s very much known as a kida “meme lord” and playing more out there characters, like Luke (SF6) and Zenitsu (demon slayer) so it’ll be interesting to see him in a more “sullen” role, so considering how much I’ve enjoyed him in everything else he’s in I have no doubt he’ll do great. Maybe he’ll sound like a less angry version Thorfinn, (the character he plays in the Netflix dub of Vinland Saga).
@arthurgamonal2mb358
@arthurgamonal2mb358 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you in P5T, im also looking forward to it In the matter of P3RE i also hold the same opinion has you, one interesting thing to note is that in JP the VA cast will remain the same For Re:Fantasy i would advice you to look at the earlier promotion material since its pretty cool, one image says the following: "This not Persona,This is not Megami Tensei,This is the beginning of a new story" which is pretty funny given the recent trailer and that also the red-head female elf knight which appears often, she also appeared in Etrian Odyssey Nexus as a DLC portrait.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I kinda suspected the JP cast is the same. Japanese voice actors seem to carry roles a lot longer, but I've noticed that, sadly for a JRPG fan like me, American VAs tend to consider JRPG/anime dubs to be "boot camp" roles they eventually "grow out of" and move to western-based "AAA games". First it was Troy Baker, then Travis Willingham and Laura Bailey, now even Liam O'Brien doesn't seem to be doing Japanese stuff anymore.
@andremelo1670
@andremelo1670 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigKlingythat's interesting, here in Brazil we don't have a big differentiation between dubbing western and Eastern productions Like for example Starlight's voice actor, Maíra Paris also dubs Yor from Spy×Family, or Tomoyo Daidouji's and Dawn's voice actor, Fernanda Bullara, also being Sunset Shimer's and working in evangelium, Naruto and One Piece, voice and the voice of Apple Jack and Wendy (Gravity Falls) also working in one of the many dubs of evangelium.
@andremelo1670
@andremelo1670 Жыл бұрын
Note that the reason that I didn't use games as example is that, the only games I know are dubbed in Brazilian Portuguese are Overwatch, LoL, the Knack series and the Rachet and Klang series. Since in general not that many games are even given Portuguese subtitles (only some Ubsoft and Konami titles, and more recently, Dragon Age Inquisition, Fallout 4 and Final Fantasy XV and XIV). In fact, some games are straight up not lauched in Brazil, like Deltarune being a Steam exclusive and the PS4 themes for persona being region locked. Wich is ironic, since some anime and Kdramas get realized in Brazil, but not in English.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's interesting looking at other language dubs. And also cool seeing the kinds of things dub actors for western shows get up to. Recently I found out a lot of MLP English VAs did voice-over for a choreographed dance stage play.
@andremelo1670
@andremelo1670 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy another Brazilian dub fun fact is that Shining Armor, Flam (from MLP), Goku and SpongeBob all share the same voice actor (Wendel Bezerra) from their debuts to today and one a little sad is that the voice actor eggman had from the first Sonic Cartoon to Sonic Boom (Isaac Bardavid, peace upon his soul) also dubbed Tiger from Winnie the Poh and Wolverine until his tragic death in 2022
@fesyuki-kun2332
@fesyuki-kun2332 Жыл бұрын
11:48 literally that's I wanted from reload the answer & femc are important and all but for a development cycle started from 2019 so putting everything from the get go (especially with femc) is brutally hard & expensive FINALLY I can tell any Joe shmoe to play goty without pirating it & learning to use an emulator 14:54 YES I JUST CHOKED WHEN I SAW IT I just didn't even imagine that atlus would released it that's insane & I am very hyped
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
11:48 And again, using a guide. You kinda HAD to use one for P3 to reasonable max a lot of SLs, and I don't think that's good modern design.
@xenoinazuma7631
@xenoinazuma7631 Жыл бұрын
I’m slightly worried for Tactica’s DLC being honest. Though if it ends up being good and well priced then it should be fine. I do hope it isn’t just Crow, Violet but also Sophie and Wolf. Otherwise I’m excited for Tactica I just hope they don’t spill too much info on the story Persona 3 Reload. My only problems with it. Is that I feel Persona 2 needs a remake more. Persona 1 too. The other is no FES content. It was major story stuff from The Answer that’s my big thing. Even just cutscenes. I just hope it isn’t sold for over price DLC cause while I love the Erebus fight it isn’t worth that much. But one thing I do hope, I hundred percent agree with you. Allow for platonic routes, or maybe scrap the jealousy mechanic. Still punish people dating multiple people but if we HAVE to date everyone. Remove that Jealousy mechanic. I’m fine with reversing social links and breaking them but god damn. That and how slow combat can feel since you can’t control your party members are always my major grips with 3 others are smaller things that I can overlook but damn. 3 is rough to recommend and kind of hard to go back to fresh for 100% Social Link and Compendium without guides. Now it makes me wonder if they did a Persona 2 remake would they add social links? Would they combine both games like Advance Wars Re-Boot Camp? I just want to see Philemon and Nyarlethotep again. Even as optional Super bosses I would be fine with. On Re:Fantazio. I’m meh. I’m not hyped about it. I hope it does well but hey if people like it that’s great.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I might not even get the DLC, depending. I never got SMT5's DLC.
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 Жыл бұрын
0:02- More accurately two things; Leaked a lot of things and probably annihilated the poor intern who accidentally leaked such things. Xp 0:35- And good for them doing so. They needed better one than what they actually made. lmao [And before anyone retorts this, only being a bit harsher on the low off chance a certain Space Carrot finds this video and I can find another way to jokingly spite him by poking at his overly big obsession of TMS.] 0:36- And "Not a good crossover" is one hell of an understatement, but enough of that; Back to the new stuff! 3:23- Either way, if she tries to pull something funny, the PTs already know how to handle a traitor. 4:10- Agreed. Would it be nice if they were in it? Yes, but it's not a death blow. 4:16- *Sees the remark to the bottom left* Oh boy, the things that I could use that as a springboard to go off on a dozen or so rants about people not giving games chances over very stupid and superficial reasons as well as plenty of other things... But I'll show restraint today and more so focus on the latter half of that remark. I can get and understand why people are upset over this; They just want to see more of their favorite characters that don't get to show up as much. That is an understandable want. However, you shouldn't damn or deny something just because they aren't in it, even if it would be better if they did. While I am very much of the mindset where that highly values gameplay and story being equals to making a great game, I will say that I am often irked by those who'll disregard potential gameplay because of superficial story reasons like this. 5:17- On the note of this image, RIP the IGN intern/whoever that apparently leaked some footage just before Atlus gave the okay after the other major leak. A bad week for the "interns" it seems. lol 8:00- That's good to hear about some newcomers getting some bigger roles. Been always looking forward to some more newcomers getting more spotlight. After some utterly great performances in the Live A Live Remake with some new/relatively unknown people, I've had a feeling we're on the cusp on major wave of great new VAs getting some bigger roles and I hope the P3 Remake helps to brings in that wave. 9:48- Still iffy only because of that frikin sign that "teases" it. At the very least with hindsight, I'll say ORAS was at least serviceable and enjoyable remakes even if they didn't hit their heights; Still better than whatever the f^^^ happened with BD/SP. On that note, since you're a lot more familiar with P3 and Atlus in general, do you think that the P3 Remake will at least be an ORAS situation (not quite definitive, but still holds up on its own merits)? That was my biggest concern of the P3 Remake not hitting at least that level of quality and rather hear a more cool headed opinion on it from someone like you Klingy. 12:16- I've heard the horror stories about fact. Know too well how a single mistake ruined a 100% run and how P4 and P5 took A LOT more care and attention to actually make this possible. 13:08- Yeah, I REALLY hope they give platonic choices for them. Kind of sad how this is one of the biggest wants, but I REALLY don't want to be a cheating SOB or get possessed by the evil spirit of Gary Stu. 14:27- RATED M FOR MARA! ... Sorry, contractually obligated to do that whenever he shows up. 14:42- Yeah, let's not let them get any ideas about doing that... 15:40- Huh, interesting. Kind of knew about this game, but wasn't really paying attention to it before. Might need to start keeping tabs if it turns out to be something special to take note of. 17:30- Yep, going to start keeping tabs on this now. 18:46- Oh boy, do I have words for those that really think such things, but again, showing restraint. 20:12- Hopefully the story will be fine and not be a major interest killer for this game. A bit worried if there are SMT-like alignments given what you said and how there's a mysterious blond hair person asking this to you in an Atlus game. As for how I felt for the announcements, admittedly I've been on the sideline (or more accurately, watching the sidelines from afar as the actual sidelines reel in the chaos going on), so I haven't formed quite a strong enough opinion to be either hyped or dubious over these announcements. I do have some more interest in Metaphor after hearing and learning about it here. I'll be waiting for more official details from P5T and P3 Reloaded before I'll decide my thoughts on them and if I'll get them. Honestly, haven't really been caring for as many announcements given this year I've either already have most of the major things that I was waiting for in 2023 (barring Advance Wars that I'll get later) or waiting for anything else (besides Pikmin 4 that I'll get after Day 1 once I can splurge more; Same for Blasphemous 2.) to come out or be announced in the latter half of this year as things I want are either hypotheticals (be it games I want or games that are out but lack a Switch Port) or 2024 releases. Also after I'm done with the current "Clogging up my backlog to hell and back trifecta" (Octopath 2, Cassette Beasts, and Tactics Ogre Reborn), I think I'm going to make 2023 a a game clearing year for me and go back and beat some games that have been waiting for a LONG while for me to finish up, so I've really haven't been caring as much for game announcements. Part of that might change if we get something like a Nintendo Direct in July or something (highly doubt we'll get one this month), I think that's my main game plan for games. That all said, still has been quite interesting and insightful to hear from you on these Atlus Announcements. In other news, quite a bit, but I'll save that for the next part of the AW2 LP as I'm a bit busy tonight and this comment already took a lot longer to write than I expected.
@BerserkerRohan
@BerserkerRohan Жыл бұрын
I will admit that I am bit curious about TMS as well since my good friend Gallade has played it and he seemed to really enjoy it so maybe something to think about down the line. That they do. I feel the same way since they are really good characters but not seeing them isn't a deal breaker. Again, I wouldn't say that I am that overly attached to a character that I would immediately boycott the game before seeing what the gameplay is truly like. It also reminded me of the FF7 remake also using a decent amount of fresh faces too for the voice acting and I am excited to see how this cast will tackle P3's amazing cast. I probably preferred playing ORAS over X and Y during the Gen 6 era since it was filled with a good amount of content and it was fun to play too. From what I can tell, I think I can see the P3 remake being like ORAS too especially if we get a lot of quality of life in regards to the remake. I could see why things were more difficult when I played P3P on the channel so I made sure to save very often and looked closely at that guide. It was something I really wanted too, when I discussed the P3 remake in my video especially since P5 handled the platonic routes and even better than P4 did. It was quite the experience to fuse Mara on the channel for the first time in that P3P playthrough I mentioned. Metaphor does look pretty interesting to me as well since it seems like a huge mashup of what Atlus is good at. The only thing is that it seems to be made exclusively for next gen consoles and I don't own one yet (unless it gets a Switch port) so it will probably be something I wait on. I do find P3 Reloaded pretty intriguing when thinking about it more and this is coming from someone who really liked the FEMC and her route. Mainly because it will probably be the best way to experience the male route which I haven't played yet if we do end up getting some nice quality of life changes. It's early 2024 release works since I could get it for my birthday because of that. As for other future plans, one game I want to get in the future is Trails from Zero since I am pretty hyped about Trails and seeing the Crossbell arc will be useful if I decide to tackle Cold Steel 3 and 4. My brother might end up getting Pikmin 4 since he seems excited about it. I did get some birthday money and I am thinking of using it with the summer sale so we will see what I decide to get. Of course, a direct can throw a curveball later in the year but we shall see. I will be looking forward to hearing about your progress since things have been going quite well for you already. As for us, my brother took on Hyrule Castle which went pretty well and is now tackling another important main story objective. As for me, I am still going strong with Gold Comet as I beat Kanbei's second mission which I cut close with the time limit but I still got a perfect S rank. As for Cold Steel 2, I finally conquered it by taking on the true final boss and it proved a pretty emotional ending for both me and the party members since I felt very proud that I conquered an arc to this massive story. I definitely want to make a my thoughts on video about Cold Steel 2 but one thing I can say now is that I can definitely recommend both Cold Steel 1 and 2 since both are really well made JRPGs that are very easy to pick up and play too. My next chapter with Trails will of course be Trails from Zero and I will be looking forward to that down the line. With Cold Steel 2 done, it was back to Import Tuner Challenge and refamiliarizing myself with driving the A70 Supra. So to recap, I beat the three strongest rivals on the C1 which caused the Shinkanjo to open up with new teams and three bosses to overcome as well as the leader of those three bosses too. What I was able to do was conquer all of the teams in the night on the Shinkanjo which caused the first boss to appear: Silent Cassiopeia who drives a Nissan 350Z and he wasn't too bad to beat. I also cleared out all but one Wanderer in the night as well and they weren't too bad either, both to spawn and beat. It was now time for midnight and I managed to clear out two of the four teams and get a 27 win streak before the game refused to spawn the last members of the last two teams which meant ending the night early but that was ok. Another thing I am also looking forward to is thinking about what car I am going to buy to replace the A70 Supra since it creeping up on 621 miles which we need for a future Wanderer so then I am free to make use of a more powerful car. From what I heard, the R34 GTR and A80 Supra are considered the best cars so I might choose between one of those two.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
9:48 "Not quite definitive, but still holds up on its own merits" is probably how I'm hoping it'll turn out. But right now I'm actually thinking it looks really good.
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy That's a bit reassuring. Like I said, not as familiar as P3 as others are, so it's harder to gauge for me how good of a remake it'll be. If you think that it's looking really good so far, I'll take your word for it Klingy.
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 Жыл бұрын
@@BerserkerRohan From what I played before stopping, the game was alright, though I do think depending on your tastes it'll greatly vary on how much milage you'll get out of it (though regardless of said tastes, most enjoy the combat). Like if it was several core PTs who were MIA I'd understand the complaints more, but just for the more auxiliary members, I can't really see it being a deal breaker. It's always great to hear new/unknown talents and hope the ones for P3 Reloaded will do well. Yeah, ORAS was where Gen 6 was at its best given how lacking X/Y was, so it does do well not only as a remake but as a stand alone as well. That seems like what some like Klingy are hoping it'll be and hopefully it turn out as such. Oh yeah, you probably had a lot to juggle with that LP when it came to constantly looking things up as you played to make sure you were perfectly on track. You truly got the RATED M FOR MARA Experience™ during your LP. lol Oh shoot, didn't even think of that; Been so used to the consoles I've had for the last six or so years and didn't even think about some of these games ending up on newer hardware instead. I'll certainly have to be mindful of that when we get more info on them. That would be a nice way to experience the Male MC route with getting a nicely updated and QoL filled version of the game, especially if they make it so you aren't glued to a guide for most of it. Hoping you'll have fun with those others Trails games. I'm shamed to admit it, but I still haven't played Zero yet despite it sitting on my night stand for months now (certainly the game at the moment who has the biggest "Deserves Freedom from Backlog Hell" excuse out of the rest of the games that I'll need to play), so I'll need to get to that eventually. Also hoping the same fun experience for your brother when he gets Pikmin 4. Also seems like our years game-wise looks pretty in stone unless something major pops up. I'll be sure to fill in for you all of the details come next video. Great work on his end and hopefully that objective will go well for him. Well done in AW2 and how much you got through it so far. Nice work with getting that S-Rank when the time was getting quite dicey as well. And amazing work on your end finishing up CS2. Sounded like one hell of an experience it put you through, but nice to see that you had a great time through it all. Though I already had some distant plans to try CS1 and 2 at some point, I'll certainly be keeping your high remarks in mind for when I get them. Have fun whenever you play your next Trails game as well. Also nice to hear how well you're getting back into the swing of things with Import Tuner Challenge as well. Quite impressive with that massive win streak as well, though a bit annoying the game denied making it even longer by not having those other racers pop up. None the less, well done. Also needing to bench a car so it has the exact amount of miles needed to make a Wanderer appear; Why am I not surprised by such a specific Wanderer spawning condition? Xp But at the very least, like you said it gives you quite the excuse to upgrade to a nicer car and it seems like you're already eyeing up two nice options. Hope you'll get a good deal regardless of which one you pick and hope the game continues to go well.
@BerserkerRohan
@BerserkerRohan Жыл бұрын
@@jaredfayette2567 The combat does seem fun at the very least. Those people must be too attached to those two. I hope they do well as well. ORAS was definitely a good time when I played it with my brother. I do faith that the P3 remake will turn out like that. That was the case although the last bit of the game did give me a good amount of free time to play with which was nice. I did need to level up that Mara too for his skill card and he also had a weapon fusion. I heard it was being developed for next gen hardware so I assume it might be exclusive to those kind of like how Need for Speed Unbound is now currently. Having more freedom to go of script would be pretty cool in the remake although I do like sticking to the guide as much as possible. I did take me a while to play Cold Steel 2 myself since I got it for Christmas but then Engage came out and I wanted to play it a lot so it had to wait a while. I was like one turn from failing on multiple turns but I pulled through. I wasn't expecting to like Cold Steel as much as I did too which was a plus. The wanderer needed at least 621 miles so I don't need to reach that specific amount. It is also much better than TXR Zero in that regard with some wanderers needing at least 1860 miles.
@thomashoward5450
@thomashoward5450 Жыл бұрын
One thing to correct here, chief. The interview was mistranslated. The devs said that content from FES and Portable WILL be included in Reload, but not the FeMC and The Answer.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I mentioned that at one point, the part with Silky.
@jakewerderly5959
@jakewerderly5959 Жыл бұрын
You know, I'm glad you brought up the DSP clip. Wanted to respond to you on that TIHYDP for that comment with how on point you were with his social links and relationships. It was rather funny.
@ThundagaT2
@ThundagaT2 Жыл бұрын
You know its funny, for me I didnt really have any of those issues when i played P3 for the first time. It was P3P Male route, was also my very first Persona game. And i wasnt using guides for anything except for I think Elizabeth requests. But i guess people just experience things differently.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I was rewatching bits of that video to find where that clip was and... it hit me just how much of an a-hole he was. It's why I don't mind the TIHYDP videos. At the same time I think it's completely reasonable to end up forgetting the 60/90 day timer or accidentally double-booking on someone and being hit with a Reverse, and if you fail to recover from Reverse the SL becomes Broken and YOU CAN'T SUMMON PERSONAS OF THAT ARCANA FOREVER. I like P3, I feel Reverse should still exist in some capacity, just... it shouldn't be THIS harsh.
@jakewerderly5959
@jakewerderly5959 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy agreed. It was just rather funny to see you there back then. He was worse in P3 than P4.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
@@jakewerderly5959 Main thing I remember in P4 was him going into a dungeon without a party then complaining that the game didn't warn him when IT DID (Teddie gives you an "Are you SURE you want to do that?" if you try and go into a dungeon solo) and he just mashed past it.
@ManuCarrotman312
@ManuCarrotman312 Жыл бұрын
So P5T looks pretty decently interesting. I don't have very strong feelings towards it yet, but I'll be definitely checking it out when it drops. I'll say that the absence of Crow and Violet do hurt a bunch, especially Crow since I'll take literally any chance to spend more time with what has become one of my absolute favorite character in any media ever and I was already hurt by their absence in Strikers where I was hoping them to be at least non-plot related DLC extra characters. I do hope the DLC does bring them in, and maybe Sophie and Wolf too. The chance to have Crow and Wolf interact with each other is being extremely slept on. Buuut ultimately it will not be a total deal-breaker to me. Besides, both this game and P3R have been stated to arrive to Xbox Game Pass right away, and given I play on Xbox and I have free Game Pass thanks to a good friend of mine, I can check it out with zero compromise. As for Persona 3 Reload, I'll address the elephant in the room right away: Yes, I am actually rather upset they are deciding to leave out The Answer and FeMC, because I was actually hoping for a definite version. The Answer honestly kind of sucked mainly because gameplay-wise it was just constant fighting against enemies that were unnecessarily hard for the wrong reasons, which is something they could've tweaked, it's still important story content. And FeMC, while not canon to the larger franchise adds a lot of replay value and has some great Social Links, her SL with Shinji, regardless of people's stance on its outcome, is legit one of the absolute best SLs in the franchise in my opinion. At this point I'm thinking they're gonna do what they seem to love doing and give this remake the Golden/Royal treatment in the future. The Voice Cast change honestly doesn't bug me in the slightest, immediately being upset over a recast feels dumb when you still haven't even heard the new voices. Plus I play Persona with Japanese voices most of the time anyway. But yeah, they damn better add platonic routes for the girls. I'd be okay if they kept the jealousy system if that was the case because just adding platonic choices would instantly nerf the jealousy system into being more tolerable since and non-romanced girl would logically not suffer jealousy, making non-harem playthroughs far more lenient. As well as you know, allowing those playthroughs to even exist in the first place without intentionally stopping a SL mid-way through. Which ended up reversing it as well. Long story short, I'm disappointed by several of their decisions but I'm still looking forward to it. No matter what seeing a more accessible version of P3 on the modern Persona engine was something I wanted for a long time. Now it won't be long before people also ask for a P4 Remake too, which would pretty much be mainly for the visual upgrade. And tbh, I can't say a lot for their third announcement. I am completely out of the loop there and I have essentially no experience with any Atlus game that isn't Persona. Except Trauma Center, but that's both off-topic and it's not coming back. Soooo yeah. The End.
@michaelogara9056
@michaelogara9056 Жыл бұрын
Tha way i see it with persona 3 reloaded is, I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic, I'm looking forward to it but I'll alwahs wait and see, for refantasy im so hyped!!! Looks like a game made for me
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Me too, but I'm actually liking Reload more the more I see of it. (And after the clarification that "no FES content" just means "no The Answer")
@michaelogara9056
@michaelogara9056 Жыл бұрын
@BigKlingy honestly I can agree, when I heard they ment no the answer I was okay with it, and when I hear there will be a whole new voice cast I was unsure but you definitely put it in a better light, and I'm excited to see what the new cast can do
@Alnix2
@Alnix2 Жыл бұрын
Gonna say things along the lines of the FemMC removal in Reload would have never been a deal breaker for me, I definitely understand peoples pain of those being gone and wish they could have been there myself to at least put at least a little bit of an end to the "definitive P3 Discourse" As far as the recasting goes, a full recast I honestly did imagine was a decent possibility if P3 were to be remade (especially as of rn in this time where I imagine they would have only brought back 3-4 of OG Sees that was in dancing btw had they did partial). And I am hopeful that this new cast can at least bring this dub can bring it up to footing of the OG one for me which I do kinda have that nostalgia bias for admittedly with voices along the lines of Akihiko, Mitsuru, Shinjiro in OG. Some of the new VA's do at least play some characters I have bias for in things along the lines of FE and Pokemon (New Yukari playing the more modern Elincia alts in FEH, New Aigis playing fem Shez, and new Makoto also playing Brendan in Pkmn Masters) so that should help a little bit at least I feel. There is always the possibility maybe may be some more classic VA's in other things playing the side characters or antagonists to at least some semblance of a hybrid of classic and these modern VA's in here (which tend to be my favorite game dubs btw which is what FE and other SMT games tends to have at those times) but I'm feeling doubful of it of the same time
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 Жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to the STRGP train. I think another reason why people don't like the social links in 3 is that some don't really tue into the plot. This is why Kenji is disliked since his arc doesn't match 3s themes compared to Akihiko and Junpei who get more backstory and fleshed out development. Even Ken and Koromaru has good arcs that develops them, especially Ken. Compared to 5 where while yes they're not as flawed they all have good arcs and tie into the story. Even Ohya the least liked social link has an arc that ties into the games themes and fits into the story. I think if Kenji had a more meaningful story arc than dating older women, it wouldn't be so despised. Interesting about project fantasy. Id didn't know about that history. Pretty cool. Hopefully Showstopper will eventually be done. Definitely a challenging mission especially for Sonja.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I feel it's part of P3's charm that there's a separation between the plot and Social Links. It kinda adds to the protag's "double life" by having separate school friends and... demon-hunting friends.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy true. That is a good take.
@Wibiki43
@Wibiki43 Жыл бұрын
Even before Reload was "officially leaked," (which is a really weird phrase by the way,) I had predicted that FeMC would more than likely be DLC, just cause it seemed like the most Atlus thing to do. Now with everything else out, I'd also bet they might put The Answer alongside it since, like you said, the original was just an expansion without outright being called that. If that's true though, it still makes me nervous as to when P6 eventually does come out, though I'm still sure it'll happen in the next five years or so, just like with KH4. (It really says something when I'm thinking that that is the minimum amount of time it takes for these games to come out, not that I'm complaining. I mean, look at how TotK came out.)
@connorharnage6697
@connorharnage6697 Жыл бұрын
What part of it makes you nervous? No criticism here, just asking for clarification
@Wibiki43
@Wibiki43 Жыл бұрын
@@connorharnage6697 I didn't mean I was nervous about the game, I meant I was nervous as to when it would be releasing, although I do everybody doesn't hype it up too much.
@connorharnage6697
@connorharnage6697 Жыл бұрын
@@Wibiki43 It's the Persona fandom. They'll be hyped for like a day then complain for a week and back to hyped lol. Still I've said it before I'll say it again. My favorite series before Persona was ruined by being rushed out. I'll happily wait for P6
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I'm okay waiting for P6 too, especially with how close Re:Fantazio looks. I'm not bothered by no FeMC or The Answer honestly, even though I like The Answer.
@B_A-tr
@B_A-tr Жыл бұрын
1:12 wait, they just really did a triangle attack I dislike femc not being there as that means that theodore and the male party member slinks. I bet my soul that aigis will have a slink
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
There's no way they're not including Aigis' SL. There would be ACTUAL RIOTS if it wasn't there.
@breloompauncher5593
@breloompauncher5593 Жыл бұрын
Aside from Engage, I actually came across three of these actors in Octopath Traveler 2. Saab, Yeung voice two of the main eight characters(Osvald and Ochette) alongside Xanthe Huynh who plays a third(Agnea). Gonzalez is also an important supporting character in that game (Malaya). I got downvoted to hell on Reddit when I suggested as a half-joke that Xanthe might've put a personal recommendation for them to Atlus. They knocked it out of the park in that game. I highly recommend that game it has a lot of the same storytelling elements as Persona. Also, I feel P3 gets a pass with the Hermit Arcana. The reveal was hidden enough to where the non-attentive player wouldn't see it coming until it actually happened. I feel that was a good punchline because you only get access to Hermit via Kenji, if I remember correctly.
@s.a0411
@s.a0411 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I played OT 2 twice already because I enjoyed the game a lot due to the gameplay like the battle system, but I remember him saying he doesn’t like the HD-2D artstyle. I also think the battle system is sorta similar to persona, mostly from the finding the weaknesses on enemies.
@breloompauncher5593
@breloompauncher5593 Жыл бұрын
@@s.a0411 It is off-putting at first but eventually, you get used to it. It looks a hell of a lot better than 1 though, it's a lot less in your face about it.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
As the reply says, I'm not a huge fan of HD-2D, but I've heard good things about Octopath 2 so it might be something to play once I have nothing else to do. Bear in mind I still need to get through Live A Live, and then I have Wild Arms 3, Astral Chain and 13 Sentinels in my backlog. But Octopath 2's dub sounds AMAZING from what I've seen of it, so if most of these VAs are in it, I have high hopes. Best to avoid any Persona social media right now though... I mainly know Yeung because she's taking over for Rixia in Trails into Reverie.
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy By the way speaking of backlogs and Trails how far are you into Azure?
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Just beat "helmet". Was surprisingly pretty easy.
@Paws42
@Paws42 Жыл бұрын
@14:26 calling it now, there's gonna be a Mara + Arioch combo pack DLC, which includes the slime form of Mara and a super buffed version of the Evil Hands item Pre-order now for only 69 USD
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
You say that but they DID do Mara DLC before...
@Ramperdos
@Ramperdos Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the art style of Tactica, but I'll definitely watch your playthrough if if do one. I haven't played P3, but I find it really weird how there are so many different versions of the game and we're getting the base game again.
@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 Жыл бұрын
P5 tactics is something that while I probably won’t be buying day 1, it’s definitely on my eventually get list, cuz it looks really interesting. I just hope ui feels friendlier then Triangle Strategy I honestly don’t think I’m getting P3 reloaded, mainly because I’m not sure if playing it will feel “fresh” enough for me to keep going, as Iv seen quite a few videos on KZfaq. I don’t want to add stuff to my growing game catalog. I think I will buy some form of it when femc enters the fray, mainly because she drastically changes the interactions with the world entirely, and I haven’t seen much portable vids. On the new cast: On one hand I am going to feel weird listing to the new voices, considering I’m used to the old ones. On the other hand, the new cast is REALLY stacked, and I want to see them cook. Metaphor Refantasy is Altus way of trying to unite the SMT and Persona community lol /s. Jokes aside, I think that might be a day one purchase for me, looks really interesting
@blazethegamerreacts1543
@blazethegamerreacts1543 Жыл бұрын
one thing i am wondering of which all Consoles these are to be on, hopefully accessible to all, as the best Console i have is a Switch
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's probably going to be on everything, like the Persona multi-plat announcement.
@blazethegamerreacts1543
@blazethegamerreacts1543 Жыл бұрын
that would be amazing
@Wibiki43
@Wibiki43 Жыл бұрын
Your comparison of The Boys to what Re: Fantasy might be reminds me of a TV Tropes article I read a while back that compared that show to Invincible. (Another violent superhero satire that came out on Amazon, funnily enough.) The basic gist of it was, while both shows are effectively deconstructions of the genre, The Boys was from a comic that vehemently hated it and wanted to destroy everything about it, with the show toning it down and in general being much better in every aspect, while still keeping its trademark pessimism, Invincible loves just about everything about the genre and does something different just because they'd think it'd be interesting.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I've heard Overly Sarcastic Productions making similar comparisons, though she got a lot of backlash for bashing The Boys without watching it. I feel like it's not a show for me, but it's probably good. The comics, on the other hand, well from what I can tell the author just really hates superheroes and writes superhero torture porn.
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Garth Ennis hates any and all superheroes except Superman pretty much. The Boys TV show is not nearly as cynical or focused on shock value/disgust. And it reworks the story to be more of a social commentary on corporations and celebrity culture/power.
@absoul112
@absoul112 Жыл бұрын
4:22 The red text is funny to me because of two phrases used in fighting game circles for specific games franchises. "No Mai, no buy" and "No Baiken, no buy, Ken". Both phrases exist because the respective game (KOF 12 and Guilty Gear Xrd) didn't have the popular character people wanted. There's a difference between a fighting game's characters and an RPG's (tactical or otherwise) characters but it's not unreasonable for people to care so much imo. I made a joke in a chat room about them adding "The Answer" as DLC. I didn't know Kenji was that hated. I'm not a big fan of the guy but I thought his Social Link was fine. That third game looks interesting.
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
Kenji just... doesn't really have fans. Not everyone hates him but plenty dislike him and pretty much everyone else finds him boring. His link is kinda just watching him be an idiot trying to bang his teacher, encouraging him being an idiot trying to bang his teacher, and then he fails to bang his teacher but is still an idiot who didn't really grow or change. It doesn't help that he's Junpei's direct replacement. I don't think it's a coincidence that he got cut from FemC's route. Or that in the link he shows up in the characters just think he's a useless moron. Or that you get the opportunity to agree with them. Or that FemC beats him up in a Drama CD.
@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 Жыл бұрын
@@nachohangover5104 Talked about being a character that gets dunked on lol
@kokorikopi
@kokorikopi Жыл бұрын
P3R not including the rerelease's content, to me, has a bit of both greed and altruism in it. Atlus's marketing is not great, but I'm 100% sure they know the popularity of FeMC, and The Answer is... the end of the story. It would be stupid to completely ignore them. It seems almost certain that they're going to be DLC, both because they know they can get away with it, but also to make sure that the base game is as polished as it can be before working on what they view as auxillary. I don't trust Katsura Hashino as far as I can throw him, but Re:Fantasy looks *really* promising. Beautiful, for one thing, but there's a ton of promise even mechanically.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see people defending The Answer now, since it used to be near-unanimously hated. FeMC is a "take it or leave it" kind of thing for me.
@GaeaRage0798
@GaeaRage0798 Жыл бұрын
So far, it pisses me off that The Answer won't be included in P3 Reloaded. I'm still clinging to the posibility of The Answer being included as Post Launch DLC. But knowing ATLUS' track record, if they decide to include The Answer latter, it will be their excuse to launch a full priced re-release.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's funny how most people used to HATE The Answer, and now that it's removed its fans are coming out of the woodwork. I personally like The Answer a lot, but I also don't think it's 100% necessary to include.
@GaeaRage0798
@GaeaRage0798 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigKlingy The only thing that I hated about The Answer was the gameplay, and this was ATLUS' opportunity to fix that.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
@@GaeaRage0798 I actually really enjoy The Answer's gameplay. I feel like I might be the only one.
@asuraofwrath
@asuraofwrath Жыл бұрын
i dont understand how people keep thinking akechi is coming back even if he's alive at the end of royal he's not going to appear to the phantom thiefs and sumi is a professional athlete so of course she cant be around with the phantom theifs as much unlike marie who literally has nothing really going on except being a weather women which is a just dayjob unlike sumi who has to travel all over the place for her athletics for tournaments and such and akechi is still presumed dead by the phantom theifs so to have both in a side game would mean it would have to be either before marukis palace or after royal with an issue so bad akechi (if he's alive) would have to reach out to the phantom thiefs himself to rejoin the team and sumi during a long stretch of time she dosn have any tournaments planned so why include them when they have reasons to not participate in most side storys which also gives more attention to the new character unless its DLC with an expanded plot or there appearance isn't canon and are just units for the player to use but are never acknowledged in the story
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I agree, Sumi has reasons to not be in Strikers and nothing in Strikers implies Royal can't be canon. It's an argument it annoys me to keep seeing.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 Жыл бұрын
Persona tactics: it looks interesting. Interesting it between the third semester and strikers. Yoshizawa should be in the cast at least Persona 3 reload: annoyed that the answer and FeMc aren't there unless dlc(or god forbid re-release). Also hope persona 1 and 2 duology get a remake. Also for me I just wanted to social link the male party members. metaphor: looks cool and interesting.
@lunaamethyst5724
@lunaamethyst5724 Жыл бұрын
I also hope that the girls get platonic routes, alongside making things more forgiving in general. I've never played the male MC route, so this'll be a great time to play it. It's also good timing, as I've beaten 3 Portable, Golden, and Royal, so I'll be able to hop straight into it.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Some people say the male MC got platonic routes in Portable? I've never seen proof of that.
@lunaamethyst5724
@lunaamethyst5724 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I've never seen it either, but I know FeMC has platonic routes
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Male didn't. Female did.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
@@nachohangover5104 I had a feeling.
@TheIvoryDingo
@TheIvoryDingo Жыл бұрын
Here are my quick thoughts on the games: - Persona 5 Tactics: Neat addition to P5's roster of spinoff titles, but it certainly seems like a case of "I'll wait to sometime after release to get it... and probably won't end up getting it" in part because of how I dropped off of Strikers. - Persona 3 Reloaded: A remake of the 'modern era' Persona games that I have always been the least interested in to play due to the various instances of "early instalment weirdness/clunk" should be right up my alley... Or it would be if it truly was THE definitive version of Persona 3 which it could only be in my eyes if it at LEAST had the Answer. - Metaphor Re Fantazio: Neat that it has the press turn system? Other than that, I'd need to see what people think of it around release (though I'll probably have forgotten about it by then). In other news that was recently released: WE FINALLY GET A COLLECTION OF ACE ATTORNEY 4-6! While the games in the collection give Apollo a rather... mixed spotlight, I think naming the collection after him was the better choice. And for those who say that the collection of 4-6 is lesser than 1-3... I disagree as someone who thinks the majority of cases in the first two games are meh/heavily flawed at best (with the exceptions being 1-4 and 2-4) and as a result have a higher opinion of both 4 and 5 than most of the fandom. In other, OTHER news that is only related to this by virtue of it being an RPG, I finished the FF16 Demo right before watching this and so far I am enjoying it quite a bit (even if the demo is just the easy opening of the game) to the point that I'm considering to pre-order the game. I gotta say though... the demo ends at a cliffhanger that is JUST painful enough to make the wait until the release thursday next week irksome in a good way (on the "Cliffhanger scale" of 1 to "Trails in the Sky FC", I'd give the FF16 demo a 6).
@connorharnage6697
@connorharnage6697 Жыл бұрын
The Answer and FeMC may be DLC. Still I'm not begging for either of them tbh. I get there are limitations on games like these and I just want the best possible version of Persona 3. It doesn't need The Answer. It doesn't need FeMC. It just need to do the base game, do it well and it's enough for me. But that's just my thoughts
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Not to force you but I encourage you to pick Strikers up again, it's widely regarded as one of the best Persona spinoffs for a reason. And I'm glad we're finally getting an AA4-6 trilogy re-release too. Especially now that the 3DS E Shop is dead. (They'll need to re-release the Layton crossover now, I guess)
@TheIvoryDingo
@TheIvoryDingo Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Oh I know why, I've already seen the story by watching a playthrough. The gameplay just didn't really gel with me
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty confident Metaphor Re Fantazio will be great.
@ultimateshadow7522
@ultimateshadow7522 Жыл бұрын
I'm mildly irritated that the Female Protagonist isn't in the base game mostly by principle. These games are part Social Sim, and I always thought it was great that FES caters to both genders to make it a more inclusive experience. I think the money they spent on the complete recast would have been better spent on this, BUT I'm expecting Atlus to milk this for all it's worth and add the Female Protagonist, the Answer, and even an option to use the original voice cast as paid DLC. Some people will complain about this if it happens--justifiably so--but this is only my second time with Persona 3 after the Portable Port (which I haven't played yet due to massive backlog), so I'm OK them potentially doing this. Other than that, Tactica looks great--it's like an altered Devil Survivor, and Metaphor Re Fantazio seems interesting.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I do think they should have different protag options, but more like Pokemon or modern Fire Emblem, just a pronoun change and a model swap, and MAYBE some different social options, but no huge changes to the main story.
@unboundsky9999
@unboundsky9999 Жыл бұрын
While I liked the idea of the FeMC is P3P, the actual execution had a few… rough points. Mainly hurting the characterization of the male cast (Not for the reasons you might think). Spoilers for the FeMC Route and Persona 3 in general I guess I don’t really care for Junpei becoming a massive misogynist in the FeMC route. While Junpei is supposed to be a jerk early on, I think the female route takes it a bit too far. It doesn’t help that since he replaces Kenji as the Magician social link, he can flip flop between being hating everything and being your best friend depending on whether it’s a story scene or a social link scene. However, the much worse thing is the fact that you can save Shinjiro if you max out his social link. He becomes hospitalized and is put out of commission for the rest of the story (which is almost worse than him hanging around since you get neither the benefit of being able to hang out with him more nor the emotional impact of his death). It massively lessens the impact of Akihiko and Ken’s character arcs which sucks especially for me since Akihiko’s Persona awakening is my favorite scene in the game. It also doesn’t help when the game is about the inevitability of death to have you be able to prevent the most important death scene in the game. I honestly would’ve been fine if they put the FeMC in the game and the only changes are your character model and the pronouns characters refer to you by. I like some of the social links in her Route but I rather not have them than the worsening of the main story.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
FeMC's story changes are incredibly controversial, and I agree with some of what you say. I never considered that it adds a layer of sexism to Junpei's initial resentment and jealousy of the MC being the leader but that's pretty yikes, especially considering how supportive he is in her Social Link with him.
@Shadow_Dragon2453
@Shadow_Dragon2453 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's never played Persona 3, I'm excited to play Reload.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm hoping this remake will do!
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
Tactica looks promising. Hopefully the gameplay is good. I still miss Devil Survivor though. Reload looks like about what people expected. Hoping some of the weaker party members get buffed. My main issue is we're seemingly stuck with the original S. Links. Look, Persona 3's were the first in the series and a lot of them are bad or boring. People *hate* Nozomi. People find Bebe, Mamoru, and Keisuke super boring. People either dislike or are bored by Kenji. I don't think it's a coincidence all these guys got replaced in Femc's route. And then there's how 3 made you agree with everything people said for points that people don't like such as in Kaz and Hidetoshi's links. I'm all for social links with characters with big flaws (Tanaka, Maya, and Mutatsu are links people actually like) but the thing about a lot of the P3 links is they're unlikable, boring, or unlikable *and* boring. Maybe they'll get a rework but... Metaphor looks awesome visually, I love the artstyle. Looking forward to learning more.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 Жыл бұрын
Yeah part of the reason why I'm liking the female route of P3 is the social link roster is much better.
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
​@@starmaker75 Yeah the only real loss for FemC is Maya. But even then Saori is a great S. Link in her own right.
@SomeAsian
@SomeAsian Жыл бұрын
I am just PRAYING the male party members get SOMETHING at least.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I definitely see all of that. I'd like the S Links you mention to get some re-writes (hey, if the Advance Wars remake can make Andy lovably dumb instead of annoyingly dumb...) but I also dout it.
@dbfan199
@dbfan199 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't played Xcom I highly recommend trying it. the 2012 Remake is great. same with XCOM 2. Also I very much agree with your thoughts on VA's in P3.
@proctoscopefilms
@proctoscopefilms Жыл бұрын
I didn't know there were people that liked tactical action games that hadn't played XCOM.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
XCom just feels so different from Fire Emblem and Advance Wars that I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy it. Its maps also look a bit same-y and indistinct from what screenshots I've seen. I might try it one day.
@dbfan199
@dbfan199 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I do hope you give it a shot one day and enjoy it. there are quite a few ways the access it and it's on sale frequently. Though I will say it's more about the story of your personal playthrough rather then a big on going narrative. it has very different vibes then FE.
@gazerbeyond6371
@gazerbeyond6371 Жыл бұрын
P5T: Looks interesting. I already made a comment about how I feel about Kasumi, and Akechi? To be honest, as relevant he might be to the story, it's pretty clear he's meant to be an extra to the main PT group, by the standards of the story. So yeah, I'm okay with him being DLC or whatever P5RE: I really wanted FeMC. I will admit The Answer is kind of a drag gameplay-wise BUT all the events in it are canon, so not adding it is kinda questionable... Unless of course DLC again Meta: I didn't even remember this project existed, but I am very interested in it. Seeing a genuine adaptation of the persona mechanic in another game, including its themes, in a more traditional RPG scenario seems like it has a lot of potential. I hope it is a satisfying experience
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Meta is the one I'm kinda most excited for now. Weirdly P3RE is probably the lowest of the three, but more because... I kinda know it's going to be good? I love P3 so much there's very little the remake could do to make me not like it. The other two, I'm more excited because I don't know what to expect.
@PADRII
@PADRII Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what Reload's gonna do with Igor and who's voicing him. Think Lodge actually gets his due or do they bring back Dan Woren? IDK if the Japan dub with reuse this voice lines either.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Actually yeah, I wonder about that too. Perhaps this could be a testing ground for a new Japanese Igor VA?
@thebravegallade731
@thebravegallade731 Жыл бұрын
I honestly wonder if they are thinking about femc as dlc content, potentially also with FES content too.
@bradleyharris774
@bradleyharris774 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm pretty meh on the P3 Remake as a whole. I had a sneaking suspicion P3 was getting a remake when Atlus ported Portable to Steam. Although it has been fun watching the fandom throw a collective temper tantrum over the changes being made. I'm glad the cast is being entirely switched given some of the "questionable" performances given by certain characters.. I'm not losing sleep over The Answer not being there as in my eyes it didn't add anything to the P3 experience until the VERY end, after 20+ Hours of excruciating dungeon crawling. And the FeMC. Again, pretty meh. I've never really had any strong opinions on her, she's just kinda there. An excuse I see from people is that having the FeMC would mean creating a completely different game on top of Reload, including re-animating the cutscene and recording new dialogue. This would be a valid excuse... if Atlus was some small indie company but no. They definitely have the resources to put FeMC in the game. From what the screenshots I've seen, the animated cutscenes aren't Demon Slayer levels of quality, and the cutscenes from The Journey clock in at around 30 minutes. It's sad she's not in the remake and it's a dick move from Atlus but I'm not losing sleep over it. As for P5T. *Sigh*, is anyone else getting tired of Persona 5? It's like when Atlus was milking P4 for all its worth before they moved onto P5. I love the Phantom Thieves but I think it's time to move on considering that it's been nearly 7 years since P5's original JP release.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I feel like P5 is being milked less than 4 was? But that could just be bias. And P4 getting TWO animes. I'm not losing sleep over the P3 changes either.
@Cyberspace318
@Cyberspace318 Жыл бұрын
0:03 Yep, and what a thing it was! 0:17 That's fair, and I'm pretty excited for it too, so it will be nice to hear your thoughts on it. 0:35 Come on, TMS wasn't THAT bad. ...But it is true that it wasn't quite what people were expecting. 0:58 I was okay with the humour, but it's totally understandable if it's not your cup of tea. 2:15 In other words, this game is probably going to basically be Persona 5 3. 2:38 Wow, that's actually really fitting for a Persona game. 3:37 ...God, sometimes I hate being a Persona fan. The fandom's great and all, but holy crap, there are some morons in this community. 4:50 Not to mention, the DLC could also bring back more characters than just those two, like Zenkichi and Sophia, or maybe even characters from previous Persona games! 4:54 Oh yeah! In the immortal words of Akihiko, I've been waiting for this! 6:06 I have a friend who isn't happy about the recasts, but I'm honestly okay with it. I recognize most of these voice actors (the only ones I don't know are Ken and Shinjiro's), and I know they're easily capable of giving performances just as good as the original cast. In particular, I am VERY excited to hear Zeno Robinson as Junpei, hearing him as Fogado in Engage made me want to see him in more things, and now, he's going to be voicing one of my favourite fictional characters, and I know he is going to kill it in this role! 6:42 Heh, nice. 6:56 *cough, cough* Liam O'Brien! Vic Mignogna! *cough, cough* 6:59 Yep, hi Fuuka and Ken. 7:09 Lol! 8:08 It's incredibly likely that they will, and that's exciting! I'm definitely excited to learn who'll be voicing Akinari and Tanaka! 8:39 That's an amazing analogy, and it definitely shows how pointless voice actor debates are, since certain people will prefer certain performances over others, and there's nothing wrong with that. 9:02 Actually, I believe they've confirmed in interviews that aspects of the main story that were introduced in FES (probably things like the Aeon S.L.) will be in the remake, but The Answer definitely won't be in the game. 12:18 Ain't that the truth... 14:59 It is possible, but there's no way to know. 15:32 Yep, it definitely feels more like Persona than other games that also feel like Persona. 17:18 Hell yeah, Press Turns! So yeah, I am hyped for all 3 of these games, especially Metaphor: ReFantazio!
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
0:35 It's not bad at all, I agree. It's just... not really a crossover. It's an original IP that happens to have Fire Emblem names in it. When I say "bad crossover" I don't mean "bad game." 3:37 Unfortunately this sums up my feelings now too. "The Answer sucks!" [remake doesn't have it] "Noooo we take it back, The Answer is good!" 8:08 Oh, Tanaka is going to be GREAT! 15:32 Helps that Hashino and his team are working on it. 17:18 Please let this be true...!
@HolyAlondite
@HolyAlondite Жыл бұрын
I don't really have any thoughts on P5T, so I'll move on to the other two games. P3rR. Right now, I'm unsure of where I stand. The main story is pretty good, even if I'm not head over heels for it, and I have faith that it'll still be done well. However, my main problems with the P3 experience come from everything else. Combat is punishing in an unfun way due to AI-control, the Social Link system is positively byzantine and the writing of said social links is......not great. Easily the weaker part of P3's writing (especially for the party members) However, they have a second chance to try and fix those flaws. Right off the bat, we have confirmation of controllable party members which was easily the make-or-break in my eyes. Kenji's existence pretty much confirms that the male party members won't get Social Links this time either, which really sucks. We don't know one way or the other about if romance is still forced or not, but if it isn't, then that gives me hope that they'll actually rewrite the Social Links. So yeah, all in all, P3R isn't a 'must-buy' for me, but depending on how faithful they are, I may or may not get it eventually when it goes on sale. As for Re:Fantazio, I don't have too much to say. Personally, I really hope it *doesn't* go the dark fantasy route, but even if it does, it'll depend on the specific execution. I think the combat UI looks extremely ugly though imo, which is strange when they're trying to imitate P5's which was amazing. Meanwhile, this is too visually busy and chaotic to flow well. Also, if I do get it, one of my characters will permanently be a ninja and I will not be stopped from doing so. So yeah, those are my thoughts.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
A lot of P3 fans bring up that the AI party isn't that bad if you use the Tactics options, but it's a pretty counter-intuitive thing to expect new players to do and full control is just more convenient. And yeah, the old S Link system was insane, remember P3 was their FIRST TIME trying the system and it shows.
@HolyAlondite
@HolyAlondite Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I'm very aware, especially since I watched your P3 playthrough so I even know the bit about the devs not thinking a Max Social Link run was physically possible, and it does indeed show. But yeah, hopefully P3R will take cues from P4 and 5 in that specific department
@DarknessGuard
@DarknessGuard Жыл бұрын
It was funny that I was thinking "wouldn't it be cool to have a game between Socom and Rappids with Persona 5" but I was thinking more towards the line of Shadow Ops side of P5(R) events. But I'm honest, while I still can't get enough of P5, I getting sick of all the Sumire neglecting.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I'm sick of all the Sumire simping, so I don't mind not having her. I like her character but her extreme fans get annoying quickly. They just did an interview mentioning how well some tactics elements like hiding in cover, ambushing and high ground fit the PTs, so I'm getting hyped for this.
@DarknessGuard
@DarknessGuard Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I don't encounter much Sumire simping but you know, if some more and good writing would be done with her, maybe she would show new sides of herself that would turn away some of those who simp for the wrong reasons. In the end though, these only proofs to me further we have 1 universe with Vanilla P5, Q2, Strikers and now Tactica and an alternate universe that is Royal. Meanwhile in Tactica Akechi also never got an improved confidant and isn't here but still being badly written. And also Maruki doesn't exist here.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I still don't think there's anything in Strikers that's incompatible with Royal being canon.
@Patchnose
@Patchnose Жыл бұрын
The Akechi thing confuses me. Why are people upset about him not being here HES DEAD! In vanilla hes dead and in Royal hes still fucking dead. That was the whole part of Akechis arc for Royal. He would rather be dead than given life by Maruki. Dudes fucking dead.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
He has a lot of fans and some think there's ambiguity. But I agree, I like how his story ended in Royal.
@Patchnose
@Patchnose Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I'm one of his biggest fans. I love the guy. But I found there to be no ambiguity. I felt that final scene was a whisper of what could of been and not him actually being alive.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigKlingyyeah for me I had enough akechi. The third semester ended his character on high note.
@alexgibson781
@alexgibson781 Жыл бұрын
P5 Tactica: I did not know this was revealed until now but it looks awesome, the new character too, they both give me big PQ vibes so I'm really hoping it's just as good. P3 Reload: Not going to lie, I was more annoyed than happy when this leaked because I really thought Atlus wouldn't be so money hungry as to port it only to announce a remake months later, thus getting twice the money from P3 fans like me who thought the port meant a remake won't ever happen, then when you said they said there's no FES content I was legit mad for a bit, but I got over that once I heard the reasons you gave for why that's not actually so bad, so now I'm genuinely looking forward to it. Re:Fantazio: I... also didn't know about this, but medieval Persona sounds awesome too.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's true that porting P3P right before a remake is kinda shady, but it was P3P's bare-bones port that actually got people MORE suspicious a remake was coming, since they probably did it so they could say "you have FeMC at home".
@galladeforce
@galladeforce Жыл бұрын
So what I want to say about the other two announcements. Persona 5 Tactica this won’t be the only game this year whose name is said as L-E take place in a Revolution. Tactica does look a lot more animated than Q does, which feels weird as I’m kind of used to the style being used by handhelds, where it feels more at home on a weaker console in addition to being a stylistic choice, since on the 3DS you could choose to focus on lower quality more realistic models or more cartoony and stylised designs, here it’s just a stylistic choice, still nice looking I admit In regards to Tactica not featuring Akechi, while you could somewhat argue that good old Sumi being there would make sense regardless, however canonically Akechi being part of the story without ample story justification would be very limiting to when this would take place. using Q2 as an example it had to take place when it did to have Akechi in the party, While I’m cautiously optimistic about this a potential issue that I feel could possibly happen is lack of different game feel amongst its party members outside of skills, since we never see any unique passive abilities or any implication of unique movement options in the trailer that would chance how you would approach with Morgana over Ann, or how much their willing to go since they could crutch on something that’s in every Persona game, it’s SMT based skill system and call it a day. And they only have 8 characters who could take part in battle which seems which doesn’t have as much potential for diverse gameplay. Or have certain characters play very similar nd have the same role but have other aspects to tell them apart. By comparison while it also had a very limited roster the fact that Strikers was an action game they would have to be more varied in game feel of it’s cast, they couldn’t just have Ryuji and Yosuke differ only in animation or numbers, which can be the only thing you need to have characters be different in a tactical rpg, even Advance Wars which has its unit do vastly different things has thing like the Tanks which onky really differ in number, when it comes to their basic combat Onto the other non Persona 3 game, I’m not against Metaphor in any way, not every game has to appeal to me on the offset, but admittedly since it’s not based on something that I’m familiar with I’m not as excited and hence would have to see a bit more of what makes it tick before I make any kind of judgement or decision as to I should purchase or not. Hence I don’t feel I have much to say about it’s gameplay or implied story on any meaningful level, more on the visual however, I think it looks very good, it looks grimy but also advanced and update to, unlike Octopath Traveller and Triangle Strategy that look ugky in a way which doesn’t look appealing to me, different mediums but I feel they have the same aesthetic Using the Boys as an example of malicious deconstruction, yeah the writer of the original comic, Garth Ennis is very much known for his dislike of superheroes, hence while you admittedly bring up issues with a genre in a work it can make anything you say come across as exaggerated because your going in with a bias which clouds your judgement, I so admittedly like you prefer the idea of a constructive and affectionate that’s treating the work honestly and not like it’s creature a narrative informed by the biases of its reader. However I do feel that slightly hypocritical of me, a story idea I had for a fanfic (the actual media isn’t really important for my point) , while I would be doing it as a fan of the game in question and also providing an alternate lens of the games story and how some aspects can come off, but as a whole I feel that I would be going over a lot of the potential issues caused by that storylines it’s a sequel to witting, one that I’ve gone on record saying I really dislike, while to me it comes across as taking some of the storyline more realistically or taking implication around the games narrative that it doesn’t explore, it would hence end up portraying its source material quite unfavourably despite using actual canon material as the basis for what I’m saying, having a violent serial killer as a subordinate has the implication that your okay with immoral people following you being one example. Hence I feel it could very much come across as me being incredibly unfair to the source material, even though I don’t want to do so
@cartooncritic7045
@cartooncritic7045 Жыл бұрын
I don't have a lot to say about Persona 5 Tactica since I'm not likely to buy it. I don't tend to bother with the Persona spin-offs since most of them lack what I liked about the main series. Only one I tried was Persona Q and while I liked it the first time around I don't see myself playing it again. PQ2 not having an English dub meant that game was basically never seeing my money no matter what. I'm sure Strikers is fine but I have no strong desire to play it, and I feel the same about P5T. Metaphor: ReFantazio seems cool as hell. Definitely looking forward to it. Hopefully I'll have the time (and the cash) to spare after I get my hands on Final Fantasy XVI and Spider-Man 2. As for Persona 3 Reload....I'm not even gonna lie, when the trailer got leaked I got a little emotional. The leaked screenshots from months ago always put the possibility in the back of my mind and every new piece we got since then made me into that "Don't Give Me Hope" Hawkeye meme right up until the day of the Instagram leaks. I love what we've seen of the game from the trailer, officla art, screenshots, and dev interviews and I don't think I've been more excited for Persona since the days of the P5 hype cycle. Surprisingly, that excitement was not affected by the two big announcements people were mad about. Frankly speaking, I've never liked The Answer at all (I've played through P3FES a whole five times and The Answer only once) and am pretty ambivalent towards the FeMC at best. I don't think she's a *bad* addition to the game but she feels like a big symptom of all the technical compromises I hated about P3P (the visual novel presentation, general lack of 3D models outside Tartarus, the ruining of Fusion Spells). If the FeMC being gone means I never have to think about a Ken Amada romance or the final outcome of the FeMC's Moon S. Link ever again, I'm completely fine with that. Besides, the devs have said we're still getting most of the good Journey side content that I actually liked from FES and P3P as well as new scenarios with the male party members to compensate their lack of traditional S. Links, which I will never object to. And with the voice actor recasts, while I will certainly miss much of the old cast I'd much rather a complete recast a la Final Fantasy 7 Remake rather than kicking Vic and Karen out while keeping everyone else and it feeling wrong. They chose the least objectionable option, and it really helps that the new cast is full of actors I like from other stuff (Aleks Le, Allegra Clark, and Zeno Robinson are the big highlights for me there). I'm also very curious to know how they handle Igor given the situation with his own VAs. So yeah, Early 2024 is looking very nice so far.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I've got very similar opinions to you on P3Re. And " I'd much rather a complete recast a la Final Fantasy 7 Remake rather than kicking Vic and Karen out while keeping everyone else and it feeling wrong" sums up my views too.
@papadopulosarlequin5090
@papadopulosarlequin5090 Жыл бұрын
Haha putting dsp as an example is hilarious haha he is like a guinea pig for how clueless a player can be
@proctoscopefilms
@proctoscopefilms Жыл бұрын
Kenji is awesome if you were invested in the Kawakami social link 😉
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I was invested in Kawakami's Confidant... but not romantically. I don't HATE her romance as much as many fans do, but I don't think romancing her fits her or Joker's character. Her story itself is really good though.
@proctoscopefilms
@proctoscopefilms Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy people hate her romance ? Man the more I learn about the persona community, the more I realize that these are not my people
@rage_the_nerd
@rage_the_nerd Жыл бұрын
Oh nice, a P5 strategy game. Not feeling super passionate about it, but I might pick it up. Honestly, I'm with you on the not including FES stuff since yeah most of it is QOL stuff that will likely be included anyway, but I am a little miffed about them not including Femc for a couple of reasons: 1.) A lot of the femc social links are really nice, and you actually get to hang out with all your party members (though the Shinjiro SI definitely would've added complications) 2.) Atlus, if you want to keep acting like your protagonists are self-insert stand-ins for the player THEN AT LEAST ALLOW ANOTHER LARGE PORTION OF THE POPULATION TO DO THAT TOO. Though if they add the femc stuff as dlc like I saw other people suggest, I'd be okay with that. It would honestly be pretty good dlc since that's a lot of content to go through. Also Re:Fantazio looks really interesting and I'm definitely picking that up
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
One argument I've seen recently is it doesn't make sense for the male MC to be so close to the whole party, so his lack of male social links is justified. They're also not that necessary, since the boys get a lot of development in the main story. Still a little sad, but I'm okay with them not being there. But yeah, I'm all for a FeMC existing in the way of Pokemon or new Fire Emblem: just a change of look and pronouns for the protagonist but not affecting the story radically.
@ryanhatfield8602
@ryanhatfield8602 Жыл бұрын
The voice changes are my biggest problem and while it we’ll probably make the originals still my favorite still exited
@thedaemonwolf1814
@thedaemonwolf1814 Жыл бұрын
Gonna sound a little ironic coming from me, but I wasn't too fond of the chibi-ish artstyle for P5 Tactica when I first saw it. Rewatching the trailer though, I actually do think it's fitting given what the gameplay's looking like. They have longer limbs than the Q models, with larger feet and forearms that help draw attention to their limbs, which are the important parts that people need to see during cool combat stuff. The longer limbs are also easier to animate, and the artstyle gives them room to do stuff like embiggen limbs or weapons at times to help emphasize power. I'm with ya on not being too fond of Mario + Rabbids' humor, but I do think the gameplay is pretty solid, so P5T certainly has my interest. I'm excited for Persona 3 Reload, but I will admit I'm a bit worried about whether Makoto Yuuki's female social links will have platonic routes now or not, and I'm honestly a bit bothered by the lack of FeMC, even if I can understand it. Honestly, we'll just need to wait to see before I can say anything solid. ...Other than Zeno Robinson as Junpei being a "HELL YES!" moment! Zeno Robinson has become one of my favorite voice actors ever since Pokémon Journeys started. I know you don't care about the anime, but Zeno is the dub's actor for Ash's companion in that series, and I'm not kidding when I say he nails _every_ line! I love Goh so much more than I think I otherwise would because of just how darn good Zeno's performance is. He's also amazing as Gamma 2 in the Dragon Ball Super Super Hero film and the Xenoverse 2 tie-in DLC. While Metaphor being a "medieval Persona" game sounds interesting, I find a lot of things about it worrying. Something I haven't mentioned yet is that, reclassing systems... kind of tick me off. Like, I do the minimum of it in Fire Emblem, because it's cool to vary up my units (Sniper Etie isn't a bad unit, I'm just rusty and somewhat impulsive), but in a standard turn-based 3-4 Party Members-at-once RPG? Do not want! I like my party members to be their own people with their own skillsets, not a bunch of blank-slate virtual dolls to dress up in wacked-out ways that don't suit their personalities or backstories at all. The gameplay side otherwise looks interesting, the rest of my worries are about the story, and you summarized them aptly at 18:32 I think I've said this before, but personally, I'm not fond of "deconstruction" in general. Especially with Superheroes. There's hardly ever any sort of "deconstruction" thing that happens that doesn't seem to be immensely "bad faith" styled, or if it's not outright "bad faith deconstruction" its "let's just mindlessly chase this edgy new trend!" And Game of Thrones inspiration is just, a giant fucking crimson flag for me that I'm not gonna like something. Game of Thrones is everything I hate to see in fiction. I'm sorry to be profane about it, I just can't emphasize that enough. The popularity of it concerns me. I hate to say this when Summer Script might see, but I'm terrified our hopeful media company isn't going to get off the ground because our works are primarily going to be optimistic stories where the heroes are good people who actually manage to do good things, and the darkest hour is usually the start of the story before the protagonists really start to get the ball rolling. The Re:Fantazio trailer ending on "Fantasy is more than an empty dream" _feels_ optimistic to me, so hopefully it'll be fun, but I just can't support stuff like Injustice or Game of Thrones and the things that take after them. I'm gonna have to spoil myself on that story when it comes out before I decide if I might want to bother with the game. I agree with you that gameplay should be what sells games, for the most part. But when it comes to games as heavily story-driven as Persona, and RPGs in general for that matter? I think I've made my feelings on that clear, so I'll end there. I need to start actually watching your Advance Wars series. I put off the first episode because I just wasn't in the right mood and... well, the day after wasn't good. There's been a lot of stress since. People keep dying, my family's... just, ludicrously dysfunctional. Talking with friends has helped me stay mostly normal, but I'm afraid I'm a lot more loose "tongued" and snippy lately. Or if not snippy then just plain cynical. I've been kinda gluing myself to stuff I already like as a result. Hope you've been doing well.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back. Hope things get better for you. I was similar to you, iffy on P5T's artstyle until I saw the real trailer and it looked so good in motion. I'm hyped for Zeno Robinson because of Fogado in FE Heroes, who's actually pretty close to Junpei in personality and Zeno's GREAT there.
@thedaemonwolf1814
@thedaemonwolf1814 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I _knew_ he sounded like an older Goh! Fogado's amazing too! I need to pay more attention to the credits, huh? Now I'm even more hyped to hear him as Junpei!
@Jay-pm8jx
@Jay-pm8jx Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about portable content like femc and her social links but I honestly think the answer is gonna be dlc
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's pretty much the kind of thing that WOULD be a "DLC Episode" now, like Xenoblade 2 and 3's. In fact, that's almost exactly what it WAS back in the day, it just predated the concept of DLC.
@jaden149
@jaden149 Жыл бұрын
all of these game look like they will be fun replaying persona 3 with reload next year will probably be pretty cool
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
2023 is my year of Nintendo, 2024 is looking to be the year of Atlus.
@jaden149
@jaden149 Жыл бұрын
nintendo has been putting out good games this year i put in over 100 hours each in both Totk and fire emblem engage been thinking of getting the advance wars remake but not sure since i have never played the series before
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
If you've never played Advance Wars before now is the perfect time!
@theultimategamer95
@theultimategamer95 Жыл бұрын
My hype levels for the P3 remake went right down when they announced no The Answer or FEMC inclusion tbh (hope they come to delay the game to include them, but probably not). Still kinda excited for it though (just not as much) and will still play it, but yeah. The voice recasts don't bother me as long as they either sound similar or outright improve on what was already there tbh. Like the ORAS comparison though. I personally don't mind Kenji btw, he's quite the bro.
@SilentPsychopath
@SilentPsychopath Жыл бұрын
Same here, still kind of interested, but no female protagonist kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It kind of feels like a 'one step forward, two steps back' kind of thing. Especially with Alejandro Saab, aka Cyno from Genshin Impact and Jing Yuan from Honkai Star Rail voicing Akihiko.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
In the grand scheme of things though both are a pretty small part of P3. P3 is still over 100 hours of content without them, so I think it's fine.
@SilentPsychopath
@SilentPsychopath Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I'm not saying Alejandro Saab playing Akihiko is a bad thing, quite the opposite! I can see him being really good in this role, which is why I was hoping the P3 Portable social links would be in this game to expand the male characters out.
@thebravegallade731
@thebravegallade731 Жыл бұрын
ORAS was great, but BF would have made it near perfect
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it would've been nice. Still, ORAS is good for what it was.
@ThaPlaya1994
@ThaPlaya1994 Жыл бұрын
Persona 5 Tactica looks good. Kinda worried about that shot of Ryuji and Haru being controlled. Mainly since they did something similar in Q2. Let the fluff have more screentime darn it. 😂 As for people not wanting to buy it since Akechi and Yoshizawa are missing, I understand how they feel. I didn't buy KOF 14 until Rock Howard joined as DLC. He's my favorite to play as and aside from a few I wasn't super interested in anyone else. I imagine the people complaining feel the same way. Their favorites are not there so why bother? Not saying I agree but I sort of get it. Still gonna buy it personally. Looks fun. Metaphor Re Fantazio does look promising. Not much to say but I do want to play it when it releases. Persona 3 Reload is the big one for me. The thing that held P3 back is the outdated gameplay. But with this, it has a high chance of overtaking 5. I very much agree about the dating. Hopefully it gets fixed. Cautiously optimistic about the new cast. Heard a few before so hope they'll deliver. About Yukari, I was under the impression that the answer is what made people hate her. I'd argue that Shinjiro didn't sound so nice either. And there's everyone hating Morgana too and the performance there didn't sound too mean. Personally her sounding nicer wouldn't fit. Since she doesn't open up to others easily due to her experiences with her parents. Also I expected that Fuuka and Ken would've had been voiced by their recent actors in P3 dancing. Who were way better. Very much looking forward to Reload.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Technically speaking I also didn't buy Marvel Vs Capcom 3 until Phoenix Wright got in, but that's a genre I'm not really into so he was the main draw I had. For this, it's Persona and it's tactics, so that's enough. Also I'm more a fan of the PTs AS A GROUP than individual members. I think more people are coming around to Yukari, and her actions in The Answer, now that there's more awareness of grief and mental trauma and how they impact people. Same with Ken. More reasonable views have shifted from "HOW DARE HE GET SHINJI KLLED!" to "damn this kid needs therapy." People don't act rationally in the situations Yukari and Ken are in.
@nachohangover5104
@nachohangover5104 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I still think the Answer needed more time to show Yukari making up for being a jerk to make more people forgive her, which was the main issue.
@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 Жыл бұрын
…also, probably a rewrite of the whole let’s battle each other smt style thing
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I thought the ultimate payoff, her inviting Aigis to be her roomate, was great. But I agree they could've developed the journey there more.
@darthvigilante
@darthvigilante Жыл бұрын
I would say that the games are going to be badass when they are released.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 Жыл бұрын
I just want to see more. Persona 3 reload is looking good glad i didnt buy portable. Persona 5 tactica its a spinoff. I need to see more to be interested. Metaphor Re Fantazio looks amazing. Im waiting for the showcase to see more.
@Seastorm25_Rue
@Seastorm25_Rue Жыл бұрын
P5T looks really neat, and I'm curious about it. It'd be nice to have a Persona spin-off I can finally actually get through, considering I never managed to finish P5S or PQ2 thanks to the gameplay. It's sad because I enjoyed PQ2's character interactions a lot, I got underlevelled, dropped the difficulty and the number of characters I was using, but couldn't be bothered with all the grinding I probably needed to do. I've never heard of Re:Fantazio until now, but it looks so cool. My thoughts are pretty much the same as yours - I'm not worried about Persona 6 with the existence of this game. On the other hand, while P3R is exciting, it's also disappointing. My one hope for the next Persona game, however unlikely, was for it to have a female protagonist. Playing as a guy all the time isn't a _bother,_ but the one time I got to play as a girl in a Persona game was really nice. You don't think about those subtle differences in your experiences based on your gender until you see them side by side. Also, while I appreciate that they've (presumably) kept all the SLs from the original game, I think the feMC having all of the main party as SLs added a lot, and it'll suck to lose them. I hope in the rewrite the SLs get to be the quality of P5's. I feel like nothing happens in most of P3's SLs for the first four ranks. At least The Answer is something you can just watch on KZfaq, I guess. The implication they made with their poor wording was funny to me because I hadn't realised people would think losing Aigis' SL or Elizabeth's hangouts were real concerns. Oh, but it'd be disappointing to lose Theodore, too. I appreciate him a lot... but without the feMC, I don't really expect to see his return.
@Seastorm25_Rue
@Seastorm25_Rue Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah. I'll have to hear the voices for myself to decide how I feel about the cast change. I don't know most of the people by name but Mitsuru's VA being replaced by Dorothea/Shamir's is weirdly fitting and also strangely amusing. And I haven't played XCOM either, but it's one of my dad's favourite games. When my mum saw me playing 3H for the first time she commented that it looked just like my dad's game lol. As someone who plays for the story/characters just as much as the gameplay, it looks far too repetitive for my taste. But it's surprising that you haven't tried it.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
The Etrian Odyssey gameplay of the Q games can be hard to get into, I agree. I somehow clicked with it but not a lot of people do. Strikers I treated more like an Action RPG than a Warriors game. I just realized about Theo, yeah that's also sad. I don't think FeMC is completely essential to the P3 experience, but I hope Persona 6 has male and female options.
@Cynicz13
@Cynicz13 Жыл бұрын
Tactica potentially selling characters as dlc is a big no in my book even if I'm somewhat interested in the gameplay; hell if it sells well it might even get the typical persona treatment and release a complete edition down the road so I'll wait. Metaphorzo fantazo (or whatever) because it's a new IP and I don't have any expectations for how they do this game is the title I'm most interested in of these entries. I quite enjoy persona 3 but I don't trust Atlus to not try to further milk the fanbase with another version a year or two down the road so I'll wait. I have plenty of other games I can play in the meantime so it's not a problem. Not to mention I can always watch other people play these games if need be.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's actually sad to me that Persona 3 Reload took over the online discourse so much that Re:Fantazio isn't getting much discussion, since it was my favourite of these announcements too. P3Re was the one I'm least interested in too, though more because I already like P3 so much that I'm pretty much guaranteed to like it, the other two I don't know what to expect. I'm pretty desensitized to DLC at this point and I usually just ignore it, most of the time the game is fine without it. The one time I did get mad was Soul Hackers 2 making Satan and Mara day 1 DLC when they're very iconic SMT Demons that usually AREN'T DLC. Nemissa being DLC is fine since she's a past game cameo, but those two? No.
@silveracies9876
@silveracies9876 Жыл бұрын
How I feel for the intern aside, I am interested in all 3 ATLUS announcements. 3 Reload looks interesting, although I am hesitant about it, I like the look of Tactica the most but I kind of have apathy for it a bit less the visual style and more its another P5 spinoff with no P6 in sight, and Metaphor looks interesting but I tend to prefer more lighthearted knight stories when it comes to that time period and let's just say Atlus isn't known for that with SMT/Persona. 1:00 I can see the comparisons, and while I will say Sparks of Hope ditches a lot of... that humor (or maybe I was numb to it and don't remember it) from the first game it definitely is interesting as I really liked how the combat flowed in M + R, particularly in the second game. 1:33 Wow that trailer did not do it justice when I watched it during SGF. That looks stunning. 3:19 Side note: I like her look because it seems a bit like a Wild West outlaw to me, which I thought would mash up well with the P5 style (and I also see a lot of that in Wolf, but it is just a style of design I like). 8:02 And as far as I'm aware, most of them have the previous cast's best wishes on the project. I actually decided to look at the text in the trailer, and something is interesting about it. The first phrase just translates to "dark hour" from Spanish, but the second part (Dum spiro spero renascere) translates from Latin as "While I breathe, I hope to be reborn." I'm starting to wonder if that is just a general message about the themes (as the second half shows up before Yuki summons Orpheus) or if they may pull a FF7R style twist. (althougth it could just be because FF7 Rebirth was announced last week as well). 11:50 - 13:12 *THIS.* I really hope they drop jealousy (or retool it by actively choosing to pursue multiple romances), I think neglect could still work, but I wish it was a lot simpler and guides didn't have you to force break on Yukari. Although now that I think about it, I'm curious if they will keep the 3 stats with 6 ranks, or move to the now more standard 5 stats with 5 ranks. 15:08 Confession: When I first saw the portraits on the right of this screenshot, I immediately thought "That is Yu if someone hurt Nanako in front of him." 17:46 Maybe it's a 'restart battle' option? Or it will be a case of you recharge them after a battle/at a heal point/some other way and you could rewind time (I'm thinking along the lines of go back one full turn). 18:36 Oh boy... THAT trope... I have seen this become a lot more common lately, and it just reads to me as the old 'video games make you violent' argument, which I personally do not like. Deconstructions are great, do not get me wrong, but many people enjoy many types of media (or the inverse) for different reasons, all of which are valid. I apologize for the last point since it will likely be interesting, and even if it is that trope there are pieces of fiction I have enjoyed the plot line that deconstruct the player (such as Undertale or Spec Ops: The Line). Its just I've had that experience in real life and it just upsets me. But I am curious about that take if it does happen, and how ATLUS inteprets it.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
1:00 I really should give it a second chance someday. 11:50 Jealousy needs to be heavily revamped or gone, but I want Reverse to skill exist in some capacity. It should only happen for being a genuine ass to people. 17:46 It could just be a turn thing. 18:36 Totally agree there. I think people are just noticing that, let's just say "certain politically extreme people" have appropriated knights and Vikings and that's given the fantasy genre at bad reputation. We should let a few bad apples spoil the whole. I like Undertale and Spec Ops: The Line, but I feel like both were made with a lot of understanding of the original genre.
@DiegoG2004
@DiegoG2004 Жыл бұрын
Mario Rabbids AND Persona? Sign me in this instant! Before graduation day... Wait, Yoshizawa might get to be in a spin off!...or I guess they don't want you to get spoiled on those two by the spin offs showing them after their character developement. Elle? I know an Elle myself, and the contrast is strong. 6:31 Insert the Fuuka lines about Metis. They lacked emotion and sounded like they were made at the end of the session with no enthusiasm. Now we're adding Mitsuru to Allegra's increasing cast of memorable characters. I expect a Marin Karin with Dorothea lines meme soon. Or Mitsuru doing Hoes Mad. It'll be a shame if we don't get to see FeMC in HD glory (after we found her canonical name too!) nor Metis. Instead this is looking like BDSP all over again. I hope I'm wrong. Huh, Methaphor looks... promising. And will probably need a really long tutorial because oh wow there is a lot of stuff on the screen.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
...Mitsuru doing Hoes Mad is DEFINITELY going to be a meme.
@DiegoG2004
@DiegoG2004 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy It's only a matter of time until we get it
@AquaLantern
@AquaLantern Жыл бұрын
P5T: I'm worried because strategy games like this tend to not be very fun for me. Valkyria Chronicles, Code Name Steam, and ESPECIALLY SMT Devil Survivor. Simply put, the enemies get extremely annoying after a while. VC was the worst in this regard, with enemies random dodging and snipers with pin-point accuracy hitting you from 10 miles away and ambush reinforcements. SMT:DS for it's constant spam of hydras who can hit you from 2-spaces away without counterattack. CNS for it's enemy stat inflation and invisible enemy spam. I really hope that I'll be able to enjoy this game, I REALLY REALLY DO! ;_; P3RL: I'm excited! Aside from getting rid of the jealousy thing, I do hope they make the Social Links and stats just generally easier to level up. More like how it is in P5, where anyone doing the game on the first time typically shouldn't have a problem ending the game with 10 maxed out Confidants without a guide, while in P3, you're lucky if you get 6-7 non-mandatory Social Links maxed out by endgame if you're playing blind. Metaphor: Looks cool. I don't like the grey-brown color palette, but could be a fun.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
VC annoys me for exactly the reasons you said, though I still got through 1 and 4 somehow. Devil Survivor, I started enjoying it a lot more once I got better at fusions. You need a different fusion logic to Persona or even mainline SMT, which can be hard to wrap your head around. But once you realize which racial traits are good and work well together (Kishin + Beast is a favourite of mine, it can let you move 3 times and attack twice) it gets a lot more fun. You do need to Macca grind a decent amount though. And both Devil Survivor games have hellish final bosses. P3RL so it's not confused with P5R. Nice, I might adopt that.
@spaghetticondo.m9116
@spaghetticondo.m9116 Жыл бұрын
Whats your opinion on femc not getting added i personally don't mind
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I don't mind either. I think she's a decent character in Q2, but I don't see her as an essential part of the P3 experience. If she WAS added, I'd prefer her to work like some of the female Avatars in newer Fire Emblem (or Pokemon protags): not affecting the main story beyond a change of pronouns.
@lostonessoul5154
@lostonessoul5154 Жыл бұрын
now my only question is this: considering they are most likely gonna change a LOT about P3 in order for it to match the same quality, if not better, than P5, Will you be playing Reloaded Mr. Klingy or are you gonna just...pass on it since you've done P3FES?
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I'm still deciding. Since I already did a massive series on FES I'm not sure, I'll probably do SOMETHING with it but I'm still thinking.
@lostonessoul5154
@lostonessoul5154 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy well if you want my opinion on it, since P3R is gonna be so different from the original, I say you make it a new let's play/walkthrough. With the joke of this being the Persona game WIThOUT Gary Stue.
@LightbladeRiulo
@LightbladeRiulo Жыл бұрын
Im willing to put money down on atlus doing (not a rerelease) but DLC of P3R where its The Answer and FeMC though that last one is just wishful thinking. Point being. Yeeeeesh why is it so difficult to have one complete package.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's definitely possible. But I don't think you need them for a full experience.
@andresalasthemessenger
@andresalasthemessenger Жыл бұрын
Persona 5 Tactica, Persona 3 Reload (Remake), & Metaphor Re Fantazio... 🤔 I see... (Blind from someone's channel in P3? At 11:45 - 12:45, .... Yikes.. 😶 Also at 12:45 - 13:22, Hope for the players to keep in mind. 🤨)
@TheJaredPunch
@TheJaredPunch Жыл бұрын
Metaphor looks interesting. Might consider it.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 Жыл бұрын
For me Persona 3 reload, it is cool to see persona 3 have that modern atlus style i like in persona 5, catherine, smt 5, etc. However it is annoying that FeMc and the answer wouldn't be reload until maybe DLC. For the voice actors, I'm find with it being new as long as their good. although even if it good, it will take a while to get used to. (persona 3 spoilers) I admit FeMC did add issue with some of her new soical link as you can cheap Sinjiro's death and the whole thing with Ken(gross). About Michelle Ruff's performance on yuraki, in the female route, she does sound nicer, I think it could to better voice direction or/and she dealing with a girl that isn't mitsuru . persona tactics: Shame it looks like yoshizawa isn't going to be in the base game, I get akechi for "reasons", but unlike strikers tactics is made after royal. Like you in a way, I'm glad Akechi not going to be in the base game because i'm kinda sick of akechi and think the third semester is best way for akechi to go on a high note. Also place your bets on the new character twist(x2 for facing them, x3 for them being a spirit, 4x for them being dead inside). I will said for metaphor, I hope there no alignment where it becomes "less of 2 evils". Also agree I'm getting annoyed on bad faith deconstructing because it the new hip and cool thing to do as decreased the value of good deconstructing and making fandom dicussion more toxic
@nikoladedic6623
@nikoladedic6623 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, my favourite game out of these 3 is Tactica. Reload keeps dropping news that I don't like and Metaphor isn't interesting. 4:07 Well, Yoshizawa might appear in secret capacity. I am not holding my breath for Akechi though. 4:37 Seriously? They could be DLC? 14:44 I am more mad they are dropping Portable additions. Minako's version of the story would have been interesting to see in proper 3D, especially with its additions. Honestly, one of the best things they did was add in the trip to Inaba, connecting the two settings better and being a nice foreshadowing. In fact, imagine the impossible dream of it being expanded so that we could explore in back in 2009. 17:32 Yeah, as soon as I saw the game, I thought it was basically Pesrona/SMT crossover. There is one hope that I realized based on current circumstances. Between EQ remaster and Tactica release, I wonder if we will see a remaster of Q duology. If so, finally have Q2 dubbed with the new cast.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised at how few people here are talking about/interested in Metaphor. I guess we don't know a lot yet? But I'm personally really excited.
@user-ln4so5fp5r
@user-ln4so5fp5r Жыл бұрын
The other two games look great. Especially "Metaphor Re Fantazio". I'm looking forward to them. But the Persona 3 remake... Here's the thing that sucks. Personally, I think the Femc Route is superior. And it boils down to 2 things: First, She has better social links, and with the actual party members! Seconed, She's a female, thus she's not getting abused. Thankfully, not a slap to the face for no reason, and not hot springs misunderstanding. I prefered the female route because of these reasons. And since I palyed the OG P3, I already saw all of the animated cutscenes. I always wanted the option of playing a female in Persona. It just sounds so interesting. Oh well. Hope is not lost on me just yet. Maybe she will be added. I really hope that she will...
@danielm.5078
@danielm.5078 Жыл бұрын
7:10 Funnily, based on some tweets made by Suzie Yeung the Navigation lines at least might still be memetastic. 12:56 For all we know, they could still keep the always-romance deal and jealousy systems. 18:28 We even have a quote from last month that Game of Thrones was a required reference material for FFXVI's dev team. As for Refantasio itself, I've gone from being hyped that it's a new Atlus IP to disappointed that it looks like all of Persona's baggage is attached to it to acceptance and just hoping it's different enough that I might be able to actually play it for the gameplay first and that character and party dynamics aren't stilted by the presence of a silent self-insert. There's a lot of potential there, I just hope it's different enough to justify being a new IP.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
7:10 Hopefully for the right reasons? I just hope "it has multiple weaknesses" is back. 12:56 PLEASE DON'T. Forget no Answer, FeMC or overpriced DLC. THAT would be my deal-breaker. 18:28 ...Oh no. It's a little weird it's a new IP and not a spinoff when it's so clearly Persona-alike. But they could pull a fast one and have it be a stealth prequel.
@danielm.5078
@danielm.5078 Жыл бұрын
7:10 Probably as an homage; either that or she was REALLY waiting to QRT some Fuuka memes. 18:28 FFXVI is such an oxymoron to me. I respect Yoshida's stated creative goals and hope he pulls them off and yet he's also revealed some-- not quite Inafune levels but a very pronounced Westernization slant to his views on things (believes XVI will be able to bring FF back into the mainstream and that the franchise has floundered and considers "JRPG" to be an insult and wants to divorce FF from that label). I want to see Japanese devs create RPGs that are actually mature in their substance and handling of characters and themes. But you can do all that without having it be a gritty low-fantasy and literally throwing GoT at your dev team as the main example of the vibes you want to capture. (There's still a lot of craziness and flashiness to it, but if anything that now heavily contrasts with the aesthetics and world.) The game itself is also flagging in preorders in Japan, under 20% of FFXV's and FFVIIR's. It's just so... weird, creatively, and really just as fitting of SE as XV.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
18:28 I'd getting pretty tired of those "JPRGs should stop being JRPGs" developers, that attitude is very early 2010's and the stigma pretty much died in the west with Xenoblade and Persona 5 so it's an outdated attitude. You've even got games like Undertale, which is basically a JRPG made by an American. (Sure it was deconstructive, but not in a "the genre sucks" way, more just showing how disturbing level grinding looks in a world where monsters are fully sapient. Or to put it more succinctly: it deconstructs PLAYER HABITS rather than anything inherently JRPG)
@PriestDaSensei
@PriestDaSensei Жыл бұрын
One thing atlus fans don’t understand is that not every atlus game is persona😂😂all megaten games are similar because THEY ARE MADE BY THE SAME PEOPLE 😂so re:fantasy isn’t like persona it’s just made by the same developers so yea there is gonna be similarities
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. BUT in this case, Re:Fantazio has a calander system, characters fighting with summons, social stats, and a bonding mechanic. It's for THESE reasons that I say it's Persona influenced. For example, Tokyo Mirage Sessions I don't think is very Persona at all. Its got far more in common with Digital Devil Saga and Strange Journey. The Persona influence in Re:Fantazio is a lot more obvious.
@Metal6078
@Metal6078 Жыл бұрын
While Persona 5 Tactica doesn`t really impress me, I will withhold judgement until I see more of it in action. Artstyle is meh, new Lyn song is a absolute bop though. The P5 timeline placement is interesting though, hope it means we will get to see different sides of the PTs (though I highly doubt it). Persona 3 Reload is a mixed bag. On one hand, the graphics and artstyle look amazing andI like the idea of SL characters getting events to interact more with non-MC characters. On the other hand, I am not that excited for a remake of a game I haven`t even played myself. Re Fantazio looks interesting, might give it a shot. Edit: Having reread some of trailer lines, I can see where the idea of it being a sucky medieval fantasy world comes from. However, since I enjoyed Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon (the former more so than the latter), it isn`t a immediate red flag for me. It will depend on how it is handled at the end of the day.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I love the new Lyn song too. But overall I'm hyped. Though I'm not expecting many deep character moments.
@galladeforce
@galladeforce Жыл бұрын
Warning Long Comment, , so long I will separate Reload and everything else into separate comments, also minor spoiler warning for Persona 3 I personally don’t like the term “deserved” In regards to something from the past getting content, while partially based on my experience when that term is said , but when it does it either tends to be used in extremism with it meaning that something should get attention over something else because it’s not been given anything, despite the fact that while I don’t think lesser known things don’t deserve attention companies are as a whole a business and should give attention to something already very successful, or it’s used to say that something that is less well known or well liked shouldn’t be getting content over something else like in Smash Discourse. When it can have some value and acting like you have to be successful to get something a remake. Also in regards to me talking about Persona 3 Reload, a lot of them relate to what you say especially or builds on it since when I talked to a friend a day or two after the leak I brought up a lot of the same things While I do somewhat agree with you about the fact that there would be recasts anyway, however the only recast which would be new to Reload would be Junpei, since while Fuuka and Ken’s original voice acting aren’t great they’re gotten performers who have both been received better and have been voicing them during the 2010’s in Wendee Lee and Cindy Robinson. So while new voice acting would have been inevitable. And while I wouldn’t say I’m happy with the recasting, I a a fans of a majority of their main actors I’m not completely against these people, I’ve literally never heard of either Shinjiro or Ken’s and looking at Behind the Voice Actors both only have two pervious roles to their name. But for the others, what I’ve heard them in I’ve tended to like, even if for example I’m not a big fan of the character as is the case with Allegra Clark as Dorothea, and with Fun fact with Heather Gonzalez, I once created a Fire Emblem themed Person idea which had Persona characters using Tokyo Mirage Sessions style Personas who also used the skillsets from the games beforehand, Tellius was theme the Persona 3 focus and Elincia, one of the roles she has was the one who took Yukari’s moveset, and talking about her being Elincia, literally everything I’ve heard her in, Trails of Cold Steel IV and Fire Emblem Heroes is her being a recast, And talking about casting, I can easily imagine Fogado’s voice coming out of Junpei’s mouth and I don’t know why, Also something interesting, while I wouldn’t exactly call myself an OG fan of his, since I don’t remember becoming a strong fan of his work but as it does turn out I have been aware of him since his debut in 2008 as Alan Albright from Ben 10 Alien Force, after which it doesn’t appear he got a new voice role in 8 years, since everything on Behind the Voice Actor at the bottom of the page has him playing characters who I know show up later, like Charlotte Raisin from One Piece, who debuted in the manga in 2016, no matter both the anime and its English dub which would come later or Young Justice Season 3, which debuted in 2019. Everything before 2016 is him voicing his Ben 10 character. Something funny is that when it comes to Persona 3 vs Persona 4’a amount of recasts in the main party, Persona 3 went from having less recasts, since for Persona 3 only the three Y’s, Yu, Yosuke and Yukiko haven’t been recast ever, while Persona 3 only had Fuuka and Ken of the main party, and now Persona 3 had had every party member recasted at least once. So in regards to the No FES content, while I do have something to add the basis idea, that the amount of really important story content from FES is relatively minimal, and that most stuff from it is something that would be changed anyway for entirely separate reasons, I looked it up and Yukari’s second weapon from the shop isn’t a pun on Rainbow and I did notice Silky, so we know that they are making minor changes. And with Silky, while it can imply new content, however based on context it might be a case of replacing something that would be harder to work with, the trailer if the seeming cut is too expediate the process for the trailer it shows that Apsara and Silky make Jack Frost, one of the possible Arcana combination that make a Magician Persona is Priestess and Lovers, and Alp is an early game Lovers Persona who has no modern 3D model in an Atlus RPG since she isn’t in Persona 5 and Royal, SMt V or Soul Hackers 2, while Silky is ij all three and hence is easier to reuse. They could still be changing more and adding more And in regards to the Answer, while I don’t know enough about the social media discourse or know about any Persona focused forums that I could acsees, but it’s a very comtrivsrsail part of the game that some people don’t like that it even exists based on it’s start and what it does to the canon, never mind how the game okay is very contentious, while the contentiousness would meant that you would expect people to be divided on how much it’s a sense upsets them, rather than the idea of a remake not having every piece of content which is another discussion entirely. And in regards to it not being in, while admittedly the precedence of it being in another version it’s also something that isn’t as easy to implement in Reload, you need voice acting for esentually the entire main party and a few side characters like Officer Kurosawa, an entirely new party member and anything needed for them, new animations for Aigis, remaking the models for any unique Shadow in the mode and it’s original boss designs and remaking and updating the dungeon crawling, all for something known fo be contentious and a fair amount of ghe fanbase doesn’t like , the original developer wouldn’t have known its reception nd they had the advantage that it would have been an update to an already completed project, while here it’s extra development on top of the original. While like the voice acting I’m nit as disappointed in it gone as others and I would have would have liked to have see it remade, since It’s an interesting experience I would both like to play and see updated, but I can see why it would be excluded by Atlus. Since the Female Protagonist is a lot more well liked and hence I’m more confused about it not being here, because the extra work and time ranking everything associated with her would have had more appeal and payout
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
When I say "deserved", I meant that P2 is an older game that a lot of modern Persona fans want to play but it's VERY dated and feels like a completely different franchise. I'm sure OG P2 fans would be mad if it was remade closer to the modern style, but I also think it kinda needs that treatment?
@galladeforce
@galladeforce Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy I can see that happening at some point, especially the idea of updating the gameplay to be closer or modern Persona, while making Persona 2 accessible to people who want to play it could be done by doing what happened to Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden, porting both to all modem hardware, with either the remakes or the originals. But in terms of remaking them, I feel they do have active incentive to change aspects of it to become more modern, while you can maintain certain aspects of gameplay like Rumours to give it its own feel like every other modern Persona style game the fact that modern Persona is a lot bigger fanbase and hence potential customers both based on its ability to gain new players and returning fans. It’s admittedly similar to how Fire Emblem is designed in recent years, since a modern game like Three Houses sold a lot and an older game like Thracia 776 didn’t, hence when deforming the franchises future the former would be lot more lucrative to take specific aspects from compared to the latter, even though funnily Engage didn’t take as much from the latter as it could, it felt more similar to Fates personally.
@kingteddieP4
@kingteddieP4 Жыл бұрын
KZfaq not showing me this is BULL I have notifications on too
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I have no idea why that happened, you're a pretty regular commenter too.
@miharu807
@miharu807 Жыл бұрын
The new girl name is going be a problem in french... Bc "Elle" is the pronom for She/her...
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I saw somewhere that she might have a different name in English. We'll see.
@reddawn1873
@reddawn1873 Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess atlas is just going to make the answer and femc dlc
@Sunnernite
@Sunnernite Жыл бұрын
Im tired of P5 and ready for P6. P3Re will add FemC and the answer as dlc. Calling it now
@icebergmm
@icebergmm Жыл бұрын
The biggest question I have is how long will they be Microsoft exclusives?
@cartooncritic7045
@cartooncritic7045 Жыл бұрын
They will very likely not be exclusives at all. The P3P and P4G console ports were announced at the Microsoft show last year and within days we knew they'd be multiplatform.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
Like Cartoon Critic said, they're absolutory not going to be exclusives. The Persona ports were revealed Microsoft-first, then Switch releases were confirmed shortly after.
@cartooncritic7045
@cartooncritic7045 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Hell, part of the leaks for P3R included box arts for Switch, PS4, AND PS5, so I think it’s pretty safe to assume you won’t need an Xbox to play this game.
@YoshMaster
@YoshMaster Жыл бұрын
Is there even fart jokes in anynof the Mario+Rabbids games?? Honestly stopping to play those freaking AMAZING games just for that reason seems just as childish to me than what fart jokes are…
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I was also going through a really bad time when I started playing it. I ended up lending it to my brother in law and he liked it, so I might give it another chance one day.
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 Жыл бұрын
How can you straight up ignore that the Japanese cast for P3R is *not* replaced, as in, everyone ever just plays their Japanese games about Japanese highschoolers wiyh English voice acting? This is an issue I have with KZfaqrs in general. A lot of people play undubbed, mods for that are accessible, and newer repeases straight up include dual audio. If you are used to JP voices, they are the same, and extremely consistent along the entire franchise (only Igor is getting a recast in JP because the original VA has sadly passed away).
@galladeforce
@galladeforce Жыл бұрын
The Japanese voice acting is consistent, but it’s not really a major talking point in regards to the remake because it’s both kind of expected, keep in mind it’s not the first time these people have reprised their roles and people like Klingy don’t play the game in Japanese, so they are not going to bring it up as much, And this video is talking about and discussing major discourse in the community and his thoughts in regards ro that discussion of the game , the change of the English voice cast and the lack of Fes and Portable content, the Japanese voice cast is both something that wasn’t part of that discourse and not something he though to bring up, it happens, there are other aspects like the adding of cooking activities in the dorm, the heavy use of in engine cutscenes rather than anima cutscenes and how it’s only properly been revealed for X Box and PC so far that he didn’t comment on.
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 Жыл бұрын
@@galladeforce It doesn't matter that it's not a part of what twitter people talk about. What matters is that it's worth mentioning, as in, the original developer, P Studio, didn't intend a recast in the first place. Their view of the characters remains consistent, it's not one of those cases where a developer wants "a new vision" and changes the cast on purpose. It's the publisher deciding to cheap out or avoid controversy by doing a hard reset. It's an important context worth considering. And I don't know what kind of person the author of the video is, it popped up on my recommended list.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I understand your point, but it wasn't really me consciously ignoring that. I recorded these impressions the day after the trailers came out and I didn't know the Japanese cast was the same. I SUSPECTED it might be, but I was more focusing on my reactions to the recast. So now my thoughts are: English voice acting is a very different environment to Japan's. There's a lot of weird union stuff that stops VAs returning to roles or forces them to go uncredited if they do, and the industry in general treats dubbing as "boot camp" for new VAs and expects those who do well to "graduate" to western AAA games. Troy Baker was the first VA I noticed go through this, then it happened to Laura Bailey, Liam O'Brien, and many more. (Matthew Mercer is one of the few who seems to come back for old roles often) My guess is dubbed JRPGs don't pay as well as AAA western studios and so I don't blame VAs for moving on if that's the case, though it's sad for people who enjoy JRPGs. You mention the controversy, but I actually suspect Liam O'Brien might be the real issue. He's busy with Critical Role now and has probably "graduated" from the market in the way most other VAs of his era have. They'd have a hard time getting him back and as I said here, I'd rather have a full recast than MOST of the old VAs back but one/two missing.
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 Жыл бұрын
@@BigKlingy Your thoughts are mostly on point: dubbing in English is considered a starting ground/a place where some which are not talented enough to do live action go, while in Japan it *is* an ending point and the peak of one's career. As well as Japanese fans tend to get attached to a voice actor and their performance of a character, hence big franchises like Persona won't usually recast unless there's a good reason (like the original property being too old to the point of most old VAs being out of business; or the aforementioned new vision, like in Tsukihime or Muv-Luv). This is kind of the reason why I tend to never ever go dubbed (combined with not wanting to have an extra layer between me and the authors' vision). And I believe there's a lot of people like myself, and why this is worth mentioning.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
@@lemonov3031 Aren't most VAs in Japan also idols though? And Japanese idols tend to be considered amateur performers who eventually "graduate" to better things. I don't fully understand the Japanese voice acting industry, but I also feel like some fans put them on too high of a pedestal. I always watch anime subbed, with a few rare exceptions, but I'm more okay with game dubs because they usually don't have to change lines to match lip-flaps.
@MongoIndyleo
@MongoIndyleo Жыл бұрын
More P3 thoughts; I can't see you not playing the game on the channel. I think there's a solid shot of you doing one of your normal 100% playthroughs but I think it's maybe a little more likely that you do something a little bit different in it. Maybe blind? Maybe a gimmick playthrough? Could be anything!
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what I'll do with it, actually. Since it's possible I'll do something with P5T since it's kinda made for me, and Re:Fantazio also sounds enjoyable.
@MongoIndyleo
@MongoIndyleo Жыл бұрын
My concerns with P3R (wow, I'm sure it's a coincidence they chose R) are 2 fold. The first being no Vic Mignagna as Junpei. Look I love the original cast but I could see other people playing the other characters. But Junpei? Mignonga *is* that role. He carried half of the game VA quality with just himself. I understand why he isn't coming back but I'm sorry there's no way Junpei's OVA is going to be even close to topped. The second one is just the lack of male party member supports. I actually really like Kenji. I want his Link to be in the game. I just don't want him to be in game at the expense of Junpei's Link.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Жыл бұрын
It's weird there being two Persona games with R initials. While I do agree than Junpei's original performance was amazing, after finding out his new VA was Fogado in Fire Emblem Engage I'm optimistic, since he's a pretty similar character to Junpei.
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