Hello! Thank you very much for the video. Would you be willing to share some resources that made you consider supra over infra? I've been wrestling with the issue for years, and I haven't found either definitively compelling over the other. I know you mentioned the necessity of the Incarnation, apart from sin, but I'd appreciate if you have anywhere to find in-depth discussion. Thank you!

I'd like to see my Mom again. *violin plays*

Look up Srila Prabhupada, he dismantled Augustine’s new philosophy thoroughly and clearly. The section is in the book Dialectic Spiritualism, highly recommend to anyone serious about philosophy.

Hey Redeemed Zoomer, why do your videos always get dislike-bombed? Your content is really good and it doesn't make sense for a 2:1 dislike ratio to consistently happen.

@@dvd1989 No Christ no creation. Yes He is necessary for any possible world.

No pin I guess not

​@@Nguyenzander pin

​@@Nguyenzandertbf, his pin is actually useful and not just spam.

@@Antic_MC yeah

@@Nguyenzander 🙂

Is there a difference? :P

@@ninjason57nice Calvinism 😇 mean Calvinism 😈

God created people knowing they would go to Hell no matter what calvinism versus God created people knowing they would go to Hell no matter what calvinism

He's a Calvanist?

@@mrn0b0dy46 he is

Overrated. Tons of Greek philosophy in his stuff.

@@KnightFel which is why he is good, he helped meld science and religion.

It's his personal opinion, you can have yours. The list isn't even trying to be objective. (read this with a calm and slightly upbeat voice)

He did believe in witches tho.

Well, it's from a Presbyterian perspective. I'm Catholic, but I wouldn't expect a Pentacostal to make a video about his top favorite pastors and put any Catholic priests on it.

he was a christian platonist therefore having a gnostic side of himself

Great popularizer of Christian writing!

L for not converting to Catholicism despite Tolkien asking him to do it

Agree, he was a fantastic writer and lay theologian who was a brilliant wordsmith.

​@@olekcholewa8171He had an ulsterior motive for not becoming a catholic

Based except bucer was half Lutheran half Calvinist

Well, Aristotle is basically a deist and atheist at the same time, believing in an impersonal and non-living "God"...but Catholicism wouldn't exist without him and his work...catholicism is not much more than an interpretation of a reconciliation of Aristotelian philosophy and Christianity, which is interesting since Aristotle is more of an egoist that admires the noble over the base/slave, whereas Catholic doctrine is supposed to be more family oriented and promote more base/slave values.

@hordechess7629 In what way was aristotle an atheist at all? His first mover has nothing to do with atheism, and deeper than that he assumes a telos for every existent thing based on the infinite reason and self contemplation of the first mover, ie, he doesn’t think the creator of the universe isn’t invested in reality because it imparts a purpose and natural end for each thing in reality- he doesn’t have the sort of mechanical causal view on physics a deist would, his first mover is active and organisational. Also your view on his ethics is blatantly nietzschean and nothing to do with the guy himself.

Not William Lane Craig the monothelitist heretic

Gilbert Lumoindong 🤣

@@bun197 Honestly, I think you are right and I stand corrected...After all, many Theologians (like Aquinas, Maimonides, Al-Farabi) took the "first cause" idea really seriously and based on that point of view, carried on Aristotle's work. Thank you for enlightening me! :) Still though I think Aristotle admires the noble over the base and yes I am going off Nietzschean terminology here. There are four tenants of Aristotelian Naturalism - 1. Species have characteristic ways of life, 2. Some ways of life are better for survival and reproduction than others, 3. Survivability is an intrinsic good, 4. Intrinsic goods are desirable so characteristic ways that promote survivability (also the species' arete) is the most fulfilling life ... This is contrary to many moral tenants in catholicism and maybe like 80% as egoist as Nietzschean master morality...So overall I think you are right on the first point about Aristotle's work not needing to be deduced to any atheism, but I still think Aristotelian ethics endorses the noble by far more than the base

Good to see a Cappadocian Father. People don’t seem to realise these guys defined our Trinitarian theology

Yeah, this guy's talking nonsense. His writing is generally acknowledged to be quite extraordinary, as here described, "Cependant, même sur la base des seuls Instituts français de 1541, Calvin se place au premier rang des prosateurs français. t Les Instituts de Calvin, dit M. Ferdinand Brunetière,^ | est « un des grands livres de la prose française, et le premier, en ce qui concerne du temps, dont on peut dire que les proportions, la disposition et la construction sont monumentales ; en un mot, c'est « le premier de nos livres que l'on puisse appeler classique ». Cette position elle atteint, suggère-t-il, en vertu de la grandeur de sa conception, de la dignité de son plan, de l'unité de son traitement, de la enchaînement étroit de sa pensée, de sa grâce rhétorique, de la la gravité soutenue de son style, s'élevant même à la majesté, et la pureté de son langage. Pour m'attarder uniquement sur ce dernier qualité, dans la pureté de son style français, Calvin était bien en avance sur son âge. Latiniste du goût le plus sévère, au lieu de transposer son latin dans son français, comme le faisaient la plupart des écrivains. de l'époque, il a conservé la pureté de son goût."

Yeah, I've read it in the Latin and it is very clear and fluent, especially compared to Luther.

Vous avez raison.

He was one of the best writers to pen anything theologically , Samuel Rutherford and Calvin both , brilliant brilliant minds with beautiful way of explanation and wording

Nice meme. You forgot to include Finney and Steven Anderson

Based

Pope Alexander VI is based and Borgia-pilled.

Why is Bellarmine on the same category as a Borgia??? Lmao

Rest In Peace Harambe. You deserved better. Gone but not forgotten. I can't wait to see you in heaven, my friend.

I'm curious to know his opinions on Craig

He probably thinks he is a trinitarian heretic.

@@joshuajohansen1210 what

Redeemed Zoomer loves pointing out anyone who disagrees with an early church council. I think WLC has been acused of Apollinarianism.

@@joshuajohansen1210 Was he? I never saw him saying anything Apollinarian.

Based profile pic.

What, you didn't see him give Solo Sikoa the Attitude Adjustment on Sunday?

Shame!! Everyone already knows that by now!

it's coming up!

​@@redeemedzoomer6053Wait, you changed your view? Are you now a mean calvinist or a nice calvinist??

@@redeemedzoomer6053 Yay, thank you

Susan?

Susan who?

Not every pastor is on the list, only some of the MEDIEVAL reformed scholastics

@@niccolopaganini1782 christan mario reference if you know you know

@@user-tb5sq6jm2yPastor Jimbob? Who created the only true church of Christ just 7 years ago?

I don't think it'll happen, but if someone is interested in learning why I think this church is the truth you can always read the Book Of Mormon. If you are not willing to, there's a book called "The Day of Defense" (of which I have an epub to share) that states how the Book of Mormon and the religion itself are true using only the Bible.

@@angelmigueliopezperez8853 use your zeal to worship the true God. Read the Nicene Creed if you want to know who the true God is. God bless you

My Brother, there is a fundamental problem with LDS, Authority, if the bible its true, we know that we have some kind of authority right? The Elders and the Deacons, because we want to protect our Christian faith there are necesary, then in the bible says that the Holy Ghost will guide its Church and that dont hear if they give you another Gospel, even if its an angel. Then how can I trust Joseph Smith? 1800 years latter to Christ we have Someone that stated that he is a Prophet, that had 40 wifes, that was racist, that started wars, and made ita own bible, how can I trust this man, and not the Church that has been there for 1800 years prior to Smith, and to someone that says everything about the church, including Heaven and The trinity its fallse, giving that the bibke its truth? God loves you Brother, search for Truth and fight for it and for God

@@juandavidguarnizogutierrez4566 @juandavidguarnizogutierrez4566 First of all, thanks for being respectfull overall, but the unic one of the accusations you made that does have kind of sense is the fact that he had 40 wives because indeed he had as many and there's proof of it, but not for all the other anti-mormonism stuff you said. He wasn't racist, he didn't start any war, he didn't made his own Bible but a book that testifies how the Bible and Christ are true adding also more of the word of God that wasn't delivered to any of the prophets that lived before him. He was indeed a prophet and, if you follow what the Bible says about being a prophet, he fulfill all the requirements for being one EVEN dying for the cause of the gospel of the Lord. None of the words he said were against any of the things in the Bible. Also, we have all the authorities AND the keys of the restored gospel on Earth which are the priesthoods, the main difference between the Church of Jesuschrist of the Latter-days Saints and any other church in the world. In fact, is the unic church centered in Jesus that has His name in it. I testify that this church is true and I'm completely willing to stand and defend it if necessary. Always with respect. God bless you too.

@@AgnusDeiGloria respectfully, I've read it before and I'm completely sure we believe in the same almighty God, but not in the same way. And, why do I think that I'm in the right? Not only because of my personal experience, but because of how harmonious the Bible and the Book Of Mormon are. Again, you're more than invited to read the Book of Mormon if you're WILLING TO LEARN from it. I'm sure if you do so, the Holy Ghost will testify of it. If you're not willing to learn and just to show how "you are right and I am not" then you should probably read "the day of defense" first. Not made by the Church, but an useful tool when it comes to talk with people from other religions trying to destroy our faith. Reiterating the respect, God bless you.

He's still my favorite modern Orthodox theologian.

Anyone who understood the essence of progressivism could have guessed its fruits, it's actually pretty predictable

Which book did he predict

He’s overrated

@@redeemedzoomer6053 that’s like saying Vermigli is overrated lol. His works weren’t even available to us until about 15 years ago.

@@bryanbaez4412Straw man argument

TheGerkuman, can you try posting your comment again? I can see part of it in my notifications, but not all of it. It is not all showing up in the comments section itself for some reason.

Not quite. Read “Paul and his recent interpreters.” There is a kinship with NPP but he is his own man and he is great.

he's a heretic isn't he?

@@redeemedzoomer6053 Not sure if you'd consider him one or not-- heavily influenced by Aquinas and Augustine, but kinda put a Heideggerian spin on it all I think. God as the ground of Being, etc. I'm sure there's more nuance there, but I'm fairly certain he was generally a Lutheran existentialist.

I was going to say Sproul would be pretty high on my list. He was a brilliant theologian but could explain the why of it all to anyone clearly and relate it all back to how he’s getting this info from the Bible by interpreting the Bible, instead of trying to interpret things on his own.

Gigachad list, don’t forget Spurgeon

Put in BB Warfield too.

The “I’m not like other girls” comment

Olaf Latzel is super based…

Can I have a soft copy, please?

And Origen followers: ....Evagriys Ponticus ...Saint John Cassianus ...Saint Maxinus the Confessor.

Er....I would have precautions with Origen.

@@jorgelopez-pr6dr I agree. Origen was very passionate about the Bible, but I think his main error was that he tended to make big "reaches" sometimes. I mainly appreciate him for his scholarship, and I consider him a useful source for source criticism and hermeneutics. I don't agree with his doctrine of the pre-existence of souls, and the other stuff, but the Church was a bit too unfair on him.

@@user-yh6tt2nu4p In don't discuss his importance in the history of apologetics and Christianity. In fact , I have a book of selection of his writings . I was not thinking only in the preexistence of the soul , which, if I am not mistaken , comes from Pythagoras but also of his typology sometimes far fetched and above all, the famous apocatastasis , that is , universalism. He himself said that he was misunderstood about that, but many people believe in it. In fact, there is a sort of universalism in these days and there are theologians that support it

100% agree

Most of them were preachers though, right? Still great though. I would like to have met Spurgeon.

JC Ryle. A gift to the believers.

Haha I'm guessing you're from India/Iran?

So holy art thou

Calvin did not kill Servetus, that is slander. And calling yourself a calvinist is not making him an idol you fool.

Ah yes the protestent that denied the Trinity making him a heritic that discoverd gravity, God bless you brother in Christ and have an exalent day

main difference is that St. Thomas holds that salvation can be rejected by grave sin which is why he views reprobation as privation of grace which leads to falling into grave sin, final impenitence, and due to those sins he then judges the person worthy of damnation

It would still just be The Institutes.

It is the same, imo. Read of Aquinas wrote in his summa theologiae question 23, article 3 (Whether God reprobates any man?) about reprobation, which is one of the points Catholics often claim that it is different: "I answer that, God does reprobate some. For it was said above (Article 1) that predestination is a part of providence. To providence, however, it belongs to permit certain defects in those things which are subject to providence, as was said above (I:22:2). Thus, as men are ordained to eternal life through the providence of God, it likewise is part of that providence to permit some to fall away from that end; this is called reprobation. Thus, as predestination is a part of providence, in regard to those ordained to eternal salvation, so reprobation is a part of providence in regard to those who turn aside from that end. Hence reprobation implies not only foreknowledge, but also something more, as does providence, as was said above (I:22:1). Therefore, as predestination includes the will to confer grace and glory; so also reprobation includes the will to permit a person to fall into sin, and to impose the punishment of damnation on account of that sin." "Objection 1. It seems that God reprobates no man. For nobody reprobates what he loves. But God loves every man, according to (Wisdom 11:25): "Thou lovest all things that are, and Thou hatest none of the things Thou hast made." Therefore God reprobates no man. Reply to Objection 1. God loves all men and all creatures, inasmuch as He wishes them all some good; but He does not wish every good to them all. So far, therefore, as He does not wish this particular good-namely, eternal life-He is said to hate or reprobated them."

@@pedroguimaraes6094 I think there's a massive difference otherwise Calvin's would not go against the Catholic belief of free will. For example, Calvin's believe if a child is raped that is God's doing, God made that happen for a greater purpose, I cannot believe that, it's evil.

​@@leoashura8086 So we're not talking about predestination, we're talking more about providence. We would not say this is "Gods doing" because we do not believe that God forces human beings to sin. See what the Wesminster Confession of Faith says in chapter 3, which is what we Reformed believe: "1. God from all eternity did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass;a yet so as thereby neither is God the author of sin,b nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures, nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.c" Calvin's understanding of providence did not necessarily mean that God directly caused or intended specific acts of evil, such as rape. Instead, Calvin believed that God's sovereignty extended over all events, including those that humans might consider evil or tragic. God did not "make" the man to rape the child, but this happened according to His providence in some way in a way we don't understand but we trust him. Thats how every Christian implicitly live his life tbh.

Ive never seen cringee Catholic memes and the only protestent memes that i saw are from the video from Trent Horn reacted to those cringee protestent memes but i don't know if theire cringe(to me at least) God bless you brother in Christ and may you have an exalent day!

It shocked me too.

What are your concerns with the New Perspective?

@@matOpera from my limited understanding, it fundamentally changes one’s view on justification and how grace is apart from works. I believe the NPP basically says that Paul’s statement of “one is justified apart from works of the law” in Romans 3:28 only refers to just Jewish covenant markers like circumcision, so it changes what many interpret this passage to mean that justification is apart from works entirely, which could be a bit problematic for those who hold to the “old perspective”

@@matOperait denies the gospel. NPP is terrifying. No peace with God through Jesus Christ (Romans 5:1)

So its closer to RC and EO? That's nice

Italian Protestant?

@@natanaelmedina2189 Yes

@@ixxdiego love it, its kinda sad how the protestants and reformers in hispanic and in italian traditions had to flee their own countries from prosecutions...

@@natanaelmedina2189not sad at all…they were persecutors too.

@@icxcnika7722 the catholics started the persecutions, but dont like being pushed back right?

Newadvent.