interesting, could you share us some examples?

I'm also interested in how a professional musician views these songs. They are so unique

@@celstymonoss I'm mostly thinking of Rachmanninov's All-Night Vigil Service!

@@Mousy677 You have no idea how happy that makes me as both a Rachmanninov _and_ EXA_PICO fanboy.

@@Mousy677 i heard someone mentioned befored that this was inspired by Rachmanninov. That makes me happy!

I discover Akiko shikata from the first one lol she do one " singing" voice in each of the 3 game (Misha in the first, cloche in the second ans saki in the third so yes it's her here)!

"I know this is a late comment..." MEANWHILE 10 YEARS LATER... *me reading the comment XD*

I would also like to add to check artists like kaoling (Kaori Ohkoshi), and the ground Alstroemeria/WAVE (Morrigan and Lily's group)

Part of the lyrics is also in Ar Ciela, which has nothing in common with Hymmnos when it comes to structure or pronunciation.

+AusSP Yes. they have roots and structure from latin, Sanskrit, um.... japanese and i forget the last language. they melded these into a language that can be sung. they use emotional sound to describe tone. like when we in english make a strong remark or a question by inflecting the words.

I think you are confusing Hymmnos with Carmena Foreluna and Ar Ciela, and you don't know how these two languages work. They have absolutely nothing in common with the Standard Hymmnos grammar, as they don't have a set vocabulary and instead give each letter a specific meaning, with letter combinations translating into whole phrases. Ar Ciela goes even farther due to the fact that the meanings for its letters depend on the frequency used in their pronunciation, and anyway, it's unusable by humans and Reyvateils because they can only hear and emit sounds of a frequency band up to 20000 KHz, when Ar Ciela can reach up to the 600000 KHz band.

+aquagon_drag .... oh i'm sorry LADY SHURELIA. How silly of me. when you graduate from Hymnos school and can teach it... lemme know. or at least when you can compose something on this scale.

+alus nova And lemme know when you can read who is the one who made the translations for the songs and wrote the English grammar guides and dictionaries for all the languages from the universe of these games. You obviously haven't realized it at all. Plus, you getting offended over getting a misconception corrected speaks very negatively about you as a person.

Maybe because " akiko shikata"?lol

The bass is addictive... The composer is an absolute genius...

Akiko Shikata

I hope you get the chance to play these gems!

@@vDorgengoa So far, these games are only available on the PS2-PS3 respectably, so I highky doubt it. At least I can play Ar No Surge on the PS Vita.

@@faidou9954 I recently bought that and its currently unopened in my room. I've played the ps2 (1 & 2). And 3 on the ps3. I enjoyed them quite a bit (never got to finish 2 because of a glitch). There is a current rumor that the PS5 may support backplay as far back as the ps1. Slim chance but the percentage isn't zero....

looks like surge concerto dx will come to switch (switch/ps4 my guess, tho need to change something within ciel nosurge), hopefully COMPLETE in the west this time:/ ar tonelico trilogy probably has the same problem like xenosaga... gust is with kt, banpresto with bamco; bamco probably has something to say within their rights for a re-release :(

@@diagtot8310 Funny, I was just listening to EXShpere and I got this piece of news.

To the powerful wish of your hateful mind, I want to strongly convey the power of compassion, give me power to fulfill my strong wish to change selfish love, I am always wishing for light (lol I tried)

^ when you are creating a conlang and too lazy to make a lexicon for it

I'd say the Hymmnos Concerts draw more from progressive rock with a more modern flair. A lot of parallels can be drawn to Magma (constructed language, complicated arrangements, chorus), but the two only sound similarly on particular songs; Magma's too far in the past to be much more than an inspiration.

.......yes.

why do I read in krelin's voice

Some of it is Japanese, the rest is Hymmnos, a language made specifically for the Ar Tonelico game series

It's Hymmnos

orso pitt Hymnos language, Ar Ciela dialect.

is Surge Concerto the second one?? my Hymmnos knowledge is pretty rusty.

Ar Ciela is an entirely separate language. Also, in this case is Standard Hymmnos with Carmena Foreluna.

We're up to 4 of the 5 games now. So your surprise is warranted. the 4th title Ciel nosurge was (before this October's complete Offline release) an episodic, almost entirely online title that had no chance of making it to localization. That we got Ar nosurge (5) without it, since there's actually data transfer between the two, was rather insulting.

@@michaelbieniewicz-valada4957 Ar Tonelico 1,2,3 Ar Nosurge.... and?

@@vDorgengoa, Ciel Nosuruge before ar Nosuruge.

@@AlanTalker Oh, thanks lol. I was still searching.

@@vDorgengoa my pleasure, Michael Bieniewicz explain what happened with this game in his first answer. 😊

Shin Eris or , do what i did to sing fast japanese songs , make very fast breathing breaks (if you manage to breathe in enough Air in just one quick Gasp like "hah" like Sound it should be fast enough

Minene Uryuu922 (previously deaththekid922) 2:24 at the "ra" for example you have enough time for a short breathe

Well, Shikata Akiko does the vocals. Knowing her about 200 individual voice recordings are inside this 1 song. So no, I think you need a second or third person for the vocals if you want to do this.

Minene Uryuu922 I PC Masterrace I

The 200 tracks aren't because of the breathing room or lack thereof but because there are simultaeneous vocals in the song. All over the place.

Depends on on the game, Ar Tonelico 1 was for the most part generic, Ar Tonelico 2 was really good, hell I'd go so far as to say one of the best JRPG's on the PS2, Ar Tonelico Qoga was shit, (Really a shame because IMO Ar Tonelico Qoga had the best soundtrack of the series) And Ar No Surge was pretty good.

ThePsychoGamer 1 wasn't generic and 3 wasn't shit.

***** THANK YOU, 3 was very good in imo : ) I like Saki, after all, 3 to me was really what a JRPG was! XD

***** I wouldn't say 3 was shit, but it definitely pales in comparison to 2. 2 was just too good - the only game in the series that I have beaten every route. 3's battle system was boring, story was meh, and didn't have a satisfying ending to bring the series to the end. 3 had a good soundtrack, but I really like the soundtrack from Ar Nosurge also. Ciel Nosurge is pretty good too, but I wonder why they don't brother bringing the offline version over...

kidaf I beg to disagree: while I concur that 3's battle system wasn't good due to lacking in execution, the ending was very well done and shows that everyone from it and from the previous two games will have a chance for a happy future, and the story was pretty good too, even if it doesn't quite reach the same heights the stories for AT2 and Ar nosurge did. And comparing it to AT2 is kinda a disservice to it, as expecting a sequel to be greater than its predecessors is sure to end up in disappointment As for Ciel nosurge, I'm playing through it right now, and unfortunately the game is too niche for this side of the ocean: when you're not interacting with Ion for synthesizing items, dating her or merely watching over her as she does her daily routine, you're making and customizing Sharls, making them repair broken memory points, and watching the VN sequences that are the restored memories. Plus, every single line in the interaction and VN segments is voiced, and the game has an amount of text capable of putting both Ar nosurge and AT2 to shame. And while it'd be good to have the first part of the Surge Concerto story available in English, it still defeats the purpose to not have a server set up here because the SekaiLink can't be performed without it: synchronizing the Micro Quasar's state, and sending over the plugins and story progress to change Ion's dialogues still require a connection to Gust's servers in Offline. And since the connection functions were already removed from Ar nosurge PS3, we're ultimately still screwed on that front.

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