Inaitwa International City ati😂

@@filbao8113 @Filbao 😅 Such a joke man. Nairobi can be compared to Kampala, Kinshasa and the likes. Vloggers will be out here giving a false narrative showing us videos of express way year in, year out calling it Dubai and nothing beyond that. Local authorities need to up their game. It's time the City became an international city it purports to be. There is no international when we have nyanyas being sold in the middle of archives and Moi Av 🤦🏾.

@@BensonNyasae mmi nimetembew Europe let me tell u bado tunangangana😆

@@filbao8113 Hahah. That's great. You are so privileged. I wish our leaders could visit such places and import whatever knowledge they acquire from Europe, North America and Asia (Tokyo, Seoul, Singapore) into running Kenyan affairs. Imagine 2023, so many years after independence we still don't have a single metro line etc in Kenya🙄. Shameful 😅.

@@BensonNyasae kabisaa

The population in 80s is not same as 2023... Where do you want others to live...

@@LK-cb6ih Kitengela n Rongai,lots of plots of land in this satellite areas.If u have money then go buy there n build ur own expansive house at a cheaper rate than this overpriced apartments in kileleshwas n kilimani's

Hustlers nation, sponsored by some corrupt somalias, now corruption is paying back somalia buildings everywhere

Hustlers nation, sponsored by some corrupt somalias, now corruption is paying back somalia buildings everywhere

I know exactly what you are talking about. I drive through those old neighborhoods in Kile and cant believe what it has become

Exactly.. we should NOT stop development but ensure upgrade of outdated plans and amenities.

You will turn Kenya into another japan.. Those small apartments.. Just stop having too many kids

They know what to do! People are greedy and corrupt! Nothing ever changes. Kenya in the 1970s was beautiful.

Advocate heavily for family planning throughout the country, throughout the world.

Who is responsible for the cost of these infrastructure ideas you suggest?

Its literally the most developed part of the country with easy accessibility of public transport and in my opinion beatiful scenary. If you want to look at grass go to shagz

​@@JoshOdhiambo How about Muthaiga

@@JoshOdhiambo it's beautiful to you but wait till the tsunamis hits like Corona pandemic lockdowns, that's when you ask the loads to shags 🤣🤣God was not a fool when He told pple to scatter but not to stay in conjected areas like this.

Your classism reflects by text from your comment. You think these areas were designated for white peeps you are effing wrong.

​@@rosemutinda3076 You said a bunch of nothing

Oh, yes, South C used to be a gem. Look at it today. Sigh.

Wilson airport aint a big thing its flooded with propellers three wheelers trotting aeroplanes unless it had turbine engine ones kama boeing or Airbus however nairobi is growing to metropolis city expanding with big population need for accommodation high rise is the only solution 🤣🤣

Nairobi to become another Lagos,

The way they are demolishing houses and erecting buildings, South C will be just like South B or even worse.

Somali thugs

The whole town is just a mess ..dirty city,cows & hawkers competing for space...e everybody sells anything anywhere in town...it's such a oity

With loud music and young people partying all night night next to a single family homes with kids! Imagine 900 people right next to you in a bed sitter and yourself in a house that you worked hard for and paid 100’s of millions? Kenya is a joke😂

How much do you think they will steal from that project?

I agree… Nairobi can’t be fixed… it’s beyond and still growing in a negative way.

​@@mozi3051imagine a new city with sane planning. Can't live like rats in Nairobi, not sustainable

@Ipeter t I agree. Unfortunately, we have brain-dead leaders.

That's where Konza n Tatu city come in.That was the original plan but with the mediocre leadership's in this country,it is slowly turning into a pipe dream.

It is a national problem. Even Kisumu's Milimani has been undergoing chaotic densification.

Kwanza uko n worse kabsa

True it's no longer the beautiful area, tall buildings 😢 no more beautiful flowers,trees etc .

This is what I was saying this morning. They should demolish them

Facts. Worse, these developments are funded by cartels, including terrorist cartels. This country is finished.

Make where you live attractive and they will come.. the government have no say in such

Will you invest in rural roads

@@nickngunjiri4282 The government of those rural areas have collected more than enough taxes since 1963 to spearhead development. Also, investors are attracted by things like tax incentives, a good criminal justice system, decent regulation and so on. This is just poor planning, to concentrate everything in 3 areas of Nairobi while the rest of the country gets almost nothing. Unsustainable.

Ur so right there,s too much land to develop but there just developing already devlopd areas!!!

Are you saying when population increase we should keep depleting our land with buildings? How about you stop having many kids

Nairobi is just highlighted due to the current extremity of the problem. But all of Kenya's urban centres have a challenge in coming up with proper plans and exercising fidelity to those plans as they are being worked. The problem lies in the mindsets of African most of whom have not lived through urbanization beyond a generation. The African is out of his village but the village has not left his mind.

Good question 🤔

Easier said than done. Those developers have enough money to pay the entire NCA personnel for an entire year plus . They are also politically connected and very dangerous.

They take bribes and look the other way.

Eti no patrol? They "patrol" to identify places from where they can demand bribes.

Why can't they build those apartments in rongai, mlolongo, roysambu...

@@muemakiio3466 wee, Roysambu is overpopulated already

It is called zoning. Different areas must be zoned differently to cater for different needs. This madness of mixing up industries, with commercial areas and residential areas with high rise buildings sitting side by side with bungalows, mansionettes and mansions needs to be checked. And where there is need for re-zoning and/or re-planning, let there be detailed public participation. And once approved, adequate infrastructure must be put in before approval of developments in line with the new plans. High rise buildings or indeed any kind of new buildings without proper planning and prior infrastructural developments will only lead to urban decay.

I agree with you

It's not turning,it's already a slum just like umoja and donholm.

No it didn't, most of the houses that were built have remained the same. There no high rise buildings

​@@mojojojo6525 😂do you leave in the high-rise buildings😏

@@martoweche536 no

@@mojojojo6525 High rise buildings is not the only route to slums. Buru Buru and indeed most of the old well planned middle class estates have been reduced to slums through extensions abd grabbing of public spaces. The African problem is a mindset problem. Africans left their villages fir the cities, but the villages never left their minds. They live and think as if they are villages of the old days. Zero respect fir development plans, taka taka all over, unplanned extensions of planned buildings, peeing all over the place, spitting and throwing out phlegm with wanting abandon, and oh yes, you see smartly dressed ladies and gentlemen driving smart cars, throwing maize cobs and banana peels as they drive! And thinking about it, on average, the urban dweller in Kenya has been urbanized for less than 15 years. The urbanite in Kenya is actually a villager who has been transplanted into urban centres.

Babies will suffer vitamin D sicknesses like in slum areas

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True😂😂😂 but if he were to do so, it will be nice.

Nairobi to become another Lagos,

In the 80s, these areas were 'outskirts' of Nairobi

Madness knows no bounds. We must learn to plan properly and respect those plans as we move on. Running away from one mess we have created with just create more messes at wherever you are running to. The African challenge is a mindset problem. The solution lies in fixing the mindset instead of running away from the problem that has arisen from a warped mindset. It is like trying to run away from your shadow! It just can't work. You don't like your shadow? Just make yourself transparent and there will be no shadow to run away from!

Money, be it old or new ought to fit into a plan. Urban planning is one if the biggest challenges for Africans. Perhaps because not many Africans have lived through urbanization beyond a generation. Even the very planners and executors of the plans are basically villagers with titles and academic papers, but with very little socialization in the field of urban planning. The African mindset must be shaken up to appreciate what planning is all about

ati new money? making nairobi a slum one apartment at a time-there is so much land to move to-you cant accommodate the whole of Nrb in a few areas while other lie idle

Good idea. But try telling those "wannabes" who want to be associated with "posh Kilimani". They'll buy or rent anything and then share a single room with 10 other people. The "bora ni kilimani"- attitude

@@suihtflava Nigerians do that everywhere they go even in London

That not the problem, the problem is with those people who bought it long time ago when rules were being followed 😅

But why should the apartments not be bought yet approving and enforcing agencies gave the greenlight for their construction? Are you suggesting that it would be in order if a developer chooses not to sell but rather to retain and rent them out? Those agencies responsible for maintaining order in the city must be called out for failing in their duties.

The problem is if u research it's most likely immigrants refugees doing this that's why they need to go home there is no war in Somalia, they do this even in Nyali just to have a high end address in Kenya for cheap

Well put

Exactly, whoever wants upcountry lifestyle in Nairobi should buy 2 Acres of land and drill a borehole. City council being the service providers shouldn't be whining of limited resources. They are the ones to provide since they collect taxes for the same

Every projet is required to pay an amount to the county, it should have been used to upgrade the infrastructure.

But why can't they go and build such in other parts like rongai, roysambu, mlolongo etc.. Every country should have a Beverly hills like estate.

How about you stop having kids.. Apartment destroy the nature since they don't encourage planting of trees

Proper planning?

Nairobi to become another Lagos,

The issue is not whether you have high rise buildings or not. The challenge is on how they come about and in how well planned they are. The challenge lues in having a severe mismatch between the state of infrastructural support vis-a-vis development of high rise building. There is need for proper planning with clear zoning policies. Then we need to respect those plans as approval for new developments are done.

You can't justify urban decay in the name of accommodating everybody. Plans take into cognizance where the society is and where it is projected to be in future. Kenyan society is very diverse economically. There are low class, lower/upper middle class, and then the affluent. There is a pattern in the growth of these segments. Any plan that ignores those realities of existence is utopian, and will only lead to urban decay.

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Bingo!

😂😂😂those people are Afraid kilimani will be cheap

@@NewtonWebster they are the owners of the fake buildings buit in in 1900s

I don't think you and Newflix get it. Neighborhood's become run down because of exactly what is happening now. Overcrowding, congestion, and generally not a good place to live in. There will be water, drainage and sewage problems. In addition I can guarantee you that that particular developer has not left any grounds for children or "proper" parking.

@@Lulu-po3knthose two DEFINITELY DO NOT GET IT. Just ask them what “urban planning” is….you will hear crickets. This is the prime example of no education (education via bribing for papers) and poor thinking parents for examples of excellence.

@@Lulu-po3kn Don't relocate to Nairobi to live. Just come work and back to ushagoo

Its already Eastlands.....copy of Pipeline if youve been there.

Lol😂😂 when I visited kenya, I wondered how nairobi became ghetto.

We are not disapproving new buildings but it should have some sort of organization

In 5yrs it will be the next kibra pro

Old generation, new generation .. so what..you new generation cannot multitask, can't do math without a calculator, cannot light fire without matches, do not know what a comb ( kichanuo is), can't tidy your compound, clean your bedrooms .You wear clothes that show all your business in the name of fashion.... do not even know what REAL LOVE is. And you now want to teach us urban planning and development. NNKKTT..

Urban planning does not create equality. Instead it takes cognisance of the socio-economic diversity in society and plans differently for different classes so as to match their diverse needs and means.

"If..."

Good planning is wholesome. Water is just one of the many pressures that arise with helter skelter construction of high rise building in a zone ought not have them. Urban planning requires foresight and discipline. Knee jerk responses arise because of poor planning.

Sad indeed. That's why they are referred to as vertical slums.

😂😂😂 all the OG estates have been ruined

​@@brian_jake 😂. Lakini bedsitter 900 ni too much. M3 za getho kilimani.

Huyo wa 1 acre walai … huyo ndo biznezz man 😂 hawa wengine ni jokes…

He He He! Kick the "classier" out. Just another ghetto waiting to happen 😅😅😅😅

Did you see that. Acres with 900 units… how will harvesting train water cater for that population… that’s a slum right there.

Nairobi to become another Lagos,

Kahawa Sukari falls under Kiambu. The madness of converting leafy sub-urbs in Nairobi into concrete jungles emanated from Nairobi Kanju. They re-zoned some parts of Nairobi without public participation. The whole of Kilimani and Kileleshwa was rezoned to become high density settlements. Likewise, half of Lavington was rezoned to become a concrete jungle.

@@georgeodhiambo598 that's interesting information. Good to know. Thank you.

That's a scarcity mentality. It is a mentality founded on the false logic that if your neighbours have and you lack, then you can only have by taking away what your neighbour has or bring yourself to the same level by destroying what he has. That's a narrow scarcity mentality. Abundance mentality is founded on the rich mindset that states that there us everything in abundance. You can create whatever you need without destroying what your neighbour has. After all the neighbour you are envying created his wealth without destroying someone else's wealth. Don't destroy my comfort for you to experience comfort. Don't destroy my peaceful and quiet enjoyment of my environment for you to experience peaceful and quiet enjoyment. There is everything in abundance fir everyone. Just stretch your mind a little

Agreed@@georgeodhiambo598

Why are you mentioning white people....is this their country

Nairobi to become another Lagos,

Those Europeans are running away from African madness. The problem around all this mess is the African mindset, which focusses on destroying what is existing and creating nothing and introducing alot of rot in its place. The villager having found himself in the cities is busy turning them into a village, and oh yes, Europeans with many generations of urbanization are running away in horror. It is nothing to be glorified.

Agreed. My parents sold their home in karen/langata and moved to Kajiado in the mid 1980's. Best move ever. My dad kweli was a giraffe. He had forseen all these urban issues.

@@Kittygacha_playz Wow, your dad had foresight, that's when everyone else was moving to Karen and thinking it's a great idea.

No one is asking that things remain the same. What is being rightly demanded that change ought to be a well planned activity with public participation.

There is no such thing as absolute ownership of land or real estate assets in cities. Land in cities and even lower urban centres is subject to physical plans of each urban centres. You subdivide your plot as you wish. You can't put up structures disregarding plans for that zone. You can't bury your deceased relatives in your compound even thought there might be adequate space. The zoning and planning for each area might even prohibit you from keeping cattle. Towns are planned!

@@georgeodhiambo598 How do you interpret this👉 " This is to certify that XXX is now now registered as ABSOLUTE proprietor of the land comprosing of above mentioned " It's in every Title deed whether in CDB or village unless it's under lease or other entanglements. That's why you can put skyscraper in any Estate. They will take you to court but they will loose. You will only loose if you have faulted NEMA,NCA or the area is not zoned as residential in which case you can still apply change of user certificate else all permits are granted if you follow the right channel.

@@kelvinmuthami4147 Let me bring you up to speed on a few points. There are different types of ownership of land in Kenya. The ownership documents that have statements like "absolute" are called TITLE DEEDS. This ownership type is also referred to as FREEHOLD. They appertain to absolute ownership, not only on the degree of freedom as to what you may do with the land but also that there is no limit on the period of ownership. Such TITLE DEEDS are often issued in areas that have a strong rural nature. Then we have a second type of land ownership. They are called LEASEHOLDS and they not only limit you to the duration of ownership but also imply that the plots will revert to the body/person (the lessor) who has leased it to you (the lessee) upon expiry of the lease period. The lease may come with terms for use. They are usually 99year LEASEHOLDS. And the document issued for such ownership is referred to as a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE (and not title deed!). That's the kind of land ownership that is found in major towns and cities. In such a case, the LESSOR (Govt of Kenya/County Govt/etc) has a major say on how you, being the lessee, may use the land LEASED to you! Remember it is a LEASEHOLD with a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE but not a TITLE DEED! That's why you freely bury your dead relatives within their compounds in rural areas, but you dare not try the same in the city, even if you own a 5 acre plot on a LEASEHOLD ownership. I own properties on 99 year LEASEHOLD in the city with CERTIFICATES OF TITLE and I also own properties in rural areas on FREEHOLD with absolute unlimited period of ownership, with TITLE DEEDS, so I know what I am talking about. The structure and wording of the two types of document are entirely different. Finally, it goes without much debate that you cannot put skyscrapers in any part of the city because firstly, the city is zoned to control the kind of structures and activities that are permissible in any area. Secondly all developments have seek and obtain prior approval before commencement of construction. It is the County Govt that changed the zoning guidelines for Kilimani, Kileleshwa and half of Lavington without detailed public participation. The other half of Lavington remains intact under the previous zoning guidelines The rot began with the County Govt and its predecessor, City Council.

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Do u afford 200k +?? Apartments aren't cheap either

Eee tunapanga kuhama Ruaka tukielekea huko😂😂

pumbavu rent ni ya Kilimani but congestion ni kama uko Pipeline it would be pure misery

What good will it do you to run away from your natural slum then to export your slum mentality to a pish area and create another slum? The problem with where you live now is because of your slum mindset. It has been stated before that if you hand over a posh estate to slum dwellers, they will most likely convert it into a slum within a short time. But if you hand over a slum to posh estate dwellers, they will quickly convert it into a posh estate. The problem is not with where you live, but your own mindset.

Have you seen japan apartments? That's where we are headed to 😊

Mpesa and urban planning are very different concepts. Stop mixing up issues

Nairobi to become another Lagos,

its the unregulated building thats the problem. they should only build if there is electricity, water, sewer system and proper infrastructure that accounts for road safety and other types of transport then using a car. nairobi is just complete chaos now. it shouldnt be like that. they should invest in other cities so that you dont have to live in nairobi for a good job. if you do it, do it right. in 10 years this will be a even worse place to live inm. cities wil always change. they should make sure that its a good/positive change, not a bad one. and its possible. look to europe. not every big city is chaos.

The fact the cities are changing is not an excuse for introducing urban decay. Changes must be within the context of a plan. And there are procedures for preparing and altering urban plans. Helter skelter construction of structures disregarding urban plans in just an invitation for chaos and urban decay.

Nairobi to become another Lagos, you will understand when you live in the traffic

Thank you! That's the point I'm trying to make Reuben. Proper planning is all we need.

It is those who are invading zones catering for the affluent who should seek their place of habitation in those remote areas you are talking about. Why should an invader be accommodated at the expense of residents of a zone of affluence?

Nabii itabidi aje he nyumba mingi

If the population keeps increasing so quickly, do not expect the housing prices to ever fall... Family planning should be heavily promoted and encouraged to avert disaster.

Even mansions within the zones of affluence were affordable to the affluent class It is different strokes for different folks.

Every county you travel ni hizi rental slums its like thats the only biz

City authority should bear the blame and not developers, approvals pass through the same offices and they are not ready to work on amenities.

😂😂😂😂😂na ndio nasema watu watahama ungwaro kilimani here we come

Muthaiga is a little strict… give them 20 yrs.

Muthaiga has alot of embassies.....that will never happen...plus muthaiga is very strict...Matatus are not even allowed

With developments used to launder money from international cartels, including drug and terrorist cartels. The ignorance of the average Kenyan regarding their failing country is shocking.

​@@upstar21t a matter of time

Bana kwanza hio njia nyumba ya Denver. Rent imepanda sukari na wendani students can't even afford anymore that's why many migrated to ruiru.

Nyumba zijengwe na mpango

You seem to be clueless about controlled development. So you want Nairobi to be like another India? We already have more slums and we can’t risk to have another ones. And what makes you think those bedsitters cheap?

Very stupid comment here. Cause government is who? It’s you and I!!! Meaning the setup has to think of all of us. But because you think with your feet you and your children and your children’s children will be a burden to Kenya for a very long time.

​@@JadeReal😂😂😂😂😂😂let mw just laugh. Haujamshow poa

@@JadeReal OK. Time will tell.

Modern cities need proper planning,categorising residential areas from high end to lower middle class.We can not mix all together and expect to be classified as modern metropolis.

@@justinamusyoka4986 exactly! Well said!

If they were virtually all empty, then there would be no pressure on water, sewerage, road traffic, etc!

There is controlled development and uncontrolled development. The subject here is uncontrolled development of which even county leaders appear or feign to be helpless. It is the ensuing lack of control of development in Nairobi that's of concern. Uncontrolled development is actually counter-development. It is not sustainable in the long run.