Narcissism in the Fashion Industry w/ Barrett Pall

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Barrett Pall was young and not sure what he wanted to do with his life; when a friend suggested modeling. Unsure about moving in that trajectory, Barrett hesitated, only to be encouraged by his friends. As a young adult who wanted to help with his family finances, Barrett was told that modeling could help his family out of financial trouble so he pursued it. On top of trying to make money; Barrett was struggling with coming out and learning about his own queerness as he was immersed in the vicious world of modeling. Listen and learn how Barrett was able to pick himself up from an extremely low point in his life and career; and how he's able to rise above the narcissistic world of modeling to where he is today.
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Barrett Pall is a Life Coach, Activist, and Digital Creator, who reaches over 2.3 million people across his social platforms. Throughout his humanitarian work he has traveled to all 7 continents, which lead to him being profiled by the UN at the UNGA in 2019. In 2016 Pall hiked 800 miles on the PCT, and since then his mission is to fully lean into helping the world heal. Barrett welcomes you to join his Love Army where together our purpose is to empower, educate, and inspire as many humans as possible.
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@lalinera8279 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr. Ramani ❤️ Please do one episode with a veteran or a military person to show the toxicity in military culture. Lord knows...it is a breeding ground for narcissism.

@starlingswallow Жыл бұрын

Yes!! I second this request regarding the military!

@elizabethconnolly3260 11 ай бұрын

Would love to see this too -especially from a female soldier.

@annettecabezas6697 9 ай бұрын

Also the police, I live in a town where some of them are 18 years old and w

@danilaroche1156 Жыл бұрын

I haven't even listened yet, but I will. I'm thinking modeling/narcissism? That's pretty much a given. I had signed with a top agency in New York city. Did commercials, runway, beauty and hair ads. Made $. Modeling was incredibly stressful & competitive. Also, I encountered alot of sexual harassment. I'm so glad I escaped.

@limitedtime5471 Жыл бұрын

Oh my god, a crossover i could not predict but am thrilled to see!!

@JuliaShalomJordan Жыл бұрын

The modeling industry destroys souls. When I was entering the industry, my mom tried to warn me but I had to find out the traumatic way.😖

@carriebell3566 6 ай бұрын

My daughter begged me to get into it when she was very young, I told her she would have to wait until she was 18, precisely because I knew how it worked.

@maam-yj8ph Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this interview. So grateful for people like Brandon Pall who are willing to speak against the evil practices and mindsets in the modeling industry. There are certainly many parallels to the entertainment and music industries too.

@maam-yj8ph Жыл бұрын

I wish Dr Ramani would stop interjecting and interrupting.

@Rosa-rm6op Жыл бұрын

Barrett not Brandon !

@juniperfall Жыл бұрын

Barrett, what a beautiful soul you are, a a gifted teacher, a true leader.

@chiyerano Жыл бұрын

To paraphrase things you should NEVER do when being a model: 1) Work for exposure 2) Go to a photographer's studio as this is not safe 3) Sign anything without a lawyer or anyone you trust looking over it first 4) Manipulate your body to fit the clothing as your body is a temple 5) Let an industry tell you what to look like. Good advice and important points to remember to take for almost any industry. Thank you, Barrett Pall.

@heatherhammersmith8997 8 ай бұрын

I modeled for well over 10 years (4yrs abroad) and I can say what Barret is saying is true and it's so much worse. Debt bondage and all the costs you take on, working for free, etc...these are absolutely very serious problems! And while I certainly ran into some troubles, I believe my saving grace was that I was much older than my peers (24) and I was less tolerant of the BS (body shaming, coercion, etc.). So I did say no to a lot of things, I held fast to ideals and work integrity but I knew that my ability to find other paths or means (change agencies, get my own apartment instad of expensive dormitory "model hotels" and so on) wasn't the norm - and yet, I still had some abusive and/or exploitative experiences to contend with nonetheless. It's also VERY unrewarding to resist, as debt bondage kept e in some countries longer than I'd wanted and it also meant that I didn't work as well for quite some time but my stubbornness also eventually led me to good agents (again, not the norm). Agencies are truly horrific enablers! I was keenly aware of the preditory nature of the industry and all likeminded people allowed to surround it, so I spent a LOT of time trying to provide mental/emotional support for my peers who were 5 to 10 years younger. I was especially concerned with minors because the level of freedom they had was truly dangerous, essentially having no responsible adult around them while they could and were encouraged to indulge in all kinds of very adult activities. Now that I'm older and understand the lack of impulsivity control as that age, it's actually quite terrifying looking back on it all.

@heatherhammersmith8997 8 ай бұрын

PS - Barret is also asking the right question of those who want to model: WHY? That was also important in my experience because I really only wanted to live in foreign countries and get to know other cultures through working with people (as opposed to tourism). So I learned the language of every country I lived in, which enabled me to get "under the table" jobs to supplement my income too.

@persiamotorman Жыл бұрын

So far (two thirds of the way in), I haven't heard anything that he describes as happening in the modeling industry which doesn't also happen in gay clubs (except the power imbalance). I think a model would need a lot of resilience and street smarts....but you don't know what you don't know. At this point he might should forgive himself for that lack of awareness at that point. It's good that's he's being a life coach. Hard knocks give us a lot of insight.

@mystrength5640 Жыл бұрын

This soo awful.. Soo sorry. Take Care of Yourself! 🙏🏻

@Portia620 11 ай бұрын

Genius!!! Trident!!! Barrett has made some very profound comments that are soo true and painful to accept in the consumerism world we live in!!!!!

@BuntingClipClop Жыл бұрын

I just subscribed, Barrett. The fact that you've retained such a sweetness of nature is a testament to your character, which in the end is the only asset we truly take with us through life.

@JuliaShalomJordan Жыл бұрын

Yes. I agree.

@laraoneal7284 Жыл бұрын

This is a common story in the modeling industry.

@lisameyer7757 8 ай бұрын

Wow! I experienced the same thinng in the modeling industry. I can't believe how many people want to escape into a dream...I did... because things at home were so bad I was easily manipulated and groomed like so many young folks. Little did I know that I traded the frying pan for the fire and it sure hurt being burned. Barrett has a great message and I hope that he is able to change things in social media because from what I have seen after getting out...regulation, awareness and reform are the only way to protect the vulnerable who take this stuff way too seriously. Maybe our society should be modeled less like the hunger games!?!

@Julia-um4rv Жыл бұрын

Dr. Ramani, my dream for a long time was to be a successful actress. Not necessarily famous but successful. I remember spending a lot of money on an acting class for the teacher to say that in order to be successful we have to want it more than anything. That did not sit right with me. It was setting us up to deal with whatever shit was flung our way. I feel like the entertainment industry in general is toxic. You can spend your entire life clawing to the top and barely make it half way. The cost of classes, headshots and the amount of unpaid hours...also, there are shady people everywhere. I also don't know how people work. The one extra job I got, they kept moving around the days so I had to back out of it because I couldn't take off all that work. It honestly felt like a pyramid scheme.

@starlingswallow Жыл бұрын

Barrett, I just wanted to say thank you ❤ I hope and pray you have loving and encouraging people around you who truly see you, hear you, accept and love you just the way you are. ((BIG hugs!)) It's a huge deal for you to share your story in order to help others who have similarities with your life & story. You have a beautiful heart! Thanks Dr. Ramani for all of these stories! Your other channel is priceless and has helped me so much, but there is also so much to learn through the hearing of others stories. Thank you! ❤

@annette2153 8 ай бұрын

Dr. Ramani, thank you for this podcast. Please pass this on to Barrett, I would like to tell him the following: Your inner light is beautiful. Keep strong and embrace your light. You are a fighter.

@theolivialopez 7 ай бұрын

I would love to see narcissism in the dance community. It's very similar to these.

@francesbernard2445 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr. Ramani. The fashion industry has become like an Achilles heel to all of humanity. Finally we hear the truth from someone who knows all to well about that. Because a lot of us siblings left behind after losing a sibling to death young after seeking a career in the fashion industry while they were being promised much by fashion aficionados who charged our parents money for going along with it while believing in their growing child and in what their aspirations are are hurting too.

@mystrength5640 Жыл бұрын

God Bless you in your New endeavours! Sorry You’ve been through all this! You have come through this. And Successfully got to know yourself.. 🎉🙏🏻

@judithflom6366 9 ай бұрын

The only way anything is going to change is by people being reported to the police and going to jail. Unfortunately one or two victims may be chalked up to he said she said (or he said he said) that it was voluntary or angling for a leg up in the business but if there is a pattern they will be prosecuted. And these companies need to have their pants sued off.

@angieoh2 Жыл бұрын

Love you Barrett!

@katladyfromtheNetherlands Жыл бұрын

It is merely how someone looks but...he looks very very good. People may think that is easy ? Its not. It takes effort. It takes diet etc.

@bereal6590 7 ай бұрын

Lovely guy👏✋✌

@curuvari2247 Ай бұрын

Listen to Dr Ramani slowly die inside as she has to literally navigate narcissism throughout this episode, Jesus Mad respect for validating his experiences though, whether they’re true or not, and encouraging his self-reflection, taking responsibility and his admitting to being part of a bigger problem. [Will delete this comment later cos it’s a lil snarky and this commenter right here is a ✨ coward ✨]