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You think Neji beats Sasuke at all points of the story when they're both alive? That is probably the most disgustingly wrong opinion about Naruto that I've ever heard. So you think war arc Neji beats EMS Sasuke? It's very clear that Neji gets stomped by Sasuke from the final valley onwards.

@@shiedakayn3938 Correct -- logically, neji beats sasuke at every point when theyr'e both alive. no -- YOU THINK ... or rather FEEL that i'm wrong, however you can't make a sound argument against what I've claimed -- which is why you haven't attempted to, and which is why no one has been able to despite the many years this has been a debate topic. Yes -- Neji beats EMS Sasuke. No such thing is clear... and anyone who is an informed a critical thinker knows my claim is correct here... which is THE reason that ppl who say sasuke would win MUST abandon logical/reasonable arguments. Every time a person chooses sasuke they have to simply dismiss the matchup and then try to make a mockery of it. That, or they claim abject falsehoods in reaching their conclusion. my other comment (right below this, from what i'm seeing) basically talks about this issue.

@@shadow0508 Stop projecting, you're the one making a ridiculous claim with no arguments. I'm more than able to debate you on how Sasuke stomps Neji from the final valley onwards. Before trying to say that nobody can make a sound argument against your position(when all it takes is a double digit IQ), how about you actually debunk all the points made in Swagkage's video? In the Chunin exams, Neji was essentially pushed to his limits against a Naruto that used nothing except the weakest Kyubi amp. A simple punch from this Naruto was already enough to evenly clash with the rotation, and it weakened Neji to the point of getting one shot by a base Naruto coming out of the ground. A Naruto with an additional month of training plus a larger Kyubi amp was getting trashed by 3t Sasuke. Stacking curse mark on top of that is just overkill, and there's no doubt a curse mark enhanced chidori would cut through rotation like butter. Final valley Sasuke overpowered KN1 Naruto, Neji is nowhere close to that level. Neji would've been one shot by base Jirobo's earth dome without Choji, and Neji was also tagged by base Kidomaru twice. He was just lucky that he happened to have an ability that allowed him to cut the webs, he would've been no diffed without that counter. Even then, Neji would have been low diffed by curse mark 1 Kidomaru as long as Kidomaru just continued with the Kunai spam. In shippuden, Neji remains practically featless while Sasuke only gets stronger and stronger. BOS Sasuke is casually soloing 1000 ninja in base without kill intent and with no signs of fatigue or injury(causing Orochimaru to admit that his genius doesn't compare to Sasuke's), while a war arc Neji fighting alongside allies gets bedridden fighting against white zetsus. Neji got caught in a water prison by a water clone from 30 percent Kisame. All of team Gai couldn't even kill an armless Deidara that just spent the past 3 days sealing a Bijuu and soloing the Sand village. In fact, they would've died to just Deidara's exploding clone without Kakashi's Kamui. Meanwhile, a holding back hebi Sasuke defeated an all out Deidara that had a free ambush attempt, an intel advantage, a preplanned strategy that used Tobi's help, and a preplanned counter to sharingan genjutsu. Hebi Sasuke is taking on full akatsuki members, while Neji can't even handle their clones. Also, what exactly is Neji going to do if Sasuke decides to use Manda or Kirin? At the five kage summit, Karin stated that base 3t Sasuke's chakra is already thicker/colder than when he was in the second state of the curse mark. Sasuke also has a hawk summon now, so if he decides to use it and set up Kirin there isn't anything Neji can do about it. Sasuke is reacting to the Raikage at this point, what speed feats does Neji have that suggest he doesn't just get blitzed by Sasuke? Amaterasu or Susanoo arrows blitz Neji even harder. Kakashi and Danzo couldn't dodge Susanoo arrows, what makes you think Neji can? Neji has absolutely zero chance here, and gaining the EMS only made Sasuke even stronger. Sasuke literally just looks in Neji's direction and fodderizes him with blaze release yasaka magatama spam. That's what EMS Sasuke did to flex on the same white zetsus that Neji was struggling with before Neji was killed off by branches like the fodder he is.

@@shiedakayn3938 i'm obviously mentioning a fact over the many years of this match-up topic. predictably, you did all the same kinds of things that other ppl have done or tried when engaging this topic... I was going to go line by line refuting all the things you claiming but it turned into an enormous wall of text that i know you will not read... it's happened with others before. the problem is that you, and those like you, like to say a bunch of stuff with varying levels of inaccuracy and/or dishonesty. when try to make an argument, dare i call it that, you using nothing but flawed logic -- which again, has inaccurate/wrong/dishonest/etc information at it's foundation... this is the primary reason thoroughly debunking and correcting everything you've claimed turns into the massive wall of text. I'm not joking here -- literally EVERYTHING you claimed about neji is laced with inaccuracies (i.e: neji was pushed to his limits during the chunin exam) or is outright incorrect (i.e: enhanced chidro would cut through kaiten like butter) , just your misinformed or unreasonable opinion (i.e: neji would have been low diffed by CS1 kidoumaru), or is a fact that resulted only due to the plot shenanigans forcing that outcome (ie: neji being killed). at the same time, you either undermine or amplify things at your whim to try to make neji look bad/worse, or make sasuke look better (i.e: the ten tails thorns being called "branches", calling naurto kyuubi punch a simple punch, praising sasuke defeating 1000 nameless ninja who are ACTUAL fodder, pretending neji and part of the army he was with wasn't dealing with a ridiculous horde of zetsu designed to fight a battle of attrition and just delay and exhaust them, and much more). that already suggests dishonesty, but you show varying levels of more blatant dishonesty -- suggesting neji was struggling with zetsu horde for reasons other than getting tired/exhausted after fighting for many hours on end while his byakugan was active and he doing what he could to keep everyone else safe -- essentially multi-tasking like crazy for hours on end... which has NOTHING to do with the topic here. speaking of which, various things you mention/state are blatant red herrings (i.e: the nonsense about Jirobo). another thing you and those arguing your position always do, is try to do *nothing but* rely on feats.... which is a flawed method of trying to gauge things since they're more subjective than any of you ever want to admit. additionally, you use flawed logic to draw your circularly "reasoned" conclusion (to be clear, you use arguments from ignorance to draw the conclusion you actually already desired)... obviously this is ALL wrong. So instead of going through each and every line... neji lost his fight in the chunin exam to naruto 100% due to plot shenanigans. those plot shenanigans don't have a place in a hypothetical, so sasuke cannot be saved in the same ways naruto was in the actual story. and since i'm not a dishonest party here, i'll be straight in letting you know the plot shenanigans working against neji is reoccuring theme since it's the only way Kishimoto could make things somewhat interesting when neji was involved -- every instance of something you think gives you ammo against neji happens to be a moment where the plot if forcing the BS result that makes no sense at all... in a separate post, name the moment and i'll explain exactly how/why it's plot BS forcing that outcome. Understand that your ABC logic doesn't apply, AND that you're making all sorts of unfounded/unproven assumptions before applying that inapplicable logic. Sasuke doesn't actually hand speed well like you think. he definitely doesn't handle CQC (close quarters combat) as well as you think. you're quick to mention 3t sasuke beat up KN0 naruto... but you fail to mention that 2t sasuke was absolutely curbstomped by KN0 just moments before, and that 3t sasuke (who obviously didn't improve his skills/speed/etc AT ALL from via that eye evolution) was able to beat up KN0 because his eyes automatically predicted naruto's movements for him. ONLY THEN did he have the ability to react to and deal with naruto... his speed didn't change, his skill level didn't change.... just the conditions, changed which enabled to him to deal with naruto in that state. 3t can only predict naruto's movement because naruto is in a chakra shroud (if naruto had that speed, but not the shroud, nothing would have changed for sasuke when he go the 3rd tomoe)... furthermore, naruto is make movements that are easier to predict in the first place (linear movements, dashing in to attack from a distance -- this is why Kimimaro had zero difficulty dealing with him and his clones)... after all naruto sucked at CQC too.... his skill level wasn't that different from sasuke's and they're level ends up equal as of the last databook... so tjhose events seriously show sasuke ability, or inability, to deal with fast opponents. in a fight vs neji, sasuke's eye wouldn't be predicting neji's movements/attacks for him, and he would be defeated very early on -- where his chakra network would get disabled, he'd barely be able to move, and he'd be finished off. Neji could actually speed blitz sasuke and sasuke wouldn't really be able to do anything about it due to how poorly he handles his opponents' speed (which is part of the reason he takes the offensive in that regard), but i wouldn't make that the basis of my arguments since neji doesn't normally operate that way. it's really that simple, and is basically the reoccurring theme for any other iteration of sasuke vs neji. Sasuke isn't that great at CQC but he always charges in to engage in CQC to start -- this is a fatal mistake against neji for him. Neji is shown/proven to not hesitate to use 64 palms early on... and anyone hit by this, who isn't a jinchuuriki and/or doesn't have an ability invented by the writers specifically to save them (i.e.: Golden Armor [lol]), has lost the fight if/when the plot isn't there to save them. Even a jinchuuriki would lose the fight in that situation without the plot to save them. you're asking or suggesting pointless things -- talking about summons and imagining sasuke behaving in a way he hasn't, doesn't, and which actually conflicts with everything you've ever seen from him is how bias and fanfiction work. asking me what neji is supposed to do if sasuke summon manda, is pointless. asking questions about "if sasuke summons his hawk and sets up kirin" is pointless. you're fantasizing him being in a OOC state that he's not going to do. you don't want to play this kind of game, and frankly neither do i since it's pointless. i will say though, that kirin is an overhyped and completely impractical technique. kirin, at least as ppl know and think of it, requires all sorts of prep and distance to be used. I've already hinted at it, but you pointed to blatant plot nonsense... you can't possibly deny the BS surrounding deidara... from simple thing to more complex things. explain how he an armless deidara did clay clone to escape naruto (how'd he even put the clay in his mouth to produce the clone and escape?). Explain how, while armless, he removed a kunai from its holster and put it in his mouth... and explain why team gai allowed him to do this, considering he had no kunai in his mouth when they got the drop on him. explain how deidara got away from them using the exploding clone, without neji nor kakashi noting that he was escaping underground. when sasuke beat deidara, the only thing that happened is that Deidara who was PnJ abuser, ran into Sasuke who was a superior abuser of PnJ... so the result wasn't a surprise at all. despite not going line by line, this still turned into a really large text, so i'm gonna stop here despite there still being A LOT to say about this topic and the things you guys try to do/pull regarding this matchup. anyway... long story short, Neji is sasuke kryptonite. sorry to say but pretty much everything you've been saying/doing affirms what i said: "ppl who say sasuke would win *MUST abandon logical/reasonable arguments*. Every time a person chooses sasuke they have to simply dismiss the matchup and then try to *make a mockery of it*. That, *or they claim abject falsehoods in reaching their conclusion*." i can probably just direct you to the long back and forth "debate" the i had on swagkage's video itself. after all, you've done some of the same things those people did (which may help you understand why i said "which is why no one has been able to despite the many years this has been a debate topic." here you go (my comment thread should be the first one shown, highlighted, if this link is working correctly): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJmEp7pelqrGn2w.html&lc=Ugzdqz6IKU231lXw2XB4AaABAg

@@shiedakayn3938 my god dude you busted a huge load with this comment