I agree. Fans are very toxic sometimes.

@@claiirdelunee...casual fans are fine. It's the super fangirls that are toxic. So sad how extreme they are. Can't believe there's so much spite towards Nathan for simply winning. He's such a gracious, kind person. Those fan should spend more time cheering Yuzu on instead of trashing another skater.

What boggles me is that fans don't accept that there're pros and cons for every skater. They're not perfect, otherwise there would be nothing more to improve. There would be Yuzu fans who deny Yuzu's shortcomings and Nathan fans who deny Nathan has elements to improve on. It's an endless discussion.

I know, especially since Nathan's skating skills are better than Yuzuru's now. Yuzu's skating has become stale.

@@doctorjames7454 Choreo is different from skating skills. Do you mean choreo/style and don't like Yuzu's? But skills per se, I have to disagree, especially that Jason, Shoma, and Kevin are also banking on their skating skills (not just the choreo).

what injury?

@@atreyeesardar319 his last two ankle injuries were pretty bad: first he got on NHK 2017 and didn’t skate again until Olympic game 2018, even there he was still injured and skipped WC after; and the second was year later when he basically just heeled the first one - on Rostelecom Cup 2018 and again I believe he skipped whole season until WC 2019

Got good news for you (December 26 2021.)

@@Prettyautumnrain I watched livestream)))

He has landed a quad axel very close to being a clean one

Honestly Nathan might try the quad axel. He never said he won’t try it

@@Anna-zp5og well, by the attempts we've seen from both of them it's clear that Yuzu is already almost there, but Nate still has to work on it. So I'm still pretty sure that Yuzu will be the first to land it. In one of the recent interviews he said that now is the most possible time for landing it (or something like that, I can't remember the exact phrase).

@@Anna-zp5og nah, 3A isn't his favourite jump

I think Nathan learned a lot from Yuzu. Now he's taking over the place of Yuzu in competitions. I think this is the natural way of life.

Almost everyone knows that 3A & 4Lo were not Chen's favorite jumps, he openly said in press cons that 3A is his weakest jump, and he has no desire to go for 4A, he said 4A is Yuzu's take, he also said that 4Lo is a scary jump, he doesn't like to get hurt and he'll let Yuzu to take care of 4A & 4Lo. Currently, Chen cannot jump any quads, 3A and difficult triple jumps, due to old hip injury that ended his career too soon and he had to quit competing at age 22 and has been replaced with Ilia.

Same prefer yuzu's style regarding his performances like artistically but no one can deny just how good and talented Nathan is and he's also improved quite a lot when it comes to artistry (showing emotion and finishing every move completely)

Agreed. Nathan has real class. Same as Yuzu. Respectful, honest people. I'm not a fan of Nathan's programs or his artistry but wouldn't dream of denying him credit for his phenomenal jumping skills.

This type of sportsmanship wasn’t always a part of the sport. The toxic rivalries between Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan and between Plushenko and Yagudin are infamous. Honestly, I think the way Yuzuru has always been so friendly and supportive of his opponents in the sport has inspired many who look up to him to behave similarly.

@@johannakerbl4566 I think we (Yuzu fans) are a little biased. Yuzu has such a perfect body figure for ice dancing. He has the grace of a ballet dancer on ice. Nathan is very good, but different. He will _never_ be able to pull out a performance like Notte Stellata. He would never put on a costume like that either. So whenever Yuzu's fandom does that comparison it is always biased and at the same time it's like a comparison of something sweet with something salty, while we actually like both as they are.😊

sweet explanation. :)) Both of them are sweet boys share the ice in same good Era and being such good examples to the world. :))

Ive been trying to do a double axel for so long now, its so difficult i think.

ethereal maybe

Reporters often struggle to find words too. 😎

he made the 4a today!! he didnt land it, but it was confirmed by the ISU as the first 4a on screen YAAAAAAA

YES! And I'm so proud of him and admire him so much. The way he was able to skate so beautifully despite everything going on. He has all my respect. Congratulations Yuzuru our king and champion no matter what💙

Reading this in August, 2022. 😭💔

Reading this in August, 2022 😭💔

I agree

Same here.

Well said, I totally agree

Wow... I mean, actually Wow... Lots of respect for Yuzuru Hanyu ? Wow... 😲😱😲

@@divine-Ina-bauer...lots of respects to him. Hate his fanbase.

I'm still shocked... 😱😱😱

@@divine-Ina-bauer...awesome. Don't care.

😱😱😱

That is also my opinion..both are greater jumpers HOWEVER...the GOE's will belong to #yuzuruhanyu except he fell during the program..to Fanyus..nathan also has ability to do the 4A...so don't hate him a lot,..just a pinch of sugar!!!

I'm sure Nathan practices everything, including the 4A...but he's not focused on it the way Yuzu is. If he can land one then great, and if not, then, whatever. It's no big deal. It's not a goal of his to be the first to do it, and he doesn't need it to prove anything. Sounds like it's pretty important to Yuzu though, so, best of luck to him.

@@divinearia1601 I think it's because Yuzu is the type of person who needs a goal or inspiration to get motivated. If he doesn't make 4A a big deal, he wouldn't strive for it and end up losing interest for the sport all together. He's had a grand slam. There's nothing else to desire for except 4A, that no one has done on competition before.

@@divinearia1601 Yuzu has practically no need for a medal right now, he’s won 2 olympic and 2 wc and has achieved super slam so I think with a person like him who is kind of a perfectionist (?), he needs to set a goal to break into next or else there won’t be a challenge anymore. His mindset when he was a kid and up until now has always been, if it’s hard, then it’s fun. He himself said that he was never a champ, he is a challenger and maybe when there’s no challenge anymore, he’ll search for it. He also is a smart dude, coaches from different countries, long jump athletes, gymnasts, and professors have reached out to him with a study on the physics of his jump and have openly supported his journey to conquering human body limitations. Right now, 4A is the only thing to conquer so that’s his target. He wanted to break beyond the limits of the sport so that others will follow possibly with a quint.

@@elle4709 true periodt

He tried twice and completely fell down twice.

He attempted to do the 4A. It doesn't mean he was successful at it. He fell twice. I don't think he felt proud. You putting on the blinders at his performance is a disservice to him.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yeah 😅

I don't mean to be rude but you honestly think they haven't tried that?

yesss, and he recently used it in a competition, it didn't landed perfectly but I know he will get better at it.

Yeah I truly think the skater must be trained at a very young age to rotate enough rotations and land it due to the size and weight of the body. But with this low bv noone even bothers to try. Yuzu is the only crazy one because he already won in every competition

Whether he ever lands it successfully or not, I just really hope he takes care of himself and prioritizes the health of his legs (particularly his ankles). If he wants to keep skating competitively until he's 30+, he needs to be showing those gold-winning ankles love (and I know he is, but those landings look really painful and hard on the body)

Well good news, he is closer than ever has been in the history of landing the quad axel. He landed the 4A two footed during Japan nationals during december so yea I think that there is a chance that we might see it.

Do you mean 3.5A by 4 rotations off ice? It will give the forward landing which is not ratified I think, since all the landings are backward. Maybe I’m wrong

3.5A is called triple axel. 4A is supposed to be 4.5 rotations.

You don't need to wait for long now for it will happen less than a year...February?? sweet jesus i forgot the dat of the olympicXD

@@darkflame3669 ... Is there any event left for this season that Nathan is competing in that you know?

@@Gemini530 Worlds Team Trophy is starting at this Thursday in Osaka. Nate is already there with Team USA, if my informations are right all the teams are there. ISU will stream the whole competion. If you ask me it's a totally unnecessesery event but the whole prize money is 1 million dollar so ofc it's about money as always. After this event it's off season, Grand Prix is the next event in the Olympics season. It's going to be madhouse just saying especially in Russia.

@@darkflame3669 ... That’s great. One last time to see Nathan compete with Yuzuru before the season’s over 🥰 Thanks.

@@darkflame3669 "totally unnecessary event" - I'm dying loool.

Probably true, but I don't think he really wants to

As if yuzu can do a quad axel lmfao. Nathan's attempt of 4A was even better than yuzu but he does not need it to win.

...and you know Nathan can never do a quad axel because...?

@@divinearia1601 Raf said he is trainning 4A, I totally trust Raf

Well i dont want to start anything but to give you guys a little update: If you have not watched the Japanese nationals that took place in december Yuzu is closer than ever now to land the quad axel. IT IS THE CLOSEST ANYONE HAS EVER COME TO LANDING THAT JUMP. He landed it two footed tho but at the moment that is more progress than ever. So I do think that there is a chance that we might see Yuzu land the quad axel during olympics. Not meant to offend or insult but to just give an little update on how its going.

Yuzuru is a respectful gentleman it's a shame that some of his fans don't have the same class

@@user-kk4vi2jy6c ...so whats your point , please?

you are too subjective!

Nathan was actually practicing for 3A, not for 4A, it was just a speculation by his fans. 4A was not his thing, he could barely do 3A with heavy pre-rotation... not anymore.

He most certainly did not...but certain people have spun it that way, yes.

Yes he did... and apologized later.

On 0.17 ..that is a shame.

Take it easy, honey. It's just a gesture