Native American Perspective on First Contact with Europeans // As related to Jon Heckewelder (1770s)

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Voices of the Past

Voices of the Past

3 жыл бұрын

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Taken from 'History, manners, and customs of the Indian nations who once inhabited Pennsylvania and the neighboring states' by Heckewelder, John Gottlieb Ernestus, 1743-1823
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@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 3 жыл бұрын
Hello all! Hope you are enjoying the video. One correction - John was a member of the Moravian church, not Monrovian church. Monrovia is a city in Liberia, so it would have been an amazing story, but no.
@greywolf845
@greywolf845 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video! Perhaps the next video can focus on Joseph Brant of the Iroquois Confederacy! His story is a great one, and his documented words in his death bed unforgettable! Just a suggestion!
@Ivan.A.Trulyuski
@Ivan.A.Trulyuski 3 жыл бұрын
Monrovia is named after US president Monroe who setup Liberia as a country for freed U.S. slaves. Flag of Liberia : 🇱🇷
@chiisuigintou
@chiisuigintou 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, but most who came there, came from the southern part of the land back than, naming their settlements after home cities, such as Antwerp and Hoboken. Back than it wasn't the Netherlands, but Leo Belgicus.
@gbenay
@gbenay 3 жыл бұрын
Monrovia is also a city in California.
@adamfiser7645
@adamfiser7645 3 жыл бұрын
Morava/Moravia is a historical land, now part of the Czech republic. The adjective "Moravian" is somewhat inaccurate in this case, because the church did not originate in Morava. It did have a significant presence there. Moravian church has its roots in prelutheran protestant movement in Bohemia founded by Petr Chelčický known as Unity of brethern. Morava was a land of the Bohemian Crown. The church members had to escape religious persecution and that's how this church started its mission outside the country of its origin. First they settled in Saxony and most of these refugees came from Morava - hence the name.
@LeeRaldar
@LeeRaldar 3 жыл бұрын
First UFO sighting in America. Unidentified Floating Object
@BUMWRECK3R
@BUMWRECK3R 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you can say the first aliens in America as well.
@spyrofrost9158
@spyrofrost9158 3 жыл бұрын
@@BUMWRECK3R Just as the Aztec mistook the Spanish for Quetzalcoatl, so do we misinterpret aliens as the deities of our ancestors. The gods were aliens all along!
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 3 жыл бұрын
@@BUMWRECK3R and ilegal ones at that...
@wildhogs1ful
@wildhogs1ful 3 жыл бұрын
How do you think the natives got here? They came from Israel by ship! So they knew what a dam ship was this docu is bull
@OddZodd
@OddZodd 3 жыл бұрын
@@wildhogs1ful WHAT! You do know that before the sea level was as high as it is today, that there was connections between alaska and the russian mainland, which is how we now now that there was a long immigration path travelling all throughout the region before it was cut off after the last ice age or so, So i don't really know what you're talking about.
@bobmcbob49
@bobmcbob49 3 жыл бұрын
the absolute legend who decided to finish off the bottle without the other chiefs' help
@bladudemovies
@bladudemovies 3 жыл бұрын
Fine. I’ll do it myself!
@nopespray3724
@nopespray3724 3 жыл бұрын
That chief was the G.O.A.T
@TheMauviet
@TheMauviet 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the red coat guy's face when the chief started chugging. Or that chief going drunk talking to people before passing out.
@jgvtc559
@jgvtc559 3 жыл бұрын
Alcohol was their kryptonite
@yourbarista4154
@yourbarista4154 3 жыл бұрын
@@jgvtc559 I wonder if they tried white women first.
@SirAroace
@SirAroace 3 жыл бұрын
calling a ship of that size a "floating house" is fairly accurate
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 3 жыл бұрын
But they were only judging the appearance tho, not the function
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinnamuco9096 the function being pillage and plunder
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinnamuco9096 But it did function as a house? They didn’t live somewhere else while they sailed it there.
@mayorgeneralramirez1997
@mayorgeneralramirez1997 3 жыл бұрын
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 No, colonizers were not nice. They had a very clear set of objectives: making money. That's just how things were at the time. As for the galleons? They were cargo ships. The bigger commerce ships of the merchant fleets of Europe could compete in armament with warships. Very versatile boats.
@guymetdrapedes220
@guymetdrapedes220 2 жыл бұрын
How about a floating mountain?
@captindo
@captindo 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of giving a laptop to my elderly dad. He's very wise but, after a year I visited him for a bit and asked him about the laptop, he said he couldn't turn the dammed thing on and we laughed.
@wildzwaan
@wildzwaan 3 жыл бұрын
'Couldnt turn the damned thing on'. Right. Safe to say your old man had riddled that laptop with the vilest porn imaginable.
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 3 жыл бұрын
I thought, that you were going to say, that he'd mistook the laptop to be a cutting board or something completely unrelated to it's intended use!
@martingoldfire
@martingoldfire 3 жыл бұрын
@@wildzwaan Unwillingly one would hope, even in fantasy.
@thewhat531
@thewhat531 3 жыл бұрын
wildzwaan do you have a link to those files? For educational purposes.
@internetwonderbuilder4741
@internetwonderbuilder4741 3 жыл бұрын
@@wildzwaan bahahahahha!
@samuel88andrews
@samuel88andrews 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny how everyone falls for the old cut up hide trick. Even the English fell for it with the vikings at York.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 3 жыл бұрын
Its in at least two other videos I've made. Textbook
@samuel88andrews
@samuel88andrews 3 жыл бұрын
@@VoicesofthePast it's probably the most intelligent way to do a land grab in history. It may not produce much land but it's enough for a small city of the era, enough to gain a foothold and then start doing goon shit with the boys.
@chrisbirch6513
@chrisbirch6513 3 жыл бұрын
How much land can it surround? Does anyone have an estimate?
@Tomevone
@Tomevone 3 жыл бұрын
What’s that trick?
@michaelmichaelson2014
@michaelmichaelson2014 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbirch6513 Not a mathematician, but I'm thinking if you had a fairly large hide of say 2m by 2m, then you could cut into half-centimeter strips to get about 800m worth of strips, which in a perfect circle would give you 12 acres of land. Of course it would take a long time to do, and you'd probably lose some length from tying it together, but still quite a bit, about 10 football fields worth.
@anakinvader9120
@anakinvader9120 2 жыл бұрын
After hearing how both were friendly with each other at first and laughed together despite language barrier, it makes me even more sad that Things went south for the Natives. Greed always ruins everything
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 2 жыл бұрын
The Dutch seem to have had better skills in diplomacy in these types of encounters each time I read out something like this.
@angelot1549
@angelot1549 2 жыл бұрын
and nothing has changed we still go to war for money/oil
@evictcalifornia2141
@evictcalifornia2141 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelot1549 resources will always be at the forefront of any war. Resources being people, food, energy, water, and weapons just to name a few things.
@skeletorlikespotatoes7846
@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 2 жыл бұрын
It was also bad for the Europeans stop portraying everything as one sided
@anakinvader9120
@anakinvader9120 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 How tf is this portrayed as one sided? Literally said it was great to see them be friendly. Learn to read snowflake
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 3 жыл бұрын
It's really important to note that of all the North American native cultures, those near the Hudson were probably best equipped to understand what was happening. The Iroquois Confederacy was a very advanced civilization with settlements and farming. They weren't the stereotype of Native Americans most people think of, and they would have understood that the strange men were just members of another nation-state.
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 3 жыл бұрын
@Tina Draper that was more the tribes west of the Mississippi, the Iroquois had settlements with longhouses made of timber. Picture Vikings with stone tools.
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Ryan That isn't true at all. Many tribes were nomadic and followed migrating game, gathering fruits and vegetables along the way as they found them. Some lived along the coast and large rivers, changing location depending on the season. Even the tribes that had permanent or semi permanent settlements didn't have very large ones. Except the Iroquois, who had settlements of hundreds of individuals. The name literally means "People of the Longhouse"
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Ryan Most of the examples given were cultures that existed before European contact, which is fairly irrelevant to the topic at hand.
@crimsonlightbinder
@crimsonlightbinder 3 жыл бұрын
@Braulio N'dre bla bla, "white man bad" bla bla. Were you there when they first met? Did they keep records of what transpired? The way you are taught that the natives were these naive babies which lived happily in total bliss is such bullshit. For one, why do you give them this aura of naivity? Are you a bit racist? Do you nkow what "meat sacrifices" even means, let me spell it for you, it means human sacrifices, that's how advanced they were. Imagine being that guy picked to be sacrificed on the whims of some tribal chief
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 3 жыл бұрын
​@ThirdEyeOpen Shinhan say please
@FOLIPE
@FOLIPE 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the letter of Pero Vaz de Caminha, actually written upon first contact between brazilian natives and the portuguese, might be interesting for the channel.
@Wallguardian
@Wallguardian 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please make it happen!
@rribfaria1
@rribfaria1 3 жыл бұрын
web.archive.org/web/20160418042209/blogs.uoregon.edu/summerinstitute2013/files/2013/05/The-Letter-of-Pero-Vaz-de-Caminha-21jx6cx.pdf In English
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 3 жыл бұрын
Excelent idea!
@MrZekinhaluiz
@MrZekinhaluiz 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's amazing. I love the part about the "vergonhas" that no one thought of hiding.
@MrZekinhaluiz
@MrZekinhaluiz 3 жыл бұрын
@PavlovsBitch what? Did you use crack?
@Taospark
@Taospark 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most epic recounting of chugging liquor I've ever heard.
@boxhed95
@boxhed95 3 жыл бұрын
He was scared shitless of offending the redcoat.
@quadeevans6484
@quadeevans6484 3 жыл бұрын
@Rowan Melton you gotta understand that native americans didnt have alcohol tolerance due to it not being part of their diet
@chicawhappa
@chicawhappa 3 жыл бұрын
@Rowan Melton and for anyone confused, squash means flavored-juice-concentrate / sherbet, not a mashed-vegetable.
@kukuri007
@kukuri007 3 жыл бұрын
@@quadeevans6484 There were peoples all through the America’ who produced alcoholic beverages. Granted most were not as powerful usually as what the Euros were packing. Ouzo probably would have been fatal on the spot. Haha.
@rovertrobert3180
@rovertrobert3180 3 жыл бұрын
@@quadeevans6484 actually a physiological issue. They cant process the sugars. Same with many asian cultures
@joecook5689
@joecook5689 3 жыл бұрын
I was taught at university that some cultures saw waterways or oceans as a road, some cultures saw it as a barrier.
@mooilife2497
@mooilife2497 3 жыл бұрын
And some people drink it. My tribe drinks it. Makes for nice survival juice.
@joecook5689
@joecook5689 3 жыл бұрын
@@mooilife2497 haha. I meant to say waterway or ocean
@joecook5689
@joecook5689 3 жыл бұрын
@Benghali In Platforms they didn't. Just saying what a doctor of history said.
@erwina4738
@erwina4738 5 ай бұрын
The smarter cultures saw waterways and oceans as a road.
@Zodroo_Tint
@Zodroo_Tint 4 ай бұрын
Don't believe everything what they teach you at university!
@Kaikon_S
@Kaikon_S 3 жыл бұрын
I remember visiting a museum in virginia, maybe DC, while I was on a history trip in high school. (I'm from Utah) I read an account of a native that described his first impression of a European ship as "a large canoe with white wings"
@ezandman6804
@ezandman6804 3 жыл бұрын
The Utah tribe is also fascinating. They talk about golden plates, dress weird (sorry no offense), some live in strange groups with one male chief at the head and only female servants at his side and lots of children. I read that their great leader was from the star Kolob far away. You must be familiar with that tribe, I read they are pretty big in Utah. You consider them dangerous? Greets from Netherlands. :-)
@FunFilmFare
@FunFilmFare 3 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you were at the National Museum of the American Indian in DC ?
@Kaikon_S
@Kaikon_S 3 жыл бұрын
@@FunFilmFare That sounds right, been 3 years plus bad memory. Great experience! I'm sad I don't recall more... Given the opportunity I'd love to go again.
@Kaikon_S
@Kaikon_S 3 жыл бұрын
@@ezandman6804 Lol, idk if you're serious about them being a native tribe? Since your from overseas I'll give you the benefit of the doubt 😂 What you are referring to is the Mormon church (A.k.a. Church of Latter day saints) and their more "traditional" communities/members. The Golden tablets, said to be found by Joseph Smith in New York (founder of the LDS) were used to write the book of Mormon (their bible). You mention many women to one man, that's practice of Polygamy. It used to be normal for mormons long time ago but I've never seen a polygamist here as it is very uncommon nowadays. Though I'd say it stands true that mormons, usually, have a lot of kids. I don't think Mormons are dangerous, certainly not LGBTQ friendly for the most part, but not dangerous. Just another religion based around Christ. As far as actual Native Americans in Utah though, our tribes consisted mostly of Shoshone, Ute, Goshute, Paiute, and a little Navajo. The LDS, gold plates, and such came with Western colonization of the area in the 1800's, hence why I don't consider them a "tribe" certainly not natives. I'm not Mormon though my knowledge is just patch work I've picked up having been raised here.
@ezandman6804
@ezandman6804 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaikon_S ...it was a (poor) joke I guess, sorry. I am a bit familiar with mormonism. I read about that stuff AND they sent missionairies to my country . They have their own church building in my city in the Netherlands. They all wear the same strange clothes so it is easily to spot one in the crowds. When I see one I sometimes hail them with " Yo , Utah!" most of the time they think that is funny. But now that I think about it they only send males (elders?). THank you very much for your reply. :-) :-)
@Chikanuk
@Chikanuk 3 жыл бұрын
You may be interesting in russian ambassadors and travelers latters, ones what was made shortly after end of mongol yoke. Before this Russian states was restricted by mongols from independed diplomacy and after its end they "rediscover" Europe. Or, maybe in opposite - europeans who travel in Russia. Later ones is more available for westerner i guess. Dunno if russian ones was translater, but they are indeed really cool and interesting, again - different perspective.
@JoinMeInDeathBaby
@JoinMeInDeathBaby 3 жыл бұрын
+1
@paulbadman8509
@paulbadman8509 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear about Russian Conquest of Siberia.
@BrettonFerguson
@BrettonFerguson 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I would also like to see a video on the 1320 Declaration of Arbroath.
@suem6004
@suem6004 3 жыл бұрын
I could translate
@ilyatsukanov8707
@ilyatsukanov8707 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulbadman8509 If you know Russian, I would recommend work by Siberia scholar Н.И. Никитин, including his famous textbook for school children "Освоение Сибири в XVII веке". It goes into a bit of detail about why Russians weren't so genocidal toward their natives compared to the Western Europeans, especially the British.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 3 жыл бұрын
The Native Americans had a very interesting way of looking at the Europeans.
@lalitabhandari3973
@lalitabhandari3973 3 жыл бұрын
Had this gesture been reciprocated in true sense, the story would have been different I guess
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 3 жыл бұрын
@@lalitabhandari3973---Maybe.
@savioblanc
@savioblanc 3 жыл бұрын
It literally for them was like viewing aliens
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 3 жыл бұрын
@@lalitabhandari3973 we are lucky it wasn't. or we wouldn't be as great and strong as we are today
@aleccope1320
@aleccope1320 3 жыл бұрын
@Nigg** is to blacks as Racist is to whites grew up on a reservation, council members and chairpersons are just memes in a lot of Indian country for the wrong reasons
@tamamatu6395
@tamamatu6395 3 жыл бұрын
My country has a really cool name for white people. We call white people sky breakers (palagi) Cause my ancestors thought the sky was torn apart when they saw the sail of European ships. While we just call black people black (uli) and we call all Asians China (Saina) (except for Indian we call them Indians).
@TheMauviet
@TheMauviet 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, it would make a cool name for a space craft, I hope spaceX or nasa pick up on that.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 3 жыл бұрын
What country is it.
@tamamatu6395
@tamamatu6395 3 жыл бұрын
@@belstar1128 Samoa. It's in the Pacific
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader 3 жыл бұрын
Indians call White people Firangi because they went all over the world. Edit: Apparently I was wrong. Firangi is based on the corruption of the words for Franks. My hindi teacher misled me
@lidyseinen
@lidyseinen 3 жыл бұрын
In west africa they call “ white “ people : “tubab” a kind of africanising of : two bucks .( coins)
@Hanakowasright
@Hanakowasright 3 жыл бұрын
A floating house, well if you are out to sea for months at a time, its pretty close
@SaintJames14
@SaintJames14 3 жыл бұрын
This. More accurate imo than "big canoe"
@GeoffreyBronson
@GeoffreyBronson 3 жыл бұрын
*Brave warrior takes the first glass of wine, bids his people farewell, drinks it, staggers, falls asleep and then jumps up saying that it's the best thing he's ever had and asks for more* Hilarious and pretty adorable
@S1lverspike
@S1lverspike 3 жыл бұрын
They knew exactly what they were doing giving them fire water. Look at what the British did when the wanted to get their hands on Hong Kong. Got an entire country hooked on opium from they colonies in India
@GeoffreyBronson
@GeoffreyBronson 3 жыл бұрын
@@S1lverspike I'm British and today is my birthday, no joke. No regrets for the work of my ancestors it's the greatest string of practical jokes and banter the world has ever seen.
@godofcows4649
@godofcows4649 2 жыл бұрын
@@S1lverspike Idk man, the whole navy of europe was addicted to rum, literally couldn't function without some form of alcohol. I doubt that was a 4d chest play on their part and more of a courtious thing.
@StockyDude
@StockyDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@S1lverspike You’re confusing 2 very different periods of history. In the late 1500’s, the British Empire was not yet a superpower (that wouldn’t occur until the end of the 7 Years War). In the late 1500’s, Capt. Hudson and his crew were primarily looking for a Northwest passage to help the British reach India. North America was not yet considered a prize by the British crown.
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto Жыл бұрын
@@S1lverspike Yeah, they knew they were toasting their first contact. Why would the Europeans expect some alcohol to affect Americans any differently than it affected Europeans?
@lonnieclemens8028
@lonnieclemens8028 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to go back in time and to observe these events in person.
@richardgrant2948
@richardgrant2948 Жыл бұрын
Hello Lonnie, how are you doing today, how’s everything going over there 👉 hope your day is blessed 😇 Lonnie?
@ibnnader8373
@ibnnader8373 Жыл бұрын
fr fr
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 9 ай бұрын
Like going back to tell Jewish merchants: return those slaves to Africa! You know what you bring, and it's the plague on us all, for your benefit.
@amzztv04
@amzztv04 5 ай бұрын
Ikr! It would be beyond fascinating...even though it may be gruesome at some parts.
@user-rf3cn2ou3x
@user-rf3cn2ou3x 4 ай бұрын
I wish I could go back with today's knowledge, Unite the tribes , and stop what happened before it even started.
@duckyDz
@duckyDz 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most relaxing channel....and you still learn something
@ephraimrodriguez4594
@ephraimrodriguez4594 3 жыл бұрын
“Someone make a note of that mans bravery”
@Harry-nn4px
@Harry-nn4px 3 жыл бұрын
It is hard to believe that even after several millennia, the indigenous peoples of North America did not stumble upon natural Fermentation.
@rootbeer4888
@rootbeer4888 3 жыл бұрын
they never played civ...
@zestytest
@zestytest 3 жыл бұрын
They did it was called Indian ice cream . It was made by the Pacific Northwest Indians with some wild berry , it was eaten like soup .
@ififif31
@ififif31 3 жыл бұрын
The indigenous people of Mexico (also part of North America) were drinking alcoholic beverages (e.g. pulque) long before any Europeans stepped foot in the Americas.
@Harry-nn4px
@Harry-nn4px 3 жыл бұрын
@@ififif31 And then the white man introduced them to Tequila, Mezcal and Marijuana.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 3 жыл бұрын
you're all missing his point, yes while individual tribes did discover fermentation none of them had booze like the west. its astounding that someone could exist for so long and not figure out basic shit like that
@cecilstehelin1277
@cecilstehelin1277 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how the Dutch copied Dido’s trick from the founding of Carthage with the whole cutting up the bull skin hide to mark land. Good grifts last forever!
@Slokkatron
@Slokkatron 3 жыл бұрын
Even Ivar the Boneless used the same trick with King Aelle in the Saga of Ragnar Lothbrok. :D
@davidkelly4210
@davidkelly4210 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the reaction was just 'well played'.
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it
@nopespray3724
@nopespray3724 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanlevesque7812 read a book and get a job
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 3 жыл бұрын
@@nopespray3724 oh look, an idiot who thinks his words mean something me
@xaviermichael-young5062
@xaviermichael-young5062 Жыл бұрын
Awww, Wanishita!!!! thank you so much for gifting me a voice of my ancestors. Ni Lenape, I’m Delaware lenape Indian from Oklahoma. If anybody is curious, the word the source used as manitou (pronounced maw-ni-too) translates to spirit and spirits. There are many different types of manitou, and btw the tribe still has a couple drinking party’s every now and then. Unfortunately all the land theft out east eventually pushed us into the Great Lakes, and then south to Oklahoma today, but we’re working on it!
@dajiedkynsai1669
@dajiedkynsai1669 Жыл бұрын
Sadly genocide plays along..
@gillsejusbates6938
@gillsejusbates6938 Жыл бұрын
@@dajiedkynsai1669 we should have wiped the world when we had the chance, greetings from EU
@maxencebarre3833
@maxencebarre3833 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for my curiosity, but do you still speak lenape language ? Also you I remark that you have a french name, how did it happen ? Thanks you.
@KayKay114
@KayKay114 Ай бұрын
My province is actually named after this word. Manitoba. Although it's more towards Ojibway and Cree. Ojibway is the closest sounding one to how you say it here. Man-ih-to-bah I'm actually a rare mix of Ojibway and Sioux, nice to meet you! 😊
@ericcloud1023
@ericcloud1023 3 жыл бұрын
History Time is already an amazing channel, but with this one you've earned so much of my praise! You brothers are golden ಥ‿ಥ It's so beautiful seeing true passion for history
@ayrton56612
@ayrton56612 3 жыл бұрын
Wish it would have stayed to getting drunk together.
@ryv2484
@ryv2484 Жыл бұрын
“They did not wish to contend with them about a little land, as they had still enough themselves.” 🙁
@adamdavenport8009
@adamdavenport8009 3 жыл бұрын
"It must be a very large house floating on the sea." Well, they weren't entirely wrong.
@sincityquinn
@sincityquinn 3 жыл бұрын
Finally something from the perspective of the natives. I would like to hear it directly from them, though.
@dbptown8339
@dbptown8339 3 жыл бұрын
Boi stop. The natives did not look like this. Even Columbus said so in his journal
@DarthLetalis
@DarthLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
“Finally something from the perspective of natives”;Just wanted to let you know there’s hundreds upon hundreds of books available to read on the subject. Literally more books than you could read in a lifetime. KZfaq videos can’t replace a good book.
@lakotawinyan483
@lakotawinyan483 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbptown8339 The colonist Columbus said we were copper toned people and unlike the Ethiopians. Long straight course black hair.
@dbptown8339
@dbptown8339 3 жыл бұрын
@@lakotawinyan483 not unlike
@lakotawinyan483
@lakotawinyan483 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbptown8339 Maybe do more research before speaking on history you clearly don't know and weren't passed down from tribal ancestors! you are on youtube. Go look at some tribes listen to their stories, go read the report Columbus wrote about Indigenous people here and the Indigenous people of the Caribbean, go look at what the other "explorers" and colonist said .. Look at the Comanche, Lakota, Cheyenne, Apache, cree... and the 550 plus other tribes. (we have same eye shape, same hair, we come in different skin tones, We have the same nose, laugh lines, high cheek bones)-my tribe (Lakota) has Incan shaped skulls.. .I'm sorry you are going through an identity crisis but don't try and steal from my peoples culture because you are confused on what you are and where you came from.. Their was black natives in North America, unfortunately they were the slaves of the Cherokee, choctaw, seminole, chickasaw and creek. (they were purchased from white slave owners) And for the other tribes that did not enslave people, did start mixing and having babies with black men and women therefore creating a mixed race..
@oskardelitz5651
@oskardelitz5651 3 жыл бұрын
I can't drink my tea cuz the image of these native dudes getting drunk makes me smile too much
@alexgoogleplus3779
@alexgoogleplus3779 3 жыл бұрын
You should go to a modern day native reservation then alcoholism is rampant there.
@OddZodd
@OddZodd 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexgoogleplus3779 its rampant pretty much everywhere
@user-gu5xx5le2j
@user-gu5xx5le2j 3 жыл бұрын
Found the white person (😂 I jest, I just find your naivety cute)
@Skoden_lures
@Skoden_lures 3 жыл бұрын
@Sang Man Don't forget forced sterilization, missing and murder women and girls. The genocide never stops but we are still here.
@alexgoogleplus3779
@alexgoogleplus3779 3 жыл бұрын
@Level Nine Drow @owenlol2 Alcoholism is disproportionately rampant in Native American communities, pointing out that it happens in other places is kind of obvious, that is true of most things so I don't know why you bothered. Theres a lot of studies on this fact but this site sums it up pretty well. americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/native-americans Thats why I pointed it out because although the video is perhaps comedic on its face there is a much darker background between Europeans and Native americans exchanging alcohol. In any case, some people pointed this history out in the comments above.
@lewis7315
@lewis7315 3 жыл бұрын
It must be noted here that in the Plymouth area the closest native tribe to the settlement made a military alliance with the Pilgrims because the Pilgrims has guns swords... This gave advantage to that tribe for that generation... the young indian men of the next generation saw the danger the whites posed to them and King Philips war resulted...
@JCSAXON
@JCSAXON 3 жыл бұрын
The poetry of the rope at the end is quite impressive. Thanks
@DanielPaprocki
@DanielPaprocki 3 жыл бұрын
It's even more interesting to hear how navies perceived Europeans 🤔😄
@storrho
@storrho 3 жыл бұрын
Ships do indeed tend to have interesting views on these matters.
@planetkc
@planetkc 3 жыл бұрын
Well I believe a destroyer did what it did best.
@tyrelllyons6963
@tyrelllyons6963 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what an aircraft carrier’s thoughts are
@supercarnitas
@supercarnitas 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed navies are full of interesting human accounts
@choughed3072
@choughed3072 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyrelllyons6963 I've heard they are the same as the frigates.
@SuperSoFlow
@SuperSoFlow Жыл бұрын
The beginning of 'give an inch, they take a mile'
@bjovers1
@bjovers1 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are small, yet amazing glimses into the past. Brilliant.
@caroldelaney4700
@caroldelaney4700 3 жыл бұрын
A ship is really just a floating house .incredible words come alive from the past long gone
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 3 жыл бұрын
It floats for transport though
@charlesfuentes3695
@charlesfuentes3695 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Apocalyto, the sighting of the 3 ships in the end. It was as if they saw a UFO. Imagine being there when it happened. Astounding.
@highonlife2323
@highonlife2323 2 жыл бұрын
if I could go back in time for any period it would be during the Pax Romana but if I could go back in time to observe just one specific event, I would see the first European and Native American contact. how insane it would be
@josephrichards1396
@josephrichards1396 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: New York used to be called New Amsterdam as the Dutch got there before the British/English
@supernice8887
@supernice8887 3 жыл бұрын
Sad that the Dutch had to close down all the coffeeshops, when the British took over ....
@jesperburns
@jesperburns 3 жыл бұрын
And they sold it to get a monopoly on spice, specifically nutmeg.
@nielswereldchannel
@nielswereldchannel 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I have Dutch heritage my self and it is very interesting to learn more about the history of the Dutch and there rol in early America.
@salfromtheval_xx7
@salfromtheval_xx7 2 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of "if they did this or that, they wouldn't have gone extinct", "they'd still be here" We ARE...STILL HERE ✊ We'll always be here.
@saucelord780
@saucelord780 Жыл бұрын
What nation are you from?
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 3 жыл бұрын
I just love this channel. Great investigative work. Unfortunately I have to limit how many channels I support. I am not that rich.
@rexmundi3108
@rexmundi3108 3 жыл бұрын
It's like if aliens landed here now.
@197615july
@197615july 3 жыл бұрын
They're already here.(not the little green man you're thinking about) You would be surprised too know the truth. It's Just like in this story.
@mikediamond353
@mikediamond353 3 жыл бұрын
In a type of craft we've never even thought about
@197615july
@197615july 3 жыл бұрын
@Graf von Losinj the crazy has already started, no?
@197615july
@197615july 3 жыл бұрын
@Graf von Losinj next year! It can't be stopped, unless!
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 3 жыл бұрын
I for one welcome our new Manitou overlords.
@arte0021
@arte0021 3 жыл бұрын
The indians had no idea that the strange visitors would be their doom
@Tom_Cruise_Missile
@Tom_Cruise_Missile Жыл бұрын
Well not these strangers per se.
@vishalSharma-ol9fl
@vishalSharma-ol9fl 3 жыл бұрын
Love these. Can you do one with the letters of British when they first encountered the uncontacted tribe on North Sentinalese island on Andaman and Nicobar. The ones who were in news earlier this year cos of that missionary.
@rashidabdul5429
@rashidabdul5429 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why in Malay there is a proverb that said "bagai belanda minta tanah" meaning like a dutch asking for a land.
@lukewilliams7027
@lukewilliams7027 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that your accent has a bit of West Country in it. An example is when your i's become subtle oi's. You sound like an early American explorer. It's very cool!
@ishxyzaak
@ishxyzaak 3 жыл бұрын
its actually the british who changed their accents, not the americans
@mikesaunders4775
@mikesaunders4775 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishxyzaak The 'British' that is a massive generalisation. The accents of Northumbria, Yorkshire and the Lake District have remained almost the same as before the Norman Conquest. The more rhotic sounding accents of southern and central England only receded into the West Country in the latter half of the twentieth century, under the influence of a media driven onslaught of London English and the contrivance we know as RP. The American accent derives far more from the speech of the 'Scotch-Irish' than that of (very) early English settlers.It was these people who first settled in Appalachia and beyond,carrying their accent , customs ( eg Halloween),and Presbyterian religion with them.
@DanJM14
@DanJM14 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishxyzaak that’s completely not true. Both diverged and evolved.
@politicalspectrum7523
@politicalspectrum7523 3 жыл бұрын
The history is narrated by the winner
@ghostlylove1246
@ghostlylove1246 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, as a Mexican I definitely agree. If history was told by the other side, you’ve better believe it would have been much different.
@alangervasis
@alangervasis 3 жыл бұрын
Ok please give us the story from the otherside if they knew how to write.
@patio87
@patio87 3 жыл бұрын
There is no history if you're not advanced enough to record it.
@chilidoghog
@chilidoghog Ай бұрын
@@alangervasis They did, do you think invading Europeans would leave these accounts just sitting there, they even knew what they did was wrong, that's why they destroyed most of the ones they weren't happy with, also it's written in a language that most can't understand, especially Europeans, they wouldn't know how to read it and would destroy it most likely, like Europeans have even done to other countries in Europe in the past.
@chilidoghog
@chilidoghog Ай бұрын
@@patio87 They did, what history would really change with their culture, they chose to live that way for thousands of years, it was apart of their culture to give to the land, be one with it, and it will provide back. Besides, I guess you don't know about what happens to the accounts of the side that lost against Europeans or anybody in the old world. Even Europeans burned accounts of another country, town, or village in other European Countries. You were just easily fooled enough by the victor to show how destroying those accounts affects one's viewpoint, you're basically like a living psychological experiment almost, just not bright enough to see the actual picture is all.
@cmw184
@cmw184 3 жыл бұрын
Insane i get to hear a native mans account over 400 years after his time. Amazing.
@spking4149
@spking4149 7 ай бұрын
The story of the hide being cut into strips was told by many American Indian tribes in different versions. It was a fable to describe what had really happened in a relatable way
@chavamara
@chavamara 3 жыл бұрын
The Dutch did a Queen Dido! But when they were given an inch, they took a mile.
@jeanbethencourt1506
@jeanbethencourt1506 3 жыл бұрын
A mile of dildo?! Gross!
@Ishyona
@Ishyona 3 жыл бұрын
I don't blame them for being hesitant to drink suspicious liquid after the Viking milk incident.
@Dooksterr
@Dooksterr 3 жыл бұрын
Tysm i needed this for an exam
@galaxydiscounters3344
@galaxydiscounters3344 3 жыл бұрын
You narrate a wonderful true story my brother :)
@erenerdonmez34
@erenerdonmez34 3 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how similar the story of the wine is to the forbidden fruit that sent humans into earth as we know it.
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 3 жыл бұрын
I think "boat" would be a better translation or term than "canoe". Because canoe or kanawa just meant boat in one of the native languages (namely Carib). Therefore the ship would be described as a large boat, not necessarily a large "canoe" which has a foreign and specific connotation to us listeners. I think that's how the natives described the ship in the end, just a large boat.
@didntknoicouldchangethis
@didntknoicouldchangethis 3 жыл бұрын
This channel never disappoints👍
@richardgrant2948
@richardgrant2948 Жыл бұрын
Hello Katie, how are you doing today, how’s everything going over there 👉 hope your day is blessed 😇 Katie?
@catcrapinahat
@catcrapinahat 3 жыл бұрын
I like the dude who took the first drink of the alcohol, he was like "peace out y'all, if I die tell my wife I love her" then he was bestowed the gift of "getting twisted" and thus the indians were forever infected with the GET LIT virus.
@erichvondonitz5325
@erichvondonitz5325 2 жыл бұрын
*chugs wine* *wakes up* YO THIS SHIT IS LIT *gets shit faced*
@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522
@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 3 жыл бұрын
Drinking alcohol for the first time... hmmm...
@VincentGonzalezVeg
@VincentGonzalezVeg 3 жыл бұрын
The people Eat carbs and produce ethanol within their body, autofermentation This is why maize is a part of the meal
@v.e.7236
@v.e.7236 3 жыл бұрын
No, this wasn't their first encounter w/ alcohol, as they had things similar to beer (although generally weak by today's standards) and other naturally occurring fermented beverages. Alcohol has been around for a very long time, ~6000 BC or earlier. This was merely their introduction to good wine. lol
@espanadorada7962
@espanadorada7962 3 жыл бұрын
@@VincentGonzalezVeg eating maize does not get you drunk bud
@kathryncarter6143
@kathryncarter6143 3 жыл бұрын
All is fun & games until the wars start
@aidancanoli
@aidancanoli 3 жыл бұрын
@@v.e.7236 lmaoo
@amonaten13
@amonaten13 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing your interpretation of indigenous perspectives is always a pleasure. More stories from North American Natives please! There are some great stories from the plains! Custer's men "discovering" the Black Hills has some great journals!
@mecanopasensa660
@mecanopasensa660 3 жыл бұрын
Such a nice tale to be told to Children, before falling to sleep.
@johanyousef1951
@johanyousef1951 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have transcripts with your videos or subtitles for those of us who have hearing impairments?
@thorpeaaron1110
@thorpeaaron1110 3 жыл бұрын
Voices of the Past can do a video on the Grito De Dolores or Cry of Dolores which Mexican priest Father Miguel Hidalgo said on September 16,1810 calling for Mexican independence from Spain
@mrs.g.9816
@mrs.g.9816 3 жыл бұрын
The First Americans seeing that ship - Must have been as scary as if we Earthlings would see a real UFO landing and discharging its occupants. Knowing how history turned out, I would have been terrified myself.
@kathryncarter6143
@kathryncarter6143 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, how very very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@blokblok2009
@blokblok2009 3 жыл бұрын
And that is a sad story about not being able to share from the beginning 😞
@hazielgarcia5700
@hazielgarcia5700 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about the native perspective of when the Vikings arrived
@notesscrotes4360
@notesscrotes4360 3 жыл бұрын
Such a nice story. They were so friendly with each other until power entered the equation.
@dragonofthewest8305
@dragonofthewest8305 3 жыл бұрын
Very sad if the world was smart they would let go of their pride and ego and give America and Australia back to native people but society is too foolish and would prefer pride and ego instead of doing what is most sensible for all racial groups which ultimately will keep this chaotic world going on
@Bintzak
@Bintzak 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonofthewest8305 World history we know is maybe 2000 years old mankind is older than 200.000 years. War and stealing country’s from natives happend more than we can imagine. If you want to give land back to the Natives almost all man have to go back to the cradle of the first born human in the world. Just give natives more power in the politics and solve modern day problems. Like modern slavery/ healthcare/housing/peace
@ShotsMerkzAll
@ShotsMerkzAll 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you give your house away to a native person for free? You’re the one offering it. Now you know who the fool is
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 3 жыл бұрын
It was greed.
@NYCITY3
@NYCITY3 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the powerful weapon was guns.
@ericrotsinger9729
@ericrotsinger9729 3 жыл бұрын
Best KZfaq of the day.
@landocalrissian5613
@landocalrissian5613 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video
@yarilolz
@yarilolz 3 жыл бұрын
The natives and Aztecs both had the same conclusions when it came to the ships appearing. This only makes think that if there is any aliens. They are from earth.
@197615july
@197615july 3 жыл бұрын
Yes there is, but they are aliens too earth! Just like this story.
@Birb728
@Birb728 3 жыл бұрын
@UCJK_DcUO-PD0YDeKhbQ-jsg there no west or east of a globe. (Apparently he deleted his comment.)
@robertsothmann8110
@robertsothmann8110 3 жыл бұрын
@@Birb728 different dimension?
@user-ii3zs2gr6u
@user-ii3zs2gr6u 3 жыл бұрын
Natives: Are you guys gods? Europeans: What? What blasphemy, of course not. Natives: We will give you many gifts and great honour! Europeans: ... Ok, we're gods.
@197615july
@197615july 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ii3zs2gr6u Sons of God!
@origami83
@origami83 3 жыл бұрын
This video made me smile at first but sad in the end. No one could have stopped progress but i wish it didnt had come at the expensive of so much suffering for the native americans.
@origami83
@origami83 3 жыл бұрын
@Jasta 2 I fail to see what point you are trying to make.
@origami83
@origami83 3 жыл бұрын
@Jasta 2 These 2 things are hardly comparable and 1 tragedy doesnt diminish another.
@MasterKeyMagic
@MasterKeyMagic 6 ай бұрын
genocide is not progress
@sarahangeleski2027
@sarahangeleski2027 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely content and much appreciated. (Btw, it's "for my brother and me" and "my brother and I like history". You wouldn't say "bring that to I" or "give I a hug" -- the same goes for any construction using for, with, between, without, to.)
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh few people have mentioned that. Still, that's just how I says it.
@YackYum
@YackYum 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would be very interested in something like this for first Spanish contact with the Inca's of Peru.
@alonsotello4415
@alonsotello4415 3 жыл бұрын
You can read the Chronicles of Peru by Pedro Cieza de León for the spaniard point of view and An Inca account of the conquest of Peru by the Inca Titu Cusi Yupanqui for the native perspective
@apollocobain8363
@apollocobain8363 3 жыл бұрын
The events described here happen 80 years after the French have settled on the coast of Maine / Halifax. When Hudson got to Maine in 1609 the natives spoke French to him.
@TobbeStorm
@TobbeStorm 2 жыл бұрын
And long after the actual first encounter with Europeans, which were Vikings from Scandinavia. Good video, but nonetheless is it historically inaccurate
@Johnnyapplseed6582
@Johnnyapplseed6582 2 жыл бұрын
This account is from THIS native persons first encounter with Europeans. It is not stating that this was the first encounter of indigenous and Europeans in ALL of the Western Hemisphere. Thus, neither the title nor the information in the video is historically inaccurate.
@waso778
@waso778 Жыл бұрын
Hudson went on Dutch flag not English.
@apollocobain8363
@apollocobain8363 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnnyapplseed6582 The story in the voiceover is told by Jon Heckewelder as his version of what was told to him. Heckewelder records this story around 1770 but, if the story refers to Hudson and not Verrazano, the story refers to September of 1609 -- 161 years prior. That is clearly more than one generation so at best this is a missionaries interpretation of an orally relayed story that had to pass through about 4 generations. A story with that provenance is surely corrupted. The indigenous people of Manhattan island were very familiar with visitors from distant parts of the earth for example the Taino who came from the area which is now Venezuela on a regular basis. Taino people intermixed with people near modern day Wappingers NY around 1000 BCE and again around 1300 CE. Beans were introduced to the NY area around 1300 CE and Taino and other peoples followed the migrations of various animals frequently, perhaps even annually. Contact with Verrazano in 1524 was well known to people of Manhattan island. Hudson records indigenous people on the coast of Maine speaking French which proves they had frequent contact and trade with europeans long before Hudson arrived. Asserting that events and "inventions" are irrefutably "firsts" is something that cautious historians avoid.
@ineffablemars
@ineffablemars 3 жыл бұрын
I like to put myself into their mindset by imagining what it would be like to see a UFO. People would be like "oh it might be a plane or something" but it turns out to be aliens. I feel like this is what it would have been like for them.
@Tempusverum
@Tempusverum 2 жыл бұрын
Do you drink? 🍹👽 Su….. sure…. 😵‍💫😵
@thenaturalhuman9568
@thenaturalhuman9568 2 жыл бұрын
The details make it seem a very accurate account
@iammaxhailme
@iammaxhailme 3 жыл бұрын
Can you link to that old Dutch map of New York that is showing at the end?
@fandangofonteinskalita1333
@fandangofonteinskalita1333 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and thank you for representing the native americans
@walterwhite8229
@walterwhite8229 3 жыл бұрын
Yoo, when will you make a video on Vijayanagara empire? As I said that the Portuguese traveller left some interesting doccuments which would be great for a video!
@ancilodon
@ancilodon 3 жыл бұрын
Chief Uzita's message (as relayed by his runner) to Hernando de Soto is rather interesting also.
@arrionemiller5571
@arrionemiller5571 3 жыл бұрын
How do I tell another person's storyline with out them or their members available .
@j53iliff2
@j53iliff2 3 жыл бұрын
What is this based off? Is there an historical document with this level of detail from both sides?
@BloomerMindset
@BloomerMindset 3 жыл бұрын
"Taken from 'History, manners, and customs of the Indian nations who once inhabited Pennsylvania and the neighboring states' by Heckewelder, John Gottlieb Ernestus, 1743-1823"
@oskardelitz5651
@oskardelitz5651 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is absolutely beautiful to listen to and imagine! You can not help but enjoy the purity and naivety. Feels so human (before it went all downhill also..). Almost makes me wish it was that god like creature, that checks in for a visit on the natives, instead of the europeans..
@htoodoh5770
@htoodoh5770 3 жыл бұрын
God like creature?
@nonautemrexchristus5637
@nonautemrexchristus5637 3 жыл бұрын
It was a shitty time all around
@IvanVT27
@IvanVT27 3 жыл бұрын
Yep cos the indians where "noble savages" who didnt kill each other for a few acres of land or as sacrifice to their gods... Those times where prety dark wherever you where, the difference was that in Europe and the "Civilized" world things where slowly getting better, whilst these people where stuck on the Iron Age. So European colonization was a natural occurrence(just like in nature,the stronger lion takes the weaker ones territory for its resources) if not even beneficial in some sense.
@mikediamond353
@mikediamond353 3 жыл бұрын
"Iron age" might be too kind. The Mohawks had no metal at all, not even ornamental gold or silver. No written language, no concept of the wheel, ideas of the white man increase to destroy all mankind
@beninwarrior4579
@beninwarrior4579 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikediamond353 Why is the wheel important to you people? They had no need for it therefore it wasn't invented. Also every group in Europeans didn't invent the wheel. It was invented in the middle east and spread to europeans. Why is ornamental gold and silver important? They are literally just useless rocks. Lastly written language isn't vital, and besides the greeks, no europeans independently developed written language. Most of western europe wouldn't have written language until the latins, who used a greek inspired script, gave them their script or inspired them to make their own through contact. No Eastern europeans would have a script until the greeks introduced one to them.
@mehdisd3756
@mehdisd3756 3 жыл бұрын
best channel ever
@loszhor
@loszhor 3 жыл бұрын
7:38 9:48 IT BEGINS!~
@yoppindia
@yoppindia 3 жыл бұрын
What a sad story 😢
@tombingham7455
@tombingham7455 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, the story was actually quite light-hearted. I know that you’re saying it’s the ending that stings, however, which I can’t help but concur.
@Scott-tw2jn
@Scott-tw2jn 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more about Dutch explorers since they have been so active in the exploration and mapping of the world not that long ago Dutch was an official language in every continent
@relo999
@relo999 3 жыл бұрын
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
@dragonofthewest8305
@dragonofthewest8305 3 жыл бұрын
Colonisation not Explorers
@relo999
@relo999 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonofthewest8305 Well to be precise, first explore then colonize. Though specifically modern day New York wasn't colonized at all by the Dutch, it was bought. Bought dirt cheaply sure (5 thousand dollars adjusted for inflation) but still bought. Are you colonizing land if you buy a piece of land?
@ezandman6804
@ezandman6804 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for interest. I am from the Netherlands.
@ezandman6804
@ezandman6804 3 жыл бұрын
@@relo999 dude. haal die gekoloniseerd bullshit weg ajb en hou het beetje op nivo zoals je 2de comment. greets
@mightymite3958
@mightymite3958 3 жыл бұрын
And where did you find this first account information?
@manijohal
@manijohal 3 жыл бұрын
The kindness of strangers
@unbeastable957
@unbeastable957 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, how did you know all this? Was it written down?
@SaintJames14
@SaintJames14 3 жыл бұрын
My dad told me
@iammaxhailme
@iammaxhailme 3 жыл бұрын
"Which in the end, proved true" ominous...
@SaintJames14
@SaintJames14 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@kennarajora6532
@kennarajora6532 2 жыл бұрын
the music helps in that manner as well.
@vercot7000
@vercot7000 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaintJames14 based on?
@SaintJames14
@SaintJames14 2 жыл бұрын
@@vercot7000 based on every planet my guy
@thijsmallekote1977
@thijsmallekote1977 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the Dutch play a part in this. At least I love how they played part in the beginning...😅
@chauhanishan
@chauhanishan 3 жыл бұрын
Favorite channel
@SoreThumbSociety
@SoreThumbSociety 3 жыл бұрын
This is like watching someone getting taken for all they own in Vegas. Very unfortunate.
@zmanafacation
@zmanafacation 3 жыл бұрын
@Benghali In Platforms you’re probably the type of person that gets off on nazi propaganda films from the 30’s
@realkekz
@realkekz 3 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting to me to see how the Aztecs immediately jumped to the conclusion that the boats were mountains, and the Europeans were Gods, while the Northern Indian tribes were more logical and reckoned that boats were some manner of vessel or animal and studied how it moved to determine what it was exactly.
@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682
@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682 2 жыл бұрын
That's largely not true.
@realkekz
@realkekz 2 жыл бұрын
@@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682 It is true, me no care what oyu tthinky
@schnoz2372
@schnoz2372 2 жыл бұрын
actually they all knew they were big boats once they saw them up close.
@schnoz2372
@schnoz2372 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the Aztec ever referred to them as gods in any way. They knew they were violent people, especially since they were so violent themselves having cannibalistic rituals and human sacrifice and bloodletting all the time. People back in the day were just generally insane no matter where you went if history is any indication lol
@angelot1549
@angelot1549 2 жыл бұрын
@@schnoz2372 They did they assumed they were gods at start
@stylembonkers1094
@stylembonkers1094 Жыл бұрын
Contrast this with the response of the Australian Aborigines to James Cook's ship in 1770. They looked up from their fishing, saw it, and went back to their fishing without displaying the slightest curiosity.
@shaiaheyes2c41
@shaiaheyes2c41 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@dumindaamila
@dumindaamila 3 жыл бұрын
The same story is said in our history how Portuguese deceived our Kings and acquired a great piece of land to build their fort and how they drank blood and eat stones (wine and bread) how they brought muskets and cannons but difference is after very short while Sinhalese's build muskets far superior to Portuguese and and fought them tooth and nail nearly driving them out of Ceylon and finally with the help of the Dutch getting rid of them !
@acesul8811
@acesul8811 3 жыл бұрын
Your kings? THEIR kings. You were born half a millenia later. You have nothing in common except some DNA, same as the rest of us.
@malformedhabsburg789
@malformedhabsburg789 3 жыл бұрын
@@acesul8811 Would it be the same matter if brits claimed the tudors were their kings?
@leobat7007
@leobat7007 3 жыл бұрын
@@acesul8811 Nope. Ethnic identity is a thing, and quite important. Individuals exist as part of larger groups (families, clans, tribes, nations) whose timeframe is much longer than a human lifespan.
@acesul8811
@acesul8811 3 жыл бұрын
@@malformedhabsburg789 Yes, because House of Tudor is long gone. Elizabeth II is a direct descendent but only on her matrilineal side, and is also not a King. So if you consider matrilineal to still be a Tudor (Brits don't) then there is still a Tudor on the British throne.
@acesul8811
@acesul8811 3 жыл бұрын
@@leobat7007Oh since you consider ethnicity to be so important and precious then you'll happily celebrate Team Whitey discovering and bringing civilization to America. Way to go whitey!
@wargriffin5
@wargriffin5 3 жыл бұрын
@10:25 Oh my God, we're Carthage! ;)
@mattstewie420
@mattstewie420 3 жыл бұрын
very interesting perspective.
@orphydianhistory7822
@orphydianhistory7822 3 жыл бұрын
Around 10:00 and forward when he talks about the land requested and then traced and enclosed by the Dutch what exactly happened ? It's the "height" of the bullet to begin with the word I cannot understand the word clear ?
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