NATO members to start deliveries of F-16 jets to Ukraine, but will there be enough pilots? | DW News

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Kyiv's battlefield position has been largely static for months now. In the coming weeks Ukraine's NATO partners are due to begin delivering the F-16 fighter jets that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been requesting since Russia's invasion.
00:00 Ukraine pilots training on F-16 jets in France
03:12 Interview with Severin Pleyer from the Helmut Schmidt University of the German Armed Forces in Hamburg.
07:14 Interview with Christopher Morris, a member of the Peace, Conflict and Security Research Group at the University of Portsmouth in England
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@martinwinther6013
@martinwinther6013 2 күн бұрын
Real question; where will they stash the planes while grounded?
@jrdsm
@jrdsm 2 күн бұрын
Poland
@dan9002
@dan9002 2 күн бұрын
@@martinwinther6013 reinforced bunkers covered by SAM's
@JC-rr1wu
@JC-rr1wu 2 күн бұрын
Poor attempt, FSB
@martinwinther6013
@martinwinther6013 2 күн бұрын
@@jrdsm and so we just turned Poland into a legit target
@ayushkumar-bg1xf
@ayushkumar-bg1xf Күн бұрын
@@JC-rr1wu says a cia bot
@kevinfidler6287
@kevinfidler6287 3 күн бұрын
More planes than pilots. That isn't a terrible thing. Fighter jets go down for maintenance frequently. In a war zone, 40% readiness will be an accomplishment.
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 3 күн бұрын
You need 3 pilots per airplane. Plus 3 shifts of maintenance personnel. Ukraine has 4 partially trained pilots and 30 maintenance personnel in training. None of them will be ready for combat years.
@Peterclevenger-sx1kh
@Peterclevenger-sx1kh 3 күн бұрын
@@donwyoming1936 Part of what you say is simply incorrect, maybe if it were 30 years ago. Also, Ukraine won't be flying sorties 24 hours a day. The F-16s Ukraine receives will be used in a specific strategic role, given the dynamics of how the war is evolving.
@AbcDino843
@AbcDino843 3 күн бұрын
There's a reason why no air force in the world chooses the model of more planes than pilots.
@ohgeazy
@ohgeazy 3 күн бұрын
@@Peterclevenger-sx1khdid you not watch the video mate?
@ohgeazy
@ohgeazy 3 күн бұрын
@@Peterclevenger-sx1khthey are about to concede
@muratoz2931
@muratoz2931 3 күн бұрын
Putin crying foul again, how dare Ukraine strike back😂
@MrThartofwar
@MrThartofwar 3 күн бұрын
Ukraine is the one crying, all that money and nothing to show for it? Russia is still standing :)
@ninzki143
@ninzki143 3 күн бұрын
Media sure does loves to say “Game Changer” for 2 years now
@ralphpierre9122
@ralphpierre9122 3 күн бұрын
​@@MrThartofwarbarely
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 3 күн бұрын
@@ralphpierre9122 Let's wait year 2025, and see who is barely standing, and who is not standing at all.
@jacobrandall4891
@jacobrandall4891 3 күн бұрын
​@MrThartofwar Russia has not faced a fully equipped opponent ever in its existence. The only time it did, the USSR was about to fail before lend lease saved them
@fredlandry6170
@fredlandry6170 2 күн бұрын
Putin is complaining about International Law are you kidding me?
@bthome123
@bthome123 3 күн бұрын
“To put enough game changers into the mix may mean a change in the game”. Profound.
@daviddixon14
@daviddixon14 3 күн бұрын
Wait for the childish name calling for anyone with an opposing view
@topweddingsa4059
@topweddingsa4059 3 күн бұрын
The last western game-changer before the sending of the Nato army on front... 😂😀😃
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa 3 күн бұрын
Game changer nr. 483!!
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 3 күн бұрын
For a while Macron was talking about sending French troops to Ukraine, and then he announced elections, and no more talk about the French troops. Nor any other country like Baltics or Poland. Poland sending troops into West Ukraine would really make sense. Poland lost territory to Ukraine after WWII. Go in to "protect" it, and never leave, just wait for Ukraine to collapse.
@Rhotz-ix8ll
@Rhotz-ix8ll 3 күн бұрын
@@Nauda999 will be a long wait. I wonder how Putin feels his special military operation is going.
@tnndll4294
@tnndll4294 2 күн бұрын
Only 20+% of promised ammo delivered by EU to Ukraine by end of 2023. this was to appease Russia. but no more.
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa 2 күн бұрын
@@Nauda999 Lviv will be polish!
@knowledge3563
@knowledge3563 3 күн бұрын
there is no game changer
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 Күн бұрын
True, just a constant degradation of Russias war fighting ability.
@jonathanjacob5453
@jonathanjacob5453 Күн бұрын
@@ricardosmythe2548ironically it will just give Russia more experience.
@betsyb2256
@betsyb2256 Күн бұрын
Russia is now thriving. The world Bank just upped their status. War economy the west can't catch up with until 2026. Ukraine is just about out of men There's nothing that will change the fact that NATO miscalculated the entire thing.
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 Күн бұрын
@@betsyb2256 your not deluded much 😂
@billygoat520
@billygoat520 3 күн бұрын
Ithought this training began 6 or 8 months ago.
@PeterLamin-pi6rv
@PeterLamin-pi6rv 3 күн бұрын
Ghost of Kiev.👀🤣🤣🤣🚂🚒
@quartermaster1976
@quartermaster1976 2 күн бұрын
Guardians of snake Island yelling "F U" to the red navy
@curtisedwards885
@curtisedwards885 2 күн бұрын
No it’s been going on for nearly 2 years. It’s just people heard about it not to long ago
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 Күн бұрын
@@curtisedwards885 200 years, F-16s not even planes were invented, and Ghost of Kiev as already training hard, that's why he is invincible.
@odunayooyebade7797
@odunayooyebade7797 3 күн бұрын
Which country’s airfields will they take off from ?
@ryanthompson1981
@ryanthompson1981 3 күн бұрын
Don't worry about it
@odunayooyebade7797
@odunayooyebade7797 3 күн бұрын
@@ryanthompson1981 why not, Are you on the frontlines ?
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ 3 күн бұрын
In theory they should only fly out of a Ukraine loaded with weapons to attack. If they start doing so from NATO airfields, than we're all in trouble. If Russia attacks NATO than we're all in trouble bc that's can only end in a nuclear exchange.
@nenadmitrovic3469
@nenadmitrovic3469 3 күн бұрын
Where ever, they will be targeted
@odunayooyebade7797
@odunayooyebade7797 3 күн бұрын
@@nenadmitrovic3469 you’re right
@univeropa3363
@univeropa3363 3 күн бұрын
No, but that won't stop them.
@derJackistweg
@derJackistweg 2 күн бұрын
whom?
@univeropa3363
@univeropa3363 2 күн бұрын
@@derJackistweg The NATO states won't stop delivering their newest wonder weapon.
@SoBiased
@SoBiased 3 күн бұрын
What an Opera shows
@Secular_Iran_GE
@Secular_Iran_GE 3 күн бұрын
they still wont be game-changer
@VGK4EVER
@VGK4EVER 3 күн бұрын
Good luck, build underground storage
@dmac716
@dmac716 3 күн бұрын
Not expected to be a game changer at all.
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ 3 күн бұрын
If they are as effective as NATO is hoping, they will be a game changer. Russia doesn't control the Ukraininan airspace, but they sure faced few challenges within it. The F16s may well change that. Of course if an F16 shoots down a MIG 29 or an SU 57 over Russian airspace than the game may change.
@nenadmitrovic3469
@nenadmitrovic3469 3 күн бұрын
​@@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ can you cope more? Lets see your understanding of this war. Both planes you think f16 might take down are not used in this war...
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ 2 күн бұрын
@@nenadmitrovic3469 They have used SU57, although indirectly as in not in Ukrainian airspace; which will be another dilema for Ukraine. Do they chase an SU57 into Russian airspace after its launched missiles into Ukraine?
@nenadmitrovic3469
@nenadmitrovic3469 2 күн бұрын
@@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ su 57 was tested few timea and its not used for long time, over a year. They cant chase nothing that much
@GeneralWinter9
@GeneralWinter9 Күн бұрын
If the f-16's go to ukraine then you will force Russia to get air superiority over the 'ukraine' your f-16's will make the situation worse for the 'ukraine'.
@TheBrothersGrim666
@TheBrothersGrim666 3 күн бұрын
Game Changer 😂
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa 3 күн бұрын
yes, THE ABSOLUTE game changer !! Nr. 483 !!
@avex3903
@avex3903 3 күн бұрын
another game changer to make nafo bots happy
@marshalllapenta7656
@marshalllapenta7656 3 күн бұрын
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE
@alberthenriette8976
@alberthenriette8976 3 күн бұрын
They will have no landing place in Ukraine 😂
@quartermaster1976
@quartermaster1976 2 күн бұрын
They'll launch out of Poland
@kashmirha
@kashmirha 3 күн бұрын
I really hate this “what will russia say about this” mentality. We have to send more weapons. Period. For years. And let the ukranoans decide what and how they attack.
@dan9002
@dan9002 3 күн бұрын
It has not helped secure Western Europe with most of the countries being penny-pinching for decades. Praise to Poland and a few others for pushing hard. Time to triple down on military spending.
@la7dfa
@la7dfa 3 күн бұрын
@@dan9002 Yes we have to increase the spending and also support to Ukraine. It is well worth to sacrifice more of our current inventory and send it to the front lines. We also need more "advisors" in Ukraine to operate even more advanced systems. NATO need to take the gloves off and end this.
@Rawdiswar
@Rawdiswar 3 күн бұрын
Go volunteer.
@MrThartofwar
@MrThartofwar 3 күн бұрын
And that is exactly why Russia will eliminate the clear threat, and take more Ukrainian land, Ukraine refuses peaceful negotiations and prefers aggression, that says it all, giving validation to Russia eliminating the Ukrainian threat, like they fully warned they will :)
@la7dfa
@la7dfa 3 күн бұрын
@@MrThartofwar Yes, all Putin wants is Ukraine. Why dont we give it to him, so he does not have to kill 44 million agressive people.
@philu3
@philu3 2 күн бұрын
So after more than a year of being told that F16s were going to be “Game Changers” multiple times a week….we find out that F16s are NOT going to be “Game Changers”….shhhhhocking
@dan9002
@dan9002 2 күн бұрын
@@philu3 The media who are Tabloid keep saying " Game Changers ".
@JC-rr1wu
@JC-rr1wu 2 күн бұрын
No one called the game changers
@philu3
@philu3 2 күн бұрын
@@JC-rr1wu Read the news; Game Changers was synonymous with F16. Two words that should immediately raise suspicion: Game Changer Amazing. The moment you come across them, you know that the author is at best, misguided
@juamu1132
@juamu1132 2 күн бұрын
so who are they training?
@ellabrad3886
@ellabrad3886 22 сағат бұрын
Right. 1 week training. Good bye F-16.
@touchdown8769
@touchdown8769 3 күн бұрын
F16 for ground strike missions, just don't directly engage Russian Su since they have advantage in BVR.
@DavidR-of6nj
@DavidR-of6nj 3 күн бұрын
Is that the au57 that has not been seen inside Ukraine.
@icu17siberia
@icu17siberia 2 күн бұрын
SU's are not replaceable because Russia can't get more computer chips from the US.
@GeneralWinter9
@GeneralWinter9 Күн бұрын
Russia doesn't need your chips to replace anything. How naive can you be?
@DavidR-of6nj
@DavidR-of6nj Күн бұрын
Where in Russia do they produce sub 10nm chips?
@francisezeani166
@francisezeani166 3 күн бұрын
When F16 didn't deliver or been shot down by Russian soldiers you will begin to hear that Ukrainian pilots are not using it well.
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco 3 күн бұрын
russian cope
@Rhotz-ix8ll
@Rhotz-ix8ll 3 күн бұрын
How’s that special military operation going?
@Thejoeviral
@Thejoeviral 3 күн бұрын
@@Rhotz-ix8llhow is stopping houthis in Yemen going? 😂😂😂😂
@tnndll4294
@tnndll4294 2 күн бұрын
And when there's another Wagner Rebellion, the pro-Russia puppets will gaslight people about "winning".
@kawythowy867
@kawythowy867 2 күн бұрын
Yeah orc
@ejroma3693
@ejroma3693 3 күн бұрын
"Largely static" frontline got me 😂😂😂
@freitasfisica
@freitasfisica 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, just ask the ukranians at the front line, how static it is😂
@carlosdeleon8527
@carlosdeleon8527 2 күн бұрын
But its true though, frontlines have hardly moved at all in the past year
@ejroma3693
@ejroma3693 2 күн бұрын
@@carlosdeleon8527 well i guess if you zoom out enough of the maps it may appear static.
@robertluvisia
@robertluvisia 2 күн бұрын
How many game changers will Ukraine come up with?
@warrenwalker8170
@warrenwalker8170 Күн бұрын
90 planes means at least 180 pilots. - not 20 sooooooo if you could train 20. you could have trained 180 at the same time. emmmmm. something does not make sense does it
@ShashotoANur
@ShashotoANur 3 күн бұрын
F-16s may be a game changer but having these jets and their pilots in such small number will severely limit Ukraine's ability to change the game.
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr 3 күн бұрын
😂
@Sziasztok742
@Sziasztok742 3 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Mehimehi26
@Mehimehi26 3 күн бұрын
They said same thing about abram tanks, it’s a game changer..😂
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 3 күн бұрын
It will be years before Ukraine is ready to fly F-16s in combat. It takes 4-5 years of training. They literally just started.
@sirxavior1583
@sirxavior1583 3 күн бұрын
@@donwyoming1936 . Learning to fly the F-16 isn't the problem. The issue is many Ukrainian pilots were trained based on the Soviet/Russian tactics. A lot of retraining for NATO tactics is required, you can't fly a western plane with Soviet strategy.
@xena2559
@xena2559 3 күн бұрын
Where are those f16s from?
@olivergarcia2304
@olivergarcia2304 3 күн бұрын
The milky way galaxy
@Me1le
@Me1le 3 күн бұрын
They will receive F16 from the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway and Belgium. All recently upgraded to the F35
@xena2559
@xena2559 3 күн бұрын
@@Me1le oh I see
@alicjagorecka3446
@alicjagorecka3446 3 күн бұрын
Czy mam rozumieć, że zamiast na złom, trafią na Ukrainę.
@DavidR-of6nj
@DavidR-of6nj 3 күн бұрын
@@alicjagorecka3446they are well maintained 90s aircraft with upgraded radar. Roughly equivalent to an Su57.
@johnhemryjson8673
@johnhemryjson8673 3 күн бұрын
It will be gone in a week of arrival 😅
@happymelon7129
@happymelon7129 3 күн бұрын
If the delivery route is tracked by Russia, it may even not be delivered.
@footballbrainiac4696
@footballbrainiac4696 3 күн бұрын
problem is....... as we've all learnt.... you just never know what's gonna happen 😂
@slawomirozdoba4605
@slawomirozdoba4605 3 күн бұрын
Same as Himars?
@kevinfidler6287
@kevinfidler6287 2 күн бұрын
@@happymelon7129 they are going to Romania.
@xena2559
@xena2559 3 күн бұрын
Poland is preparing for Russian mischief and incursions by beefing up their airforce?
@nyarkofelix7922
@nyarkofelix7922 3 күн бұрын
😂
@englishmaninmedellin7294
@englishmaninmedellin7294 3 күн бұрын
some trained pilots might suddenly have an urge to "resign" from their postings in the West and enlist in the Ukrainian Air Force.....
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 3 күн бұрын
@@englishmaninmedellin7294 That is part of the plan, add in the US contractors news are talking about. The biggest problem is if airfields are located in Ukraine how to protect them, and if one in Romania is used to convince Russia not to strike Romania or it would make this whole proxy war pointless since it would go directly full scale war.
@Forheavenssake1ify
@Forheavenssake1ify 3 күн бұрын
16-20 pilots/planes against hundreds of thousands Russian glide bombs.... I'm missing the math.
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr 3 күн бұрын
No you are thinking .....you need to stop 😂
@rolfustroli7170
@rolfustroli7170 3 күн бұрын
It’s more like 20 F16 against around 100 Russian fighters. Should be a fair fight. They only need to stop the planes dropping the glide bombs. Not the bombs themselves.
@kevinfidler6287
@kevinfidler6287 3 күн бұрын
@Forheavenssake1ify the planes are to provide front-line support. Air sepremacy is going to be a tough nut to crack, though.
@DavidR-of6nj
@DavidR-of6nj 3 күн бұрын
@@kevinfidler6287clearly, Russia with thousands of aircraft could not achieve this.
@sxe1nuar
@sxe1nuar 3 күн бұрын
@@rolfustroli7170 they aren’t going to use them for dogfights, only glide bombs
@happymelon7129
@happymelon7129 3 күн бұрын
Sitting ducks for target practices
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 3 күн бұрын
Hey Chris Morris!!! I hope you read this comment. How are you doing. Pleasant surprise to see you in a video 😃
@user-xd7zk1pw5y
@user-xd7zk1pw5y 2 күн бұрын
What exactly did your "expert" say
@animecute3716
@animecute3716 3 күн бұрын
placing a game change got to place the mission to already sterile conflict area, ie. the sea. not sure on cascading affect, with close air support just push formation units closer to border. previously, have said long range munition tandeming on those system is for other time to discuss.
@bigfishy7816
@bigfishy7816 2 күн бұрын
Still can’t figure out how to start them yet 😆🫵
@sackykamati7071
@sackykamati7071 3 күн бұрын
Nato f-16 jets are game changers compared to Russian M29 . . . Good Luck!
@et9949
@et9949 3 күн бұрын
They really think Russia will use 1 jet type😂
@naskutak
@naskutak 3 күн бұрын
You are living in wonderland
@alexbrokholm4883
@alexbrokholm4883 3 күн бұрын
@@et9949 he probably meant, that Nato F-16s will be better than ukrainian Mig-29 that are build in Russia.
@sirxavior1583
@sirxavior1583 3 күн бұрын
These jets are either on there way to the junk yard or replaced by the F-35. Instead of sending them to be scrapped might as well make use of them by sending them to Ukraine. No different when Russia pulls out 60yrs old equipment and sends them off to Ukraine like the T-64 tanks, if a weapon still has a use might as well utilize it.
@edwardbernthal160
@edwardbernthal160 3 күн бұрын
@@sirxavior1583 on their way to the junk yard, are you out of your mind. The F16 is being replaced by the F35, not because it is defective or out of date, it is simply because the F35 is more advanced and we have the money to improve our air force.
@jeffh.9999
@jeffh.9999 3 күн бұрын
I would say that supplementing a declining fleet of aircraft, in itself would be very valuable. Everyone wants to hear that F-16's will be a game changer but with a majority of Ukraine fighters destroyed, building the sheer qty of aircraft flying up again is crucial.
@ibrahimtouman2279
@ibrahimtouman2279 3 күн бұрын
another wonder weapon 😂
@SaifulAlam-c9y
@SaifulAlam-c9y 3 күн бұрын
Let’s see
@deek1081
@deek1081 3 күн бұрын
Man you people just announce all the wepons which you can supply
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa 3 күн бұрын
Sind die zum Abschuss frei gegeben?
@morrisonreed1
@morrisonreed1 3 күн бұрын
Recently retired US pilots have volunteered to fly In Ukraine .Who knows if it will be, or is happening
@phantomwolf5485
@phantomwolf5485 Күн бұрын
The problem with that is They'd be classified as Mercs therefore ineligible for protections afforded via Geneva Conventions. Meaning you bypass the POW camp and straight to the Windchime Stand aka Gallows.
@aghassimkrtchyan6323
@aghassimkrtchyan6323 3 күн бұрын
So this Christopher guy is not worried that F-16s flying from Poland to bomb Russia or the Russians fighting in ukraine is not a 5-6 step escalation ? :)😊
@abrakkehakka1357
@abrakkehakka1357 3 күн бұрын
You may be a coward always fearing “oh what will the bully do”. Obviously that means no one who actually is involved in making defense policies won’t bother about such concerns. That ended with Chamberlain. Because we know that not doing anything is what escalates a bully. It is very clear: Russia is violating the UN charter and the international agreement it has signed and hence are conducting not only an illegal aggression, but are engaged in an illegal annexation of land. The international community, according to international agreements Russia has signed, has the right to aid Ukraine in defending itself. Not only by sending arms, but actually by sending troops too. Some would also argue that the international community also must aid in protecting the UN charter and international law buy providing resources to end Russias crime. Russia as the illegal aggressor is always the one who escalate the situation if the situation escalates. Never the defender.
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 3 күн бұрын
@@abrakkehakka1357 Regardless what is legal or illegal, in April/May 2022, Ukraine was asking for USA/NATO to provide "no fly" zone over Ukraine, and then Ukraine was told to stop asking or talking about that. Yet it would be exactly same thing, NATO military planes would fly from NATO countries into Ukraine, why do you think it has not happened yet? on Day 860?
@aghassimkrtchyan6323
@aghassimkrtchyan6323 2 күн бұрын
@@abrakkehakka1357 look, nobody discusses who is or is not the aggressor. There is no place for discussing who is right who is wrong. If the west doesn’t want a war with Russia then they need to avoid it. If the west is ready to have a war with Russia than they should be very clear about that. Let’s them draw a line and say there will be a war with you, Russia . What is questionable is pushing ahead, crossing others’ line and not being ready to go to war
@aghassimkrtchyan6323
@aghassimkrtchyan6323 2 күн бұрын
@@abrakkehakka1357 taking a stand against a “bully” or not being coward means you strike back, draw a line. This is different from what the west does - putting a gun in the head of a minor, in this case Ukraine, and hiding behind the wall and yelling I don’t want a war with this bully
@Herodotus__
@Herodotus__ 2 күн бұрын
What was the last weapon that was suppose to be a gamechanger called?😂😂😂
@ralphwiggum874
@ralphwiggum874 Күн бұрын
no serious analist uses the word gemechanger. Its only a possible gamechanger when there is the quantity as well.
@robijorum4113
@robijorum4113 3 күн бұрын
It's soo funny these Ukraine and western bots can't see what's happening .i mean the west is delaying these f16'eens on purporse 😂😂😂
@janskvara2762
@janskvara2762 3 күн бұрын
The plane is not an issue, it is pilots and training. UA population is badly educated, barely anyone speaks any English and that makes training staff super hard.
@PeterLamin-pi6rv
@PeterLamin-pi6rv 3 күн бұрын
Maybe China can help as it's the factory of the world. Ironic🤐🤐🤐🤐🤔
@gerhardrausing777
@gerhardrausing777 2 күн бұрын
i want to know what version of f16 they will get... ecm? there is a version of amram who is long arm... reach of phoenix... will ukraine get them?
@riversidegardenradio9070
@riversidegardenradio9070 3 күн бұрын
The excuses always precede the deliveries of weapons, because if is one thing is sure , it will not change the trajectory of the conflict, these weapons will be destroyed with the associated denials,
@jensstergard9380
@jensstergard9380 3 күн бұрын
The Putin regime is obviously scared about these F-16, just look at the amount of AI bots allocated.
@johntait491
@johntait491 2 күн бұрын
Has Ukraine got ground protection for these aircraft.? Surely this would have been one of the first questions to have been asked and answered by the Ukrainian Government and MOD, and those countries supplying the aircraft.? Russian seems to be able to hit the airfields within Ukraine as has been demonstrated in recent days. 😕
@MasterBakerVideos
@MasterBakerVideos 2 күн бұрын
Please don't call them "Fighting Falcons". No pilot calls them that and they hate the name. They call the F16 the "Viper", after the BattleStar Galactica fighters. Do the research.
@SeemoreDunkan
@SeemoreDunkan 3 күн бұрын
In the coming weeks..... This is BEYOND SLOW. Nice 50 year old jets.... Why not start training more pilots and like WAY earlier?
@jensstergard9380
@jensstergard9380 3 күн бұрын
These planes have been updated continuously, especially the ones from my country. That is why the pilots have so much to learn.
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa 3 күн бұрын
@@jensstergard9380Is your country the one who violated a seize fire in Syria with these airplanes?
@politicallyincorrect4452
@politicallyincorrect4452 Күн бұрын
@@claus-not-santa Get bent Ivan....
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa Күн бұрын
@@politicallyincorrect4452 Who is Ivan? Friend of yours?
@politicallyincorrect4452
@politicallyincorrect4452 Күн бұрын
@@claus-not-santa If you say so Vlad....
@BebePix
@BebePix 3 күн бұрын
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
@hughmc6986
@hughmc6986 2 күн бұрын
Any Volunteers to maintain and fly that surplus and give native pilot’s more time to train?
@dan9002
@dan9002 3 күн бұрын
Adding F-16'S might be first used for air to air while the Migs can be used for air to ground. Basically more aircraft will enhance the Ukrainian Air Force. Real War is not a Video Game. The real difference is that the F-16's radar range and ordnance weight is 3 times that of the Mig-29 not to mention the vast array of ordnance the F-16's can fire. That means a F-16's can see a Mig-29 3 times further than a Mig's radar can and fire on it before the Mig knows anyone is there. That is the real change on an air to air battle. This establishes a wider range for Ukrainians Air Force and a much smaller one for Russia, here by reducing Russians use of combat aircraft in the conflict because of fear of them being lossed.
@serviustullus7204
@serviustullus7204 3 күн бұрын
What?
@TriEarth96
@TriEarth96 2 күн бұрын
Defense plans? More like offense.
@MrCcristof
@MrCcristof Күн бұрын
There are hundreds of foreign pilots ready to sign for Ukraine
@FieldBlaser
@FieldBlaser Күн бұрын
Russian trolls have been working over time!! How about that 10 day SMO?
@igorbukovy4313
@igorbukovy4313 2 күн бұрын
Putin is criticizing international responsibilities (IR). So Russia can break IR but Ukraine can not as a retaliation? Russia can strike Ukrainian territory but Ukraine can not as a retaliation? What a fool!
@fjuraa
@fjuraa 2 күн бұрын
Putin: we can strike them but they better not dare to strike us back!!!1
@swift_learn
@swift_learn 3 күн бұрын
If you look what currently Ukraine is doing. It's taking out Russia air defence before the F16 arrival.
@alberthenriette8976
@alberthenriette8976 3 күн бұрын
In your dream🤪
@sebastianvagabond4692
@sebastianvagabond4692 3 күн бұрын
Ukraine isn’t doing this, NATO is. Ukraine doesn’t have this capability.
@jackm.1628
@jackm.1628 3 күн бұрын
@@sebastianvagabond4692 If that is true why isn't your dear leader Putin declaring war on Nato?
@SmilingNinja
@SmilingNinja 3 күн бұрын
@@sebastianvagabond4692 They're not, but even if NATO were, why doesn't Putin do something about it? Fire a shot in anger towards the West and find out what happens. 🤣
@IsaacLuna-hl3dd
@IsaacLuna-hl3dd 3 күн бұрын
​@@SmilingNinjaKZfaq is useless, they keep deleting my comments.
@anilvyas2652
@anilvyas2652 3 күн бұрын
Lot of noises of Abraham tank what happened and then f-16
@willhudson5625
@willhudson5625 3 күн бұрын
Abrams have been very effective lol
@josue_kay
@josue_kay 3 күн бұрын
The problem wasn't the Abrams tanks, the problem is that the Russians are unfairly properly armed unlike,. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya... 😂
@espurr3496
@espurr3496 3 күн бұрын
This is gonna blow your tiny mind but 31 tanks aren't gonna beat the 3rd strongest army in the world.
@Gaia1980-xv1mt
@Gaia1980-xv1mt 3 күн бұрын
​@@willhudson5625scrape 😅😅
@TacticalFumo-sg2dt
@TacticalFumo-sg2dt 3 күн бұрын
Russians keeping spamming about Abramses is hilarious. You lost 3000+ tanks, your T-90s get shredded daily, your T-14 are cancelled. But still, _"hurr durr Abramses are not invulnerable!! Do you remember that?!! We are reminding yououou!! They aren't invulnerable!!!! The wEsT iS fiNIsheD"_ xDDD
@ClearlyNutz
@ClearlyNutz 2 күн бұрын
Contrast those 80 or so F16s to the 324 750 aircraft the US produced during WW2.
@cptpltM2000
@cptpltM2000 2 күн бұрын
How many more flight hours can these ex F16 European Program Air Force planes have? These were Block 15 F16A/B aircraft manufactured in the mid to late 80s and had the NATO Mid Life Upgrade to avionics in the late 90s but only a limited extension of their airframe lives.
@PlaYer-sn5or
@PlaYer-sn5or 3 күн бұрын
Another game changer huh? 😁
@Mehimehi26
@Mehimehi26 3 күн бұрын
They said same thing about abram tanks, it’s a game changer..😒
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa 3 күн бұрын
These are the game changers nr. 483 !! NOW Ukraine will be winning MUCH more!
@tnndll4294
@tnndll4294 2 күн бұрын
NATO delayed delivery of ammo to Ukraine to appease Russia. Only 20+% of EU ammo delivered by end of 2023.
@Mehimehi26
@Mehimehi26 2 күн бұрын
@@claus-not-santa define how ukraine will be winning? What I see is that ukraine become a battlefield with thousands had died, millions has been displaced and good luck with that billions dollar of debt.
@claus-not-santa
@claus-not-santa 2 күн бұрын
@@Mehimehi26Should I have marked my comment as sarcasm for you?
@Mehimehi26
@Mehimehi26 2 күн бұрын
@@claus-not-santa 😬 you should.. but i still eager to get some answer how we define ukrain will be winning, how long it will be zellensky selling this war? What is the end game?.. 😥
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 3 күн бұрын
" but will there be enough pilots" It was said that training started when deliveries were agreed on and you again confirmed that. What is that question for then? Maybe france should think to lend out their foreign legion under the command of ukrains foreign legion. Do these troop segements even have a dedicated air force? I would think not. Then again under such an umbrella, it shouldn't be hard to merc some pilots.
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 3 күн бұрын
@@jensstergard9380 Please be so kind if not polite, to tell me which assumptions were false maybe then it becomes clear what/who was silly.
@jensstergard9380
@jensstergard9380 2 күн бұрын
@@kinngrimm The question if there's enough pilots is relevant because their ability to learn to handle the complicated F-16 at an exceptionally high speed was overestimated. I won't blame you for not knowing that, and I withdraw my critique.
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 2 күн бұрын
@@jensstergard9380 Ofcause the question is relevant. Just not under the circumstances described in the report. If they have more plains available than pilots one could either say those could be used as replacements if plains would get shot down and the pilots survive or what i suggested to somehow make more already trained pilots available. " their ability to learn to handle the complicated F-16 at an exceptionally high speed was overestimated." As they had flown MIGs and other fighterjets before i doubt they wouldn't be able to cope with the new plains, though ofcause if everything is that much different then it could surely be the case that training would need a longer than planned for duration. Again, then having some replacements for these delayed pilots wouldn't be so silly would it now?
@jensstergard9380
@jensstergard9380 2 күн бұрын
​@@kinngrimm The planes the pilots flew before were really much less complicated. The videos from the Danish military training the pilots don't directly deal with this issue but it is understood. I don't think we should let any other soldier than the Ukrainians formally participate in the war before it is very clear that the Putin regime uses non-Russians. Another serious issue is educating the mechanics, they also have a steep learning curve. And most of these Ukrainians have to improve their English skills a lot before they can handle the hardware. Once all this is in place Ukraine will have a small but very efficient air force, I'm looking very much forward to that. The Putin regime is aware of the situation that's why they push so hard these days. When the Russian bots claim here that the Putin regime is gaining a bit terrain they are speaking the truth.
@wingtip76
@wingtip76 3 күн бұрын
Russian bot here..Just like the Ahbrams tanks and the Bradleys, these planes will have no impact on the war, six months from now the next "wonder weapon'' will be??😂😂
@Bogeymania
@Bogeymania 3 күн бұрын
And before you know it Russia will have depleted their inventory and have shown the USA everything they do. The west is literally playing war games from the sidelines right now.
@mahmoudtalebi9974
@mahmoudtalebi9974 3 күн бұрын
You know, the laugh emojis gives it away …
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 3 күн бұрын
There won't be no next "wonder weapon" aside from USA threatening to enter directly, and if they do that would really be a game changer
@icu17siberia
@icu17siberia 2 күн бұрын
they seem to have driven the Russians to trench warfare, like WW1
@LOLONO666
@LOLONO666 Күн бұрын
they should secure our borders first
@kala30124
@kala30124 3 күн бұрын
Nothing will change Russia is Russia .
@jwijn
@jwijn 2 күн бұрын
I hope the F16 don,t change the game and keep the game conventional.But he can certainly change the game since he has the power to carry 1 atomic bomb.
@jonathanjacob5453
@jonathanjacob5453 Күн бұрын
The “battlefield positions” might appear to be static but Ukraine is finding itself in a crisis. They are suffering horrifying casualties.
@ddelin100
@ddelin100 Күн бұрын
Really ? Are you at the front line ?
@happymelon7129
@happymelon7129 3 күн бұрын
If the delivery route is tracked by Russia, it may even not be delivered.
@jensstergard9380
@jensstergard9380 3 күн бұрын
So much has been delivered so far, showing that the risk is very small.
@timkincade9763
@timkincade9763 3 күн бұрын
The Russ will hit the airfields with IRBMs . Is Poland and Romania going to allow Ukrainian pilots to fly from thier air fields?
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ
@QAYWSXEDCCXYDSAEWQ 3 күн бұрын
@@timkincade9763 Isn't there a base on Romania that going to be the F16 new home.
@jensstergard9380
@jensstergard9380 2 күн бұрын
@@timkincade9763 Of cause the Putin regime will hit the airfields as much as they can. Let's hope the Ukrainians will get Patriot and other systems enough to make the asphalt repair teams able to fix the runways fast enough in the transition period.
@nunofontainhas3562
@nunofontainhas3562 3 күн бұрын
This is all bulshit about trainning capability!
@dirgsuite5546
@dirgsuite5546 2 күн бұрын
It does not matter how F16 stack up Ukrainian Migs. It matters how stack up to Russian air defense and Russian jets and the training of Russian pilots. And that does not bode well!
@ellabrad3886
@ellabrad3886 22 сағат бұрын
No training. Jet's will be lost and Russian will get the technology
@olivergarcia2304
@olivergarcia2304 3 күн бұрын
Finally! Now watch Russian bots start to cry and make silly excuses!
@olivka7560
@olivka7560 3 күн бұрын
Never seen Russsian bot ever reading news about Ukraine . Which cannot be said about Ukrainian bots
@LowBrowProgramming
@LowBrowProgramming 3 күн бұрын
@@olivka7560we already scored 1 russian bot on this comment alone
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr 3 күн бұрын
Another Game changer.....let me go cry 😂
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr 3 күн бұрын
​@LowBrowProgramming Been called Russian bot its a god thing nowadays means common sense and Thinking
@olivergarcia2304
@olivergarcia2304 3 күн бұрын
@@JohnCSmith-lp1qr Only to a Russian bot who calls himself John Smith 😂😂🤣🤣 reverse-logic much???
@halporter9
@halporter9 2 күн бұрын
Pilots? You men they haven’t been training them for two years? Also, why haven’t the started buying Grippens for the last two years. Looking forward, Swedish/SAAB Grippens would add a huge amount to the tactical flexibility. Short logistics train, simple to maintain, not too expensive,can operate from primitive airfields. Even if a couple of years off, 60 late model Grippens reasonably add another dimension.
@user-cz7cm4lz9f
@user-cz7cm4lz9f 3 күн бұрын
there are enough pilots, they are caught every day in Ukraine
@AG-un7dz
@AG-un7dz 3 күн бұрын
Ukraine needs the Grippen. They don't have aerial refueling tankers so they won't be able to fully exploit them. But with the Grippen, they can land on motorways and be refuelled and rearmed and rapidly get back into the fight.
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 3 күн бұрын
The Gripen is expensive, can only be produced in small numbers, and actually requires high-grade runways. It actually doesn't take off from highways. Those are legit runways.
@salahuddinyusuf
@salahuddinyusuf 3 күн бұрын
That’s the dream.
@timkincade9763
@timkincade9763 3 күн бұрын
Grippen and A10 . What happened to the mirage 2000s Ukraine was supposed to get?
@MaxHohenstaufen
@MaxHohenstaufen 3 күн бұрын
@@donwyoming1936 the grippen was specifically designed for this, to fight this enemy, Russia, in an asymmetrical war, from isolated airfields with limited resources in northern Sweeden, while also being a chaper alternative to operate than what NATO has, which Sweden was not part of.
@la7dfa
@la7dfa 3 күн бұрын
The main reason for F16 is the number of available planes. There are just 200 or so Gripens, so Sweden had to give away from their own active fleet if you wanted significant numbers. So it is not so much about capabilties of Gripen vs F16, but more about the obvious pick (F16 in available numbers) vs the Russian planes.
@MV12267
@MV12267 Күн бұрын
Call Mantis Toboggan M.D. he is a doctor and a pilot.
@cromcruach2958
@cromcruach2958 2 күн бұрын
lets put as many game changes and change the game in a video as possible, it will make everyone impressed...
@karlmunford7000
@karlmunford7000 3 күн бұрын
00:00 - _"Ukraine's battlefield position has been largely static"_ What tosh, it's been in slow retreat for months now, lying doesn't alter that fact. The F16s have to make a difference, but how fast they can be assimilated into daily military operations is difficult to say... friendly fire from them or upon them takes place in mature airforces, so dumping them into this battle isn't going to be easy. High tech appears to have cancelled each other out returning a large chuck of the battle to the kind of trench warfare seen in both world wars, which replies heavily on 155 rounds, and thats the kind of grinding warfare Russia excels at, beefed up and supplied by the North Koreans.
@user-od1pe2ip2n
@user-od1pe2ip2n 3 күн бұрын
Ukraine is finished 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@PeterLamin-pi6rv
@PeterLamin-pi6rv 3 күн бұрын
Who's next on the frontline. Macron.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@timothypeterson1903
@timothypeterson1903 Күн бұрын
It won't matter much they are currently destroying the airfields and what remains of their current air force. The jets won't last very long once they arrive.
@davidboskett5581
@davidboskett5581 3 күн бұрын
All Ukraine needs is more and more drones with increased capability and probably more skilled drone pilots.There are more problems around the use of the F16's than they are worth
@Seromontis
@Seromontis 2 күн бұрын
I think Russia's definition of violate and other countries' is different.
@Randomized91
@Randomized91 2 күн бұрын
Poland has now chance to retake Lviv
@ernegregor
@ernegregor 2 күн бұрын
there is no hope left for ukraine the weapon has run out this is the final hope
@PhilipZeplinDK
@PhilipZeplinDK 3 күн бұрын
Every time DW or BBC releases a video on Ukraine, the comment track goes nuts with Russian astroturfers and bots. At this point it's gotten to be a joke, with how insane the comments on these videos get. I'm honestly surprised they still allow commenting on these videos at all by now. edit: case in point, look at the replies.
@alberthenriette8976
@alberthenriette8976 3 күн бұрын
Because the fans of Russia are more numerous than the fans of NATO/Ukraine 😂 You don't support a losing team.
@lovyrituraj
@lovyrituraj 3 күн бұрын
You like to support the losing team of Ukraine go ahead !
@Stuenestoppen2
@Stuenestoppen2 3 күн бұрын
It’s a good sign when Kremlin flood the comment section tho. It means it’s an important topic for them and the video is on to something, hitting a nerve. The more Kremlin in the comments, the more the content worries them
@user-ry7rd2po7r
@user-ry7rd2po7r 3 күн бұрын
​ @Stuenestoppen2 yeah, the russian comments almost smell as desperate as Putin asking one of the poorest countries of the world (North Korea) for help..... Well, some people can´t b helped...🤷‍♂
@traviswebb3532
@traviswebb3532 3 күн бұрын
​@@lovyriturajbot
@bieronsomslao8552
@bieronsomslao8552 2 күн бұрын
There heap private pilots
@PaulLiviu
@PaulLiviu 3 күн бұрын
Another game changer from 1960 's what a joke
@justhefacts8358
@justhefacts8358 3 күн бұрын
A colt 1911 is a hundred and fourteen years old, old don't mean nothing ;)
@buddy1155
@buddy1155 3 күн бұрын
The planes they get are from the 80's with a MLU in the 2000's, it will not be the game changer, but it will help Ukraine.
@operator9858
@operator9858 3 күн бұрын
​@@justhefacts8358 a 1911 isnt competing in the aerospace theater bro...
@justhefacts8358
@justhefacts8358 3 күн бұрын
@@operator9858 you understand what an analogy is right? And secondly that's beside the point I was making. I was simply pointing out that old weapons can still be effective, case in point Russian t54,s guess what year those came out lol
@TheGimmers
@TheGimmers 3 күн бұрын
If it was really a joke then Russia should have won by now
@paulwalker427
@paulwalker427 3 күн бұрын
they have been retreating for months you mean
@extraterrestrialfascisti7625
@extraterrestrialfascisti7625 3 күн бұрын
Prediction: they will never be a game changer
@scalways
@scalways Күн бұрын
Might be time to update the old pubs!
@andresacevedo2753
@andresacevedo2753 3 күн бұрын
95% of the people's comments have no clue how midian lies to people about the real situation to sad most people believe almost everything
@Clancydaenlightened
@Clancydaenlightened 3 күн бұрын
Send some us military pilots as "independent contract flight teachers"
@Clancydaenlightened
@Clancydaenlightened 3 күн бұрын
Technically they aren't Frontline soldiers and shouldn't be seen as an "escalation" if Russia using north Korea to do the same
@41divad
@41divad Күн бұрын
Another finger in Putin's eye
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