The difference from a normal targa is the rear window retracts giving a open top illusion, i cant tell a difference when driving both, was able to try both back to back a couple days ago, chose the RF just because its not even noticable, mazda perfected the illusion of an open top on the RF for sure.

I had 2 fiat x1/9’s ( yes I know suffering n yes I’m Italian) plus lots more Italian stuff in my younger days so I’ve had it all & the complete open air experience is incomparable. I’m on my 4th Miata🏌️‍♂️

My 1st MX-5 was a NB soft top, then a NC soft top, next was a ND soft top. Now I have an NC PRHT. Overall, I prefer the NC

@@bluford6949 is your nc a auto or manual?

Last year I tested a carmax nd with a/t n disliked it though I didn’t want to. I found a 1 owner, garaged, woman owned 13’ prht gt auto n fell in love with it immediately. I had manuals my whole life as I’m 63 now but while the auto isn’t the same visceral feel; I had to get it due to a bad hip. I hope the sports car Gods forgive for that!😂 Btw what’s your opinion of your time with your nd? Thank u

Same here- wife is a tall Texan 6/1 tho I’m 5/9- Drove a 2021 nd soft top at carmax n both of us said nope. Snagged a 1 owner grandma 13’ prht in red mica n was done👍 Btw I’ve had 4 Miata’s now-love em’ and sold my a6 to get back in the family🙌🏁

Yeah. The NC definitely has more room for people. It also has more room for gloves, drinks, and carry on suitcases. I like the Look of the ND better, but the NC is much more practical... And practicality is nice in a tiny car.

Glad we could help!

Couldn't agree more!

How do you know it is an nc3? I'm considering the NC, but not sure how to differentiate. It is a 2013 club manual.

​@@jolkraeremeark6949If you were still wondering, yours is an NC3.

Congrats! I have a copper red mica with the matching color top- 4th Miata now for this 63 year old Cali boy!😂

Had a brand new 2003 shinsen version- 223k on original clutch too- man I miss her🏁

​@@mauricesoulis1590 I bought my first Miata a year ago. I've ALWAYS wanted one but would end up buying something else. Finally, at 44 I purchased a 2002 SE Titanium Gray. I got in an accident in my Turbo Beetle and my Ford Sierra Xr4ti isn't ready to be driven so I decided it was time to become a Miata person. It's become my favorite car. It's the 47th car I've bought since I was 17 and I think it is the most exciting and satisfying of them all. I regret not getting into Miaata earlier in life. I want an RF. I love the look of the ND but the RF/ND is so gorgeous.

My pop had 2 town cars & if they still made them? I’d look at one as I’m 63 now. He had Buick Roadmasters b4 but he loved his Lincoln’s!! Thx for the memories

@maxcactus7 - Having owned several '64 & '65 Lincolns, and now and NBs, yes you are correct and you will love it.

It's very subjective and anything outside of a scientific side by side comparison isn't going to satisfy the internet. Mike and Travis both love their cars and don't have any regrets or issues with the wind noise :)

Yep, Mazda's Eternal Blue. It was only available for a few years.

The good news is there are plenty of options out there!

All the carbon bits on the ND are from Carbon miata

Hi I found only 1 vid in Russian? I think but it’s very informative-took 5 min with my wife working the top in increments. 8-10 lube points to hit👍 Def quieter n faster as mine is a 13’ that I’m positive was never done. Dealer would hit u for 30 min labor I bet. Let me know if u can’t find the vid on utube.

This would be a great video. Not much info out there for maintaining the PRHT NC

@@ChristianGuadalupe13 hi Christian- Pull up marton varga vid on it- 3:03 long- verrrrry informative

Thanks for watching! With enough searching, you'll find one! Websites like Autotempest are helpful as they allow you to narrow down your search for manual-only vehicles.

@FlyinMiataVideo thanks for the tip....do you recommend using premium only ?

@@adrianotero7963 If we're talking about what fuel to use, premium is required per Mazda and we don't have a good argument against it.

@@FlyinMiataVideo thanks....

I don't have any actual info on the factory ones are but I'll say this much, there's a reason people upgrade them. Even if you're short you should upgrade it. There are certain things that you don't cheap out on, and one of them is safety. That's a mistake you only live to make once.

Black Bird Fabworx was working on one that kept the roof functionality. You might want to reach out to them.

@@FlyinMiataVideo Ah, coolness. I'll give them a yell.

I daily my NC and it's somewhat modified. Full exhaust, intake, tune, coilovers, wheels, sways. I do several road trips a year in it and I am driving it to the Miata Reunion in October. I have no issues with reliability at all. The suspension is actually more comfortable than it was stock.

I take one of my 2 dogs & go to Yosemite once a month for a weeks’ stay year round. I live near sf. Wife can’t go so that’s a plus right there. Gut the trunk cept’ safety stuff/soft bags/small coolers-n done. Quite ez. I just sold my luxo a6 Audi for my 13’ so on me 4th Miata now👍

Carbon Miata

Carbon Miata

Less badges the better, Bro!

The ND looks like shit IMO. The NC looks much better so don't feel bad.

We sell a "Transformer" roll bar that lets you convert to a track legal roll bar, with a couple of compromises. Check out our listing for more info, and feel free to give us a call if you have any questions! flyinmiata.com/products/hard-dog-transformer-roll-bar?_pos=1&_psq=transformer&_ss=e&_v=1.0

@@FlyinMiataVideo These have been out for nearly a decade now but I don't see any stories of people saying that their local track days/autocrosses are happy for them to run with them. Is flyin miata aware of any success stories where people are tracking cars with these, particularly with added power? The obvious answer is "talk to your local organization", but how this has been received elsewhere is at least indicative of if it's worth pursuing.

Yes, we have customers who have been using them on track for years and have sent us pictures. We have also used them in our own cars with varying power levels and haven’t run into a problem yet. Note that roll protection is not usually required for autox other than in some extreme classes.

Thanks for the info. Love your videos, BTW. Watched Keith's on brake calipers just last night.

The wheels are our exclusive Tobu Forged 17x9 wheels with Toyo R888R 235/40 tires. flyinmiata.com/products/tobu-17x9-forged-wheel?_pos=3&_sid=0d4aaff28&_ss=r The carbon fiber is all from Carbon Miata.

Yep, that's Mazda Eternal Blue Mica. It was only available for a couple of years.

It's nice to see the price of the NC come down a bit so that more people are willing to mod them.

Most of the info is here, but if you have any specific questions, let us know and we'll try to get an answer for you :) flyinmiata.com/pages/featured-stitch?_pos=2&_sid=6f3abffa6&_ss=r

Eternal Blue Mica

BOAT stands for Best Of All Time

We sail at Dawn little Buddy! Ps-3 hour cruise only

Carbon Miata

T-Tops have a cross bar down the middle, technically it's more of a Targa top ;)

Those are our exclusive FM Tobu wheels in 17x9, with 235/40 Toyo R888R tires. flyinmiata.com/products/tobu-17x9-forged-wheel

Factory or lowered? A stock Miata can take a standard speed bump without any issues, but some speed bumps are bigger than others, and any substantially lowered car will have trouble with aggressive speed bumps.

flyinmiata.com/pages/featured-stitch

I might be misunderstanding your statement here, but the RF is noticeably quieter on the highway compared to the soft top. Not a massive difference, though, subjectively.

Carbon Miata

There is definitely a little bit of wind noise, but we wouldn't call it "painful".

It's more traditional to the NA/NB body lines/proportions, which could be why.

Eternal Blue Mica

Apologies, those would have been good additions to the video!

I owned the NC1 GT soft for 3 years and have had the ND 1 Club BBS for 4 years, my observations: NC - Marginally roomier feeling - Slightly more after market accessories and mods cause it's older, but both have a lot - Traditional glove box on passenger side plus an alternative storage compartment above the center console, between driver's and passenger's shoulders - Traditional 2 cup holders beneath slide away cover, just behind the shifter - Two cubbies behind the driver and passenger seats - Passenger leg room less encroached by transmission tunnel - Window up/down buttons are on the center console, not the doors - Steering wheel radio controls are "levers" or "triggers" where you tick them up or down - Stock steering wheel doesn't have any bolsters, uniform diameter all the way around - Steering column is further out towards driver - Sun visors are up/down only, no flip out or slide - Mirror is standard 27cm small size - stock shift knob is cylindrical shaped, stands a bit taller, same short throw, with gummier, notched shift feel ND - dimensionally it's not significantly smaller, but it does feel a lot more fitted and cockpit like - plenty of after market mods available for both ND1 and ND2 now - No glove box in front of passenger, but still has the alternative storage compartment above the center console, between driver's and passenger's shoulders - Two cubbies behind the driver and passenger seats - No built in cup holders. Instead you have cup holder mount slots beside the passengers knee on the center console, or in the center console just in front of the alternative storage compartment - Passenger leg room very encroached by transmission tunnel - Window up/down buttons are on the doors - Steering wheel radio controls are push buttons - stock steering wheel has 10 and 2 bolsters. Similar overall diameter as NC - Steering column is shorter, so 5'10"+ drivers may want a spacer - Sun visors are up/down only, no flip out or slide - Mirror is standard 27cm small size - stock shift knob is spherical shaped, stands a bit lower, same short throw, with precise, mechanical notched shift feel

Spot on comparo👍 The only comment I can offer is the nd looks are very “homogenized” vs. nc. I’ve had all 4 series & as pedestrian as my nb was; that’s by far the best runner n the fun factor is tops in my eyes. Btw I had a nd for a week from a dealer I borrowed it from n found a 1 owner garaged Cali prht in red mica with 39k on her. Have a fab summer!👍🏁

We don't either!

According to Motor Trend: 2013 NC Club approx 0-60 in 6.1 and the 1/4 in 14.7 @93 mph 2019 ND RF approx 0-60 in 5.7 and the 1/4 in 14.4 @95.5 mph

@@FlyinMiataVideo - Nice but are these times for automatic or manual transmission Miatas?

​@@rembo183I'm sure manual... No one in their right mind buys a Miata, any year, with an automatic! 🤬😫

@@KOrnhOliO1 - I’m not in my right mind!😊😎👍🏻

Elephant? Who you calling an elephant?😁

@@FlyinMiataVideo The elephantine element of the comparison is that the RF isn't really a convertible

@@demon1954 Fair enough.

Travis, and many others, love the push button targa top, but we know not everyone is a fan :)

To be fair: Farts are many things, but they're not boring. Subjectively, of course.