Nelson: Saved by a Snow Plough.

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Жыл бұрын

Nelson, or was it was once known, Bradyll, is one of the oldest and perhaps most obscure locomotives in preservation. Date and builder unknown, it was once thought to have been built by Timothy Hackworth in 1835 but this is not so. Research in the 1990s by Drs Bailey & Glithero has revealed the locomotive to have been built in the late 1830s or early 1840s; receiving a new boiler in the mid-1850s before being converted to snow plough in 1876.
Nelson is also possibly the oldest surviving rail snow plough!
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@teescottageguyproductions Жыл бұрын

This engine is an engine I work with regularly as I volunteer at Locomotion where it is

@Arkay315 Жыл бұрын

That is one unique old engine, it's amazing it's survived nearly 200 Years. Could you maybe make a video about the heilmann locomotive? It's a unique french steam electric locomotive.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Already working on one

@WhatAboutTheBee Жыл бұрын

It is an interesting artifact, yet so little is left. Sadly, all of the drive mechanism is gone and the boiler a later replacement. An early one, yet still a replacement. So what we have are some interesting wheels and a frame. Still enjoyable Mr. Dawson. Thank you!

@nicholas2198 Жыл бұрын

Interesting definitely, though depending on how you look at it the in service replacement boiler is equally as important as whatever little remains of the actual original engine. I'm sure there are few if any engines preserved anywhere with 100% of their original components intact 🤔😁

@WhatAboutTheBee Жыл бұрын

@@nicholas2198 Agreed! A patented 1850s boiler is most certainly welcome. Edit: to spell "most" properly, and not like a berserk chimpanzee.

@biglittlerailroad874 11 ай бұрын

The addition of the image of Victor led me to do further research on it. Fascinating loco saved by the GWR of all companies.

@RailRocketRicky Жыл бұрын

This locomotive was briefly featured in Fred Dibnah's Industrial Age Episode 5 "Railways", and extensively featured in 'The Story of Britain's Railways' in his Railway Collection DVD box-set. It was 1998 when Fred Dibnah saw this locomotive.

@shaunbolton4662 Жыл бұрын

Wow- fascinating story! I don't think I have ever heard of this locomotive before, glad to learn about it now. I have a great interest in the early locomotives and love the coverage you give them- thanks Anthony! Keep up the great work!

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

My absolute pleasure. Great to have you onboard!

@ArthurAndNormandyFan1 Жыл бұрын

Wow. This is the first locomotive on your channel I've never heard of before. Very informative.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын

Thought I was up to date with the very early preserved UK locomotives, but this one escaped the reference books I devoured over the past fifty odd years. Not sure why. Thanks for the further education on this.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@jonathanratcliffe5714 Жыл бұрын

I suspect that it's probably because it's been tucked out of the way, first in a colliery and then in the old Timothy Hackworth museum in Shildon which didn't have a lot of visitor numbers. Since it's transformation into Locomotion it's been in the Soho shed end of the site that hasn't always been open and a good walk from the main hall with lower footfall. Also it was thought for a long time to be a Timothy Hackworth design and there's a much better preserved Derwent as an example of the Hackworth type. The Glitheroe/Bailey study found out it was actually a lot more interesting than it appeared as Anthony has brilliantly explained in this video.

@Shipwright1918 Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Union Pacific's surviving steam engines, 844 in particular. Aside from all the PR work, one of the reasons it was retained in operational condition was to blow snow from the rails in the yards through pipes built into its front pilot to keep the points from freezing in the winter. Kinda feel a little sorry for Nelson here, it would be nice to see her motion and other fittings put back in place.

@cncshrops Жыл бұрын

Nice, forensic, presentation. Thank you.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@PaperThinArmor Жыл бұрын

So sad nothing is known about this ancient engine’s origin. Great video covering everything that is known about this enigma.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Thanks. At least it still survives.

@TRAIN110ValleyProductions Жыл бұрын

I am so confused about this engine's design, and I love it.

@PeterT1981 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy your videos very much. This one in particular was highly informative and enjoyable. Thank you for putting forth this wonderful effort!

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@PebProductions46 Жыл бұрын

Now *this* is a loco we need in RTR model form!

@CARLOS62B Жыл бұрын

This is a wonderful video .... thank you for making it. Could you make a video about the old now demolished engine sheds that were located at the site of the new Network Rail Centre in York.

@delurkor Жыл бұрын

After viewing J.Hazzard's video this AM, I was wondering "I haven't seen anything from Anthony Dawson for a while," and what should pop up. Nice archaeology sleuthing and interesting history. Thank you.

@willallen7757 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting, I've never seen one of these.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@nicholas2198 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting on the change in name/history of the engine. Would it be possible to get an overview video of some hackworth design engines such as the Tory, Derwent and miner engines even though some no longer have a surviving example to show? Some survived into NER ownership to my knowledge and would have been quite the archaic sight by the late 1860s

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Working on it mate.

@RaysRailVideos Жыл бұрын

Plug wheels i was always told that Timothy hackworth had came up with that idea and thats also the reason why they feature in the decorative railings around the town of shildon. Snowploughs i wonder what the first recorded use of one was, there development would be an interesting subject.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

They were first developed by Robert Wilson for his locomotive the four-cylinder "Chittapratt". Hackworth used components from the "Chittapratt" to build his own "Royal George" - including the wheels. So no, Timothy H. is not their progenitor.

@RaysRailVideos Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory ah right so thats more stuff i was lied to about by the education system, begs the question what else was i told at school that was bullshit, probably most of it

@xylicable Жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting this together. Really good.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@maxtivey32 Жыл бұрын

Yet another interesting and informative video, Anthony! Love your stuff - keep it up, please.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it!

@channelsixtysix066 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy all your videos, Anthony and look forward to seeing them.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@mileshawkins1802 Жыл бұрын

I think a point of significance is the working life of this locomotive. If it wasn't retired until the 1940s, that means it had a working life of over 100 years! Granted, not exactly as an engine, but still. I can't think of any other locomotive, especially of that vintage that was in meaningful service that long, in any capacity. All I can think of is Lion, and iirc her service life only ended in 1928, a much shorter time than Nelson. If there's another example, I'd love to hear it.

@HamStrains Жыл бұрын

The VoR tanks in Aberystwyth are approaching 100 in active service purely as locomotives without much if any break other than for overhaul

@adamtebbs8783 Жыл бұрын

There's Talyllyn Railway No. 2, which has been going since 1866 with no breaks bar awaiting/undergoing overhauls. Talyllyn No. 1, Talyllyn/Corris No. 3 and some of the England's at the Ffestiniog can't be far behind in terms of working years. Granted each of these engines have ended up like Trigger's broom, but there's still a line of continuity in at least some of the components!

@greycatturtle7132 Жыл бұрын

Pretty

@jonathanratcliffe5714 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always, it's a fascinating locomotive with an interesting set of features and a great survival story.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@misterflibble6601 Жыл бұрын

The old veteran plows on!

@johnjephcote7636 Жыл бұрын

I always wondered what had become of it, having known H C Casserley's photograph of it (lying at South Hetton Colliery) in the 1947 'Railway Magazine'.

@HamStrains Жыл бұрын

A replica of this would be just beautiful to see rolling along. So many potential subjects, so few resources sadly. On another note will we recieve an update from you excavations in Scotland this year?

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Here ya go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5d6YM2EnNjUhIk.html

@Alcononymous Жыл бұрын

Its criminal you only have 6,500 subs.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

I know, right? Oh well.

@cloudedarctrooper Жыл бұрын

I'm sorta eager to see this locomotive fully restored

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

I dont think that will ever happen.

@lexdmitriew1452 Жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👌👌👌

@AnthraciteHorrorStories Жыл бұрын

This is cool. I have an Atlantic Massie (think that's the name) of the Great Northern Railway, 3.5" gauge live steam. She's green and runs on alcohol. Building a railroad in my backyard and going to ride it for the rest of my life I hope. Greetings from the US. Nice video.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

That sounds an awful lot of fun! My back yard railway isnt quite large enough to ride on but is fun to steam and watch it run.

@AnthraciteHorrorStories Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory we'll see if it ever happens on my end LOL. I have just a hair under an acre which is wooded, so it would be a decent backdrop. What kind of live steam do you have?

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

@@AnthraciteHorrorStories This is my little railway kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d6umkrum2LHJepc.html

@AnthraciteHorrorStories Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory that was great. My little daughter enjoyed watching that too. Hahaha. What does it run on?

@robnewman6101 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Interesting.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

@robnewman6101 Жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@malcolmtaylor518 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video on this interesting loco. Perhaps you could make one on Invicta, currently housed in the Whitstable museum.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Its quite old and needs revisiting but here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5-efJqgvreWqGw.html

@malcolmtaylor518 Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much, didn't know you had covered Invicta.

@sebastianthomsen2225 Жыл бұрын

i did! 😊👍

@garryferrington811 Жыл бұрын

I don't know if you can really call this a preserved locomotive so much as a surviving hulk. It's very interesting nonetheless.

@johndavies1090 Жыл бұрын

Quite fascinating - I'd never heard of this engine either. On first sight I thought something unhappy had happened to 'Derwent', but she's a different engine altogether. Do you know anything about the Hackworth 'Derwent' type engines which I understand went to Canada?

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Find out next week :-)

@pendremacherald6758 Жыл бұрын

This makes me wonder, would you ever consider covering the pair of steam locomotives lost during the Franklin Expedition?

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

I dont think we know for certain which locomotives they were. There's still a question mark over them, sadly, despite a lot of working having been done.

@pendremacherald6758 Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory I wish there was more information out there. I have only done very basic research, and it was unhelpful and contradictory. The next expeditions should be able to at least confirm facts as basic as wheel arrangements, but with all that time underwater, I do not know what else we will be able to find out.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

@@pendremacherald6758 The level of preservation is really good because the water is so cold. It's an anaerobic environment (no oxygen) which means that most of the usual casues for deay and rot (microbes and bacteria) are not present to cause organic material to decay. Same with other non-ferrous objects such as glass, copper, bronze, brass. Iron however is trickier.Photos from the wreck of Terror still show the 'willowpattern' plates still in the china store, and glass bottles on shelves. The problem, I think, would be getting an R.O.V. deeper into the ship safely to the engineroom.

@TheEerieMaster Жыл бұрын

That thing is honestly kinda ominous 😅 it looks like it's going to fall apart at any moment

@thisisaduck Жыл бұрын

Is the snowplough preserved as well?

@manfredatee Жыл бұрын

Another example of the unexpected benefits of reuse & recycling!

@grahamlane1313 Жыл бұрын

Couldn t someone check the records at national archives for records on all the claimed makers of the loco and see if the plans could be found to give the defo date of it been built and by who if they are still in existance

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

I think if those records did exist, Drs Bailey and Glithero would have done so. Sadly so many firms have no archive. The mining company records exist, but they don't shed much light. Some locomotive building firms, such as Bury, Curtis & Kennedy of Liverpool have gone without a trace - no records at all. And they also built steam ships!

@Pocketfarmer1 Жыл бұрын

Why does the middle wheel have two pin holes?

@Colonel-Commissar_Renik Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a OO Guage model of the old girl in her prime.

@matthewbollinger9205 Жыл бұрын

What’s funny is that the wheels look like sewer hole covers

@zepheris_ Жыл бұрын

Not in the UK though, as those are square.

@jordandorsett3106 Жыл бұрын

It must be fireless

@TheBlueCircle-nw9nl Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t they use a L&M 060 type instead of this old design?

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Because this type of locomotive had evolved in the North East of England, and that was the locomotive building tradition.

@koppadasao Жыл бұрын

Durham? Roger Whittaker..

@edwardvincentbriones5062 Жыл бұрын

So I guess that the SR Q1’s, my favorite locomotive, angled cylinders were not new. I thought it was unconventional, at least from what I can gather.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

Bulleid's Q1 is a very conventional locomotive. It's no different from say Atas, the 0-6-0 with inclined cylinders built by Robert Stephenson for the Leicester & Swannington in 1833, other than size. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJiXfLOW0qeZips.html

@edwardvincentbriones5062 Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Yeah. This video enlightens me. Thank you.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory Жыл бұрын

@@edwardvincentbriones5062 Thankyou! That means it's done its job. yay!

@edscoble Жыл бұрын

Can you make your content accessible by formatting the auto captioning into closed captioning? It is extremely hard to enjoy your content having to keep concentration on the auto captioning and not be able to see your content properly sadly