It's a different type of cold here.

It doesn’t get bitter cold like in the 20’s but for a couple of days in Dec/Jan at nighttime it has dropped into the 40’s and I live by Tampa

As someone from the north, I would agree with this lol

Factor in humidity and wind, it's fair to say that low-40s FEELS cooler in FL than low-40s in Ohio. Regardless of what climate you've been acclimated to! ⛱️🥶🌴

@@C.Justin no sir! I've been in Florida and georgia and their cold is NOTHING compared to the nipple popping cold up here in chicago

Laughs even harder from Canada! LOL

Laughs in Canada

Cold to them is like 65 with a breeze . Its -2 in Illinois right now lmao

i found that pretty clear from the video... i didn't get the impression that the sensors were being averaged at all. he said "it's using my daughter's bedroom's sensor to set the temperature for the whole house". he played a video clip of him changing the source sensor from the wall unit to the remote sensor. at no point did i get the impression it used more than one at a time.

Get an hvac guy to ballance your vents

the motion sensors detect the motion so it will know ppl are still home

Here ya go. itunes.apple.com/us/app/thermo-watch-for-nest/id1299951059?mt=12

it's almost certainly the second one, but you could consider partially shutting the valve in your radiators in the hotter rooms. that way the colder rooms also get more of the hot water, as well as being where the thermostat is getting its temp from.

Take it back as it is faulty

Not really. Each register has one, but nobody ever uses them in Florida. (And in any case it wouldn't really fix my problem.)

Exactly!

No

The sensors just let you control the system based on the room you specify for different times of days, for example you can have it keep your bedroom at the temp you want at night, and the living room durring the day. You can also go to workswith.nest.com/ and check out the smart registers that work with nest(i have not personally tried them yet)

Exactly. ... I don't care so much during the day, but I don't want my kids to freeze at night.

@@justinklrjms You totally missed what I was saying with your first paragraph completely. As for the smart registers, that is intriguing but they are nowhere to be found the site or the link you sent. Should those be a thing, it would make room sensors and smart thermostat much more desirable.

Good to know I will return it

This is my question , couldnt word it , right ! Thank you . lol

Yes, 2:58 in the video

I don't think so? My system is pretty simple.

"these are behind the curve and they are much better options"; i presume you're talking about the nest for one and the honeywell for the other, but there's a fair bit of ambiguity in your sentence structure there. it took me a few minutes to try and untangle it enough to just say this!

You tell it which sensor to trigger the system.

At this point in time you tell the nest what time to use which sensor....... So if you put a sensor in the bedroom and tell it to use the bedroom sensor at night, it will ignore the other sensors & build in sensor at night and only use the bedroom sensor.

Yes modern dad where did you got that

On Amazon a ways back, but it's not on there anymore. Give this a shot, maybe. moderndad.com/szoQ

www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GWIB02A/ref=psdcmw_495326_t3_B073SLD2ZY

Yep.

@@Moderndad hopefully there are instructions included in the box?

When you initially setup your nest thermostat it guides you through connecting to your Wifi and zip code. It gets live temperatures of your area from the internet.

FiFtyBMG _ looks like a slate tile

Yeah. In Florida we have to adjust at least once an hour. :p

Totally agree

Dunno. I've bought a couple of them.

Here ya go! www.androidcentral.com/slate-back-trim-nest-thermostat-actually-deserves

There are many back plates avalible for the nest on amazon

Has to be somewhere like Jacksonville. Think open beach exposed 40 degree weather with wind. Not saying its 20 chicago or NYC cold, but thats still fairly chilly. The big difference is its only two months in Florida.

try checking the wifi connection coz it actually drains the battery if the thermostat oftens disconnects and reconnect to the router. second is. if you dont have a common wire. you may need to install one coz the power from hvac cant sustain enough power to the thermostat. you may charge the thermostat manually using an android charger

Find out which wire is your "Common" wire (C) in mist case it is the blue wire. Go to your furnace open the circuit board cover take picture of the wiring and match it with your Nest wiring that's how I did it. If this correct the wiring your fan problem should be fixed, also make sure you are not under the wrong settings for instance the "OB" connector controls a heat pump you may not have one, heat pumps are on electric furnace I think in my case I have forced gas system. Regardless, if you match the wires with your furnace board you should be ok.

A plastic plate, yeah. The one I use is aftermarket.

@@Moderndad Where did you get that wall plate? Its really nice!

Yes. You can set a schedule, so like 80 degrees during the day and 75 degrees from 7pm-7am

@@kez850 Thankyou. My heating system is just a total mess, so I need to get it all redone from scratch. I think I'll get Nest installed at the same time. I have their smoke alarms and they work great

That's what I do, too, because the Florida weather is such a mess.

all right, so you live in an area the experiences an ice age every year, but in a place that is 90 F+ most of the time 32 F/0 C is cold.

I just snagged one off Amazon. (Been a while so that exact one may be hard to find, but here are some others moderndad.com/szj5)

It's powered by the low-voltage system running from the AC unit.

Great question.. wonder why there is no answer....??

I found it in the Mac App Store its called "Thermo Watch For Nest"

ThermoWatch ... itunes.apple.com/us/app/thermo-watch-for-nest/id1299951059?mt=12

@@Moderndad You're awesome :) . Thank you. Didn't know it worked for mac as well!

i would say it is a problem. i am on my 5th nest thermostat this year. Had a C wire installed last week and the battery is not an issue anymore but the nest decided to stop communicating with my furnace last night. nest sending out yet another new thermostat. this is the last one and i am selling and going with a different brand. i really wanted this system to work because i like the app. at this point i am worried about the thermostat damaging my 2 year old HVAC system. ps i spoke with my hvac guy and he said stay away from the next. nothing but issues

@@lcalvin5601 I greatly appreciate your input. Did your HVAC guy suggest a different smart thermostat?

@@Redridge07 he just said there are a lot of issues with the nest that they are called out and paid by Google. me included. so yes he pretty much suggested going with a Honeywell. all this time over the past year i was under the impression i had an issue with my HVAC system. i have nothing against nest and really want it to work. but how is it possible that i am so unlucky that i have had 5 bad thermostats in a year. no issues during the summer when running AC though just heat.

@@Redridge07 i am hoping to sell the in box new nest coming tomorrow and get a different brand smart thermostat.

@@lcalvin5601 thanks, I will look Honeywell and Ecobee

Look on Amazon, they sell quite a few different backplate for nest thermostats

moderndad.com/szoQ

David Morton yeah, it gets way down to the upper 40s on winter mornings 🥶😆 LOL

When you are in a warm climate, temperature drop enough to form frost in the car and you have no proper jacket and no furnace, yes, that's cold. I can say that because I lived in Saskatchewan, and I once was in Orlando in the middle of May, have to get to gym before class at 9am, so I was at my car at 5:30 am no jacket and trying to "scrap" off the frost with the windshield wiper....yes, it gets "really" cold.

My nest display doesnt wake up when nobody is near by when changing the temp on my phone.....I'll have to check tomorrow when I install a nest for a client.........

Justin Smith mine used to wake up when changing the temp with my phone, and Nest says it’s still supposed to.

@@justinklrjms Have you found anything out yet? If yours doesn't wake up when using your phone contact Nest support, because they've never heard of customers having this issue prior to me.

@@Resist4 tried it on 2 nests, and if I am out of view of the occupancy sensor but can still see the screen, or standing still in front until the screen turns off and I change mode, or change temp through the nest app the screen does not illuminate. Both thermostats are on the newest firmware. (It could be a change on the latest firmware and tech support is not aware of the change yet)

@@justinklrjms Thanks for that info, I'm going to get back with Nest support and let them know others are experiencing the same thing I am. I'm thinking it is a change to the firmware and for whatever reason even their engineers don't know about it. But if you get a chance please call Nest and let them know you're having this same issue. The hope is that the more people that tell them, then maybe they'll look into it more deeply and confirm one way or another.

Me

Yeah. Unfortunately it's just not gonna happen.

I think apple should let me run android instead of iOS on the iPhone since I'm already in Google's ecosystem.

Just use IFTTT

I gave up on HomeKit after one item, it doesn’t play well with others, apple waited too long, I just moved on. I’m in the Mac/iPhone/iPad world, but home automation i leave to Wink,Google and nest. 🤷🏽‍♂️

It's saved us money by making sure we're not heating/cooling the house when we're not home. ... Exact totals vary a lot because of screwy Florida weather.

It save me roughly $300 a year on a 2 bedroom 🏠. Mostly $8 monthly, but it increased comfort and eliminated surprises from having to use the "emergency" heating mode. Getting up out of bed by cranking the heat remotely is priceless. Note, the E doesn't support emergency mode, I have no idea how the flagship one handles it.

Ray Foss I am calling bs on that. What saves people money is setting their thermostats at a reasonable temperature and not dicking with it, also dropping/increasing your temp (based on season)when you go to away and bringing it back to normal when you come home takes more energy they you ever save. Programable thermostats do not save people money. If you want to save money better insulate your home and use high efficiency equipment, not some expensive WiFi thermostat

@@zack9912000 www.energyvanguard.com/blog/50152/If-You-Think-Thermostat-Setbacks-Don-t-Save-Energy-You-re-Wrong

So handy, right? :p

Never..its usually to cover the wall I'd there is some damage or paint missing

No

Lol... I currently live in Florida and now I want to say REALLY COLD... LOL...

Yeah, might not bother if you don't have to worry about heating fees. I'm less concerned with the exact temperature at any given time and more with the fact that it's smart enough to turn off when nobody's home. That's where we really save.

ModernDad and you use more energy then you think you save with it playing catch up then leaving your temp at one temperature. As a HVAC tech with 30 years in the business these “smart” thermostats don’t save people money. In heating season two stage furnaces save a customer money, especially in fall and spring months

@@zack9912000 That's also something I genuinely wonder. Letting the house warm up again in the summer then cooling it down again... Isn't that harder on the AC that just leaving it running at a low level to maintain the temp?

Brian your system doesn’t a cool a home. Your AC collects the heat in the home and rejects it outside. Sorry pet peeve. When a person thinks they are saving money by increasing their temperature in the summer months and then drops it when they come home. The AC uses substantially more energy to remove that excess heat from the home. It doesn’t just have to remove the heat from the air but every object in the home. If people kept their systems properly maintained and set them at one reasonable temperature and then leaves it there they will save money. Adding insulation to a home helps substantially. Hence why I absolutely hate Programmable thermostats, half the time people don’t have a clue how to work them, and they don’t save a customer any money. During heating season a high efficiency two stage furnace will save them money in the spring and fall months where they don’t need 100% BTU out put to make setpoint

@@zack9912000 Well then, I guess maybe I should just stick with my thermostat and call it a day! Thanks for the info!

I would say not, you can just get a old fashion mechanical thermostat, you are one of the lucky ones that does mot mind turning their cash into cold air just for the peice of mind knowing what temperature your house is at all time. And thus far have avoided freezing up your unit be setting your thermostat so few below 68°f Must be awesome to be you.

Justin Smith I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but anyways thank you for your reply. 🧐

@@Ragnar0321 i'm in a similar boat to you, i keep mine set at 23º all the time and there's almost always somebody in the house. but i'm still somewhat interested in the nest for two reasons: 1) on the rare occasions all of us do leave at the same time, it will take the chance to save some power, while preemptively ramping back up (down?) to your desired temp before you even get home again. 2) its use of local weather and correlating your temp response graphs to that local weather. that way if especially cold weather is coming up it can nudge the heat up just a little bit in advance, instead of waiting for it to actually get cold from the weather before initiating any heat at all. that second one is especially important to me. since it can take 15-30 minutes after the room gets cold before it warms up again, on a traditional thermostat, it can still lead to unpleasant environs even when you just leave your thermostat on one temperature all the time. right now, i know it's cold out because it suddenly gets cooler in here and i hear the thermostat click, and i need to wait for the heat to run it back up. but theoretically, using the weather data, the nest would start running in anticipation of the cold patch instead of simply acting in a reactionary manner. of course, for your situation, you would just have to reverse my temperature words to their opposites. a particularly hot patch hits. the sun suddenly comes out and makes all your windows hot or something. does your current A/C system take a few minutes to catch up with the extra heat when that happens? or does it deal with it quickly enough that you don't notice? if it deals with it so quickly you don't notice a lag period like that, and if you're not interested in catching those few times a year when everybody is out of the house, then i would concur that you probably wouldn't need one. but, those are my two reasons for being personally interested in such a system (nest or ecobee, i don't really care) even though i personally also don't really touch my thermostat. it just seems like it'd keep things more consistent, plus automatically catching those times when the house does get left empty (which are rare enough that i don't have any kind of habit built up to turn things down).

Hello, I have this kind of wall plate. I could send you one for free if you could review it : )

Richard Shelton Following, same question.

I tried to put one in on a furnace with a variable speed fan will not work with that modern of the furnace

I live in Ny and have new Furnace and central air both 2stage and yes the nest works it even tells you which stage your in

This nest works with up to 2 stages. Will not work with a Variable speed one though...

Yes

It hit -30 here a week ago in iowa.

Try -40 celcius... Of your going to one up someone make it decent

Really what happens is it "feels" really cold because you are so used to the warm weather. I went to California on vacation and after being there a week went out late at night. I laughed when I was told to bring a jacket because it would drop down into the 60s. Sure enough I was freezing my ass off in 60 degree weather.

When you live in a place that goes from 110 in the summer down to -60 with windchill in the winter its hard to sympathize

r/gatekeeping

@@Inbal_Feuchtwanger and it works the other way too. spend a while in scandinavia or canada or somesuch place? come back to the uk and suddenly -5ºc is single-layer short-sleeved tshirt weather.

Sebastian O correct, nest refuses to give us HVAC access to detailed control parameters to set them up exactly for the homeowners individual setup. We are not paying them the huge fee for that pleasure. They are a constant problem for us and we refuse to install those expensive turds. We clean up the messes homeowners do by cooking their systems because they don’t have a clue what they are doing or what little settings controls it gives them does causing huge headaches

@@zack9912000 I'm pretty sure most home owners would be happy to give you access to their nest app.

Sebastian O you not understanding what I am saying. There are detailed control parameters that we adjust in digital thermostats that the nest doesn’t offer anyone access to besides their support team. Honeywell for examples let’s us completely fine tune it for any application it’s being installed in to prevent issues like short cycling that will damage your system. Again homeowners want to think this is a DIY project till they fry something or it completely fails to work as advertised and we have to explain in crayon to them why they wasted 250 plus dollars What I am talking about goes way beyond what your stand setup questions it asks you, every single home is different and some cases the thermostat must be fine tuned to work effectively for that persons HVAC system to operate as designed. What I am talking about has nothing what so ever to do with their app.

@@zack9912000 what about ecobee thermostat? Any better?

Sebastian O they are far superior and Officer vastly more options and controls to the homeowner