Ep. 3: Lumen Gentium & The Church

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11 жыл бұрын

"Lumen Gentium" -- how did these radical words resound in the face of the lifestyle shift of the 1960s? Top theologians Richard Gaillardetz, Msgr, John Strynkowski, Rev. James Massa, Sr. Sara Butler, Rev. Robert Imbelli, and Rev. Cuong Pham offer commentary.

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@JoeHinkle11 5 жыл бұрын

This sounds awesome. I want to have my job be discussing theology at coffee shops.

@peaveawwii1 5 жыл бұрын

THEY PAY BIG BUCKS. MUST BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE LIKE THAT

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@peaveawwii1 materialistic approach. At first, they should improve the sacred music and philosophy ...

@peaveawwii1 2 жыл бұрын

@@pascalguillot2737 I hope I live that long

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@peaveawwii1 Métaphore, my 🐕 dog, bites all charismatic happy clappy. The fact is, though his oecumenism, organist and Gregorian singer....

@Zeldarw104 5 жыл бұрын

excellent information to be continued...🤔

@josephmwangingure3259 3 жыл бұрын

Waooh thanks to the contributions of those wonderful bishops who shaped the church and the world forever.

@KaiseRex42 10 жыл бұрын

Another great video. Thanks for sharing these great vids.

@pangpenphom1561 2 жыл бұрын

Worth watching

@hollisbradshaw1554 3 жыл бұрын

The coffee bar appears to have been a good idea to spark off deliberate needed conferences. The meetings with the great theological minds gathered there had to be must have too.

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

One could think that the liturgy music was since composed in bars ? A French organist

@pfpbilltown7919 10 жыл бұрын

It would be wonderful if the image of the circle could also be manifested around the altar at the Eucharist. That would give tangible witness to what you are speaking about.

@zaema21 9 жыл бұрын

Would be watching because of our up coming exam. :3

@hl1377 4 жыл бұрын

2:18 - (future) Cardinal McCarrick. What a disgrace.

@two-moonz2953 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing that pervert out. He is not the only one.

@firebearva 4 жыл бұрын

We became a hybrid Protestant church.

@markcharron 3 жыл бұрын

I'll say, no one sounds more protestant than a Traditionalist who denies that the Church is the Authority of God, as they do all the time.

@ginterka381996 3 жыл бұрын

@@markcharron lol

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@markcharron I have protestant and Anglican family or friends very shocked by the happy clappy liturgy...

@markcharron 2 жыл бұрын

@@pascalguillot2737 Yeah I suppose people should be miserable and unhappy at Mass.

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@markcharron among intellectuals and British artists who asked Paul VI the right to preserve the tridentine mass were Agatha Christie, Graham Greene.... and two great Jewish musicians Yehudi Menuhin and Vladimir Ashkenazy (...) In 1971

@251162efw 11 жыл бұрын

There should be more than a US view in this series. Great idea, but limited in scope.

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

Hello from France where the country style liturgy music doesn't feed every one .... Childish happy clappy

@pigletphilosophy8057 3 жыл бұрын

I really like this series :)

@sojutime 9 жыл бұрын

I've got a novel idea. Why don't you put the videos in order so we can watch Episode 2 after Episode 1?

@peaveawwii1 5 жыл бұрын

I COULD NOT FIND EPISODE I OR 2. CATHOLICS

@griffbernard 6 жыл бұрын

There is so much evidence from Canon law experts to completely refute this version

@andersonbush1130 5 жыл бұрын

griffbernard what do you mean?

@titusrozario1524 3 жыл бұрын

Video doesn't showcases the heretic part of Lumen gentium which are the below: 1.we got two realities mentioned which is church of Christ and catholic Church in lumen gentium,before Vatican 2 teachings says it was one,which is one holy catholic and apostolic church beyond which there is no salvation. But in Lumen gentium it depicts everyone is saved neither he is catholic or non catholic. 2.It also says there is salvation to Jews since for them promises were given and with whom christ was born according to the flesh. 3.It also accepts Muslims will be included for salvation since they hold the faith of abraham,along with us adore the one mercifull god,who on last day will judge mankind.

@shawnm4189 2 жыл бұрын

There are no heretical parts of Lumen Gentium.

@nancyraboin647 4 жыл бұрын

Sadly enough the new code of Cannon Law has not been taught to the people, nor promulgated from the pulpit. It is the best kept secret that enables a dysfunctional hierarchy/ clergy. How rich we would be if this was discussed and lived out. The laity continues not to be recognized for who they are as gift to the church.

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

They feed us with coca cola music ... How could we think ?

@joelobe187 2 жыл бұрын

@@pascalguillot2737 wow! Great!

@joebloise3126 4 жыл бұрын

search; the gnosis of karol wojtyla

@paulfaigl8329 4 жыл бұрын

will do. Curious what will it be about...

@paulfaigl8329 4 жыл бұрын

This is a sugary video. Visually Ok, but content-wise empty. Like a promotional, propagandist long and actually quite boring clip. 7 years since this video was made we see the results. Was is Holy Spirit (17:04) guiding the Church or inflated Egos of the Managers of God? I won't give any marks to this corporate propaganda. But in my heart I cry.

@resipsaloquitur5562 4 жыл бұрын

Believing that any man, whether it be a Bishop or Pope or Priest, is infallible begets corruption and dangerous zealotry.

@paulfaigl8329 4 жыл бұрын

and we see the consequences of it now.

@okumaa122 3 жыл бұрын

You are then an Atheist? Or pagan/protestant? The old and New Testaments were guided by God. Not that every word written is what God might of, written/spoke, simply that which was written was of Gods will. Jesus promised to be with His Church until the end of time., and the Gates hell shall not prevail. ie err. This promise is no stranger to the same promise of Moses or the other Old Testament prophets and the miracles God performed using these men. Obviously if you don’t have faith, that’s ok...Hell awaits... if you call yourself a catholic and don’t believe what The Church teaches, your not catholic and unless you convert your mind and heart to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.. you will go to Hell. There is only One road to the Father.. Catholic Church founded by Jesus.

@resipsaloquitur5562 3 жыл бұрын

@@okumaa122 Cool story, bro.

@okumaa122 3 жыл бұрын

@God be with you please read the following and please do further research on your faith... assuming your catholic. What you wrote is not what The Church teaches. Excerpts on the Church by Monsignor Joseph Fenton “.... He [Christ] rules the disciples within the Church invisibly and directly. At the same time His divine teaching within the Church makes it perfectly clear that the judgments and the commands of the Church officers who hold their position by reason of the commission which He has given them are to be accepted by the disciples as His judgments and His commands. This presence of Christ in the Church as its supreme though invisible Ruler is the guarantee of and the reason for the Church’s indefectibility. It is manifestly impossible that a society within which Christ governs until the end of time can ever lose its identity or the substantial character which He gave to it....” “.. The presence of Christ teaching within the Church is the cause and explanation of the Church’s infallibility. It is obviously impossible for an institution within which Christ will dwell until the end of time and from which He teaches to do other than set forth His teaching accurately...” Humani generis and the Holy Father’s Ordinary Magisterium Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent, since in writing such letters the Popes do not exercise the supreme power of their teaching authority. For these matters are taught with the ordinary teaching authority, of which it is true to say: “He who listens to you, listens to me”; and generally what is expounded and inculcated in Encyclical Letters already for other reasons appertains to Catholic doctrine. But if the Supreme Pontiffs in their official documents, purposely pass judgment on a matter up to that time under dispute, it is obvious that that matter, according to the mind and will of the same Pontiffs, cannot be any longer considered a question open to discussion among theologians. Conclusion: The Humani generis likewise adverts to the fact that, when a person hearkens to the authoritative teaching of the ecclesia docens, that person is actually hearkening to the voice of Our Lord Himself. Once again, it takes this means to remind us that the Church does not teach in this world other than as the instrument and the body of Jesus Christ. The man who quibbles about the Church’s doctrinal authority is finding fault, in the last analysis, with the means by which Our Lord brings His divine truth to the children of men. There can be no intelligent appreciation about the Church’s magisterium except where and insofar as this paramount fact is taken into consideration. ===================================== It is not to say that everything that a Pope says is infallible, no, he may in private speech say or write something that is contrary to the faith, although unlikely. What The Church does teach is that her teachings, canon laws and even societies created within her walls ,by the true Popes, are infallibly certain to be safe for the whole of the church.

@pascalguillot2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@okumaa122 do you think the happy clappy are inspired by a spiritual growth ?