Wow! Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. I really appreciate your insight and I feel what you are saying. I am SO glad you found your path. Thank you so much.

I learned as even someone with Asperger’s the church is nothing more than a tax exempt business that judges you while they do shameful shit and think it’s ok. It’s a toxic environment and they’ll get rid of anyone who will have an affect on their future donations.

I can relate to many aspects of your story. ❤️ You're not alone.

I'm a man but I feel you

The thing is just like what the Bible says you can’t have faith in man they will always let you down. It’s one thing to have actual wonders an doubts of faith vs leaving God all together because of humans.

wow! a marquez reference😀

This is a very good analogy.

Judging by a comparison that includes two works of fiction and one ancient symbolism, one would think you're falling on the preachers side, actually. At least more so, with the given dichotomy (where preachers appear to be more on the flowery and poetic side than the precise and analytical).

Science makes sense least they got pictures

This is a nice story but also a false dichotomy in a way. An independent path may appear more like a monk than a preacher, though the difference may be only timing on when we check. Learning at our own pace can mean that we must move toward an esoteric over standing.

not a flaw, not a god, just... a different brain that isn't susceptible to that form of manipulation or perception error as much as the "normal" populace.

The modern notion of "feeling" the love of God is a misunderstanding. The Bible actually tells us to avoid sensuality. I always felt like something was "off". I didn't realize what it was until I actually read the Bible. Once you do, you'll realize how many people today don't actually understand their own faith. Biblical illiteracy is rampant in the modern church.

I often joked about howsome people were born with a "Believe in God" circuit in their minds, and I never got one.

The gospel says that love is not a “ feeling”. It’s a choice to show thoughtful action even when there seems to be no reward. Christ died for us on the cross because he loves us. I didn’t always trust my own understanding or feelings and I’m not on the spectrum. It is a difficult concept to comprehend though.

I get sensory overload too in church but not as badly as you. I made a youtube channel where I quietly, and slowly narrate books of the Bible. No background music no words on the screen just my voice. I made for it us ( autistic) people to get some benefit from it. Id be grateful if you'd check it out someday. x

I've found it quite interesting that a few people in the comments section of another KZfaq channel have mentioned converting to Catholicism or orthodox Christianity, as has one of my co-workers. I've been a pretty strident atheist most of my life, but find religion pretty fascinating. I love the beauty of elaborate churches and temples, and was pretty appalled to read about the dissolution of the monasteries, Puritan destruction of churches in the English civil War, church burning in the Spanish civil War and so on. On the other hand, when it 16:20 comes to beliefs and practices, Catholic-style religion has no appeal for me, and I'm definitely more sympathetic to a bare-bones simplified belief system. When I started to learn to meditate, I initially got involved with a Tibetan Buddhist group, and quickly started to feel the elaborate ceremonies and long-winded prayers were a waste of my time. I switched to vipassana meditation, which I've stuck with ever since. When the teacher on one vipassana course asked me how vipassana differed from Tibetan practices I said "this is Dhamma for protestants. They are Dhamma for Catholics". I'd be interested to find out what forms of religion are more appealing to autistic people.

@farmingwithautism9159 this world environment can be very disorientated

I went to lifepoint (a huge mega billionaire church) as a kid and the concerts were so annoying. How loud it was and crammed mixed with the music being ass made me hate church

Shows how much disdain priests have for women when they'll take the side of an atheist man over a faithful woman.

@@geraintwd​⁠​⁠Likewise when they take the side of an abusive cheating Christian man over a faithful, loving atheist woman.

Don't let that take you away from serving and living for Jesus Christ. Don't worship the creation, worship the creator.

@@user-fs3hs4xb6cand of course someone's proselytising in the comments.

You may love theunsundayshow the guy was a preacher for 40 years but he walked away from institutional Christianity. It’s liberating to realize the simple truths he puts forward from scripture that liberate you from the stresses of the fake church propaganda and programming and let’s you free yourself from that to just be loved by God. It’s wonderful his perspective. Helped me being autistic so maybe it’s good for you.

I was lucky enough to get kicked out of Baptist bible school at six. Studied most religions since. Glad you're healing 🤗

@@lainecolley1414same! I refuted the virgin birth, and proceeded to tell my 1st grade Sunday School class where babies come from😊

@@ahsokaventriss3268 😄

things like this are what did it for me. Can got not stop the terrible things happening to people? then hes not really all powerful is he? can he stop them and doesn't? then hes cruel and doesn't deserve worship. That or he doesn't exist at all. I remember reading about some literal and figurative satanic cults when doing a religions class and it made so much more sense to me. There was a cult that believed in the literal existance of satan (the church of satan doesn't believe in any of that its just a metaphor for rebellion) and it said that they thought god was a tyrant and he was the victor so he got to write the history and paint lucifer as the bad guy, when he had actually fought against god for us. Now I was atheist since high school, but I thought "if I could believe in christianity I would have to agree with the satanists".

I do question Mans Authority and have never been inclined to become a full fledged member of any church. That being said I don’t have issue at all with Gods Authority but it definitely took drastic means to get me to the alter.

@loraliecataldi1975 I have no issue with God's authority either, though I do take issue with how far the church and it's preachers claim to know the true motives of God 😏

The great thing about the LDS church is that it’s true and that means 1: God knows you and what’s in your heart 2: your not dammed to hell for not going to church. So do what makes you feel comfortable. You’ll still be ok in the end.

Glad you found your way out eventually and are at peace. Glad your kids rejected that cult too. It's nothing more than a superficial elitist club that manipulates you into doing things for them by shaming you if you don't. They take up way too much of your time and money too.

@@scottyproctor3386having tried to conform to the LDS church for 40+ years, I finally realized I needed to take care of my mental health and step away. I feel so much better now. I respect your opinion that you believe in the truthfulness of the church. For a long time I felt so confused about why I didn’t. Now I’m learning more about myself and my autism and how I perceive religion and God. It’s a healthier place for me.

​@@scottyproctor3386 HAHAHHAHAAAAA honestly, its one of the most obviously false religions on earth, except perhaps scientology. 1. god would need to be real to know things 2. no one is damned* to hell, ever, there's no evidence its a real thing.

Church is a gnostic modeled system ironically. It’s a hierarchical system. Neurotypical have even perverted religion lol.

As an autistic Christian, I'm so happy to read this 💖

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So sad that those type of men run this country

Mormonism was a haven for me until it wasn't. It offered many things that I once thrived on. A mission is not well adapted to many autistic people. Respect for people who wish to live their lives in it. Respect for those who found their way out; it's not an easy or encouraged path. After watching this video, it's clear to me why some of the social challenges and opposition to what seemed to me as scientific and logical thought were reasons I knew I wouldn't feel comfortable there, especially given immense pressure from family members. I did hear a few short phrases in the video that reminded me of the Mormon faith, which isn't surprising as it appears he may have had a special interest with a large number of religions.

If you think you go to hell just for being lgbt, then you never understoof Christianity. It's not sinful to be lgbt. It's sinful to engage in lgbt actions, but everybody sins.

I have read about so many other people who have also said the same about the Mormon church. It is definitely a cult and has caused a lot of harm.

@@scary5455 Stop. Love shouldn't be considered sinful.

John 15:18-20 "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Don't let the world cause you to stumble. Don't let the world make you feel like a 'bigot' Keep serving our lord and saviour Jesus Christ. He loves you deeply. Blessed are those who endure until the end. Be bold for Jesus don't ever be ashamed. God bless you❤

There’s no such thing as “high-functioning autism.” It was never an official medical label and was always used as a reductive descriptor that falsely painted the autistic spectrum as a linear functioning scale and suggested that no autistic person (whether labeled “high-functioning” or “low-functioning”) could ever measure up to a “fully functioning” neurotypical. You’re autistic, period. Your individual traits don’t make you inferior to neurotypicals or superior to your fellow autistics.

Amen!

Amen 🙏🏼

Amen and thank you, Brother Owen! Same here. 💙🙏🏽🫱🏽‍🫲🏼

Amen!

All pastors are narcassists and scam artists.. Don't feel bad tbere is no God.. Leaving the church saves you from abuse.

I went through the exact same thing. Just curious, where was that church located? Mine was in Michigan

​@@spurzo-thespiralspacewolf8916 I went to a cult school, run by an IFB Baptist church in Mt Clemens in the 80s.

Well obviously you will be shunned for leaving something good, just as vegans would shame you for going back to eating dead body parts.

@@scary5455 I've never had anyone mistreat my children because of how I chose to eat. I've never had people who said we were family talk about me to others as someone who is "vomit" because of how I ate.

I totally get your point cause I really really don’t like people of my belief that go like “it’s like this and not otherwise”, when the religion I’m a part of has seen so many scholars that approached it in a study like manner and logical manner. So I cooked a version of what I would call my “branch” it’s more logical, it makes sense and it’s fascinating because I never agreed with how everybody around me views it.

I think about how many parents and clergy keep repeating things like "Just pray harder, bro" and not getting results. They find reddit and conclude it's all 2000 years fairy tales.

It‘s not lying when one truly believes in their religion. Besides refusing to answer questions is another issue.,,abuse is always wrong

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Me too! And it is so difficult for most people to understand my interest in religious history and texts since both religious and non-religious people have issues with my academic interest either way!

Prisons are built with stones of law. Brothels are built with bricks of religion. William Blake. Those words changed my entire life. Anyone else who understands this? 24:16

Myths strive to transcend a culture as you can see in Greek mythology. Some might have been caricatures of real things in life like the Cyclops and/or what seemed to be reflected in reality as in Greek philosophy. Of course myth was amplified and philosophy simplified. Yet many of the mythic stories including superheroes esp like Thanos is about good and evil. Evil will destroy earth and a Hercules or a band of superheroes need to battle the evil darkness. Perhaps the Bible gets closer to defining reality. Wherein most myths have 40% truth mixed in the Bible has 80 or 90% truth; that reality is represented more even over Bhagavad Gita or Dharmic/Tripiṭaka. I love archaeology and there's a lot of evidence being found for the paleo-Hebraic, Solomonic and Daric periods. Even the Tower of Babel ruins- probably considered a myth by you - can be viewed in Iraq. How much evidence is there for Hinduism, Bhuddism, Jannism or LDS...?

Agreed 100%

If you believe you’re right and that you have the truth, wouldn’t it be selfish to keep it to yourself?

like those dying of "suddenly" who had blind faith and fear? chrion last "love the eternal bargin"

I just have to say, study of the Bible, with someone who actually knows what it's about, and uses only Bible verses to answer Bible questions, can help clear some things up. My religion rewards curiosity. Some real Bible answers concerning some of the topics you mentioned: (yes, I CAN back all these up with scriptures) * Blind faith is not encouraged. The definition of faith, in the original language, is presented in legal terms (evident demonstration), as having the title deed to a property you have not yet seen. Hebrews 11:1 "Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen." Asking questions and finding the truth are encouraged. We are supposed to seek "accurate knowledge" and "examine the scriptures" and "test the inspired word". Proverbs 14:15 "The naive person believes every word, But the shrewd one ponders each step." Acts 17:2,3 "So according to Paul’s custom he went inside to them, and for three sabbaths he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and proving by references that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead, saying: “This is the Christ, this Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you.” " Acts 17:11 "11 Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thes·sa·lo·niʹca, for they accepted the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so." Romans 12:1 "Therefore, I appeal to you by the compassions of God, brothers, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason." Colossian 1:9,10 "That is also why from the day we heard of it, we have never stopped praying for you and asking that you may be filled with the accurate knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual comprehension, 10 so as to walk worthily of Jehovah in order to please him fully as you go on bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the accurate knowledge of God;" Hebrews 14:1 "But solid food belongs to mature people, to those who through use have their powers of discernment trained to distinguish both right and wrong." The carefully examining, the power of reason, discernment, accurate knowledge and comprehension, are all seen as goals to aspire to have or use. Blind faith would not fit with these admonishments. People who expect blind faith either don't know the answers, or know them, and don't like the implications, if they're not teaching things directly from the Bible. * Why so many contradictory viewpoints if they're all christians and supposedly base their teachings on the Bible? The Bible warned about an apostasy that would rise up from the early congregation, teaching commands of men as doctrines, appearing to be true, but in fact, being false. People would gather many teachers who would "tickle their ears" with things they wanted to hear, while they turned away from what the Bible teaches, because it would force them to change how they lived their lives. This would last for centuries. In the "last days", the distinction between those truly serving God, and those not, would become blatantly obvious as things were cleaned up, creating a people for his name. (this would take a bunch more scriptures to explain in detail.) * "Eternal torment in hell" is not a thing taught in the Bible. Death and "the grave (sometimes translated hell)" will be destroyed in the lake of fire that is called "the second death", which offers no hope of release - things thrown there are gone forever. 1 Corinthians 15:26 "And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing." Revelation 20:14 "And death and the Grave were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire." Souls die. Ezekiel 18:4 4 Look! All the souls-to me they belong. As the soul of the father so also the soul of the son-to me they belong. The soul who sins is the one who will die." A dead person cannot do anything that a living person can do, such as think or do things, or suffer. Ecclesiastes 9:5 and 10 "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten." "10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going." * Heaven isn't the only destination for good people - those who go there are going for a reason (to rule as kings and priests as part of a limited number who are needed fill roles in that heavenly government, to manage affairs on an earth filled with good people.) (this would take quite a few more scriptures to explain) I've flooded you with quite a bit for now, not even knowing if you'll read this, but hopefully, others who have felt the way you do, will read this and see THERE ARE ANSWERS out there... it's just most religions don't actually teach what is found in the Bible, they teach the commands of men as doctrines.

I remeber hearing my religious mom and aunt discussing how being gay is “unnatural” and as a gay kid with a critically thinking brain, I said “but gay animals exist” and I was pretty much told to shut up and respect the beliefs, because religious belief is an excuse to discriminate against gay people and spread lies, and if you ask questions or challenge the logic (lack of logic more accurately) you are told you are disrespectful

@@Twink6629-lg3teI think a better argument is “It’s natural, but that doesn’t make it moral”. It’s also natural for animals to eat their young, but you wouldn’t use that to justify humans doing it would you? Just because something is “natural”, it isn’t necessarily morally right, and that’s homosexuality.

Did your man and yourself considered to become traditional catholics?

Past tense?

Certainly not every church has ear piercing worship volume!! You should certainly visit a few different kinds that are not interested in having a loud entertaining band. Call around and ask about the worship style of a congregation before going. Some have piano or organ as the only instruments; some sing a cappella. You can find more peaceful, contemplative worship styles. I have found this in many rural churches, as well as Mennonites and Brethren of most types, Church of Christ, Nazarene, Free Methodist and Wesleyan Churches. There are a wide variety of options available - please search, and you will find! 💙🙏🏽☮️

I often wonder if I'll ever feel completely over it. Every day I think of what I missed out on because hellfire and brimstone bullshit made me paranoid. I said if the Total Recall movie happened, I'd buy in, just so I could have fake good childhood memories implanted to overwrite the holy gaslight of childhood.

I was not considered one, but my whole life, I was certainly different. I described it as a "Born without a belief in God circuit."

Sometimes I wonder if I could have believed if I wasn't stuck with the BS.

I agree, in my church we have these books available. The ancient writings of Christianity will fill at least a few bookshelves, I see them every Sunday. I didn’t know these books even existed until I left modern Christianity for ancient Christianity which led me to Orthodoxy. As related to the video, our services are orderly, we don’t get yelled at from the pulpit, just normal speech, no loud bands, flashing lights etc. in my experience, the people seem to be less judgemental than in some other churches, but there is always the chance that someone is being a knucklehead, so just ignore them.

@@bk3720 Contemplative religious services (unlike modern services) are the bomb.

Well even Jesus. Cant be more straight foward and blunt than Jesus. He also got rejected because no body understood him. As an autist, i think its really easy to relate to Jesus

Almost everything you said describes me to a T. I'm just not an atheist.

Thanks for the feedback. I hope your journey goes very well for you.

i want to know the TRUTH, i dont want "faith" seeing what "faith" (such as faith in the governmental systems) has braught us to this point we are now....... just have faith in god! let the elite destroy the planet and turn around and blam you!

Add in the opportunity for creating very structured art, whether that be calligraphy and illumination, or depictions of your god, where you are honing a skill, coordination, that some autists find challenging (others don't - again, we're all different in our presentation of autism), and able to exercise some level of creativity within clearly defined parameters. Personally, I'm not religious, but I am spiritual, and I was never closer to the power of the universe around me than when I was doing something repetitive in the great outdoors, involving animals, with clearly defined goals and parameters, but freedom on the exact way of reaching those goals. Similarly, military life and pursuits are governed strongly by routines, and by rules and regulations, and I thrived in that environment. Not having somewhere to burn off excess energy within my job made simply existing a struggle, so I can absolutely understand why some autistic folks would find the routine and labor of a monastery, nunnery, or temple to be soothing and enjoyable. A medieval me would likely have thrived in one of the same professions I found myself in the modern day - a squire to a sensible and understanding knight.

I find it interesting how the monk class was on the cutting edge of science.

I often joke about when the Southern Baptist Convention will take the WWJD merch, and act Christ like to money changers.

Sorry you went through that. Unfortunately, there are a lot of highly ignorant, stubborn, brainwashed and naive people in Mormonism.

My mother said "You chose to believe it." I said "That's like choosing to dowhat a conman says."

Raised evangelical here, now atheist for a lot of the reasons stated. I can confirm that they absolutely do, along with several other horrible and usually ableist things.

My experience has been different. I've been raised and still am Christian, and while I met my fair share of religious NTs that think we are heathens for not believing like them, and even more so if we've left the church, I've found many who believe that even people who leave the church have hope even if they don't come back to church ever again. From what I can tell, though, to some degree inside and to a larger degree outside my denomination, it's a majority who feel like you said. I just think that there's a significant and growing minority who aren't so toxic about people who leave or choose not to join the church. After all, it's pretty common to say that church should be a home for everyone who believes in God, although acting that way is often another story. Nonetheless, I've seen many churches I've attended start being more understanding.

@@amiebabineau1418 Ableism in the church is really frustrating for me, too. If they even have a reason for it (instead of arbitrary bigotry), I think it stems from a fear of a lack of faith. The Bible says being actuated by that kind of fearfulness is unacceptable, (Rev. 21:8) so that's still a problem, even from their perspective--as long as they actually believe the Bible. This part'll probably sound a little preachy... This is my best shot at expressing a concern I've felt ever since I first heard about ableism. If I've learned helplessness in some situation, (through trauma or other unfortunate means) mislabeling someone's albeit horrible attempt at encouraging me to overcome my learned helplessness as ableism seems like not only accepting my helplessness a present reality, but accepting it as an unchangeable, almost sacred one. I do not want to make that mistake. I anticipate that it would be a painful and limiting mistake that could last a lifetime, and I just want to say something in case it can save you that experience. For me, the solution includes a great deal of introspection to distinguish possible ableism from garden-variety cruelty or even just bad manners. Also, I'm not convinced that I can tell if someone is ableist or just misguided without reading their minds, which obviously I can't, and that helps me give them the benefit of the doubt, while still taking action to limit my exposure to ableism (usually to them in general as a source of ableism in my life). That way, I don't feel resentful or vengeful, sometimes not even a little. Instead, I feel wise and grateful to be learning better boundaries. I hope that you can have the same experience. That said, ableism is still definitely a thing, and I'm passionate about fighting ableism in the churches I attend.

Logic is a great part of Autism and therefore it is necessary to find logic for or against religion. Most of the content I’ve seen is logic against. I believe logic can be applied FOR. There’s a great clip from Young Sheldon season 2, Episode 3, where the notorious atheistic younger version of Sheldon tries to comfort his mother who finds herself questioning the existence of God after a neighbors teenage daughter dies in a car accident. Sheldon’s mother tells him “Faith means believing in something you can’t know for sure is real” Sheldon thoughtfully replies “Did you know that if gravity were slightly more powerful the Universe would collapse into a ball? Also, if gravity were slightly less powerful the universe would fly apart and there would be no stars or planets” “Where are you going with this Sheldon?” his mother asks “It’s just that gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be. If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the strong force wasn’t 1% life wouldn’t exist. What are the odds that would happen all by itself?” She asks “Why are you trying to convince me to believe in God? YOU don’t believe in God!” “I don’t” young Sheldon replies… “But the precision of the universe at least makes it logical to conclude there’s a creator” From my own perspective, knowing that matter cannot be created or destroyed, one must ask themselves where matter originated from. It’s not illogical to conclude that there would have to exist a creator that has always existed that defies the laws and rules of physics that put those laws into place. These points fall under your point of religion explaining things that science cannot for some on the spectrum.

I also identify with all of the things you mentioned regarding the sensory nightmare that is church. The lights, music that is way too loud, off key singers, & fellowship. Emotional displays in others is also extremely uncomfortable for me which is common in churches. I detach my discomfort from the journey of others and accommodate myself where I can, as you so wisely suggested. Loop earplugs are a life saver. My next point is the purpose of Autism if there is a creator. I’ll start with one of my favorite quotes: “If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will go its whole life thinking it is dumb.” Autism has a lot of benefits. Logic, perception, empathy, information organization, individual steadfastness, etc. HOWEVER, some of the drawbacks can seem to run counterintuitive to Gods purpose for us. Lack of emotion (love for a relationship with God), introversion (love others as yourself)… I believe God created and has a purpose for each neurotype so this is an extremely difficult area to navigate. I’m no square - I was raised in the church but lived alternative lifestyles for many years which intuitively went against my upbringing. I had a major life event that brought me back into church which I initially fought against on an internal level. I feel contrarian in so many areas including employment, social norms, trends, etc… and church is no exception... but my moral compass exists despite this.

Regarding individual personal experiences in the church: The negative personal experiences that add to an autistics rejection of religion are valid. I personally have had bad experiences with people in the church, just as I have had in school or in places of employment. Below I use biblical references but NONE of this is intended to be an argument of authority. These references are only assumed valid on the God exists side of the debate: There’s a verse in the bible that talks about ‘the way’ being narrow and few that find it. Assuming God exists, it explains the statistical likelihood that more likely, unfortunately, people will encounter ‘not good’ Christians. Some intentional, some unintentional. Because I like to think of everything in charts and percentages, I surmise the people that most closely resemble God on this earth are maybe 3%. The measurement of a person most closely resembling God is subjective and supernatural in a way I can’t claim to quantify but something I perceive exists. God specifically mentions some people that were ‘after his own heart’ like David or even Job. The bible says God was proud of Job. Doesn’t mean 97% of the world will go to hell or that God doesn’t love 97% of the world. God told the sinner on the cross next to him he would be in heaven with him that day. It just means that there are few that really 'resemble Jesus' and thus, there is a greater likelihood of encountering intentional evil or non intentional hurt in the church.

My conclusion for the need of having a nonpartisan approach to this subject is because I believe God gave all of us free will. I’m personally a libertarian and believe people should be given the information to make their own decisions. A Christian should show others God’s love, educate (give them the information), and allow them to make the decision. While I have a personal view and hope that everyone would come to know God I believe in providing logical information and allowing others to make a decision. I believe this mimics the free will God gave us. I strongly identified with so many of your points. The need for purpose in everything (money and tithing or standing and kneeling), autistic aspects of individual steadfastness, lack of teleological concepts (which can also apply to an atheistic sense of destiny or fate), giving concrete and logical explanations of the bible, etc. As a side note because I have no other place to put this point categorically: There are measurable biological and neurological statistics to support the higher instance of non gender conforming/LGBT population in the autistic community when compared to the neurotypical population. Females on the spectrum also tend to have higher androgenous profiles, biologically. This needs to be acknowledged and understood about Autism as a basic fact and included in these discussions. In closing I really REALLY wish there were seminars available for church leaders to learn about neurodivergence. They are just as susceptible to misunderstanding neurodivergence as any other neurotypical. Thank you again for this original and nuanced content. New subscriber here.

@@NeurodiverJENNt I hope you get a channel going in youtube, I'd subscribe to you. I too am autistic, in my channel I simply, slowly, and quietly narrate some book of the bible. Drop by anytime and listen. And let me know when you're up and running

Your point about evolution was also a factor for me - I had already rejected religion by the time I was an adult, but when I went online and saw religious people repeating blatant falsehoods and misrepresenting what science has shown us about the natural world, all in service of their gods, that was the final nail in the coffin. If you have to lie about reality, misrepresent facts, and distort the truth to make your mythology make any kind of sense, then you've already lost the argument.

Christian NPC - "Just pray harder, bruh." I saw prayer as nothing more than placebos and motivational coach BS.

Good points here. It seems they often get lost in the emotions about the thing.

Thank you for chiming in. I love that you are looking to become a licensed clinician. We need more that are neurodivergent and have a solid knowledge of religion. Best of luck to you on your journey.

Theological over historical account as reflection on God’s creative power and His sovereignty over the created order as indicated in the ‘framework hypothesis’ of Meredith Kline, Henri Blocher et al. In the "Theological Perspective" the text is seen as having no relevance in determining the sequence of events at the time of origins. Hopefully that didn't patronize yah more as a summ for others and a signal that I kinda understand. Perhaps it's not a question of Hebrew textual exegesis but rather a hermeneutical conclusion driven by factors external to the text and really doesnt annul the historicity of the account. What do you think Joseph...?

Amazing! I am autistic, and Christianity is a special interest of mine. I also want to spread mental health awareness in the Christian community. I used to be a young earth creationist but last year I changed my mind because theistic evolutionists is compatible with the Bible and makes more sense.

I can relate! ❤

I was not considered autistic until my late 30s. Before then, I was just a misfit and outcast. Also, I saw everything as motivational coach platitudes.

Ditto!

Ahh yes, the parent too proud to accept that their child might be doing harm. Sorry that harm was done to you.

@@scottfw7169 Pastor told me to "ignore it" when I told him about it. You think he would have talked to the bullies.

@@misspinkpunkykat The classic indifference from the NT adults in authority. Another popular answer in my childhood life was, "They tease you because they like you." Umm, NO, you blankety-blank grownups, they are NOT stealing food from my lunchbox because they like me AND they are NOT throwing rocks at me because they like me.

Makes me happy to find someone else autistic who has reach a very similar conclusion as I have. I’m actually sort of Hebrew roots I guess. I loosely associate with theunexpectedcosmology (YT and Discord) and MTOI. The Sabbath was made for autist :)

Nice to connect with you! Stay in touch if you would like.

We are on similar paths. I call God YA'OH. I am glad to see you comment. Many ppl in the comments see religion as trauma and tho I have experienced what they have my journey has brought me mainly with just myself a few friends and God and I am content and very happy in keeping the Commandments of God.

This is why I hated religions and schools my whole life. It was like the world is a huge hammer, smashing me as a squre peg in a round hole.

Imagine thinking that your religion is the only one right and that means pretty much everyone on earth besides the select group in your one country are going to “burn in hell” and same with anyone who questions the belief. Even diffeeent types of Christian’s argue the others gonna burn in hell. Like religion as a whole concept is done in the most toxic way possible.

Mormonism is one of, if not the biggest, fraudulent man made cult on the planet.

I know the feeling. I just concluded that some people are wired for belief and can't imagine other people not wired for belief.

God bless you in Jesus name ❤ God knows your heart. He knows if people are sincere or not whether they have their hands raised or not. As long as your sincere in worship, praise and prayer. As long as your walking/living according to the word of God and you are genuinely serving the Lord Jesus. Keep praying and fasting it brings you closer to God. Work on forming a relationship with him. He is literally your heavenly father

Thank you so much and God bless you❤🙏🏽

I agree wholeheartedly! Religion and the idea of God is bullshit !!