Unrelated but the curse of Zajeff is real, we got massive Emilie buffs

From dps check to Neuvillette check. Trully the endgame we asked for 👏

If Abyss resets had names, this one would be "F*ck everyone who doesn't have Neuvilette"

If only the Pyro Lectors (and all of the Heralds of their ilk tbh) weren’t so incredibly cringe with their massive shields lmao. They’re by far the biggest “do you have this character” matchup check in the game and Abyss would be so much better off without them

Nothing hurts as much as struggling with 12-1 and then seeing Zajef easily clear it in time with roughly the same teams you have

i think people see it as "hard" in a way that this is a big hydro check and most of the hydro units are 5 stars. i cleared this abyss with kokomi taser

I remember after clearing the Abyss Lectors in Chamber 1, I was like “ok, next chamber”, then got confused when it didn’t end and to my horror, I realized there was one more wave of enemies.

There are 12 hydro units in Genshin. 9 of them are 5-stars. Excluding Mona, 8 of those are limited. If you need 2-3+ hydros for an abyss, you're forced to pull 1-2 limited 5-star hydros and required to use Xingqiu unless you pulled even more limited 5-star hydros.

When people say "hard", there's two different types of hard. There is DPS check hard. And then there is mechanically hard, where you have to execute properly or die/miss your damage window. 4.7 Abyss is mechanically easy, there is literally nothing here that is on the same threat level as lector freeze/National or consecrated beast ganban, or strict windows of Wenut. So as long as you DO meet the DPS check (which has never been a particularly high gatekeeper in previous Abyss either), it will feel easy, whereas if you don't it will feel impossible.

Neuvi powerwalks through this abyss like he owns the place.

Yelan saying the fun is over just after zej talking about it was gold

For me, this chambers 2 & 3 were very easy, but chamber 1 was literally hell on earth

I'd say the hardest is the consecrated beast era. but yes this has been the hardest in terms of the most recent one

I agree. My friend also told me this abyss is the hardest. So i decided to not use any OP characters like Neuvilette or Arlecchino : I couldn't 36 stars it. When i had enough i switched to Arlecchino first and Neuvilette second i finished it in like 2 minutes 😂 so yeah, it's a pure DPS check

It's just another Tuesday for neuvillette mains

Did this man really just say Clorinde is less fun than a standard hyperbloom team? The less damage thing doesn’t really matter as I was able to clear the abyss with Clorinde (on Skyward build) super easily. But less fun than a spam nahida NA hyperbloom build? Really?

hard? maybe annoying? definitely.

this abyss is easy tech-wise but its hardest as a DPS check imho

I used Cyno Quickbloom (Cyno/Candace/Nahida/Shinobu) in the front and Raiden Taser (Raide/Furina/Yelan/Jean) in the back. 12-2 and 12-3 were fine, but man 12-1 was _rough._ This definitely felt like one of those lineups where if you don't have the "proper" character(s), you're gonna have a bad time.

Thinking double Hydro Nahida Hyperbloom is any level of fun is certainly an opinion

I found the 3.7 Abyss a little harder because of the cryo and hydro heralds.

I did this abyss with these exact teams except Baizhu instead of Zhongli, I did manage to clear it with 3 stars with almost 1 whole minute left to spare, but it was definitely the hardest abyss we've had. I am f2p and it made me wonder what would I have done if I didn't pull for these characters.

Basic ass Raiden hyperbloom is "more fun" than Chlorinde... I really don't understand what he even considers fun. I would've assumed that normal attacking on Nahida would be less fun that normal attacking on Chlorinde. Like I'm genuinely confused. Guess he prefers mashing the button to holding

community "Neuvillette is too strong and ruins the abyss!😭😭😭" always the community: everyone uses Neuvilette.

Total HP doesn't necessarily mean it's harder. When I saw the HP total my first reaction was "oh, the same as previous Abyss but the HP total is higher because the last boss isn't a low HP high barrier enemy". You can also have 10 Mitachurls which are more HP than a consecratred beast, but the consecrated beasts move around all over the place and don't like to get staggered. I'd say that that one Abyss with a bunch of consecrated beasts in groups of 2 on 12-3 was harder.

i think 3.7 was significantly harder tbh, or maybe its bc we didn’t have the fontaine units

Whales are insane, this abyss is super difficult if you don't have neuvilette or have a high vertical investment in two very specific teams, this abyss was a huge dps check

People are going to yoink sigewinnie ult on the lectors and then asking why their shields are so strong 💀

Since this abyss is really good for nilou im expecting a nilou rerun very soon lol

Low-key I found this abyss fine chamber two and chamber three were relatively easy both halves. chamber one is by far the hardest. I will say I think it’s the hardest chamber we’ve had in abyss, but it still wasn’t that bad. I only had to redo it twice to get it. And I ran the stupidest thing ever. Hu Tao, support elegy ganyu, venti and xingqui first half and second half was Ayato, fishcl, yelan, and Benny.

I love neuvilette so much, he's just so fun and strong, glad i got him on his first run, he's one of the few units that i would consider rolling for constellations for

Man I can’t end the first abyss 12…the pyro shield is so hard on my iPad , I really struggle, like there is time the shield take no damage for like 2,5 sec or more , like my Neuvillet charge attack remove like 2bits …( Mona hydro + yaemiko turret ) is this normal ?

Truly a dps check. Brought both hypercarry arlecchino and neuvillette and went through it like a hot knife through butter. No resets necessary.

1:13 Nahida Hyperbloom truly the most fun team of all time

Alhaitham hyperbloom is eating well with this abyss

My dps kokomi slapped the second half.

I barely made it with the limited teams I have, extremely sad that I have to kick Qiqi from my Furina geo team to get full star on 12-1 but well... Was about to give up but a Childe international speedrun video on 12-1-1 gave me some insight. Ultimately I cleared 12-1-1 with Raiden Collei Barbara Nahida in 1:27 and 12-1-2 with Navia Furina Mona Noelle in 1:31, with just 2 seconds to spare. It took me so many tries since I never practiced running Mona on my geo team. 12-2 and 12-3 I got full stars with same teams but Qiqi instead of Mona the day new abyss arrived. All 5-star characters c0 and all weapons 4-star or below. Nahida and Furina are using 3-star weapons.

Heh it was easy ngl. The 3.7 abyss was way harder.

Thanks for making this it helped me 36 star!

For me this abyss fees easier than the last one, however I’m yet to 36-star any abyss. However, the previous one is the first abyss I’ve ever cleared, because I got Wanderer with c6 Faruzan. Now, my Wanderer is slightly better built and I can actually use Ayaka for the first time since… a long f**king time. I’m getting Furina soon, who will hopefully help my Ayaka. I also have an aggravate Keqing team, but my Keqing still has the same mid-build she had before dendro O_o so she does nowhere near enough damage. I also have an okey Childe Intern team, but it uses both Bennett and Kazuha, who are needed for Wanderer and Ayaka

Hearing you think this is the hardest abyss we ever had is interesting. I did have to change up some comps but I didn't have massive amounts of retries. Just goes to show how progressed my account is by this point. Certainly i've had way more difficult abysses where i've spent hours in them struggling to clear with certain comps or even with good ones. So this might be the hardest abyss of all time but when taking into account progression, there were far worse for me. I think back at the start of 2022 there was a multiple herald / lector abyss with guys on both sides and I only had Sucrose. That was way harder for me back then than this abyss was for me now.

Two past abbysses gave me way more touble... maybe they had just different checks that I specifically had very hard time passing, while a simple dps check is... well, simplier

I guess I should get around to building my neuvillette

Legit can’t clear this abyss. I don’t have an anemo dps or hydro dps. Or electro main dps. Or enough aoe on my hydro and electro subdps characters. So I just CANNOT clear this abyss 12-1 in time. It just takes way too long to deal with both pyro lecters. And the fact that I have to constantly dodge or take a ton of DoT is also not great. Sucrose + xingqiu is also not enough. You need to have both amazing damage AND enough electro + hydro application to clear. And I have the damage but I just don’t have the application. Don’t have neuv. Don’t have furina. Will try again after getting furina but for now this abyss is impossible for me.

I knew this would happen, however designed and tuned him really fucked up the entire game with this one character, now the only way to solve this is to buff every character in the game and make the game harder since they sure as hell can't nerf him at this point. I can't believe they released him like he is and thought that this would be a good idea. the other way they can "solve this" is they start releasing characters as strong as him and dump all the older characters in which case most of the player base I hope would dump Mihoyo to show them a similar lever of respect.

Full starred using Thundering Furry Razor and Mono-Hydro. No Neuvillette. Teams used were Nahida, Xingqiu, c6 Bennett, Razor & Furina, Ayato, Barbara, Kazuha.

this abyss is better than the last, the less i worry about unbreakable annoying shields the better. Yes its hard but what you prefer can't win cuz you don't enough dps? or can't win cuz you don't have enough elemental application and have most of your abilities not work against these shields?

Even with a strong Neuvilette qnd Arlecchino...this abyss is effing tough....it took me 10 tries just to 36 stars this

the 3.7 abyss was way harder than this one and neuvillette didnt exist back then so can't exactly blame it on him lol. people have to accept that abysses both get harder over time due to natural powercreep and get harder as the nation progresses, which is why the x.7 versions are so difficult. but even if neuvillette didn't exist we still had so much other powercreep in fontaine with both supports and dpses so 4.7 abyss would've been difficult no matter what, just in a different way. like 4.8 abyss has the tulpa and 2 geo bosses that neuvillette won't be good against but navia will, it just is how it is. and if natlan has the bennett/xiangling powercreep the community has been begging for, you bet your ass they're going to balance abyss around those units as well lol.

I like that if you don't have a built double hydro team for the second half, you just lose

This made me take C5 Raiden to the scenes again

I felt like I finally get to experience the 36* pleasure but then this abyss came and i can’t even 9 star floor 11 should’ve pulled for neuvilette ig 😭

Will the enemies change next refresh? Or is it two months with the same abyss?

Bro what is hoyo doing with the next patch reruns 💀 I saw the leaks earlier and man, I don't understand what went through their head with fontaine character reruns after inazuma and sumeru re released the characters in order meanwhile fontaine it's completely random it seems About this abyss though? DOGSHIT that is all

is that neuvi c0? or c1?

I'm still mad it resets only once a month now

Even with nilou team i had to use triple hydro cause kokomi hydro app wasn't cutting it. So i used nilou nahida kokomi and xingqui.

I actually found the last abyss + the plunge damage one WAY HARDER, that being said it must be because all my best chars are hydro

Its basically just any electro team top side and any hydro team bottom side. I used clorinde chevy top then triple hydro nilou bottom and it was fine.

That second side looks like prime real estate for my mono hydro team >:]

This abyss top half is so fun with Yoimiya. Second half is so easy with hyperbloom 😊

I don't have Neuvillette and honestly I struggled more on 11-1 than on floor 12 lmao.

After finally clearing this Abyss, I just deliberately sprinted with Arlechino to the water with no stamina, drowned her and Alt+F4ed from the game...

Might be the hardest by numbers but still easy for anyone that’s been playing for a while

Cant wait for Neuvillette + Pyro Traveler teams

nah floor 12th was easy, floor 11th, chamber 1 tho…. like sure venti can fix it but like the first time i went without him and it was PAINFUL

Just built beidou, didn't think she'd come in clutch for this abyss lol

Everyone has different teams and builds so it differs. For me last Abyss took much time as I had to change teams in 12th floor. But this one cleared in one go. All because I was using correct teams and didn't had much mixed elemental enemies.

Interesting, I found the previous abyss harder but that may come due to having a very strong hydro team

How about when Raiden came out during an abyss where energy in the chamber alternated between abundant and severely reduced

I gave up tbh. I wasn’t clearly abyss heralds, kissed by a few second not even counting the wave after them.

Neuvi didn't "ruin" abyss, hoyo ruined abyss by not changing it in any good way for 4 years, no new floors, no new interesting spins or gimmicks on the formula, it's the same 4 floors but each update the enemies get tankier and more annoying, there's barely any strategy involved besides picking the right meta team with the right meta units and just doing enough damage.

The dps check on this abyss may be the highest ever... but I still didn't hate it as much as the 3.7 abyss.... 12-1 1st Half: Two waves of whopperflowers followed by two waves of primal constricts 12-1 2nd Half: Hydro & cryo abyss mages with extra abilities followed by one hydro & two cryo abyss heralds that are up your arse constantly trying to permafreeze you 12-2 1st Half: Terrorshroom 12-2 2nd Half: Thunder Manifestation (This chamber wasn't too bad) 12-3 1st Half: Twin waves of consecrated hydro crocodiles & dendro tigers (hope you're good at dodging & know how to keep away from the sides of the room while doing it) 12-3 2nd Half: Iniquitous Baptist with cryo/hydro/pyro pattern Most of the dps checks weren't extreme (other than the 12-3 consecrated beasts being tankie af), but the shield-break checks sucked pretty hard and the whole 2nd half was pretty restrictive on team building if you were trying to 3* all chambers without switching teams. 12-1 was literally awful with the first half sucking up time & then the heralds on the second half just utterly up your rear trying to freeze you out Honestly, I'll take a hard dps check over that frustrating crap any day

The annoying thing is the waves. Id prefer all enemies at once rather then waves

bro got stunlocked when someone said this abyss is easy 💀

I used Childe International on the 1st half and Arlefuri in the 2nd (with Yelan and Jean too)

my childe international once again flexing its flexibility

This abyss sure is challenging. Especially the first floor.

As usual my Navia team and Nuevillette team saved me 😭

the second and third floors weren't that bad, i used my Nilou team which worked pretty well, but i had to redo the first floor so many times, i just didn't have the hydro application so i switched to a taser team.

3.7 was MUCH worse, fight me

zajef never fails to fall for bait comment 9:10

I think 3.7 is by far the hardest. Every floor was hard

It’s the hardest easy content.

Ah, for me the hardest Abyss is still end of Sumeru with the consecrated beasts. The only thing I have trouble with here is the pyro lectors. First half Alhaitham, second half Childe

Yeah 12-1 wavecheck is ridiculous. I lag too much and lost like 10 secs. Might have to wait for good ping to 3 star it.

It's not even that his damage output is high, it's that a central format of abyss content is "pairs of miniboss enemies where trying to work around unreliable positioning mechanics so you can actually apply damage to both at once is more important than your combat skill, knowledge of enemies, teambuilding, or character strength" and it turns out the bubblebeam is a hard counter to that.

i have a 2+ years international clean streak, but i just can't with this one. they put enemies after the pyro lectors so i find myself without childes skill for those last enemies.... and they're kinda tanky so just the ryptide burst is not enough

Since my furina is on Wriothesley team, i have decided to pull childe just for Neuvillette. Idk if neuvillette hypercarry with childe, kazuha, zhongli is good option or not

The abyss always gets harder the closer we get to the next region. Last year, it was just as bad. Let’s not pretend it’s balanced around Neuvillette when it’s been happening before the character’s release.

Nilou is really good on the second half btw.

OPPA NEUVILLETTE

And then there's open world enemies

pain of getting 2 star in 12-1 but 3 stars in both 21-2 & 12-3 definitely its hard

rosaria literally carried me in the abyss against pyro abyss lector

I actually agree with some of the chat tbh 3.x abysses felt harder imo. For the people saying yeah cuz of stronger units i only used units pre fontain and after that ones with fontain char.

Neuvillette Ruined Abyss could ALSO Put Furina dissatisfied favorite CHaracter matter like Wriothesly

jesus christ I'm not even gonna try it. not on my permanent 190 ping o(-< guess nothing to do besides wait for the imaginary theatre for however long that'll take

as a C6 Neuvilette haver, yes he does. floor 12 feels like floor 10

I'll be honest with you, I've been doing Abyss with the same Neuvillette / Hu Tao teams ever since Furina came out. This is by no means a joke.