Great content guys as always. It’s always so hard to find honest and complete comparisons of multiple brands and their various models without bias of the particular KZfaqr elsewhere. What I have found personally is that the shaft makes more difference than the head. The era of stiff and extra stiff is over and lightweight with more flex is where you gain distance
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for feeding back Stephen, appreciate your input on shafts too. It does feel that weight has become more important than flex.
@legend90187 ай бұрын
Love the video lads, as always, very well done. I think I’ve shared this comment with you before but I’m a moderate swing speed player with the driver (97-100mph), but I do deliver a bit of excess loft and spin. My fitter put me in a Stealth 2+ Driver, 9 degrees turned down to 7.5 with the weight in the center and it has been absolutely excellent for me. The low loft and low spin has offset my high loft and high spin delivery and I’ve gained distance and accuracy in a club I never thought was suited for me with my swing speed and 6.1 handicap. I love that you always emphasize the importance of testing and fitting because you never quite know what will work for you until you try it with a trained fitter. Keep up the good work 🏌🏻♂️
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Legend, really appreciate your feedback as always. Great you've found a set-up that works for you. Fitting is so important, we see lots of difference between stock settings and dialing Neil into a loft/set-up which gives his optimal numbers.
@johndenicola21914 ай бұрын
Wonderful information, Ping is new and best Driver for all handicaps. It’s not cheap, but it delivers with its feel /feature / and most importantly the developmental technology . Long/ straight and dependable.
@todaysgolfer4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and input John, appreciate you taking the time.
@stephendibari50107 ай бұрын
Great comparison of the 2024 models. The level of detail you display of the manufacturers specs is outstanding. Just 4 months ago I was custom fit for TSR3 and I love it. Part of me wants to try the Ping 10k and the smoke AI max, but I have to resist the urge!! My wallet says NO. 😂
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your feedback Stephen, really appreciate you taking the time. 2024 is an interesting year for drivers for sure, it's hard not to want to try a 10K model. 👍
@alvermeil58847 ай бұрын
I always enjoy your videos really good solid information. Would appreciate if you could leave the graphs up a little longer. Have you thought about using the data of both of you? I am older, and it would be helpful if you could leave the graphs up a little longer. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to feedback, really appreciate it. Will see what we can do on leaving the data on screen for longer. We have toyed with using data for the pair of us before, but years of testing just highlights how even though Simon is a short but consistent driver (swinging driver at 88 - 89 MPH) his data is much more strike than club dependent. Our feeling is we don't want to mislead anyone so having some input from Simon (after hitting the drivers) is useful for slower speeds, where his data would be very much based on how he hit each product on that particularly. Hope that explains.👍
@craigstevens67727 ай бұрын
You can pause the screen at any point, and take all the time you want to read the graphs.
@davidmann90227 ай бұрын
Will you be testing the PXG Black Ops driver soon?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
We've got our full drivers test coming soon, and we'll be doing more brand videos during the year but for now, you can read our review and equipment writer Ross Tugwood's verdict after his session at PXG. www.todays-golfer.com/equipment/golf-clubs/drivers/pxg/pxg-0311-black-ops-driver/
@orlandogolfguruogg53827 ай бұрын
Great video. Looks like I’m ordering qi10 max 😂🎉
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Don't think you'll go too far wrong with it to be honest. Just make sure you get the right loft.
@chadmatthew32897 ай бұрын
Good information here but can you do a video to go over the stock shafts in these new drivers to help choose the right shaft
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, will see what we can do for you Chad. You mean across all major brands right?
@williamkarlsson57117 ай бұрын
Just what I was looking for!! Big thanks.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Perfect. Thanks for taking the time to say so William. 👍
@AJmuro197 ай бұрын
Love how you present the data 👌
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks so so much for the feedback, really appreciate you taking the time.
@jerrypetersen57397 ай бұрын
I liked your review, but I would hope you would also include the dispersion patterns for all the drivers
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback Jerry, appreciate you taking the time. This was just a first hit of each of the drivers so if felt unfair to include dispersion as were dialling in the heads into Neils spec. We have done further testing since, and you can see dispersion specs on our website link below shorturl.at/tEGJV
@alexbeesley11447 ай бұрын
Great review, Its the cobra range for me... I wouldnt touch taylormade after the stealth drivers were falling apart
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and input Alex, much appreciated.
@windyknot20946 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for closed captioning.
@sgasax7 ай бұрын
again, the most complete and honest review out there. finally someone putting on current gamer's numbers, no one does, as it might not be an improvement.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for taking the time to say so, really appreciate you feeding back.
@andrewfinn36617 ай бұрын
Great review guys and great insight on the new drivers for 2024
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew, really appreciate you taking the time to feedback.
@jimvoelz74447 ай бұрын
New to the channel. Very informative. Thank you. I do have a question. I am currently a 16 handicap on my way to working down to a single digit this year (goal is 9). Currently at 100 clubhead speed, 142 ball speed. Doing personal training and speed stick training and will be at 105 club speed and about 150 ball speed by spring. Do you suggest the "Max version" of these options or the "middle version" between LS and Max for these options for a new driver. I'm looking at QI10, Ping G430, Callaway AI Smoke, and Cobra Darkspeek?
@kev125585 ай бұрын
If you’re expecting an answer, don’t hold your breath. Go to Ask golf nut, he answers most questions.
@jonathanherbert40437 ай бұрын
Hi is there an exact MOI figure on the Ai Smoke Max. Would you say there is a notable difference between the 10k MOI drivers vs Stealth 2022 in terms of forgiveness/ dispersion!?
@chrisimes4787 ай бұрын
9K on Max according to this video! Look at the Max at the bottom at about 8:30.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
It's around 9K. Callaway as you'd expect say not to read too much in to MOI numbers as you want a blend of ball speed, distance and forgiveness. Plus due to how their Ai Smart face is set-up the 'effective' MOI of the Max is higher than the stated 9K.
@jonathanherbert40437 ай бұрын
@@todaysgolfer many thanks hard to keep track of the jargon!
@robertshields62147 ай бұрын
Excellent video but it would be much better if you shared the numbers of each driver. Just my opinion.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Robert appreciate you taking the time. How do you mean on the numbers? There's data for each driver in the video.
@spindles826 ай бұрын
would have loved to see TSR range in this comp. I know its 2023 model but would like to see the numbers
@todaysgolfer6 ай бұрын
We will shortly have a 'Best 2024 Driver' video up that will include the TSR. 👀👀👀
@robertglover12967 ай бұрын
Could you please help me decide which of the 3 Qi10 Head Options I should get. I’m a 62 year old golfer that usually shoots low 90’s. A Cobra Speed Zone is my current Driver. I’m very inconsistent. I hit right down the middle or I slice right. Sometimes I hit the ball too high on a miss hit. A good carry distance for me is around 220-230. Could you please tell me which of the 3 Head options should I get and what loft?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Hi Robert, it's really tough to say for sure without seeing you hit shots. But from what you have said it sounds like the Max could well be a good option. As for loft you really need to go and give them a try yourself or preferably with a fitter. If you currently use a 10.5deg loft driver, start here but also try the next loft down (a 9deg). Keep an eye on spin numbers, shot height and descent angle, plus how the ball speed numbers are little higher as you reduce loft. Don't be tempted to dial a 10.5deg head down to 8.5deg, this just opens the face angle and encourages a slice. If your current driver is 12deg start here and try a 10.5deg. Make sure you try both the standard stock Fujikura Speeder NX shaft (Simon felt it unloaded to early in the downswing) and the Mitsubishi Tensei a stock shaft in the standard Qi10 driver head. Hope that helps.
@scottwatson94797 ай бұрын
Great review guys, I am a high spin player with close to 180 mph ball speed so I have always gravitated towards the low spin drivers despite not being that accurate so I could do with some more forgiveness, so how do you think the 9 degree Darkspeed X (with the heavy weight forward) would perform vs the Darkspeed LS?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks Scott appreciate the feedback. Understand where you're coming from. We've just been hitting the X and LS together this week in different settings. For us at least the X with a front weight setting was spinning a fraction less than the LS and flying a little bit lower, which might not be optimal for you. Try both and see how you get on. Gut feel is MOI won't be too far apart, but just in favour of the X.
@mr752047 ай бұрын
Hey guys great video. I’m a fairly high swing speed player. About 167-170 ball speed and I’m also a high spin player. My G430 LST and I just aren’t getting along at the moment. It’s set to max lowering setting from 9 degree with the stock chrome X flex shaft. Even on perfect strikes I’m still at 3500-3800 back spin. What’s the ultimate spin killer of these models?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
We've done additional testing since the video was filmed, and the Callaway Ai Smoke TD and Cobra Darkspeed LS can certainly cut spin. You can see our test data on all of the 2024 low spin drivers here shorturl.at/eimY0
@normandowd1237 ай бұрын
Good review. As a consumer I will not buy any of these new clubs in protest of the high prices.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and input Norman. Appreciate you taking the time.
@josephdubiel71296 ай бұрын
I have a question. If you order a driver from a company such as Ping and you want it shorter than normal say 44 inches or so do they cut some off the butt end or do they already have well balanced shafts pre made for golfers who don't want a full length driver??? Thanks guys.
@todaysgolfer6 ай бұрын
It depends on the company Joseph. There won't be shorter shafts made for those wanting to play a shorter driver, so some cutting from tip or butt will have to take place. How much depends on the company's ability to re-weight the head so the swing weight remains at a playable level. Hope that helps.
@josephdubiel71296 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Love your video reviews. The two of you are nothing short of terrific. Being only 5 ft 6 inches tall put me in the spot where I really needed a shorter driver for myself. Hence I am having Ping make one for me. Picking up a G 425 Max as they are priced pretty well right now. Jack Nicklaus actually played with a driver under 43 inches. :) I use one at 43.75 inches. Easier for me to control.
@karldann31077 ай бұрын
Hi I swing about 90 to 95 mph with driver and I want to look at an LS model, I strike it mainly in centre, my miss is my fault not squaring the face up, so if I hit it left or right it still comes from the centre as by the strike marks on face tape. I use 10 degree and it goes so hi and drops out the sky with no roll. DO YOU think I could use a Ls model at my speed? I like the slightly fade shot but I'm looking for more roll out.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question. You really need to find a fitter who can help you decide whether an LS driver is for you or not. Which will come through trialling several models. Delivery is really important with LS models as they're usually designed for an upward attack onto the ball, so downward attack angles can lead to generating more spin not less. You have to appreciate LS drivers are designed to lower spin for higher speed players, so it's unlikely they will be your best option, but it's not impossible they could be a solution for you. Go and give a couple a try. You'll soon know if they're going to help or hinder your on game course performance. Hope that helps.
@home4ya7 ай бұрын
like to see Simons chart.... is the G430max going to replace my G400max?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
We're just working on it now, the Best Draw Drivers page on our website will contain all the info you need over the coming weeks. Link below. shorturl.at/ANR46
@randymahony81577 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this comparison now I just have to hit them. Lol
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for saying so, appreciate you taking the time to feedback.
@markusruss22267 ай бұрын
and the new Cleveland launcher xl 2?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
It's just arrived Mark. This is a First Hit video using the models that were available. Our Best 2024 Driver video will include al the latest models and so far the XL2 is looking like a great performer.
@timothywang40837 ай бұрын
TM leads us of in 2024 ❤🎉
@kev125585 ай бұрын
Only downside for this channel is the fact they only reply to compliments with a standard text. Check Ask golf nut, you get a great answer. That said, I subscribe to the TG magazine every month so they aren’t that bad. Just answer more questions guys please..
@todaysgolfer5 ай бұрын
We always try to answer every sensible question Kev, some are harder to fathom than others though. 😆🤣😆
@atfinthehouse86317 ай бұрын
How do you not review and include the mizuno drivers?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Simply because we're still waiting for them to arrive!!!
@davidtomsett7 ай бұрын
Most brands have a standard, a max and a low spin driver now.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Absolutely, we've tested within those three categories for years.
@gregorytatoian41816 ай бұрын
Why not showing hit each club
@todaysgolfer6 ай бұрын
There's hitting shots in there Gregory, are you saying you want more?
@gregorytatoian41816 ай бұрын
Yes,each club hitting
@dewittfiala50215 ай бұрын
You hit the ball so low its hard to come to any conclusion. would like to see this with a 2nd tester closer to 15 degree launch.
@seegarsmkr7 ай бұрын
Boys, there is another 10K monster out there, and I am sure you didn't have access to it as of yet, but PXG has also released a 10K driver which deserves looking into.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. This video was filmed on the 18th December, our PXG heads arrived on the 10th January. We will of course look at doing another video with the PXG's, possibly putting them up against the best drivers of 2024. Watch this space.
@bret30397 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you include PXG?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Only because we tested on the 18th December and our new PXG Black Ops heads arrived on the 10th Jan. We have done further testing since, the PXG 0311 GEN 6 heads were included. The forgiving model results are in a table at the bottom of this page shorturl.at/tEGJV Hope that helps. Expect a further video where we look at the Black Ops heads.
@MASnycli7 ай бұрын
Why no Mizuno ST-MAS?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
This was filmed on the 18th December Marc - we are still waiting for our new Mizuno samples. We will of course hit them when they arrive.
@NovaScene7 ай бұрын
So who won? G430 LST?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
This is just a first hit video. We will have a further Best 2024 Driver video out over the coming weeks. We're still currently testing the models over further days.
@shawnstonecscsfmstpik-moti52737 ай бұрын
Why would you compare an 8.5 to a 10.5 in looking at distance? Of course the 8.5 will spin less and roll out further. It's physics. Wait till you get the proper lofts and heads in if you're doing a true head to head video. 👎
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Because we believe it's the right thing to do when we can clearly see our usual 10.5deg loft is spinning too much (so it's not an optimal setup) for the tester. We show both sets of data so viewers can see the difference. Doing anything else would be misleading...right?
@Foregrlz7 ай бұрын
@@todaysgolfer but Neil got excited by saying the Max head got within 2yds of carry with his Gamer.....what happens with LST @ 8.5?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
@@Foregrlz It becomes unplayable for him as the spin is too low, hence why he's optimised at 10.5deg with that particular model.
@No_Fear_337 ай бұрын
Dispersions?
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
This was our very first day of having all the drivers in the same place at the same time, so we've not shown them for this video. We have however tested all the models again this week and our full results will be out soon. You can view all the 2024 Forgiving Driver data (including shot area) at the bottom of the page below. We're busy populating it into other Forgiving Driver pages before looking at the Low Spin data. shorturl.at/dHIX0
@gregorytatoian41816 ай бұрын
Why not show some hits not all this talking test them on video
@Station2Station-du2gh7 ай бұрын
Ugh, this is the channel where the just talk about specs. Next.
@todaysgolfer7 ай бұрын
Exactly the reason we take time to insert timestamps so viewers can skip to the bits they want to know about. Some like the back story, others don't.
@josephdubiel71296 ай бұрын
Love this channel. Honest well done reviews.
@todaysgolfer6 ай бұрын
@@josephdubiel7129 Thanks so much for chiming in Joseph, appreciate you taking the time.