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@gregorytatoian4181 10 сағат бұрын
Why didn't you show us hitting the drivers👎
@itsmale Күн бұрын
No titleist irons in the test? One of the main manufacturers. I can't take this test serious!
@francisbarden Күн бұрын
Hi have a callaway 7 wood and a 5 callaway heaven wood both excellent both about 15years old..
@BigPapa732 4 күн бұрын
Are the xp forgiving enough for a newer player will they mKe me better?
@petermartinaitis8166 4 күн бұрын
The problem is you can find a ball you like and quite often the manufacturer will change it in some way or discontinue it.
@aaronpritchard4889 5 күн бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR SUCH INSIGHTFUL INFORMATION ON THE LINEUP! Just bought my new pings !
@miken2686 5 күн бұрын
Tried the Wilson Triad at the beginning of this season after playing the Srixon Z Star XV for the last year or two. There's something about the Wilson ball that just works for me. Great off the tee, feels great with irons and is wonderful on & around the greens. I've used it exclusively this year and don't see myself changing anytime soon. At $34.99 a dozen it's an incredible value. Also, I tend to stray from "norms" and the "usual suspects" brands and like something different. But only IF they work. Guarantee I'm the only guy in my foursome gaming a Wilson ball, and I kinda dig that. Coincidentally, I just picked up a set of Wilson Staff CB irons this year and they too are ridiculously fantastic. Using the ball had nothing to do with moving to them as my iron choice, but it's pretty neat that after demoing lots of irons as I considered a new set AND putting a few different balls in play to find what's right for my game, I wound up in Wilson products for both - because they're just damn good. I guess I'm a Wilson guy? Never saw that coming.
@JDSFLA 6 күн бұрын
If you were to use the G20 (introduced in 2012) instead of the G10 (intro 2007) I think that the results would have shown very little difference. G20 shape is much different than the g10 and I suspect much better MOI. I just did my own test yesterday, taking my old G20 to the range VS several of my newer drivers and the G20 in going back into my bag. I used a Swing Caddie SC200 to monitor carry/smash/swing speed and my G20 was giving me 2-5 yards more carry and more consistently hit down the middle.
@3piecespicycards930 10 күн бұрын
Been using the Nike Sasquatch Tour Driver from 2006 since High School. I can carry it 285 on the simulator with low 170’s ball speed. Just bought a Cobra Aerojet LS from 2023 after doing a lot of research about older vs newer drivers.. Will report back once I hit the Cobra.
@tomdelia 11 күн бұрын
Another great video. Very informative. Awesome duo. A++++
@DPK12 13 күн бұрын
Hi have you reviewed the L neck model
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
We haven't sorry.
@kooijbas 13 күн бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks for all your efforts.
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for saying so, appreciate you feeding back.
@Nonfortiscedtenax 15 күн бұрын
Best golf tech channel on the KZfaqs. Quality guys. Thnx
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for the feedback, appreciate you taking the time.
@be_671_5 16 күн бұрын
That was an amazing test on golf balls. Would’ve loved an additional putting test
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, do you mean on a putting robot?
@jgaulorr 16 күн бұрын
This is a terrific video! Since it's a year ago, how does the 2024 lineup compare to these listed? Thanks!
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, there's a few HL irons in this years high handicap iron video if you're interested. Link below. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hd-HedSZtM3dg2w.html
@jgaulorr 13 күн бұрын
@@todaysgolfer thanks!!
@CatNash007 17 күн бұрын
Ping i530?
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
They hadn't been launched when we tested for this video, apologies. We have filmed this Which Ping iron suits you video since... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btyHopan3NzQgKM.html
@roblancaster2036 18 күн бұрын
What irons/hybrids would you recommend for ultra high handicapper (33) with very high swing speeds. Fats, thins, tops, big slice, cant close club face, lessons and countless drills arent working. Swing goes back to old swing even after 1000's of reps. I'm actually getting worse with more practice. I have game improvement clubs. When i do strike them well i have no problem sticking greens. My spin and launch angle is a bit too high and landing angle on the top end of acceptable with my clubs. In the end distance makes no difference to me. I want to hit the ball im play and lower my scores. Is there a magic club? I dont care at all about how it looks. Im oretty giod with 8 iron thru gap wedge and two putt a lot. Short game is good but anything 7 iron and over is just out of control in all ways.
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
There isn't a magic club out there Rob, sorry. But if you have plenty of speed, you don't need to worry about playing strong or standard lofts you certainly don't need HL models. If we were spending our own money we'd be looking models like the Ping G430, TaylorMade Qi and Callaway AI Smoke, all of which are good forgiving models. Hope that helps.
@SoAmaazing10 18 күн бұрын
I feel the clubs slipping on my down swing because of the sweat on my right hand. What grips do you recommend for that? Cord? I have small hands.
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Which grips are you currently playing with?
@rk-ez6ch 18 күн бұрын
Absolute trash!!!! Feet killers!!, i have 3 pairs...im trashing all of them!!!! Only worn each about 3 times
@barrygoodson4952 18 күн бұрын
How come you never see Wilson Staff irons in these videos ? Wilson is making great stuff !
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
The Wilson Dynapower are in this video Barry.
@barrygoodson4952 18 күн бұрын
I still play one in 2024 and don't really give away anything compared to the new drivers. I had a M4 that was slightly longer but not quite as easy to find the fairway with.I will play it until I find something thats really much better which has happened yet.
@pablitomaranz 19 күн бұрын
Driver vs driver Is 11,5 big weigth foward...
@courtneyrager2166 19 күн бұрын
Great video Adam! 👍🏼 I know you’re a busy man, but would love to see more content!
@WelshWizard-n6l 19 күн бұрын
Good video, but shame you didn't mention which were forged or not and price
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, there aren't many forged wedges out there these days, will try to include prices next time around. 😃😃😃
@symboh6492 19 күн бұрын
Can you explain the shot area results in more detail please? It's not as if pro's can't consistently put tour balls on a dime, despite some of them getting a bad result here. Doesn't make much sense to me.
@R6shark214 19 күн бұрын
He’s talking about the area of dispersion. Saying ball “A” is landing within an area of “X”square yards consistently. They’re just showing that under these conditions ball “A” is landing consistently within this area. We all know in real world conditions wind and minor variations in ball striking will effect dispersion but these numbers are under laboratory conditions. Hope this helps…🤷🏼♂️
@symboh6492 18 күн бұрын
@@R6shark214 Thanks, still though the Pro V1 having a 21 Sq yd area with PW doesn't add up, with what I would expect is a precise robot swing. That's massive.
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
The shot area is the difference between the longest to shortest shot multiplied by the furthest left to the furthest right. There's a comment below saying that 21 sq yds is huge, it really isn't that big when you realise that would be a 3.5 yard drop of from longest to shortest and a 6 yard left to right dispersion. It's important to understand too that not all tour balls are made on the same lines that make the balls we consumers buy. Very often tour balls are made on separate lines. Hope that helps.
@chrisb9478 20 күн бұрын
Their 211 Xcor2’s seem like a great bargain. MyGolfSpy rates them highly too. I’m torn between these & the Sub70 699v2. 😑 (I shoot around 90)
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Not a bad choice to have to make.
@pstone7240 20 күн бұрын
If I’m a mid handicapper that’s back on the market for clubs ( waiting to hear if TM is going to warranty my caved face p790s ) that’s looking at clubs is it a bad idea to be looking at say the qi10 irons / hybrid set. I do have a natural miss to the right that is being slowly worked out with lesson and play rough 2-3 times a month.
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Sounds like you're thinking along the right lines.
@pstone7240 13 күн бұрын
@@todaysgolfer the fitter said to stay in the p790s and work on rotating my hands so it closes the face. I did however upgrade to the 2023 P790s since my first set was outside TMs warranty period.
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
@@pstone7240 The P790 are a very solid choice.
@JeffJefferyUK 20 күн бұрын
Something I find really helpful is to use a 1-2-3-4 count for the driver. The backswing starts on the 1, the contact happens on the 4. The count for irons is 1-2-3. Chip shots are 1-2 (or "tick-tock").
@andrewinglis2127 21 күн бұрын
Just got fitted for the xp irons very good results
@user-qd1qq8vs5n 21 күн бұрын
Urgent question . About to purchase . 11Handicap, 7iron 80mph , 5200 spin , 160carry. In South Africa need to order . Looking at i230 vs Zx5. What would be preference and why ? Maybe thanks 🙏
@todaysgolfer 13 күн бұрын
Both are really solid choices, the ZX5 are quality. If we were looking at Ping ourselves we'd probably be considering the Blueprint S as well, it's a beauty.
@ecliqxse9591 22 күн бұрын
Gotta love pxg,
@user-dd7jx4yg9r 23 күн бұрын
It seems amazing to me that a robot swings exactly the same every time but has a dispersion of as much as 71 yards both in distance and accuracy.
@richardhunter6858 10 күн бұрын
@user-dd7jx4yg9r, Don't you mean the BALL'S dispersion?
@1870289165 24 күн бұрын
Best recent test I’ve found, amazing findings. Played PROV1x for years, I’m going to have to try the Kirkland signature and the Wilson plus some maxfli. Good stuff!
@todaysgolfer 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, we're just conducting this years version of this test, expect an up to date version with a few weeks.
@MrKillahippo 25 күн бұрын
Are the days gone when you just hit the ball in the hole. Just like a new driver doesn't buy you a new swing, putter tech can't make you putt straight. YOU still have to putt straight while guesstimating the green.
@tacticaltruth8118 25 күн бұрын
Great comparison video. Thanks!
@todaysgolfer 23 күн бұрын
Thanks forsaking the time to say so, appreciate your feedback.
@bmoneybby 25 күн бұрын
Single-Handedly keeping other ball companies besides Titleist alive.
@nellynelson9387 25 күн бұрын
Got a fitting next weekend for a set of graphite to see how they compare
@todaysgolfer 23 күн бұрын
Great stuff, enjoy Nelly.
@stephenkawasaki8942 25 күн бұрын
How rude the 3 guys laughing and carrying on in the background...
@aliasErEf 25 күн бұрын
Enthousiasm as a rainy wether forecast
@robertmcanarney7589 26 күн бұрын
The best ball I ever played was the Titleist velocity
@robertmcanarney7589 26 күн бұрын
Wilson's are the most accurate because they're 15 to 17 yards shorter than the rest of the balls
@todaysgolfer 26 күн бұрын
😆🤣😆 Not sure which data you're looking at Robert, averaged over three driver swing speeds the Wilson's 0.8 yds (Staff Model), 2 yds (Triad), and 3.2 yds (Duo Soft) back from the very longest, seven other balls were shorter than than the Duo Soft too. 👍👍👍
@MartinMacGill 26 күн бұрын
I’ve just ordered a set of Srixon’s after finding it a bit of a struggle with my players irons (getting older!). I tried most of the irons suggested here but the Srixon iron had a good compromise with what I’m used to in an iron. I can’t wait to get my hands on them. By the way, do you not think shaft selection would have a big differentiator when it comes to performance? I’m wondering if the irons in the test were fitted for tester. It might have had an effect on the overall dispersion. I know that when I was going through the fitting process we found a shaft that really tightened up my shots to almost blanket size!
@todaysgolfer 26 күн бұрын
Good choice Martin Srixon irons are really solid. Absolutely shaft would make a difference, our view is though we test the stock option that manufacturers produce, if we fitted them all with the same shaft we would end up testing some products in a set-up that wouldn't be available to buy. Enjoy the new set.
@waynemarsha 27 күн бұрын
What was the players swing speed and also what shaft was in the club
@joshuak5757 28 күн бұрын
Took your advice and tried standard Ai smoke. Holy smokes you guys are on to something. Thanks. Incredible results from this club. The best hybrid for me easily and without a doubt. Going to get the 4 for sure. Maybe the 5 also. This is going to make it a fun golf year.
@todaysgolfer 28 күн бұрын
Great to hear Joshua, thanks for letting us about your success.
@bigwhooptrading6368 28 күн бұрын
Good morning, Doesn't it seem strange to you that Wilson is placed in the center of the image on the three segments,Tour, Player, 2 pieces? And what about the numbers? How could Wilson's competing brands let Wilson put such a gap on dispersion? The Triad and the Staff have a dispersion of between 17.2 and 18.7 sq yds and the Pro V1, the ball most played by pro on the tour, takes a beating with 40.5 sq yds? The TP5 45.5 yds? Be serious either your testing process is completely random or you are just being paid by Wilson. These results are impossible... Callaway, Titleist will not leave such inefficient balls on the market and the pros will only play Wilson Staff... Golf is a target game, how can we accept that the ball we play generates twice as much dispersion? Ridiculous...
@todaysgolfer 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for your input, we thought the same thing as you. Then we discovered some of the major tour brands make their tour balls away from their main production lines, they only do this to keep a closer eye on tolerances and consistency. All of the balls tested here are retail models, not made for tour.
@brianbernstein7754 29 күн бұрын
Simon and Neil, thanks for the excellent review of Cobra's new 3D printed irons. In listening to your presentation I found myself wondering what Cobra's strategy is for these irons and why they only produced 500 sets. Are they waiting to see if there's sufficient demand at the $3K price point before scaling up production? Do 3D irons take considerably more time to manufacture? Are there more or less quality control issues w/ 3D? And where does Cobra see the 3D irons fitting in their existing lineup (between Forged Tec X and Forged Tec)? Sorry for all the questions -- I'm just really curious what the long term plan is. I'm guessing we'll see other manufacturers coming out w/ their own 3D irons fairly soon -- and at much lower price points. Thanks again for the great content.
@todaysgolfer 28 күн бұрын
Thanks Brian, like you we have a ton of questions around what the future could hold. This does appear to be really interesting tech. Our gut feel is that this could just be a trial run, dipping their toe in the water to gauge reaction. If the feedback is positive there will need to be significant investment into the 3D printers that can create products in this way. When there is costs will fall, to what extent we don't yet know, but perhaps in a similar way to how the cost of a set of PXG's has dropped significantly over time. We feel it's really telling about how Cobra say they could go much lighter for the lattice network inside, they've just used this design (it's twice as heavy as it needs to be to support the face etc) as it gives a forged iron sound/feel. If you put a much lighter version into a set of game improver irons it would be possible to get a set of much more forgiving irons without going bigger. That's an idea that sounds very exciting for average club golfers.
@fredgarvin4252 Ай бұрын
I have the AI Smoke 💎💎💎! Can’t hit the damn thing! Everything goes left! I actually got fitted for the black OPPs and hit it very well! Major regrets not purchasing it!!
@todaysgolfer 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for your input Fred, we've always felt the TD is a demanding driver.
@gcoffey223 Ай бұрын
Huge fan of Srixxon. Very easy to blend a bag Zx4: 4i Zx5: 5,6 Zx7 7-PW
@todaysgolfer 28 күн бұрын
Srixon make some cracking irons 👍
@richardsharpe4884 Ай бұрын
I have Had all the other brands this year April I brought a new set and had a fitting for PXG and have been amazed, my game has improved and my driver is have never hit so far. Wonderful clubs with the black ops edition 😅
@todaysgolfer 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for your input Richard.
@capekdehah Ай бұрын
SC California Fastback still worth to buy in 2024?
@todaysgolfer 28 күн бұрын
New or secondhand? Scotty's are always an investment.
@wawanpriyanto2273 28 күн бұрын
Second hand.
@wawanpriyanto2273 28 күн бұрын
But i just bought SC Phantom 9.5. The new one.
@todaysgolfer 27 күн бұрын
@@wawanpriyanto2273 Nice flatstick, not classic Scotty by any means, but so long as you like it and it holes putts nobody can knock it.