New Announcement: George R.R. Martin Finally Addresses Winds of Winter 2024 Release Date Rumors!

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Talking Thrones

Talking Thrones

20 күн бұрын

Welcome back for another Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, A Song of Ice and Fire, and Winds of Winter video! In this video, I will be talking about George R.R. Martin's official new update regarding the release date for the Winds of Winter. He said, "When WINDS OF WINTER is done, the word will not trickle out, there WILL be a big announcement… where and when I cannot say."
He wanted to address all of the recent rumors surrounding its release. Unfortunately, Winds of Winter still isn't done...
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@Kennylaggins
@Kennylaggins 19 күн бұрын
The Starks were wrong. Winter isn’t coming. 😂😂😂
@nont18411
@nont18411 19 күн бұрын
I mean, they spent the majority of time getting betrayed and murdered because of their political ineptitude, so of course, they were also wrong about this one too.
@MC-el2us
@MC-el2us 18 күн бұрын
😢
@jenniferpearce1052
@jenniferpearce1052 18 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@anukajithnuka808
@anukajithnuka808 18 күн бұрын
They know nothing..!!!
@CHAKAT-co9lp
@CHAKAT-co9lp 18 күн бұрын
A girl knows something and her name is Arya Lannister Targaryen Wildling​@@anukajithnuka808
@jWh8
@jWh8 19 күн бұрын
The update is "there is no update."
@rumi1379
@rumi1379 18 күн бұрын
Like every video of this channel..
@mattymckenna5289
@mattymckenna5289 18 күн бұрын
I totally agree, this channel is tired at this stage 🥱 🥱 talk about making mountains out of molehills ​@@rumi1379
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 18 күн бұрын
well hes telling people they they are wrong and to stop assuming and hes addressing things.
@aida86ms
@aida86ms 17 күн бұрын
Thanks. You saved about 9 min of my life
16 күн бұрын
Thanks 😊
@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces
@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces 19 күн бұрын
Give me something for the pain and let me die
@Kennylaggins
@Kennylaggins 19 күн бұрын
Milk of the poppy?
@sKYLEssed
@sKYLEssed 18 күн бұрын
Take my "like" You made me chuckle
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 18 күн бұрын
Read something else.
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 18 күн бұрын
@@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 "Read something else." Right? This isn't even the best fantasy series, it's very good but there are better. And people raging in comments acting like it's the only thing that exists or will ever exist
@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces
@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces 18 күн бұрын
@@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 I do, but I still want more content for the one that’s my overwhelming favorite lol
@Tigerblade11238
@Tigerblade11238 19 күн бұрын
When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east....
@sebastianc.29
@sebastianc.29 18 күн бұрын
😭 lmfao i can't 😂
@akechijubeimitsuhide
@akechijubeimitsuhide 18 күн бұрын
That was Quentyn.
@timazimarillion
@timazimarillion 18 күн бұрын
When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves
@OverkillNu
@OverkillNu 17 күн бұрын
@@akechijubeimitsuhideah yes, the Sun’s son.
@rasungo
@rasungo 12 күн бұрын
on Venus yeah
@jamenjefferson914
@jamenjefferson914 19 күн бұрын
Sweet summer children, we are in a long summer and winter is a long ways off.
@Kennylaggins
@Kennylaggins 19 күн бұрын
Winter is coming.
@uesikon
@uesikon 19 күн бұрын
when it comes to his wow book, were currently in the long night
@tickledeggz
@tickledeggz 19 күн бұрын
Im from the UK, what is summer?
@conservativecoffee
@conservativecoffee 19 күн бұрын
Winds of Winted will be released by Brandon Sanderson 😂😂
@diegoprodriguez
@diegoprodriguez 19 күн бұрын
Winter is coming you sonuvabish. 😂
@SzaboB33
@SzaboB33 18 күн бұрын
It's done guys. At last. I have just lost all hope. Im finally free.
@stephenhester4155
@stephenhester4155 17 күн бұрын
Your still here
@TheCrusaderKing
@TheCrusaderKing 17 күн бұрын
First time?
@ididit2939
@ididit2939 17 күн бұрын
He means he's now a pirate you should become one ​@@stephenhester4155
@chartreusecircle1546
@chartreusecircle1546 16 күн бұрын
Ironic. The subversion and destruction of hope, of anything having meaning or making sense or being anything other than flailing human vanity, is a huge theme in ASOIAF. Perhaps what George is doing here is an extended piece of performance art to criticize the entire idea that a “heckin’ true artiste” must cater to the wishes of the masses who yearn to consumerishly devour the artiste’s material Or something.
@San_Vito
@San_Vito 16 күн бұрын
It only took over a decade.
@EzekielPrellus
@EzekielPrellus 18 күн бұрын
I hope when he visits his publishers, they say "Oh yes, you're the one who used to write books."
@ezekieleason4997
@ezekieleason4997 19 күн бұрын
I swear he’s just messing with us at this point
@iggybarmont8639
@iggybarmont8639 19 күн бұрын
he is not writting for you, is writing for him
@Wusaruful
@Wusaruful 19 күн бұрын
@@iggybarmont8639 sure buddy, I hope it never releases and the story stays unfinished
@stormcutter59
@stormcutter59 19 күн бұрын
@@iggybarmont8639 Good, I hope it stays unfinished. For him right?
@MalaAnsoo
@MalaAnsoo 19 күн бұрын
@@iggybarmont8639oh is he? So the books will be given away for free once they‘re finished?
@bodacious117
@bodacious117 19 күн бұрын
@@iggybarmont8639he’s not going to let you hit it give it up
@PhatJoe323
@PhatJoe323 19 күн бұрын
Hopefully I'm still alive when the time comes...Tomorrow is not promised.
@beverlyfranklin5503
@beverlyfranklin5503 19 күн бұрын
Lol..
@nont18411
@nont18411 19 күн бұрын
“If you think this will have an ending, you’ve never been paying attention.” - Ramsay RR Martin, perhaps
@wgarcia2001
@wgarcia2001 19 күн бұрын
You'll be here longer than he is bud lol
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 19 күн бұрын
You need to hope someone else is alive lol
@wgarcia2001
@wgarcia2001 19 күн бұрын
@@Red1Green2Blue3 lmao
@50megatondiplomat28
@50megatondiplomat28 19 күн бұрын
We all know deep inside that he's never going to finish the book. But I always click on these updates anyway, lol.
@tonyclifton2230
@tonyclifton2230 19 күн бұрын
Update the children of the forrest are now adults and still no book.
@dw9524
@dw9524 4 күн бұрын
They're pensioners of the forest at this point 😂
@user-otzlixr
@user-otzlixr 18 күн бұрын
We want the prints that was promised!
@erickelley9647
@erickelley9647 19 күн бұрын
Time he spent writing that long blog post, he could have written a few more pages of WoW.
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 19 күн бұрын
Count the number of words in every blog post since 2011. He could have finished the series if he'd written a page instead of these blogs lmao.
@anntecz
@anntecz 15 күн бұрын
That's unnecessarily mean
@eggie1978
@eggie1978 18 күн бұрын
As an author, respect goes both ways. He really doesn’t appreciate his fans if he makes them wait over a decade for the next book in his series. It's not like he's been sick or in a coma. He's been doing everything else except releasing the book his fans have been waiting patiently for. His professional priorities are messed up, and he's being a d!ck to his fans that have supported his work.
@Marcus_1001
@Marcus_1001 18 күн бұрын
100%. I'm so disappointed in him and I've pretty much lost all the respect and reverence I once had for the man. This callous disregard for the fans who were his bread and butter long before HBO cam calling is utterly inexcusable. Shame on him.
@lynninfinite
@lynninfinite 18 күн бұрын
He has hella characters about, different POVs to write from, and multiple families and plots to write about and keep straight. You try to do it yourself.
@YumiSumire
@YumiSumire 18 күн бұрын
to be fair, he's been doing many tv shows. And I enjoy them a lot.
@Kratosx23
@Kratosx23 18 күн бұрын
@@lynninfinite He did 3 ASOIAF books between 1996 and 2000 and they're all huge.
@tgo007
@tgo007 18 күн бұрын
It's not a choice. He's old and fat. I don't say that to be mean. It's just the truth. It's not like he's doing nothing tho. He's working on tv shows and appearances. I think the ending of GoT killed his motivation. That was his intended ending. They just didn't execute it properly. Everyone hated it. I don't think he's being a dick. I just think he doesn't have it anymore. I think he should hire a team of ghost writers. He would oversee everything of course. But I don't think his ego will let him do that. I think he's also fearful that the book is a disappointment. If it's not a masterpiece, fans will destroy him for it.
@byronius7012
@byronius7012 19 күн бұрын
Imagine if George trolls us by releasing the last two books at the same time and reveals the real reason it took so long was because he was writing both of them at once. Probably won't happen but i can dream.
@rockycvs3
@rockycvs3 19 күн бұрын
My copium makes me believe this quite regularly.
@dylan-cj1cg
@dylan-cj1cg 19 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing lol. Would be truly epic!
@JamletGraff
@JamletGraff 19 күн бұрын
You can dream of spring
@TehThxsis
@TehThxsis 19 күн бұрын
I feel at this point that it’s more likely that happens
@kit888
@kit888 19 күн бұрын
You have him confused with Brandon Sanderson
@hippiehillape
@hippiehillape 19 күн бұрын
Your grandchildren will whisper about the madness that took you.
@Kelly12478
@Kelly12478 19 күн бұрын
Started reading the series in 1996.........
@H0rnyD0g
@H0rnyD0g 19 күн бұрын
That’s actually nuts, this guy is the laziest person I’ve ever seen
@nont18411
@nont18411 19 күн бұрын
@@H0rnyD0g Quite an antithesis to Brandon Sanderson. Makes me wonder how faster Sanderson would have written TWOW and ADOS if George let him?
@shershah5318
@shershah5318 19 күн бұрын
Huh? It was released in 1998
@Kelly12478
@Kelly12478 19 күн бұрын
@@shershah5318 The very first book was released way back in 1996.
@H0rnyD0g
@H0rnyD0g 19 күн бұрын
@@nont18411 I’ve heard of his trilogy, and aren’t they quite well regarded? I might have to give them a go, knowing that the full trilogy is out.
@christopherjeremiah60
@christopherjeremiah60 18 күн бұрын
I clicked on this video fully expecting to be disappointed, thank you George!
@ravioth
@ravioth 19 күн бұрын
He won't release,accept it.
@mariaokonofua1293
@mariaokonofua1293 19 күн бұрын
Your absolutely right
@kvothethebloodless3361
@kvothethebloodless3361 19 күн бұрын
No
@MrVictor1227
@MrVictor1227 19 күн бұрын
Shut you mouth
@scottw7067
@scottw7067 19 күн бұрын
Agree, so many chapters were complete in 2012/13. I've never written a book but I assume it should not take 13 years to write. He just doesn't seem interested in finishing since the show has already done it. Maybe he just lost the passion
@user-cm4op2kz3y
@user-cm4op2kz3y 19 күн бұрын
@@scottw7067 yeah and probably too much pressure. I guess he'd rather be known as the guy who didn't end his story rather than the guy who fucked it up
@bradleyroberts6050
@bradleyroberts6050 19 күн бұрын
I think he should have put this fire out a little over 5 weeks ago.
@greghenrikson952
@greghenrikson952 19 күн бұрын
He lives in his own world, and it is not our world.
@sgauden02
@sgauden02 19 күн бұрын
All I gotta say is that if/when Winds Of Winter finally comes out, it had better be ONE HELL OF A BOOK!
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 18 күн бұрын
It won't be, because of all the theories fans crafted over the years, and because of the long timespan between the last release. Expectations are too high.
@Grewyn7
@Grewyn7 16 күн бұрын
​@@MrBell-iq3sm This. He has allowed it to be built up far too much by this point
@officalprime
@officalprime 14 күн бұрын
@@Grewyn7 i think it will just be more build up to the final battle. then dream of spring finishes it off if it ever comes out
@blakec8549
@blakec8549 2 күн бұрын
​@@MrBell-iq3sm don't let fandoms ruin things you like
@corneliusquincydavenportic1913
@corneliusquincydavenportic1913 15 күн бұрын
Reading this not a blog is like getting a phone call from an absentee father about how he can’t make it to your birthday this year. “Ooh sorry sport. Dad’s a little busy right now. Next year, I promise!” And repeat this for 13 years
@boblangford81
@boblangford81 18 күн бұрын
When GRR Martin turns his final draft in, the publisher is going to find the words, "All work and no play makes George a dull boy," repeated over and over on every page.
@evozero905
@evozero905 19 күн бұрын
Even if he finishes Winds we will never see Dream and a conclusion.
@danika9411
@danika9411 19 күн бұрын
I think he has it outlined and someone else will write it for him.
@HakktruRuinous
@HakktruRuinous 18 күн бұрын
@@danika9411 I wish this were true, but he already said there is no one alive in the world he would trust to write for him after he dies. When he dies game of thrones story dies with him
@danika9411
@danika9411 18 күн бұрын
@@HakktruRuinous 🥲
@travisjohnson622
@travisjohnson622 18 күн бұрын
aparently hea stuck on major plot points in this book. Im sure he knows exactly how he'll end it, its just problems on the road there. Im sure as soon as he completes this book, the last will flow rather quickly.
@shikharpandey2379
@shikharpandey2379 18 күн бұрын
​@@travisjohnson622I admire your optimism.
@richardramirez3731
@richardramirez3731 19 күн бұрын
So done with this guy…
@iggybarmont8639
@iggybarmont8639 19 күн бұрын
he is done with you
@nont18411
@nont18411 19 күн бұрын
@@iggybarmont8639 But he is somehow not done with the books tho
@RockChick63174
@RockChick63174 18 күн бұрын
He owes you NOTHING.
@iggybarmont8639
@iggybarmont8639 18 күн бұрын
@@RockChick63174 you are in my team
@iggybarmont8639
@iggybarmont8639 18 күн бұрын
@@nont18411 uoooooo skrr skrrr (rap music)
@colebrock596
@colebrock596 18 күн бұрын
George and his fans are the epitome of a love hate relationship, he had enthralled us all into this world we care so much about, I personally have read the books well over 10 times a piece and have watched the show over 20 times(except s8) and I’ve loved every second of it, but waiting for these book and getting my hopes up for it is brutal, and part of me would prefer to have never gotten involved with it at all, rather than going so and him never finishing it, it’s unrealistic at this point, but I still hold out hope, just finish the god damn books George
@brunoactis1104
@brunoactis1104 18 күн бұрын
Doesn't really matter, he's very old and the books will be finished by a designated writer after he passes, with help of his notes. Tons of precedents for this.
@gts2550
@gts2550 17 күн бұрын
@@brunoactis1104 He explicitly stated that he forbid that to happen and ordered all his notes burned. It's probably already in his will.
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo 16 күн бұрын
@@gts2550Curiously enough, destroying the unpublished writings of authors after their death isn’t frequently done. Their writing is usually considered too valuable and will often be preserved and/or published. This is often going directly against the author’s explicit directive to have their writing either destroyed or kept from the public eye. Not saying that will (or won’t) be the case for GRRM. It ultimately depends on who has access to his unpublished works after he passes. Unless he decides to destroy (or seal away) it all while he’s alive, we (including GRRM himself) cannot be certain what will become of his yet-published writing.
@San_Vito
@San_Vito 16 күн бұрын
You need to let go and live your life. ASoIaF will never be finished, at least not by George. And who knows if it'll be finished by someone else, in what conditions and when.
@bradleyroberts6050
@bradleyroberts6050 19 күн бұрын
Sometimes I feel like George likes to play with us. Honestly I’m not someone who sees all the clues and bread crumbs others see but, this time I was with everyone! The fact he allowed it to go for 6 weeks before saying no again is crazy!
@iggybarmont8639
@iggybarmont8639 19 күн бұрын
be easy with the old man, he is working, let him COCK
@DecimusStark
@DecimusStark 18 күн бұрын
@@bradleyroberts6050 This time he didn't, it was all these guys basing things on no evidence that got people hyped. George had nothing to do with it this time, and trust me I remember how he lied to the Fandom about WoW release date before, page completion testimonies not adding up, ect. So I don't believe anything the man says anymore, but he's not at fault for this, this was the coping fans fault and everyone should have sufficient proof well before now not to get hyped at anything that not an official announcement.
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo 16 күн бұрын
I heard loads of people claiming the a dragon cake he’d supposedly bought was to celebrate the release of TWOW. To me, it sounded like if he was celebrating anything, it was HOTD S2. It’s absolutely ludicrous to presume that a mere cake, dragon or not, signals the publication of TWOW. It’s just a cake.
@bradleyroberts6050
@bradleyroberts6050 16 күн бұрын
@@MiraBoo I thought it was for the show.
@phoenixmilburn6598
@phoenixmilburn6598 19 күн бұрын
5 years ago i was convinced this book would have been released with in a year or two after GoT ended............
@kmm3458
@kmm3458 17 күн бұрын
After GOT ended I was convinced that we would never see another book.
@booknerdlover3675
@booknerdlover3675 19 күн бұрын
I’ve long been a GRRM loyalist - defending him any time someone got mad about it not being out. But with this latest denial, yeah I don’t think we’ll ever get it at this point. And it’s seriously the first time I’ve ever said those words.
@fuckoffgoogle1657
@fuckoffgoogle1657 18 күн бұрын
Ur not alone. Between this and HOTD being flaming trash tier writing…I’m just burnt out on disappointment
@markjefferies2544
@markjefferies2544 18 күн бұрын
The best way he could make up for this is to release both books at once.
@gameface8080
@gameface8080 19 күн бұрын
I want to read the books, but I’m afraid that I won’t get to read the last two books. Because even if he does somehow managed to release wins of winter, what about a dream of spring?
@D4rkBl4de
@D4rkBl4de 19 күн бұрын
That's my issue too. I really want to know the real story. The ending for the TV Show was hot garbage, not satisfying.
@georgeofkunstatandpodebrad8147
@georgeofkunstatandpodebrad8147 19 күн бұрын
Imagine how people who started reading in 1996 feel.
@McHobotheBobo
@McHobotheBobo 19 күн бұрын
I suspect if/when Winds comes out Dream will not take very long to finish but hey that's speculative
@jacklu1611
@jacklu1611 19 күн бұрын
Never has Summer been so long and so hated 😂😂😂
@joetedesco63
@joetedesco63 19 күн бұрын
⁠I read the first two books while in Iraq in 2003. Then I had to wait like everyone else. Lol
@instantramen7145
@instantramen7145 18 күн бұрын
When you play the game of thrones; you wait, then you die.
@MorgothBagluir
@MorgothBagluir 10 күн бұрын
Goddamn..🤣😭
@SR-fs2fd
@SR-fs2fd 19 күн бұрын
It appears to me that he just likes to eat and travel. And secretly likes to see any of his writings get adapted into a TV show because he was neglected earlier in his life. For that, he is ready to write new material. But why has he left the people hanging? He should just admit that he won't be able finish WoW and put people out of their misery so that they can make peace and move on.
@mattnoah8309
@mattnoah8309 18 күн бұрын
I wonder how many Ice and fire fans have passed away in the 13 years waiting for this book. Never knowing how even the second to last book goes. All these shows and diff books. People can say he don’t owe us nothing but he got all these contracts through that series,
@michaelbuick6995
@michaelbuick6995 19 күн бұрын
Game of Thrones killed ASOIAF. I think the show overtaking the books killed his enthusiasm, and the absolute disaster of S8 killed his confidence. D&D did take *some* guidance from Martin and while his ideas would no doubt be executed better (for example I think Danaerys burning King's Landing is already foreshadowed), but the fan backlash is making him second guess himself.
@iggybarmont8639
@iggybarmont8639 19 күн бұрын
totally agree, thats why that if he manages to finish the saga would be the most epic...
@nont18411
@nont18411 19 күн бұрын
Yep, knowing that the audience hates Daenerys turning evil, Bran becoming king, Sansa becoming queen in the north, Jon getting exiled again, Jon’s lineage didn’t matter, Jaime didn’t kill Cersei,…would have put Martin in one hell of a rewrite.
@HunterL95
@HunterL95 19 күн бұрын
We might get Winds of Winter but I long ago accepted we will never get Dream of Spring, at least not written by George. I imagine he will have some kind of deal worked out were someone will finish the story after his death, someone who he probably will leave a rough out line on his vision for the ending of A Song of Ice and Fire!
@angellover02171
@angellover02171 19 күн бұрын
I just hope it's not Brandon Sanderson
@nont18411
@nont18411 19 күн бұрын
@@angellover02171 Why?
@angellover02171
@angellover02171 18 күн бұрын
@nont18411 he can't write like george. I think Steven Erikson could do it. Malazan is just as complex, and it's done.
@crystalmarryatt1018
@crystalmarryatt1018 18 күн бұрын
I think he has already said that he won't let anyone else finish it if he does 😢
@properfunny
@properfunny 18 күн бұрын
I’ve heard rumor that he has given instructions that if he dies his notes are to be burned and not continued. I doubt that the book will ever be released.
@caiofeliperomao4826
@caiofeliperomao4826 18 күн бұрын
The night remains dark and full of terrors…
@BigBoss-xr8dg
@BigBoss-xr8dg 17 күн бұрын
One of my favourite lines was after the Long Night episode in the final season of GoT. The episode was dark and full errors 😂
@mackfarlainethebarenakedau5113
@mackfarlainethebarenakedau5113 17 күн бұрын
Winter may come, but Spring will probably always be a Dream.
@jeffreydeeproduction2411
@jeffreydeeproduction2411 18 күн бұрын
It’s GRRM who’s playing the real game of thrones 😅 a game within a game. Brilliant !
@kims8752
@kims8752 19 күн бұрын
Is it april fools?
@k45207
@k45207 19 күн бұрын
The bush clip was the cherry on top 😂😂 I hadn’t seen that clip in forever lol
@gwynethmacarthur5986
@gwynethmacarthur5986 19 күн бұрын
I thought that was Aegon ll speaking high Valyrian.
@k45207
@k45207 19 күн бұрын
@@gwynethmacarthur5986 😂😂😂oh my bad! they just look so similar I mix them up sometimes
@gwynethmacarthur5986
@gwynethmacarthur5986 19 күн бұрын
​@@k45207Ha ha ha, yeah, I hear you!
@DGonyt7
@DGonyt7 18 күн бұрын
Guys. It’s a hard pill to swallow but at this point we just have to accept that the last two books are not coming out.
@ModernDayRenaissanceMan
@ModernDayRenaissanceMan 17 күн бұрын
If he can write this blog.... He can write a chapter. I'm so over it
@RAMOS_DE_67
@RAMOS_DE_67 19 күн бұрын
All George has to do is say that the red comet hit planetos and everyone was wiped out the end. Then know one can bother him about finishing the book and he can do what he wants.
@420bengalfan
@420bengalfan 18 күн бұрын
if he does that he will probably sell a little less asoiaf merch and interest in future tv shows will lower he is already doing what he wants not finishing the series
@RAMOS_DE_67
@RAMOS_DE_67 18 күн бұрын
@@420bengalfan your right so he'll probably have an ending like this up his sleeve but keep telling everyone that it's coming until he passes hopefully not for a very long time then it gets the silly gotcha ending and tbh seems like something he'd do not out of badness but for a laugh.
@dekuuchiha9990
@dekuuchiha9990 18 күн бұрын
Planetos?
@RAMOS_DE_67
@RAMOS_DE_67 18 күн бұрын
@@dekuuchiha9990 yeah Planetos is the name GRRM gave to the world from the ASOIAF book series.
@Jon79w
@Jon79w 19 күн бұрын
All I can think of is the South Park episode…😂
@rebeccaallen5902
@rebeccaallen5902 19 күн бұрын
George R. R. Martin is the reason I don't read a series until it is all the way out. The dude is going to die before he finishes it, then some snot-nosed ghost writer is gonna come in all cock sure that they will finish it and no one will be none the wiser. Biggest disappointment of my life
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 19 күн бұрын
He has said countless times that nobody will be allowed to write it after him. For better or worse, no one else can write in his universe. This series will never be finished.
@TrueNorth1217
@TrueNorth1217 19 күн бұрын
Womp womp. You people do this after every blog post. Get over it
@radicalz2501
@radicalz2501 19 күн бұрын
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker Be that as it may the TV universe might still continue after he's gone.
@seankoas
@seankoas 19 күн бұрын
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpickerthese types of restrictions don’t last forever. Eventually someone will be allowed to. Plus anyone could write an ending and post it online, nobody could stop them 😂
@idawg7332
@idawg7332 19 күн бұрын
Yep I really want to start red rising but I’m not taking any chances until the last book comes out
@loveless4304
@loveless4304 18 күн бұрын
I like your signature phrase "As you all know", there's something comforting about it. As I don't have anyone to discuss HOTD and SOIAF with, your channel is like a release of some kind.
@twistedelegance_
@twistedelegance_ 18 күн бұрын
Can we finally admit the books aren't happening. The few pages he has written will likely be released after his passing, and they'll say something like "idk lol".
@moondra3481
@moondra3481 19 күн бұрын
Second!😂😂😂😂❤❤. Yay. No matter when he releases it it is still going to be a huge seller and he knows it. I can wait. My secret wish is he releases both in one shot ❤❤❤❤
@user-jy1ob6eh4v
@user-jy1ob6eh4v 19 күн бұрын
At this point I’m happy we’re getting the tv shows for the next decade or so hopefully
@nikoserkku2288
@nikoserkku2288 19 күн бұрын
We are not gonna see winds of winter ever 😂😂😂
@classicmiriam
@classicmiriam 19 күн бұрын
Not to mention A dream of spring
@drew0513
@drew0513 19 күн бұрын
So...the announcement about "The Winds of Winter" is...there is no announcement. He talked a lot about....nothing.
@damdamfino
@damdamfino 19 күн бұрын
I’m glad he addressed the recent gossip, and he wasn’t super mad about it, either.
@stevengreene7389
@stevengreene7389 18 күн бұрын
Last thing we would want is for him to feel dissatisfied or upset…
@TheRavingNomad
@TheRavingNomad 17 күн бұрын
Isn't it crazy that we have to worry about him getting mad at his supporters that gave him the position he's in now? Like that's wild to me, he should be apologizing to us, not getting pissed that we love and are very eager to finish his work.
@beekind6267
@beekind6267 19 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That 84 yrs edit 😅😅
@k45207
@k45207 19 күн бұрын
Yup I was waiting for this video 😂 you’re on it man, much respect!
@salusa_secundus
@salusa_secundus 19 күн бұрын
He created all these fantastical lores and stories and I’m very convinced he’s unable to create a sensible coherent ending. He just got caught up in writing that he can’t finish. Occam’s razor.
@thefancasthub6862
@thefancasthub6862 16 күн бұрын
That's the problem. He did wayyy too much worldbuilding. I say that as a sucker of worldbuilding.
@CM-kx4on
@CM-kx4on 18 күн бұрын
Sometimes I think he already finished Winds of Winter and is finishing A Dream of Spring and he will release them both at the same time. 😊
@michaeldeaton
@michaeldeaton 19 күн бұрын
Its never ever coming out. Never ever. Just deal with it already and move on.
@jaysheriffe6292
@jaysheriffe6292 19 күн бұрын
if you truly believed that you wouldn't still be here watching these update videos, you would have moved on.
@labmonkey01
@labmonkey01 19 күн бұрын
@@jaysheriffe6292 I am doubtful that it will ever come out. And I’m confident he won’t finish the series. I’m here still for show and spin off series updates.
@jaysheriffe6292
@jaysheriffe6292 19 күн бұрын
@@labmonkey01 This is a winds of winter update video, not a spin off series update. All im saying is, If you people had really given up all hope and "moved on" you wouldn't be here...But no! Despite your doubts, a part of you guys are puffing on that hopium like the rest of us and still believe it will come out and that's why you're here on this video.
@investoroncoke
@investoroncoke 18 күн бұрын
@@jaysheriffe6292not everybody is a one dimensional NPC like yourself. Maybe they simple came here to tell you it’s never coming out lol
@Heimersleep
@Heimersleep 18 күн бұрын
It will release and the series will finish. Questionable whether it’s by George or not though
@MetalicPotato
@MetalicPotato 3 күн бұрын
He never wanted to be an Author forever. He wanted to be a TV writer. He achieved his goal is all
@piyusarkar3065
@piyusarkar3065 14 күн бұрын
He's f*ing 75. He really needs to take things seriously. Had he maintained his 2yrs duration like he initially did, he would have been done by 2008 or something with dream of spring. What's wrong with him. I feel like after the show, he is done with his story telling of those particular events. But he doesn't have the guts to admit that to his readers. And I can totally understand why someone won't feel any creativity or be able to write a story that's already been told
@teksnotdead902
@teksnotdead902 18 күн бұрын
Friendy suggestion that if you are waiting around for Winds of Winter and haven't read Joe Abercrombies First Law series...definitely do.
@sillygo0oser
@sillygo0oser 17 күн бұрын
My boyfriend got me listening to the audiobook. And I got him watching HOTD (I don’t have the heart to show him GOT with season 8 being the way it is)
@teksnotdead902
@teksnotdead902 17 күн бұрын
@@sillygo0oser Steven Pacey does the audiobooks and he’s the best narrator I’ve listened to. His voices are so distinct you know which character is talking the second they speak.
@sillygo0oser
@sillygo0oser 17 күн бұрын
@@teksnotdead902 that’s who I’m listening to narrate! He does such a good job, my only issue is that I think all the characters are older than they are at first. I’m 2 hours in and I thought Gloctor was in his eighties until he said he was 31 (the torture making him act old) But definitely, you can tell who is who from what I gathered.
@teksnotdead902
@teksnotdead902 16 күн бұрын
@@sillygo0oser yep Glokta especially feels older than he is. That’s part of the reason he’s always in a bad mood lol.
@jonathanm5661
@jonathanm5661 19 күн бұрын
This story will never be finished. The show finishing the story took the passion from him. He can’t write anything like what the show did or he’ll be accused of laziness and following the shows vision. He’d have to go in a completely different direction than the show to feel as if it’s his story and his alone. The problem is some of the shows vision likely came from talks with him.
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 19 күн бұрын
Tbh this should have been obvious. I can’t remember where I heard but apparently the Dunk and Egg novellas are the ones he is most passionate about and his personal favourite. In fact, based on that, I’d say he likes Dunk and egg more than the the ASOIF. If that’s true his full focus will be on that show for years. Even in this video, from the moves he is pulling in the beginning, it’s obvious he is going to be way more involved in the Dunk and Egg show. Pulling out the writers room for HOTD season 3 so he can roll (literally) into the Dunk and Egg writers room.
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 19 күн бұрын
And yet, he also hasn't finished Dunk and Egg LOL. The last one was 7 years ago.
@j.b.c.a.
@j.b.c.a. 18 күн бұрын
He says he'll write more Dunc and Egg once he finishes Winds of Winter. I would laugh, but I have to cry.
@brunoactis1104
@brunoactis1104 18 күн бұрын
That's what i call a "Guess". ASOIAF became so insane they started theorizing about real life too.
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 17 күн бұрын
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Bruh I am not even sure if the Dunk and Eggs one are actually his favourite but if that’s the case then there is no hope for winds of winter 😂😂😂
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 17 күн бұрын
@@j.b.c.a. hahahahahaha so timeline is unknown. When did he even write the first book. I swear it was like the 90’s or something
@terribaker2237
@terribaker2237 19 күн бұрын
I have just hiven up on waiting..if it happens okay... But doubtful it will be anytime soon if ever. Just something we all must accept and live with.
@Sam-jx8tv
@Sam-jx8tv 18 күн бұрын
If the book isn't announced at WorldCon this year it's never coming out.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 19 күн бұрын
Winds of Winter is like Yandere Simulator: We have no idea when they're coming for real
@MorgothBagluir
@MorgothBagluir 9 күн бұрын
You need yisus lol
@JWARStudios
@JWARStudios 9 күн бұрын
Remember when we all thought Covid lockdowns would make him finish the books? Those were the days.
@EL-ISS
@EL-ISS 7 күн бұрын
I know it's been said many a time before, but I feel HORRIBLE for the people who've been following this series from the beginning and have since passed before knowing how ASOIAF ends ... an eternal cliffhanger. The series is very large in scope, no sane man could deny that. But thirteen bloody years!?
@jacoreinach1661
@jacoreinach1661 19 күн бұрын
My only hope is that a lot of the dragged out writing is to ensure that the main and subplots all tie in with the conclusions and wrap ups for each plot and arch that ADOS will focus on. So that once TWOW is finished that the ouline for ADOS is fairly settled on and the writing goes quick like the old books. Just me being optimistic though.
@crystalmarryatt1018
@crystalmarryatt1018 18 күн бұрын
I think that is his biggest problem with writing. He doesn't know how to tie all the plots and subplots together and have it still make sense lol.
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 18 күн бұрын
@@crystalmarryatt1018 He could blow up a cathedral with many essential characters in it, and no consequences. It helped in the show and people accepted it, even referred to it as a 'twist'.
@robrick9361
@robrick9361 17 күн бұрын
Oh my sweet summer child.
@habitak7989
@habitak7989 17 күн бұрын
@@MrBell-iq3sm Yeah, he really should NOT take the show as a role model...
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 17 күн бұрын
@@habitak7989 Why not? The fandom cheered the show on until season 8. Even to this day, most people act as if the series only fell off in the last season and not at the halfway point.
@jessenagel9044
@jessenagel9044 18 күн бұрын
I think after the shows conclusion he reflected hard and was dismayed that the audience disliked it so much. He’s said in numerous interviews that he shared his vision with the writers on how it would end. My guess is they for the most part wrote his ending and now Martin has been taking time to adjust plans. It explains the huge amount of time he’s needed. I’m sure what he writes even if it’s the same, will be much more out together than the anti climactic ending of the show
@lnfanity
@lnfanity 17 күн бұрын
The thing is that I think most fans would accept the current shows ending it it had more time and thought put in to it. I didn’t hate the mad queen ending, I hated that it was riddled with month long time skips and lacked any real build up before the release. All he has to do is expand on it and show the events and clues leading up to the change in Dany and it wouldn’t be nearly as bad as the show portrayed it.
@kaerouse48
@kaerouse48 18 күн бұрын
The fact that it took him a month to respond to all the fan theories going around means he's either messing with us and going to announce something at WorldCon or he's going to take Winds of Winter with him to the grave. I'll wait until after the Convention to feel angry.
@KGanza
@KGanza 12 күн бұрын
If only the fame reached him after the series was done. It takes the hunger of struggle to make great stuff man
@zerohero6602
@zerohero6602 11 күн бұрын
100% he was slow to begin with; he’s been pulled in too many directions , unfortunately
@Ramaru367
@Ramaru367 19 күн бұрын
The worst of all is knowing that after this (WoW) there will still be another book 😵‍💫
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 19 күн бұрын
There won't be another book.
@user-jy1ob6eh4v
@user-jy1ob6eh4v 18 күн бұрын
@@Red1Green2Blue3yes there will
@San_Vito
@San_Vito 15 күн бұрын
@@user-jy1ob6eh4v Not one done by Martin.
@user-jy1ob6eh4v
@user-jy1ob6eh4v 15 күн бұрын
@@San_Vito guy can live till he’s 100. So it’s possible
@umanuu
@umanuu 19 күн бұрын
This could very well be delusion, but... I read his post not so much as silencing our hope that TWOW is releasing, but moreso to silence the specific assumption on the nature of anytime he meets with his publishers. Making it clear that it's not always to discuss book publishing plans. On top of that he states "when WINDS OF WINTER is done, the word will not trickle out, there WILL be a big announcement… where and when I cannot say." I also read this as him not specifically saying "I cannot say/don't have a clear answer when TWOW is coming out." He's moreso stating that he isn't entirely sure WHERE and when TWOW will be ANNOUNCED. The "where" is important in this - as he leads with the where. It's also important to note that in the very same blog post, he talks about his tireless efforts to be a panelist at this year's WorldCon. Since that has proven fruitless for him, perhaps his intended plans to announce TWOW at WorldCon has been squashed and now he is searching/pondering for an alternative place and time to do so. A place and time that is not yet clear to him, in which he "cannot say."
@martingiroux2817
@martingiroux2817 19 күн бұрын
Thing still is... in his most recent blog post, he shows off new cover arts for the first five books, as well as a collection set for them five to release in october. Why would anybody buy a collection set that is not including The Winds of Winter, if The Winds of Winter had to release ?
@Ghostlyape123
@Ghostlyape123 19 күн бұрын
@@martingiroux2817 they have been releasing those kinds of boxed sets for years
@milosradivojevic229
@milosradivojevic229 18 күн бұрын
What drugs do you use? I would like to try it if it can help😂
@martingiroux2817
@martingiroux2817 18 күн бұрын
​@@Ghostlyape123 Yes I know, but my point was more over the fact that if book 6 was to release, why market a collection set with only 5 books, just weeks / months before releasing the 6th book, when he could just wait a bit and include it inside this collection ? Like, won't it hurt the sales of this collection if it does not even include the final book releasing almost at the same time ? If you want your ASOIAF collection, you pretty much want all the released books to be inside of it. But Winds would not be in it. And at the contrary, wouldn't it boost the sales of such a collection if it included the freshly released new book ? That's why I'm wondering, because if it was actually releasing anytime soon, why wouldn't he instead sell a collection with all 6 books on its release ?
@brysonfreeman7226
@brysonfreeman7226 19 күн бұрын
6:09 “A Song Of Ice and Fire & Game Of Thrones fans have to be realistic about this” It’s actually just like when the Stranger Things fandom always have unrealistic expectations about stuff and when the upcoming new season (Season 5 / the final season) of Stranger Things comes out around next year, since it’s taking a whole calendar year to film it in production
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 18 күн бұрын
Had it only been one or a few calendar years, no one would have complained.
@hashpond420
@hashpond420 18 күн бұрын
Never thought it was possible for something to take longer to come out than a Tool album.
@Core1138
@Core1138 18 күн бұрын
This
@lytalo
@lytalo 19 күн бұрын
I am in my 70's like he is. I can understand why he moves slow on things.
@yannick930
@yannick930 19 күн бұрын
I think he wants to enjoy his life and success instead of going full hermit writing these books. He already gave the end with the tv show. You never know how much time you have left. New experiences, traveling, fine dinning and spending a little bit of those coins you can't take with you..
@nont18411
@nont18411 19 күн бұрын
And it’s probably because the show’s ending was what he originally intended but since he saw how much backlash it received, he had to rewrite the whole thing and made a new satisfactory conclusion, which is an extremely hard thing to do considering how many plotlines he has now.
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 18 күн бұрын
@@nont18411 That's not what he's doing, he's been upfront about this before.
@poneill65
@poneill65 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, but HE has a hooker factory and a beer volcano. He should be happy in his work!
@iggybarmont8639
@iggybarmont8639 18 күн бұрын
@@nont18411 yes yes yes, thank you
@FamousCroc
@FamousCroc 18 күн бұрын
Winter will never come
@brucetatarian3973
@brucetatarian3973 18 күн бұрын
If this news ruined your day, just picture George giggling along to a medieval style puppet show, that might help 😂
@Trick_or_tren
@Trick_or_tren 18 күн бұрын
I honestly think the backlash season 8 had is preventing him from finishing it
@kodakflaps8267
@kodakflaps8267 19 күн бұрын
I still think he won’t release anything until he passes he knows how crazy fans are and even if he pulls off the greatest ending people are still going to manage to btch about something.
@MrBell-iq3sm
@MrBell-iq3sm 18 күн бұрын
That would make him a true scumbag, if he had a book and couldn't be bothered to release it regardless of what his fans, the people who fund his life, and his publishers, have been promised.
@ViperFox_
@ViperFox_ 19 күн бұрын
I honestly stating to realistically come to the conclusion we may never ever see that book. Like I've come to terms with it now
@czaetc.8743
@czaetc.8743 18 күн бұрын
worst case scenario and we never get the remaining books, I hope we at least get a video, or a first hand/point-form breakdown of how the story is to end, in George's mind.
@gregburton5451
@gregburton5451 15 күн бұрын
Maybe if George hadn't posted cryptic posts then maybe, just maybe, there would be no speculation. Finish the books, George
@yannick930
@yannick930 19 күн бұрын
He gave us the end of game of thrones with the tv show. We are delusional by not accepting it and moving on. He is clearly not interested anymore by that. He wants to enjoy the time he has left and help bring to tv his previous work. It's his main focus. There is no way a guy is going to spend the few years he has left in hermitage writing instead of enjoying his late found success. Traveling, fine dinning, new experiences and spending some coins that he can't take with him in the afterlife. Good for him
@Howlingbrown
@Howlingbrown 19 күн бұрын
We are convinced he's finished but has been recommended to wait to keep fan interest high for the other 7 projects he's got going on. Even talks of eldenring series coming which will require his input.
@quicksilver815
@quicksilver815 18 күн бұрын
Sometimes you need to quit doing side quests and focus on the main mission, George.
@andrewroberts7948
@andrewroberts7948 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the work you have done to keep us updated over the years. I have enjoyed your channel and have held out hope that at some point there would be good news. I give up. I don't even want to hear news about the book anymore, so I need to remove mentions of it or any of his other works from my KZfaq. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors!
@GoGetYourShinebox
@GoGetYourShinebox 5 күн бұрын
Winds of Winter might. A Dream of Spring? Very unlikely
@samclontsii3548
@samclontsii3548 19 күн бұрын
C’mon Citadel, we need that white raven!!!
@setusharma8494
@setusharma8494 18 күн бұрын
Actually George r r martin and Patrick rothfuss are competing with each other
@akhilbabu_
@akhilbabu_ 18 күн бұрын
Roses are red, The defenition of Insanity is clear, "Winds of Winter will be out this year".
@rpgadventurer32
@rpgadventurer32 19 күн бұрын
It's unlikely he'll release it.
@losangelesdogerscal
@losangelesdogerscal 18 күн бұрын
A man has no name
@younes0048
@younes0048 13 күн бұрын
I wanna believe the theory that he is writing both of final books so he can release them at the same time and be done.
@vincentbeton
@vincentbeton 17 күн бұрын
At this point the only hope for this Series I still hold onto, is for him to announce Winds of Winter will be the last Book after all, not the second to last
@jonskogen9477
@jonskogen9477 19 күн бұрын
No more winds videos! I started reading these books when the first season of GoT came out and this man will be Robert Jordan 2.0. Get back to me after the funeral
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 19 күн бұрын
Hmmm 🤔 interesting so winter is coming this Christmas 🎅2026
@dcle944
@dcle944 16 күн бұрын
Honestly I wouldn’t be able to release a book after 13 years. It’s too much pressure. People will scrutinize over every word.
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 18 күн бұрын
Hopefully, it will be released eventually.
@Evan_Adams
@Evan_Adams 19 күн бұрын
I just wonder about his death. I'd like to see a better plan for the GOT world and canon than what Lucas did with Star Wars
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