New Battery technology that lasts decades, Lithium Titanate Oxid

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New Battery technology that lasts decades, Lithium Titanate Oxid - LTO

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A battery with a lifespan of a human being? Yes, with up to 30 000 cycles, it may serve you 82 years (one cycle per day).
Lithium-based technology:
Lithium titanate (Li4Ti5O12, referred to as LTO in the battery industry) is a promising technology for applications with high requirements like high charge and/or discharge current rate, long lifetime and extreme temperature conditions.
Safety, stability:
LTO offers advantages in terms of power and chemical stability. The LTO based batteries have lower voltage: between 2.8V and 1.5V (the nominal voltage is 2.3V). Nevertheless, the lower operating voltage brings significant advantages in terms of safety.
Fast charge and discharge:
Further, these batteries can be charged fast. Data shows that these batteries can be safely charged at rates higher than 5C. This means the battery can be charged in less than 10 minutes. The maximum charge and discharge rate is 10C so in this case, it is 400A!
High efficiency:
The LTO based batteries also have a wider operating temperature range and a recharge efficiency exceeding 98%.
Wide operation temperature range:
LTO based batteries provide much better low-temperature performance compared to carbon-based batteries. The operation ambient temperature range is from -50°C to 65°C.
Extreme durable life-cycle:
The large cycle life and high rate capability of LTO based batteries also bring unique advantages in applications where maximal cycle life is required. Using those cells properly you can easily exceed 30,000 cycles lifetime.
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@PastelComGini 5 жыл бұрын

I swear to God this woman says "The Bluetooth device is ready to pair" in my headphones.

@tomasbrod1533 5 жыл бұрын

It is Czech accent.

@spedracer55 5 жыл бұрын

IM FKN DOOONE💀💀💀💀

@DivergentDroid 5 жыл бұрын

You are right it is her. She had to take another job because she cannot sell these batteries.

@maze42d 5 жыл бұрын

Nope it's really heavy czech accent. The weight scale is also set to czech. The generic bluetooth audio chip woman has really heavy chinese accent.

@j.cheeverloophole9029 5 жыл бұрын

@@tomasbrod1533 I'll check...

@mysock351C 5 жыл бұрын

The claimed cycle capacity is impressive, but by the time you get one assembled at a useable voltage, its the same size as a comparable 40-50 Ah lead-acid deep cycle battery. Probably still good for backup power use if they are stable and handle cycling well, and a bit easier on the back to move.

@Dragon-Slay3r 7 ай бұрын

The E pig is also there and they can't use the building skyline anymore 😭

@funposting8912 5 жыл бұрын

If these batteries are anything like the specs list, this’ll be a game changer, even at 85% efficiency. If they’re anything close to 85% after 2k cycles, it’s basically game over to Li-ion. I’d love to grab some of these and throw them into a test rig for a month to see how they last

@MusicVidsLife 5 жыл бұрын

can I use these batteries to make like a 24 volt or 36 volt battery for electric bike

@johanfredin5153 2 жыл бұрын

@@MusicVidsLife Yeah, but package wil be very heavy over 10 kg.

@ryanroberts1104 2 жыл бұрын

@@johanfredin5153 2 years later, they are only manufactured in China and most people have never heard of them. Obviously not a hit product.

@xhobv02 Жыл бұрын

@@ryanroberts1104 They are really as good as promissed and almost impossible to wear out (even top battery researcher Jeff Dahn has mantioned it) but their main disadvantage is the extremely high cost. For 1 kWh capacity of LTO you can get 5 kWh or more of LiFePo4.

@ryanroberts1104 Жыл бұрын

@@xhobv02 Then that means they don't last longer. If you get a 5kw battery, and only use the middle 1kw, any lithium chemistry will last nearly forever. Longer than LTO if the LTO is being fully or more deeply cycled.

@1D10CRACY 5 жыл бұрын

With the teminals on each end, how are you going to lick it to tell if it's charged?

@larrymacdonald4241 5 жыл бұрын

I think if you could lick both ends of the battery at the same time, the last thing you would be doing is building batteries :P~

@botiroti1 5 жыл бұрын

Clamp jumper cables to your tongue, then we'll complete the circuit......

@williamwilson6499 5 жыл бұрын

harry camper Dick...you beat me to it.

@gillenzfluff8380 5 жыл бұрын

Touch 1 end with fingers and the other end with tongue.

@OOICU812 5 жыл бұрын

You guys are making this way too complicated. Just lick one side, then lick the other. It's not rocket science.

@LFOVCF 5 жыл бұрын

If these are the batteries, how big is the remote control?

@crominion6045 5 жыл бұрын

The size of a twin mattress.

@xeobit2781 5 жыл бұрын

It is the remote control

@Bob_Dub 5 жыл бұрын

I bet my missus would still lose it down the back of the sofa.

@bendoherty7721 5 жыл бұрын

Imagine the size of the vibrator

@MrQhuin 5 жыл бұрын

@@bendoherty7721 bruh 😂

@The_Real_Indiana_Joe 5 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna need a bigger flashlight.

@louisdelmonte8728 5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha! Best comment so far!!!

@hughjanus1135 4 жыл бұрын

You mean fleshlight

@taraaliyeva1813 4 жыл бұрын

Lol lol lol

@markhodgson2348 4 жыл бұрын

Or your wife is

@scetchport 4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha.

@02337755 5 жыл бұрын

These were the AA’s of the 1800’s

@hdj81Vlimited 4 жыл бұрын

they had then the salt-iron batteries, like they now promote again.

@Wingnut353 4 жыл бұрын

They also had Leden Jars which Benjamin Franklin attempted to cook a turkey with (by electrocuting the turkey) ... and almost killed himself. They are an early predecessor of the capacitor.

@adriaankoffiekar6442 3 жыл бұрын

@@Wingnut353 Leiden, not Leden, Leiden is a Uni town, I have an instrument powered by two Leiden Jars.

@millanferende6723 4 жыл бұрын

Guys, keep in mind these have a 85% discharge efficiency, compared to a Lifepo4s 99%. I hope this will improve somehow in the future. These cost 150% more than capacity equivalent Lifepo4 batteries and are also heavier (I did a rough comparison below) BUT... these last 5x longer and have a 0 chance of fire hazard. So this will be perfect for a house. But Not good for something like a camper van or a plane yet.

@robertjanbout1437 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Do your testing. These have up to 99% efficiency. Yes, if you pull the advertised 10c, you get 85% of the capacity. Same for LiFePo4, if you take 10c cells and pull 10c, you won't get full capacity. The key feature here is they can withstand more abuse (higher temperature) than LFP so with the same internal resistance, more current can flow before the thermal limits are reached. Lishen 16A cells are crazy at this, they can deliver 800A(20c) constantly. The efficiency drops to 45%, so quick math says it can be discharged in 32,4 seconds. Try that 100 times with LFP.

@SwampDonkey64 4 жыл бұрын

The technology of battery performance will change the world. Imagine being capable of harvesting and storing the power of a single lightning bolt.

@CuttingEdgePowerLLC 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! a battery with a lifespan of a human. The batteries are big. They could be useful for utility scale solar; people who cares how long the battery lasts are gonna love them.

@wolfgangboettcher3126 9 ай бұрын

So lernen wir den Wellen impuls einer guten Batterie

@Charlesincharge42 5 жыл бұрын

If they were really smart, they would use the same form factor as existing batteries thus showing a massive capacity improvement for the same space. All without making it more expensive to convert existing applications.

@chesshooligan1282 5 жыл бұрын

No, their energy density is smaller than that of lithium ion.

@ScinnerNo1 5 жыл бұрын

@@chesshooligan1282 lithium ION isn´t a battery chemistry. It´s the general name for all the different lithium chemistries. Lithium Nickel Cobalt Aluminum Oxide -is a lithium ION battery Lithium Iron Phosphate -is a lithium ION battery Lithium Cobalt Oxide -is a lithium ION battery Lithium Manganese Oxide -is a lithium ION battery Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt Oxide -is a lithium ION battery Lithium Titanate -is a lithium ION battery (The chemistry in this video) Source: batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/types_of_lithium_ion

@janglur 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScinnerNo1 LiCoO2 is what most referring to 'lithium ion' mean as it's the overwhelming majority of chemistry used historically and even today in most devices. They're usually good for 0.5A to 3A per cell, and 1800-2400mAh in 18650 style cells at 3.6 to 4.2v peak and high volatility. LiPo is denser, usually good for 0.5 to 1A per cell and 2000-4000mAh for a small flat pack at 3.9 to 4.2v peak and VERY high volatility. LiMnCo, LiNiMnCo, NMC, and NCR batteries are newer and can handle up to 50A with 1200-2000mAh capacity at 4.1 to 4.3v peak in the 18650 and down sizes, and are reduced-volatility. LiFePO4 are can handle a range of 0.5 to 10A with 1500-2500mAh in smaller cells, at 3.4-3.6v peak and very low volatility. LTOs are powerhouses for amperage, handling usually 100-150 to as much as 500A at 2.4-3.0v, with the Ah around 15 to 40Ah. These are BIG cells tho.

@ScinnerNo1 3 жыл бұрын

@@janglur And I said that you shouldn't refer lithium ion to a special chemistry(not even LiCoO2) as it's a common name for ALL lithium chemistries. But thank you for the stats but you should try using C ratings instead, that way it's easier to compare chemistries .

@eddierodden 5 жыл бұрын

Would have been helpful to see them in action in real life situations.

@catch22frubert Жыл бұрын

I know this is a really old comment, but I saw a guy who had 160Ah pack of these cells at 15 volts, so 4 cells in parallel and 6 in series. He accidentally shorted the main positive and negative, which were high quality silver tinned 2/0 pure copper car audio wire, and the clamp meter was maxed out at 5000 amps. So a 6s4p pack of these cells easily put out over 5000 amps at around 14 volts. I've also seen these cells fully charged to 15.8v and the positive and negative were shorted with a big wrench in between the positive and negative as a resistor, and the cells melted the big wrench no problem. The wrench was nothing but a puddle of molten steel by the end of the test, and the cells were still perfectly fine and they operated normally with no damage or degradation.

@FlyingFun. 5 жыл бұрын

Quite a bit % drop in voltage over the discharge cycle so power output will vary more than lipo or lifpo4 but I'll take that if it means they really last that amount of cycles, I'd love to see smaller cells for e-bikes too.

@joellontoc3231 3 жыл бұрын

I recently bought a 72v battery pack consisting of 30ah lto cells from AliExpress for just under $1250.00 Canadian dollars for my ebike.

@fsdfmsbcxx 5 жыл бұрын

400A Charging current O_O So the charger comes with a life insurance, right? :)

@Julian-xb1se 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Uglydollsrises23132 5 жыл бұрын

And PPE

@cayrex 5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha good one 😂

@naohwatson854 5 жыл бұрын

It is the same as your high-end car battery.

@Quast 5 жыл бұрын

No, but with a t-rex for your personal protection

@MrMusic55123 2 жыл бұрын

this is the future of car batteries, the complete car battery can charge in 10min and they last over 30 years!!!

@ryanroberts1104 2 жыл бұрын

Except there is no proof that they actually last that long. Nothing made in china lasts that long.

@thinshadow6669 4 жыл бұрын

They are popular amongst the car audio community as their charging rate is fast allowing for less of a voltage drop. I have two banks of 6 35ah cells with a 320 amp alternator and my voltage only drops 0.6v with my system pulling about 8,000 watts rms. They are definitely not meant to be used without a constant supply of energy.

@ferrarifast1429 2 жыл бұрын

Do they run at 12v?

@TauCu 2 жыл бұрын

@@ferrarifast1429 They run at whatever voltage you arrange them in. Each cell has a max voltage of 2.8 volts, so with 5 cells in series you could charge them to a comfortable 14 volts. Assuming your alternator puts out 13.5 volts it leaves a comfortable .5 volt buffer from their max voltage.

@Soothsayer210 5 жыл бұрын

they look more like Capacitors than Batteries.

@wowulam7411 5 жыл бұрын

when you think about it they do both the same thing, they store some charges.

@Soothsayer210 5 жыл бұрын

@@wowulam7411 no, capacitors store electrical charges whereas batteries produce electricity from chemical energy which is why Capacitors are larger in Size and can handle much higher charge/ discharge rates than batteries.

@nekomancer9157 5 жыл бұрын

how so? never seen a d-cell? or A-cell, aa-cell, aaa-cell? used to be most batteries were tubular. notice the poles are at either end. to look like a capacitor they would need both terminals on one end

@ESkateLP 5 жыл бұрын

@@nekomancer9157 "they would need both terminals on one end" That is not true. Search axial capacitors.

@achachm 5 жыл бұрын

@@nekomancer9157 🤦‍♂️

@domesday1535 4 жыл бұрын

wow! usable in -50c that's actually enough to be safe here year round. Just last month it got under -40c here so you can imagine it can be a problem. I think this is the only battery I've seen you can use in my part of the world without having to worry about temperature. Those other specs are quite impressive too

@aleksandersats9577 5 жыл бұрын

Finally a phone battery that won't fucking die in a year

@hellcat1988 4 жыл бұрын

Gonna be a hell of a day when they get these to under $40 per cell consistently. As it stands, they're just too expensive compared to alternatives unless they fit your needs specifically.

@janglur 3 жыл бұрын

Currently $80 individually bought, or a pre-assembled 6-pack for $450.

@snorttroll4379 Жыл бұрын

Per per kwh pver theor life amd for max stprage?

@micheals1992 4 жыл бұрын

The capacity is lower on these cells 40ah @ 2.3v (92wh) Vs 40ah at 3.3v (132wh). Also, you could theoretically get 30,000 cycles from existing lithium batteries if you use a narrow range of the discharge curve (like 60-40%).

@GWLPowered 4 жыл бұрын

30 000 cycles is well beyond even theoretical life-span of most Lithium batteries. That said, LTO is currently existing Lithium based battery :)

@girlsdrinkfeck 2 жыл бұрын

lithium batteries ud be lucky to get 1000 charges with a 80% charge

@bongofury3176 5 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna have to build a trailer for my RC trucks...

@carpathian677 5 жыл бұрын

Ladies worry no more, these will last on your days of deeper needs!

@glenngoetz3054 5 жыл бұрын

The Womanizer could go long enough to kill most Women with this pack!!!

@Paghmani1sher 4 жыл бұрын

@@glenngoetz3054 y would it kill them ?

@BillFromHalifax 5 жыл бұрын

And you forgot to mention average people can't afford them.

@supremelegionjr7768 5 жыл бұрын

Thats what I need to finish my fallout 4 power armor cosplay

@matthewlachance3362 3 жыл бұрын

Seriously though you could make a case for one with a 3D printer that looks like a fusion core

@GRBtutorials 5 жыл бұрын

This isn’t new, though. LTO has existed for years already, but they are quite expensive in comparison with others, otherwise they’d be widely used in EVs since they have quite good characteristics, the only other disadvantage being the energy density.

@honumoorea873 5 жыл бұрын

Not good for ev.... discharge capacity is like 85% while lion give something like 98%.

@GRBtutorials 5 жыл бұрын

@@honumoorea873 What do you mean with that? Are you referring to energy efficiency? Because I can't find anything about that on Google. Also, LTO is Li-ion as well, it just has a different anode chemistry, with titanium nanocrystals on its surface. Most batteries nowadays are either LCO (lithium cobalt oxide) or NMC (lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxide).

@harmate123 4 жыл бұрын

@@honumoorea873why care abt discharging when fast charging options are available,means u could charge at max speed bfr u finish ur coffee when mass producing battery prices will come down,for this shift to happen only tesla could make an initiate

@doooofus 2 жыл бұрын

@@GRBtutorials i am guessing they are and got the 85% figure from will prowse who did a video on them a while back, but since followed it up with an update indicating he may have been mis-sold grade B cells, hence the 85% figure. i think the grade a cells he managed to get hold of later pulled 99% efficiency. the real reason i would say these are not good for EVs is that they have really poor volumetric energy density and specific energy density. for a standard 5 door saloon type car youd probably need all of the trunk space and rear seating to be replaced with LTO cells to get any range lol, or so i would imagine. though interestingly it seems that the yinglong company that sells these cells actually distribute them to EV companies for use as minibuses and such, before after up to 10 years they redistribute them through retailers like GWL who made this video for use in stationary storage systems. i am not sure whether that is true as i dont think LTO chemistry has even been in use for that long, but that is the info i have read on diysolarforum, on the thread titled "LTO Grade A AliExpress cells", on the 6th post by Tobi17, so i would recommend you look it up yourself. i have yet to get in touch with GWL to find out exactly how new their yinlong cells are but i would be extremely upset to put down all that money just to learn i wasnt getting brand new cells

@TheLondonCyclist 4 жыл бұрын

Can I just stick 2 of these in my electric scooter? Lord that would be amazing. Imagine sticking this in an off-road electric mountain bike, too or even one battery into a road bike. :D

@TheLondonCyclist 4 жыл бұрын

@@talesoftheblueeyedindian2412 Yeah, after research, I realised lol. Do you reckon solid state batteries will make an appearance in 5-10 years? Would be cool

@rich1051414 5 жыл бұрын

FYI, the energy density is no higher than a LiPo. It just seems that way because of the lower nominal voltage.

@dtesta 2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what she says in the video, so what's your point??

@rich1051414 2 жыл бұрын

@@dtesta Sadly most people won't sit through the whole video and it's meant as a cliff note to those people who would like to know that. Not every comment was meant for you.

@dtesta 2 жыл бұрын

@@rich1051414 So people don't have 2 minutes to watch the video, but they would scroll down and read your comment? Yeah, sure...

@FinlayDaG33k 5 жыл бұрын

"new battery technology" I mean... it's been there for 7 years but still dope nonetheless

@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but it doesn't seem like it has been available very consistently. I read somewhere that Yinlong had problems producing and that some batteries were repackaged from older stock or something, not sure, but it sounds like they're getting into the swing of things.

@FinlayDaG33k 5 жыл бұрын

@@lorcro2000 the tech has been around since 2004 as far as I could see but wasn't really that viable at the time (due to manufacturing issues n stuff). It's basically like EV's: have been around for ages but wasn't commercially viable.

@GWLPowered 5 жыл бұрын

You are right, the actual technology has been around for a while now. The difference really comes to market availability and realiability, these need their time.

@jean-baptistefox2819 5 жыл бұрын

@GWL Power : And I want to add price have also a lot to do. Not as many persons look up at the long term, and besides new technology we have not that much experience about it. Medium term availability and prices are, I think, the sweet spot for this to raise.

@bestvideos4ever1 4 жыл бұрын

@@GWLPowered what did you mean with raliability? Lithium Ion are very dangerous, flamable and explosive....how this can be realible? i don't get it...

@christ7703 5 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention the declining 85% discharge efficiency.

@eowendyl 5 жыл бұрын

This is a major drawback, but still does not rule these batteries out by any means in an offgrid setting.

@christ7703 5 жыл бұрын

@@eowendyl after a few thousand cycles 85% will become 75.. 65.. 55 until it quickly becomes unbearable. Sure for very few applications the 20000 cycle life is a huge advantage but for the most it makes no sense.

@modemmack 5 жыл бұрын

@@christ7703 You seem up on the science. Are you in the industry or just an avid learner?

@drgrunn174 5 жыл бұрын

@@christ7703 Hristos in reality it is like that - acid battery or lipo will be completely useless after 5 years (1500 cycles), but those will still hold lets say 65% ... so - not so bad.Even if they go down to 40% after 10 years (3.5-4k charges) it is again purrfect for offgrid, yes? This means that after 10 years you will have around 16Ah. Compare that to acid - after 10 years you will use 3rd set with already lowered capacity; or the mass-Li - you will use 2nd set again with already lowered capacity. Of course, the future sets of any kind are expected to be cheaper, so one have to do the math carefully.

@christ7703 5 жыл бұрын

@@drgrunn174 When you say lipo i assume you mean Lifepo4. In that case the cycle life is 3000 at 80% DOD. At that point capacity loss is only 20% which means that with proper usage they can last at least a decade. About the 50% discharge efficiency of the titanate ones at the end of their lifespan.. That doesn't mean only that someone has to install twice the capacity on batteries(and they're not cheap) but also in solar panels too.

@Aranimda Жыл бұрын

Do these exist in the shape of sealed lead acid batteries, with battery management system against over- and undercharging? I'm currently using several UPS units with Yuasa NP18-12 batteries and I'm looking for a safe in-place replacement for these.

@KyudoKun 5 жыл бұрын

I can imagine how heavy and big phones will become if they equip it with this huge battery.

@fidelcatsro6948 5 жыл бұрын

the phone will also last for months before needing a recharge... 40ah is a lot of stored friskies enenrgy

@taylorn1242 5 жыл бұрын

This is an absolutely amazing! This is going to replace my AGM battery for my kayak trolling motor 160 amp hours capacity only weighing 11 lbs!

@TheOleHermit 5 жыл бұрын

@marthale7 I have purchased many items from China (USA can't supply) and have found that most Chinese companies are willing to bend over backwards to satisfy their customers. They should be emulated, not slandered.

@mailtoray 5 жыл бұрын

When you pay premium price you got A grade product. Just image you need roughly 750k usd to buy a 900 SF apartment in Shenzhen, that explains everything.

@biffbinford8767 5 жыл бұрын

Have you done it yet? Did it work?

@handydanonyoutube3852 5 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. only 2.3VDC at 40Ahr? That would take 170 cells in series to make 391VDC and 4 sets in parallel just to make a 60KWh for an electric car. 680 cells at $55 ea= $37,400. An OEM Battery is less and it is already assembled with an onboard BMS. Still a ways to go to be cost affective.

@petertraveller6421 5 жыл бұрын

The product is good, the price have one zero too much. Maybe after 10 more years the price is acceptable.

@P44man 5 жыл бұрын

10C charging means ~ 6 minutes from empty to full. And 30K cycles means, well, forever for an EV. You wouldnt expect a battery with those abilities to cost the same as current ones.

@bluewanderer9903 5 жыл бұрын

DZDZigns LLC and then the size, 5 vs 4 for the same power these are 200grams heavier, and the more you add the more space is needed due to shape

@cameronbruce1862 5 жыл бұрын

Why not?

@zoesdada8923 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@HannesSchleeh 2 жыл бұрын

Yinlong Energy, we visited their factory in Zhuhai in 2016. Nice cells! They showed us how secure they are. The produce buses there too.

@waylonk2453 7 ай бұрын

Cool to hear you've been behind the scenes

@ccv3237 2 жыл бұрын

Great product! Excellent, and beautiful presenter.

@WillProwse 5 жыл бұрын

Do you guys ship to USA? Edit: I have already tested LTO cells and did not like their cost/weight/discharge efficiency for solar. I was asking if they shipped to USA because I want their LiFePO4 cells and winston drop in model. That's all. LTO is great for car audio and a few other applications, but not for solar. The 20-30k cycles doesn't really matter for solar if cycled once a day because calendar aging will kill the cells first. So you are much better off buying LiFePO4, which are cheaper, will last just as long, more efficient, lighter etc. And finding a way to charge at 5-10c is very difficult, and for most applications, not that useful. Even if you find a way to charge these quickly, they are extremely heavy. Which is why you will never find a LTO car/ebike/scooter. Too many downsides. I made a whole video testing lto and was not impressed. Would avoid them for solar like the plague.

@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын

I found some on Alibaba, as well, searching for Yinlong 66160. There's also a 66260 which is longer, and 55 Ah. If I were in Europe I'd buy via GWL, but in the US perhaps you may want to gamble a bit and hit Alibaba up. The prices per battery is lower there too, not surprising considering shipping and European taxes.

@netrocker9990 5 жыл бұрын

Oh will you are a god

@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын

@@04tb2 Good info. Price could be better, though. Getting the same cells from Alibaba could cut the price by as much as half, at least judging by the amounts I saw them quoting on the sites. Assuming you plan to buy 10+ units, anyway.

@mosta5 5 жыл бұрын

I will wait your review man . good luck on finding them .

@dustinhoepker3051 5 жыл бұрын

i would also be interested in these. could be worth investing in.

@johndarwen6991 5 жыл бұрын

I need that battery for my mobile phone. Thanks.😮😊😏

@fireofenergy 3 жыл бұрын

I can only light red, orange, amber and yellow. But hey, no fancy electronics needed 😁

@shaadydog1 5 жыл бұрын

A bit much for a Vape but whatever floats your boat I guess...

@jamescopeland8813 5 жыл бұрын

Hamfist vapers only 😂😂😂

@adrianTNT 5 жыл бұрын

goat* , whatever floats your goat ! :))

@dannyfubar3099 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent post, Thank You for sharing.

@byram101 4 жыл бұрын

Her voice is incredibly pleasant! repeat repeat!

@dgb5820 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic application

@OH8STN 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! What about solar charge controllers for LTO? Any options?

@Skhillz_FN 3 жыл бұрын

Not at the moment you would need to design your own charging circuit once you've built that then you can research tying it to mppt config's or otherwise

@bowlampar 5 жыл бұрын

Sound great, but is it actually perform as claimed??

@ThePaulv12 5 жыл бұрын

Yep. Rushed into the market and uses the consumer as a full paying beta tester. I know how it works ..

@mauroscimone8584 5 жыл бұрын

Lam Par no another youtuber test a similar cell same format, claimed 40 Ah but ~30 Ah tested and 85% discharge efficiency, not really good.

@bowlampar 4 жыл бұрын

@@mauroscimone8584 The claims seem too good to be true. May be just another baloney in fraudulent marketing trick. The manufacturer is not even a renown battery technology inventor nor research company.

@davey2k12 5 жыл бұрын

Maxwell super/ultra capacitors combined with these cells would be good for ebike 😁

@Balancinglife 5 жыл бұрын

Maxwell is capacitor

@cayrex 5 жыл бұрын

That is a beast combination with 3000F ultracaps,... but this also need some space

@krrk6337 5 жыл бұрын

cells seem too big to set up for ebikes

@davey2k12 5 жыл бұрын

@@krrk6337 oh yes without a doubt bike frame need mods 12 of em lol

@christopherleubner6633 5 жыл бұрын

Indeed that is exactly the intended operation of these. They work in tandem with super capacitor arrays for ups and regenerative braking systems. The combination also works nice for intermittent high drain solar as well.

@oldnick9084 4 жыл бұрын

Won't get any of these till I hear from my trusted sources. You should also.

@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын

It does look like a very cool technology. Primarily, for people who are considering putting batteries in their mobile homes or van conversions, the fact that you can charge them even under -0c is a pretty big factor. What BMS would you recommend with these? Can the 123 SmartBMS be used?

@davey2k12 5 жыл бұрын

Self build one to match the cells no point in getting Chineseium one they made for single cells and would take forever to balance .... look for balance charger some show cell resistance

@GWLPowered 5 жыл бұрын

123 SmartBMS is currently not supporting LTO, we have our own BMS made - www.ev-power.eu/Modular/ , this BMS will be commercially available this month. Also the SmartBMS is developing update to support LTO (ETA is sometime in 2020 though).

@lorcro2000 5 жыл бұрын

@@GWLPowered Thanks, good to see there are options. I like the relative simplicity of the 123 unit but whatever works.

@mikewinkker4897 5 жыл бұрын

GWL Power pp

@AsgardsGlory 5 жыл бұрын

I need that for my vape!!!

@whenufirstrealized 3 жыл бұрын

smoke a fat one.

@gerardhaubert8210 5 жыл бұрын

What about a BMS (battery mngt system)?

@cameronbruce1862 5 жыл бұрын

What are the charge discharge losses like ?

@richardscathouse 4 жыл бұрын

At least no cobalt, still waiting for graphene...

@HarryHoppins 3 жыл бұрын

Lithium titanate is the anode, the cathode could still be cobalt oxide.

@nikolasjanku4845 3 жыл бұрын

Rather large and expensive but I can't help but want to put these on a ebike and see how it goes

@olivierbraun941 3 жыл бұрын

bit late to comment, but yes i guess for someone who wants an e-bike just for some additional whooomp at one (or several) steep climb on his commute may be well served with such cells (and not so much of them) due to their high current rating - although they cant match standard li-ion on specific capacity.

@imstelios 5 жыл бұрын

While doing my research I found this instead: yuengling beer Mmmmmm!

@ny1t 5 жыл бұрын

I fall back to Yuengling when I can't find Shiner Bock. Of course the gout put the kibosh on all beer.

@gillenzfluff8380 5 жыл бұрын

Alcohol is nasty.

@Ranchero_R7 5 жыл бұрын

Glenn G. Sounds like something Homer Simpson would say

@cameronbruce1862 5 жыл бұрын

Only one cycle though not 30.000. Still in development!

@josephgrochowski1942 4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Iron City

@IIGrayfoxII 5 жыл бұрын

If they make these in a thinner package that is say 20Ah or even 10Ah. With 6 wired in series you could make a nice little SLA replacement which will be lighter. Great for crazy car enthusiasts that chase every kg in weight reduction.

@jamesmason7124 2 жыл бұрын

I like Lto cells only problem is that they are too expensive, when they come down in price then I will buy a lot of LTO cells

@kenmasters007 5 жыл бұрын

We love you yinLONG time !

@Chief305 5 жыл бұрын

Someone build a giant mech mod to harness this power

@CouchCommander5000 5 жыл бұрын

i just came down here to comment roughly the same thing lol.

@AhmadIzhamIsmail 5 жыл бұрын

Lol #stayswag

@crominion6045 5 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking an unregulated box mod with 4 of these in series. 😂

@CouchCommander5000 5 жыл бұрын

@@crominion6045 .06ohm

@MikkoPaakkola 4 жыл бұрын

What kind of company needs to put ads on their ad video? I guess the product is not selling too well.

@GWLPowered 4 жыл бұрын

Mikko, it is eventually simple reason. We make videos about the products to show them to more people. KZfaq heavily prefers to show videos with the Ads enabled. We use Ads to reach out to people, like you. Not to make money off them. It is a paradox, we would much prefer to not use Ads overall, there is next to no profit to be made on Ads .)

@MikMech 5 жыл бұрын

I could listen to her all day ...........

@MrMiaunel 5 жыл бұрын

Lithium-titanate cells also last for 3000 to 7000 charge cycles...wiki, not 30.000

@voidex136 5 жыл бұрын

Wiki was also written by people. So who is right? Its amazing if those cells last for 30k cycles. Imagine you bought electric car and there no need to change the battery. But even 8k still impressive

@PlasmaBurns 5 жыл бұрын

Wiki is just another book of the Talmud. Its Jewish revisionist history.

@truantray 5 жыл бұрын

@@voidex136 what. I think you mean no need to change the battery. Cycles have nothing to do with capacity. For home power or grid buffering, these could last decades.

@popeyegordon 5 жыл бұрын

@@PlasmaBurns Flagged for hate speech. Fuck off asshole. Nobody wants to see that shit. We have too many shootings already.

@popeyegordon 5 жыл бұрын

@@davehimlin2374 Asshole hate troll flagged again. Next offense will result in your channel being reported.

@kevinroberts781 4 жыл бұрын

I'll wait for a zero point energy cell.

@Paghmani1sher 4 жыл бұрын

I am sure they insane secret technology in used by us military for example but top secret

@lee1978good 4 жыл бұрын

Could these be rigged up to work as a car battery replacement or is the charging/discharging requirements too demanding?

@TonberryShuffle 4 жыл бұрын

A battery that theoretically lasts the lifetime of the vehicle...? Shhhhh....That kind of talk gets sketchy people from companies that shall not be named stopping by your house.

@lee1978good 4 жыл бұрын

@@TonberryShuffle I'll bury them in my backyard with the others 😀

@TauCu 2 жыл бұрын

Sure it would work but keep in mind your alternator is "designed" (poorly) to charge Lead Acid (also poorly) and if you used it to charge a Lithium or NiMH cell it could overcurrent your alternator and burn the shit out of it. Lithium batteries basically charge like short circuits. You would be best to add some current limiting to it. It also may wear your starter motor as they're not actually designed to run at 12 volts (when they start your engine the battery voltage drops on lead acid, it wouldn't drop much at all on lithium)

@swedensy 5 жыл бұрын

Prices are sick. There is a reason why Pb batteries will still be on the market long time.

@beachboardfan9544 5 жыл бұрын

Asian company using a hot Russian spokesperson... thats a lot of red flags.

5 жыл бұрын

Probably a fraud company

@beachboardfan9544 5 жыл бұрын

Javier Hernandez, I recommend you find out how pretty Russian women wind up in Asian countries in the first place.

@kellydardeen6308 5 жыл бұрын

Yep ! She could Sell me Dead Battery's : )

@parikshitverma2897 5 жыл бұрын

@@kellydardeen6308 maybe tubes filled with sand

@GWLPowered 5 жыл бұрын

As brief clarification: Czech (European Union) company, represented by Czech person showing Chinese product. Consider Chinese producing absolute majority of world available batteries, there are no surprises to have. But our accent is indeed specific :)

@Gpgesell1 4 жыл бұрын

I swear she talks to me in my dreams

@boneyfreak9197 5 жыл бұрын

Now if they could make them as light as hydrogen that would be a breakthrough and make sense in a car or other mode of transportation.

@richardzan4077 Жыл бұрын

So my information has already been confirmed, they sell category B batteries on the Aliexpress internet network. These are batteries with a high internal resistance and they discharge themselves very quickly

@ahelpinghand8340 4 жыл бұрын

I'll never get two of those in my walkman 😂

@oldbatwit5102 4 жыл бұрын

Put one down your pants. You will never drink alone.

@miscbits6399 4 жыл бұрын

Just stick your walkman between two of them and hold it there with a rubber band

@rogeralton2179 5 жыл бұрын

How do they know they will last for decades?

@DarkChasmGamers 5 жыл бұрын

Google "LTO". It's proven tech

@hustlaz2k 4 жыл бұрын

it really practical for bigger appliances... home electricity... or an electric car... n etc...

@run4digital593 3 жыл бұрын

Jhakkass ❤️ video 👍,,,

@------country-boy------- 5 жыл бұрын

if i buy these batteries i might have to hire an army to defend against oil companies - but still totally worth it !!!

@jomichael1060 5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha 😂🤣😂 🤣

@terrafirmament 5 жыл бұрын

Hey, I like her accent, so leave her alone. P.S. Great cells!!!

@user-uw1wq9rj8g 4 жыл бұрын

In the next few years, this battery will powering up lots of electric vehicles.

@richardscathouse 4 жыл бұрын

That I won't be able to buy! #DumpTrump2020 you have only commerce to gain!

@Marginal391 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏.

@0bl4ckb1rd0 5 жыл бұрын

suspiciously similar to maxwell supercaps

@flywithjordanparagliding 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing! I'll be ordering soon 😁

@eugy2008 3 жыл бұрын

So there LTOs can be charged at -50C and above with no issues at all???

@mitchelsmith7076 3 жыл бұрын

{Great product much gratitude is it suitable for deep cycle solar use?}

@StefanReich 4 жыл бұрын

This woman has such an honest look in her eyes

@bobcatman3844 5 жыл бұрын

the yellow one are 100ah each and the blue one is 40ah so 4 yellow makes 12 v 100 ah and you need 10 blue to make the same amours makes it heavy

@richarddesbiens796 4 жыл бұрын

where did you see yellow one at 100 ah ,on their site the yellow ones i see are 18650 and have only 1300mah that is 1.3 ah

@RoadRashSpirit 4 жыл бұрын

4x2.3 is not 12 its 9.2. You need 6 for 13.8 ish that makes good for a 12v battery. I did some maths on the fly but might be wrong but I calculated these are 3 times more expensive than 18650 per kwh using a 48 volt series connection. Would need to work it out on paper to confirm if I'm right.

@xpertcrush 4 жыл бұрын

@@RoadRashSpirit wrong, you just need 5 of them since 2.3 is nominal voltage, so fully charged would be around 2.8*5 which ic 14v which is fine.

@RoadRashSpirit 4 жыл бұрын

@@xpertcrush I wouldn't flat say its wrong, it depends on how you want to use or regulate the battery, at 5 your nominal voltage is bellow required voltage and this wastes some potential of the battery depending on use. Its easier to regulate excess voltage smoothly over boosting under volatge. That said if you never wanted the battery to drop below a high percentage it may be useful having only 5.

@flowerpt 3 жыл бұрын

@@RoadRashSpirit This is the comment I was looking for. Thank you.

@plaguearttutorials 3 жыл бұрын

imagine an E scooter with this tech!

@joellontoc3231 3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered a 72v 30ah lto for my electric scooter today.

@ioloavatar8430 5 жыл бұрын

I've seen a battery and tested with a voltage meter that was a little over 100yrs with still voltage. ... The battery had asbestos on the wiring and was wrapped with asbestos . The battery was hanging in a cubby hole from a side wall . On a 5th floor building . Building has a historical build . Does anyone no what maybe it was used for . Telegraph , ring a alarm bell or vintage telephone maybe ?

@midelicm273 5 жыл бұрын

82 years?!!The same was said about dvds(150years).And I couldn't play them after one year.

@HepauDK 5 жыл бұрын

There is however a big differnce between DVD-ROM and DVD-R/RW. I can still play the DVD movies I bought nearly 20 years ago. It is all a matter of how the content was stored on the media. I can still read most of the discs burnt on high quality media from 15 years ago as well (Verbatim).

@sc0tte1-416 5 жыл бұрын

Why would DVDs degrade? They are physical media technically they should last forever unless something physically damages it?

@fidelcatsro6948 5 жыл бұрын

leave this test to carry on in your will.. if you lighting leds with this it will prbably last 99yrs

@HepauDK 5 жыл бұрын

@@sc0tte1-416 Aaaaand the last part is what does it. You really should google "dvd degradation" Read and learn. I have burnt hundreds of dvds back in the day before large capacity harddrives became affordable, and quite a few doesn't work anymore, even though they were stored in fairly dry and dark conditions (CD/DVD folders in a closet in my office). My guess is, you have not really been using a Burner yourself...

@sc0tte1-416 5 жыл бұрын

@@HepauDK actually, back in the day I was quite the xvid pirate and have a huge collection of movies...but I haven't tried using them lately. I'm sort of assuming the plastic surrounding the burnt metal media is what degrades and takes the very tiny 1's and 0s with it. Never really put much thought into it.

@theuktoday4233 5 жыл бұрын

I can't tell you what my girlfriend said about the size of those batteries ~ giant rabbit?

@foufoufun 3 жыл бұрын

It'll last for a decade (=

@DarrenTarmey 4 жыл бұрын

Hi i found this chart that shows different chemistry characteristics but it doesn't show Lithium Titanate Oxid - LTO were would these batteries fall on the list

@MrHump86 4 жыл бұрын

Is this type of battery ideal for auxiliary power in a camper van or RV? How does it compare to Luthuli ion?

@slevinshafel9395 5 жыл бұрын

when you make Solid Lithim Battery reinvented by Jhon B. Goodenought and Helena Braga? That is real battery 23.000 cicles, x6 more capacity 3,7V and low weight.

@frankspeaking2630 5 жыл бұрын

Many are trying for a practical version for a mobile environment as it depends on a ceramic element which is very fragile

@superdau 5 жыл бұрын

And it comes with magic pixies inside!! That battery doesn't even exist in a lab yet. Don't fall for the hype. If you always hear one "celebrity" name mentioned on a topic, it is most likely because they want to get money from investors.

@educosta21 5 жыл бұрын

Now we just need a vaper for it

@Havl1s 3 жыл бұрын

Podle přízvuku mluvíte česky. Kde se tyto baterie dají koupit v ČR?

@GWLPowered 3 жыл бұрын

@Jan Havel Dobrý den, přímo na našem eshopu shop.gwl.eu ;)

@zahariburgess3660 3 жыл бұрын

It's a good battery the problem is the energy density

@Joris8942 5 жыл бұрын

"new"? What year is this? 2010?!

@blacktrogen2921 4 жыл бұрын

Lol 🤣🤣🤣

@bestvideos4ever1 4 жыл бұрын

@@blacktrogen2921 in Bulgaria and Poland its very new 😂😂

@joevasquez1776 5 жыл бұрын

55 a piece? Like just one? Or one box with six?

@zisu1634 5 жыл бұрын

one,one cell,not a box of them , to expensive ,isn't it ?

@GilDev2 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah one, but it’s 40 Ah so 92 Wh, not that bad.

@PhysicsViolator 5 жыл бұрын

@@GilDev2 one that barely outputs 2.3 volts lol

@crawfish069 5 жыл бұрын

No self discharge data? This sounds like a super cap.

@kogibankole 2 жыл бұрын

pls can you tell me what those yellow cells are and how to get them? Ive got a dead segway that takes those

@EllinonEnosis 5 жыл бұрын

Man i love this company. They deliver exactly what they promise. Just beware of the german/dutch customs....they dont like competators so they make others lives difficult.

@fidelcatsro6948 5 жыл бұрын

how much does a cell cost?

@fixitdude74 5 жыл бұрын

LiFe batteries are still the best alternative to lithium ion, this tech is still too expensive, give them another couple years to get the costs down

@electricdeckhead3083 5 жыл бұрын

and size?

@ewaldwolk2250 4 жыл бұрын

How is that cheaper ? The same Capacity, (with half the weight), costs the same or less with normal 18650 Lithium Cells

@Hundert1 4 жыл бұрын

@@ewaldwolk2250 Danke vielmals

@joellontoc3231 3 жыл бұрын

I just purchased a 72v 30ah lto pack with charger for $1246.00 today. I think that is a fair price for today.

@richardzan4077 2 жыл бұрын

I have been doing tests on these batteries for 2 years. The problem that these batteries after charging up to 2.8V are quickly discharged automatically. In addition, each cells does not charge correctly. So at the moment of electronic calibration you will lose the total battery voltage. So, after a whole day of calibration, you need to recharge them again. I have batteries of the same company as you. I approach these batteries sold by individual Chinese shops are waste (bad somehow) from a large company - Yinlong. To buy good batteries, you need to apply directly to the manufacturer

@GWLPowered 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, in case of LTO, there's some loss of battery charge after charging... But you need to calculate with a nominal voltage of 2.3 V, not 2.8 V (and you can always add a cell ;)