New CyberTrucks Rusting already!?...

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5 ай бұрын

It looks like the Stainless Steel design does indeed have some real world drawbacks... Let me know your thoughts and if you also plan to have your CyberTruck wrapped right away, Thanks!
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@juannarvaez5476 5 ай бұрын

When I went to welding school I remember my instructor talking about a time when they were to weld on something made of stainless steel. They used the right stainless steel rods, everything went fine. A few days later, their client called and asked why was a part of the weld already rusting stainless steel was used. Turns out, that the wire wheel used to clean up the weld wasn't stainless steel and caused two dissimilar metals to undergo something called galvanic corrosion.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

I see that's very interesting, is that something that happens often? Or is that something that mainly happens when you introduce a foreign/incompatible metal to the welding process?

@Adones09 5 ай бұрын

I thought everyone DETAILED their vehicle, every time they looked at it. If you don't notice a speck of rust before wrapping, you can get a big surprise when you remove the wrap. Make sure all is good, before you do. (I would also recommend wrapping or a PPF)

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

Definitely not everyone lol And yeah that's what I'm worried about. I'll probably have a clear coat done, followed up by a liquid wrap afterwards.

@nanomage 5 ай бұрын

Stainless steel is not rust proof, never has been, it just takes slightly longer to form. A wrap will likely just hide the problem as grime and moisture will still find ways to come into contact with the unprotected metal and you may have more severe corrosion damage when the wrap comes off. Best solution is probably to do what all other car manufacturers do, apply paint and/or a clear coat to protect the bare metal, if you are in love with the brushed metal finish there are matte clear coats available that would seal in the bare metal and also radically reduce the need for constant cleaning recommended in the manual.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

Agreed, the main problem is that Tesla claimed it would be rust/corrosion resistant, which currently seems to not be the case (or at the very least not as resistant as they were leading us to believe). And 100% I plan to get the CyberTruck liquid wrapped. As I believe that would provide the most robust protection against any sort of rust/corrosion forming. And I agree with you on the clear coat aspect. I'm speaking with a few people who specialize in that to see if they think it would be better to do a clear coat and then liquid wrap it, or it that would be redundant/overkill.

@nanomage 5 ай бұрын

@@ZayTson If you do go down the clear coating road just make sure the paint shop that you do business with actually remove all the plastic cladding from the vehicle, thereby allowing the coat to properly cover all the edges. Once the truck is coated liquid wrapping it would just be like doing so with any other consumer vehicle. As for Teslas statements I'm well over their sales pitch language by now, they have a pretty long history of promising one thing and delivering another at this point.

@gbprime2353 5 ай бұрын

Which begs the question... why didn't Tesla use a matte clear coat in the first place? You're paying a lot for this vehicle, taking a shammy cloth to it after every drive shouldn't be a requirement!

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

@@nanomage Okay thanks for the advice, I'll definitely bring that up if I have it done. I had to have the clear coat redone on car's hood and roof, but definitely not the entire vehicle (so I appreciate that). And yeah their track record for promises isn't the best, and TBH that's why our first Tesla is going to be the CyberTruck. I was thinking that they would have had ample resources/bandwidth to rework this sort of issue given the time that they've had since the initial reveal, but here we are...😅

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

@@gbprime2353 I'm actually surprised that they didn't offer that as a possible solution/feature, especially since they announced that they would offer wraps directly from Tesla (I'm only speculating, but I would assume they announced that because they realized that this was an ongoing issue with the CyberTruck prototypes).

@rocsocom3166 5 ай бұрын

They should added clear coat.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

They really should have, or at least have made it a "no-cost" option.

@michaelduke4500 5 ай бұрын

Remember the Delorean rusting?

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

TBH not really, it makes me think that the alloy content is different between the two vehicles.

@michaelduke4500 5 ай бұрын

@@ZayTson They have a great deal of problems with the Delorean rusting. Sold as the, "never rust" car. Makes one wonder......

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

@@michaelduke4500 Is that for the body panels as well or just for the undercarriage? Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought they were known for the body panels being highly resistant to corrosion due to the high chromium content?

@mathewmcgill6266 5 ай бұрын

I always thought that they hired a 6th grader with a ruler to design that damn ugly thing. Now you're telling me they hired a high school sophomore student as a metallurgical engineer?

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

Well if you listen to some of the interviews that have been done, Elon definitely said he took inspiration for the design from his son. So you're not too far on that claim hahaha As for the engineering, it kind of seems like they put so much effort and resources towards the bending/molding of the body structure, that they neglected some of the other finer aspects of the design😅

@jimmahr.4665 5 ай бұрын

Depending on quality of stainless, but it does rust a little bit, no where near like regular metal though. Comes off easy, you get most early on, then it lays off. If you want long term prediction of how this will go talk to DeLoreon owners, those are stainless too, never seen a rusted one. I think this is being blown way out of proportion by attention seeking people. Wired choice for car body, stainless is heavy but hard to dent compared to aluminum.... but heavy.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

I thought of the DeLorean too when the CyberTruck was first announced. Do you think it has anything to do with the specific manufacturer process that Tesla might have used that's causing this to occur right away? Or do you think it might be due to something that was done to the Stainless steel that was used in the DoLorean making it more resistant?

@KC9UDX 5 ай бұрын

Maybe enough people will get upset about this and they can stop salting the roads.

@jazziez6467 5 ай бұрын

you really believe wrapping will solve rust, ok if you say so

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

I'm not hoping it will solve rust, more so act as a preventative measure to delay/mitigate the process some. Do you have any recommendations as an alternative?

@oso_nomada 5 ай бұрын

0:17 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

Yeah you can kind of tell it was edited 😅😅haha😂

@oso_nomada 5 ай бұрын

@@ZayTsonno editing…I was talking about the “driving in the rain”…like that’s a NoNo for a $100k turd 😂

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

@@oso_nomada 🤣🤣

@iambiggus 5 ай бұрын

All stainless steels are not created equal. That's why your inexpensive "stainless" steel BBQ is rusting away out on the patio.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

True enough, but isn't that mainly due to those BBQ grills not actually being made of stainless steel in their entirety? Or do you think it's due to a lower alloy content making them more susceptible to rust and corrosion?

@iambiggus 5 ай бұрын

@ZayTson The second one. You can leave a surgical grade stainless steel scalpel out in the rain for as long as you want, it will never see a spot of rust. That being said, surgical grade stainless steel isn't driven hard through salt and sand and all kinds of corrosive elements. And Cyber Trucks aren't made from SGSS.

@rickitynick4463 5 ай бұрын

Cheap stainless has less chromium. Less chromium means less of a chromium oxide layer protecting the steel itself from oxidizing/rusting.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

@@iambiggus I see that does make sense. Do you think that's something that Tesla would be able to implement later on in updated models/editions of the CyberTruck? Or is it something that's so cost prohibitive, that even with Tesla's economies of scale it wouldn't really be feasible?

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

@@rickitynick4463 Do you think that's by design (due to the engineering requirements needed for their molding/steel bending production process) or due to cost? I would think that if it was a slight increase in cost, it wouldn't be that big of an issue since the price of the truck has gone up so much anyway. However, if it's for manufacturing purposes, that would make more sense.

@Jason-dr6se 5 ай бұрын

That is hilarious. Long live my 2016 aluminum F 150 3.5 No rust except on the control arms which will be replaced with suspension upgrade.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

It is unfortunate...I have a few specialty vehicles in our rental fleet that are 15-20+ years old with no signs of rust at all, so for this to be something that is coming up already for a brand new vehicle is concerning TBH. That said, I still plan to get one to use as a "Marketing Billboard" of sorts for our fleet but I'm hoping they come out with some sort of coating (whether that's aftermarket or other-wise) to resolve or at the very least mitigate the issue for a few years.

@phu5005 5 ай бұрын

If my fridge can rust, why not the truck

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

I think most people who understand the basics of how metal responds to different real world conditions would agree. The problem is that Tesla claimed that it would be rust/corrosion resistant and for it to have just been released and they're already experience issues is the fundamental problem. (TBH I can see if it happened a couple of years later, I think that would adequately justify the "resistant" claim, but for it to only be a matter of weeks is concerning).

@donovanbingham 5 ай бұрын

Deny and deflect. Not our problem. You didn't wash it after driving it. Tesla's response. Come on. If you buy first generation anything it's risky. But this thing is beyond that. I've watched reviews that tout how fun it is to drive. So is a Porsche. But you don't typically hall tools and other items in one. This is a truck with a lot of big promises. aka. If it's too good to be true.... I'm pretty certain some Cyber Truck purchasers would have jumped into investing with Bernie Madoff and then bragged about being part of a by invitation only and exclusive investment group. Only to learn, it's a sham.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

Yeah unfortunately only time will tell how this one turns out (and it's certainly not off to a great start). And as for your statement on Bernie Madoff, that probably has a good amount of truth to it. As while his scheme did affect a lot of people, it was almost exclusively people who thought they were on the "in" that lost the largest portion of their overall wealth.

@tompawlak3482 5 ай бұрын

The stainless steel had some metal particles land on it, with rain those particles will rust. In every story eventually the truth comes out . . . Cybertruck stainless steel is not rusting.

@ZayTson 5 ай бұрын

Just for clarity, are you saying that the stainless steel body panels aren't actually rusting but it's metal particles from the environment that are leaving that corrosive residue? Do you think that after prolonged exposure that would lead to the actual panels themselves to develop rust/corrosion? Also, do you think it would be best for me to apply a clearcoat or liquid wrap to the body panels of the vehicle to prevent or at least mitigate the risk?