NEW Die Lock Rings from LEE Precision (3 new types)

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Sometimes you get so accustomed to things you have a "double take" when they change. That was my reaction when I recently unboxed a LEE Pro 1000 reloading press. I noted several changes with the press, most obvious was the new die lock rings that came with the press. In this article, I'll introduce you to three new styles of LEE die lock rings!
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@johningersoll3931 3 жыл бұрын

They look awesome, but I think they cut a few corners. First, the screws should use either an Allen wrench, or a Torx. Those small Phillips heads can strip easily, especially when you try to really tighten them down. Second, they should have milled a relief slot into the same location as they did on the original breech lock adapter so that the plunger could come back up and lock it in place. With just a couple minor tweaks, they could have made these really great.

@sluggou812beotch 9 ай бұрын

You've become one of my favorite youtubers. I just ordered the Pro 4000 and this is something I was wondering about. THANK YOU!

@billofalltrades1468 3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered a challenger breech lock press 4 dies and these,thanks for all the information you've provided !

@JamesSmith-ue2ow 4 жыл бұрын

Smitty SF-3751 Been learning a lot from you, even at 80 years old. Did not know you had to buy the new press to work with the new lock rings. Keep up the Great Work.

@darryljones6129 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Gavin. Your videos are educational and inspiring.

@corsariosairsoft 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the information, I have just bought my first Lee Presision reloading press. It Is really helpful

@LastCaress7 4 жыл бұрын

these are badass. super simple but i like it alot. adds little bit of coolness with the coloring. hope they have more colors available.

@kenmarsh 4 жыл бұрын

Gavin..... you always have up to date great content. Thanks!

@Ultimatereloader 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken!

@baymeosplit8537 4 жыл бұрын

The lock ring eliminator bushings are different from the older ones, which used to come with a hexagonal screw and accompanying hexagonal wrench. I purchased some of the new ones from Midway and they are just as good. The hexagonal screw has been replaced with a slotted screw, which concerned me at first but I after attaching them to my dies and tightening them, the screw is set and no further adjustments are needed. In short I love theses lock ring eliminators because they allow someone on a single-stage press to quickly change dies without having to constantly readjust them. Well worth the investment!

@douglasmcneil8413 4 жыл бұрын

My LEE press of choice is the Breach Lock hand press. I mostly reload handgun ammo. Thanks for the video.

@psykoklown874 4 жыл бұрын

The sizing die I just bought came with the new ring. It also came in a new style case. Seems Lee has come out with a lot of new goodies.

@pogmarinefps 4 жыл бұрын

That would be amazing! getting in the future!

@ryangunn7638 4 жыл бұрын

These are sweet! Might try a set of these. Love the Hornady lock rings and these look good.

@davidunderwood3605 4 жыл бұрын

Before purchasing a new progressive press I called all the manufactures out there and requested a manual on their presses. This included dillons, hornady, lee and a couple of others. The purpose of this was to study them befor buying. I chose the lee loadmaster for very specific reasons. One of the main one was the ability to reconfigure it to do more than the others without changing it to the point of taking it out of a warranty state. 1st I never deprime or prime on press so this allowed me to move the powder station to the second station on the head, this allows me to put a powder check die in the original powder station for added safety. 2nd I can also set it up to process brass without going thru all the stations, (size cleaned deprimed rifle and pistol brass) and collect it in a seperate bin on the left side of the press. It can be drimed at the same time but as I stated I do this of press ((by hand to feel primerpocket tension) and inspect cases at this time). Also I just don't run dirty brass thru my dies. 3rd I changed out the shell locator hands on the 3rd and 4th stations with ones made with thumb flipper lips so my arthritic fingers could move them or open the up easly to remove a case easly. 4th I designed an on off clutch for their bullet feeder so I did not have to remove parts to disable it while using, this allows me to turn on and off at will, by a simple turn of a knob and allows quiker change out of heads for other calibers. Also it allows me to use ther bullet feed and seat on the same station and not loose the final station thats used for crimp and carbide check die. Easly put back to origanal configuration with no warranty infractions. If you reas this Gavintobe and are interested in this let me know. You will like the mods and find them extreamly usefull and added production and safety.

@randlecarr3257 3 жыл бұрын

This looks fantastic

@briansearles4473 2 жыл бұрын

I just got my first set of Lee Dies in 35 Rem. Have always used RCBS dies with out any problems. I have no problem with the old style lock rings that came with my new Lee Dies, but they haven't stood the test of time yet.

@44240xtp 3 жыл бұрын

I need to check them out. With the notches cut in the lock rings, you can make a die float in the head of the press with a roll pin . I need to experiment with that and floating shell holder.

@commanderosis435 4 жыл бұрын

Im gonna stick to my hornady steel Sure-LOC lock rings. Theyre the best hands down.

@lucab9593 4 жыл бұрын

Do they work on a Dillon press?

@commanderosis435 4 жыл бұрын

@@lucab9593 absolutely. All they do is lock the dies in place. The benefit it's they don't crush the threads of the die line the rcbs and better quality than the lees

@MarkBrown5150 4 жыл бұрын

@@lucab9593 NO! Not without machining an entirely new tool head, which could be done.

@commanderosis435 4 жыл бұрын

@@MarkBrown5150 I have them on my Dillon's right now. What are you talking about?

@rugerfarming2529 4 жыл бұрын

Yeap. Hornady Lock n Load system looks to way better. I argee with you Commander Osis

@chevy6299 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!! Lee Rocks!!!!

@Dv087 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks did not know these existed.

@MRPINKWSPHX602 4 жыл бұрын

After setting up the die’s with the breech lock bushings i wish i could fit them back into the original case for safe storage. Maybe one day LEE could mold them for this.

@jmkhenka 4 жыл бұрын

atleast they fit in standard cases ie RCBS/Hornady.

@markgamblin1366 4 жыл бұрын

When will a video on the new Lee APP be released? I'm curious about how it works! Thanks!

@StumpkillerCP Жыл бұрын

The laterst versions have a hex socket screw (Allen wrench). Much preferred.

@rugerfarming2529 4 жыл бұрын

almost the exact same as Hornady Lock n Load system. about time.

@GrizzAxxemann 4 жыл бұрын

I swapped all my Lee lock rings to Lyman rings years ago. Only reason I could see myself changing is if I finally break a press and have to goto a breech-lock or LnL setup.

@Kito66j1 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Gavi. Would you make a video on the Lee APP press? It is an excellent tool for prepping brass, resize lead bullets, debulge, ext..... Awesome press.

@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын

I got a set of those LEE lock rings over a month ago. Wanted a lower profile locking nut than the old 1 1/8" Dillon lock nuts. Short story >> After a month I'm done with them. They don't save that much room on the 550 head plus they have a standard slot screw to lock it in place. Solution>> I'm in the process of switching ALL die nuts to the newer 1" Dillon lock nuts.

@robertbarton7470 3 жыл бұрын

Question. I seem to be having an issue indexing the splines to the push down button. I can get the button to pop up but the lock ring eliminator moves 1/8 inch either direction, but still stays in place. Is this normal slop to be expected ?

@randalloc 4 жыл бұрын

Gavin,, do these work the same in a RCBC rockchucker and how about the Forster.. the rings fit the same with the height or is this Lee specific? thanks

@tonybryant7846 3 жыл бұрын

can you do a video on the differences between the Lyman Gen6 and the Franklin Arsenal Inteladropper electric Powder measuring devices? kind of a side by side comparison ?

@The10thManRules 4 жыл бұрын

I'm selling my old hex wrench for (5) rolls of 2-ply, unscented, toilet paper.

@pacman10182 4 жыл бұрын

all I've got is scented

@MarkBrown5150 4 жыл бұрын

Why? (Serious question)

@The10thManRules 4 жыл бұрын

@@MarkBrown5150 Coronajokes.

@lpeter5781 4 жыл бұрын

Is scented TP a real thing? Never heard of it!

@jp2246 4 жыл бұрын

@@lpeter5781 oh yes, alI I could find a couple of weeks ago was some annoying lavender scented TP, immediately gave it to the wife

@survivalaustralia01 3 жыл бұрын

whats the thread on the outer bushing insert 1 1/4 ?

@TheRotorhound 4 жыл бұрын

Lee always said that their original lock ring only needed to be finger tight but we all know that they still loosened up. Now they finally give you a wrench which they always needed anyhow.

@trevorkolmatycki4042 2 жыл бұрын

I recommend putting the rubber O-ring on top. Then you get more precision because you are not compressing the rubber different amounts each time you install the die. Very hard to fully compress the rubber with the little cheesy plastic tool resulting in ⅛-¼ turn variance.

@traviscross179 4 жыл бұрын

I don't like them myself considering that all of my older sets have the original ones and that they don't come with the tool to tighten them down. Pipe wrench works decent enough until I can replace them

@tylerpetrella5573 4 жыл бұрын

About time lee comes out with stuff hornady has had for years

@michaelc4060 2 жыл бұрын

Yes but lee is a far less expensive brand. You either cut features or quality. Can't have it all for less. Lee is becoming more modular. Able to start basic then add features. I likely never would have started reloading 100 dollar dies but 30. Ok. But now I have 4 presses, (two table mounted, 1 shotgun, one portable) and several hundred in dies. It became another hobby. 🙂 I just dont shoot enough to justify the cost of the other guys and make hunting ammo only. For myself target shooting is only to sight in and practice to hunt. For that basic features are just fine. Now in 22 under the global oligarchy I'm going to have to make a primer press it seems. 😭

@mpccenturion 4 жыл бұрын

I vote for switching to Torx. 4 rifles - same caliber - 4 differing head-space requirements - A pile of labelled cases, for case length - and 4 sets of finished bullet with crimps.-- of all the bullets I every stuffed in a case. A pail of ammo - once or lightly fired brass. It fits all the guns. It's the pray and pass the ammo box. The rest gets divided into 40 to 100 cases - all from what rifle and chamber - and stays from that point to destruction. I think my best case was 27 reloads with 95% loads. As of today - I have hot day confirmation. Dec Next - will give cold weather data - Even tried some guaranteed Were-Wolf projectiles. They are a third less heavy that Current - and the smack stuff real good.

@pistoblack1091 4 жыл бұрын

Ola Gavintoobe, I hope you are very well, I wanted to tell you that I really like this program but I would like you to put subtitles on what you are talking about, there are many who watch the program but do not understand what they are talking about because they speak another language , thank you very much and a cordial greeting from cali norte, thank you very much for such a great contribution.

@paulseeley7913 4 ай бұрын

the second thing i throw out when i get a set of Lee dies is the lock ring. always hated the dang o ring retention system. First thing i throw out is the dipper. The split ring type would be a huge step in the right direction!

@orkboy59 4 жыл бұрын

I would probably replace the phillips head screws with allen head screws.

@jmkhenka 4 жыл бұрын

mine came with allen heads weird enough.

@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын

Mine came with ye olde standard slotted head screws.

@leefeatherston7014 4 жыл бұрын

ok I'm gonna say that very well colorful red white and blue thanks 👏👍😎

@8mmmauser896 4 жыл бұрын

Do a review on the lee app press

@taylorfritz3801 4 жыл бұрын

Do they fit in the co ax press?

@EagleEyeShooting 4 жыл бұрын

I love these new breech locks. I just swapped out the Hornady quick change kit with Lee's. Getting fantastic results!

@Ultimatereloader 4 жыл бұрын

Good deal Kenny!

@rodlynn5776 3 жыл бұрын

An AR15 buffer tube wrench worked with these. Pretty sure it was a cheap freebie that came with one of my stocks.

@tonybryant7846 2 жыл бұрын

do you use lock rings and the bushings or just the bushings doing the same thing? new reloader here just making sure

@craigb24680 4 жыл бұрын

I bought a pack of the breech lock spline and they feel as if made of paper, Super light and just don't give a good feeling of long term stability. Really unhappy with first impression. I immediately shelved them and found the older style breech lock rings

@rogervanvarick3499 Жыл бұрын

Does this work with Lyman turit press

@carpenterpilot487 2 жыл бұрын

IT dose not intergrade with other presses only for Lees press. Damm the bad luck! I like Lees Ideal what they did. I wish they all get on the same page and it standard with all presses.

@404Droid 4 жыл бұрын

To anyone is wp 405 smokeless rifle powder any good for 223 556 my first powder buy

@MarkBrown5150 4 жыл бұрын

I have always liked these "lock ring eliminators" style of die change. However, my presses include the Dillon RL550B as my main battle press with an RCBS Rock Chucker for use as a single-stage press for a variety of operations such as swage, sizing or other one stage activity while I have a 3rd press (do not recall the name) used exclusively for either decap or bullet pulling. On the Dillion Toolhead, we are limited to only the standard 7/8 - 14 tread configuration. Now, it would be great for someone to come with a tool head for Dillon presses that would accommodate the Lock Ring Eliminator from Lee or the comparable system available from Hornady. If on were a proficient machinist one might be so inclined to create just such a tool head. If this idea works out, I wish to copyright the idea.......JK

@mikesandoval5296 4 жыл бұрын

The earlier ultimate lock rings would work on a lee turret press .

@ozjado 3 жыл бұрын

Here are great but why did lee opt for a Phillips head screw for the locking screw? Hex head would be much better

@dansharp8042 2 жыл бұрын

What about the older classic press ????

@warpedweirdo 4 жыл бұрын

I don't get it. Why do these lock rings require a special wrench to tighten? What is up with that Phillips head screw?

@RobActiveShooterEngh 4 жыл бұрын

a phillips head? that really should have been an Allen key or Torx

@jmkhenka 4 жыл бұрын

the ones i have, black alu (lock ring eliminators, the big ones) came with allens.

@everythingphil9376 4 жыл бұрын

The originals did. These are a step back.

@RobActiveShooterEngh 4 жыл бұрын

@@everythingphil9376 weird, why would anyone go back to phillips?

@everythingphil9376 4 жыл бұрын

@@RobActiveShooterEngh Im guessing Lee is cost cutting with these aluminum versions and they're trying to make them look "cool".

@RobActiveShooterEngh 4 жыл бұрын

@@everythingphil9376 so phillips head is cool now? Guess I need a new tattoo or haircut?

@popeye-wc2jo 2 жыл бұрын

I am curios why you would not show how to use these in a RCBS Rock chucker. I guess now on the hunt for information not shown in your video.

@krod2162 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand the O-ring Lee likes to use cuz it seems like you get a little variance when you tighten it down I like the Hornady lock rings they go right to the same spot every time

@lucab9593 4 жыл бұрын

Gavin, very interesting as usual but could you please clarify which of these is available for a Dillon press? I am interested in something quicker, but I use a 650 to reload. Thank you

@ElmerFuddGun 4 жыл бұрын

I'm confused... you have a 650 but need something quicker to change dies? Why not just change out the whole tool head with all the dies at once? What am I missing?

@comodice905 2 жыл бұрын

Just get a press for each dokie

@robertbrandywine 4 жыл бұрын

Lee needs to make die boxes that will hold dies that have the Breech Lock Quick Change Bushings installed. Once you put those on your boxes won't close.

@avinanrey 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Brandywine I bough new 6.5 creedmoor ultimate die set couple of weeks back and box closes properly with bushings installed.

@robertbrandywine 4 жыл бұрын

@@avinanrey Would you mind listing the dimensions of the box?

@avinanrey 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Brandywine sorry for the late reply. It is about 5.400’ x 4.400’. Size looks about the same but this one has extra deep grooves for bushings as well. I hope I’m not missing anything so sharing the photos: share.icloud.com/photos/0wRrEBi5Jfz5nRpEYESeCsdmQ

@TTiger86268 4 жыл бұрын

For the $ , Can't be beat.

@MrPeterson74 4 жыл бұрын

Phillips? Should have been hex head. I would want to replace that immediately.

@nolesen5699 4 жыл бұрын

are you going to do the lee APP press? will i understand you do not cast bullets, "a hobby you should get into" it dose a very good job of bulk reszie / decapingg brass.

@Ultimatereloader 4 жыл бұрын

I'm looking into it! :)

@rudolflehnert9722 Жыл бұрын

the Forster rings have the split design since....EVER. so what's the point??

@danemarley2866 4 жыл бұрын

I like the new lock ring but I would like to see Lee stop using a Phillips Head screw and go with something like a Torx.

@joe74ta1 4 жыл бұрын

WHY?

@jaysmotogp 4 жыл бұрын

Gavin, been watching and enjoying all your vids for years. This is the last however. You are NEVER critical in any way of anything you have ever reviewed. Everything you demonstrate is according to you great. Some that ive tried are, and some downright are not. I know, I’ve bought (too many) of those reviewed items you’ve reviewed. These rings are one. Already had some before your vid and there are two others brands that are much, much better. Anyways, all i see is you giving continuous good reviews in order to get a continuous supply of reloading goodies from the manufacturers. With all due respect Gavin, goodbye and good shooting

@Ultimatereloader 4 жыл бұрын

Jay- I'm sorry that you feel that way. Thank you for being a viewer all these years. I do my best to provide viewers with the information they need to make their own purchasing decisions. In my recent reviews (more in-depth ones) I've started to add "PROS and CONS" (see my recent in-depth press reviews) and I do indeed point out issues and problems when I see them (see the tracking inaccuracy I reported when I reviewed the Monstrum scope for example). I did not see any issues with these lock rings in the short time that I've been using them. You mentioned you don't like them, but you didn't say what about them you don't like- please share specifics.

@everythingphil9376 4 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of the new versions. The tiny Philips screws are weak compared to the original hex screws and there's no specific notch on the spline rings which engages the quick release button on the press.

@TheFlyingPlectrum 2 жыл бұрын

Knurl. Spline. Two different things.

@3dtexan890 2 жыл бұрын

The Phillips screw is a disappointment. Why not go with an Allen screw? I guess I can change them out. lol. Just sayin'..

@farmhome904 3 жыл бұрын

Me am backwards neanderthal... Not need fancy new lock rings when old ones have always worked fine.

@11C1P 3 жыл бұрын

I like the lock rings but that wrench is a joke.

@EE-eg2bp 3 жыл бұрын

Fuck everything about those splined lock rings. They suck very badly with that crappy wrench. The splined bushings are pretty decent though.

@fkrr5 4 жыл бұрын

I hate the new lock ring design, the new 4 dye sets comes with these lock rings but no wrench.

@jeremiahdillard9201 7 ай бұрын

ugh, now you need a specialized wrench...

@mrcutt215 Жыл бұрын

The ultimate and eliminators are nice but the screw stinks they need a hex head

@jeff1176 2 ай бұрын

So we aren't talking about how worthless the crappy wrench is?

@comodice905 2 жыл бұрын

Why is 40 cal such a bulge case need bulge buster small base dies real pain in the 14th

@RobinRobertsesq 4 жыл бұрын

Philips? Fail

@texpatriot8462 4 жыл бұрын

I hate Lee’s old lock rings.

@billwilson5418 6 ай бұрын

It would be nice if manufacturers (reloading tools or tools in general, tool boxes especially) would stop using gay ass colors for everything. Would black, gray, FDE, OD green, khaki, dark green, etc be that hard? My shelf full of red and green Lee die boxes looks like a Christmas pride parade lol.

@BigBosley 6 ай бұрын

I was shopping for Milwaukee packouts in Mexico where they come in black instead of the obnoxious red. Don't get me started on the reloading world. I like the Dillon blue, RCBS green, MEC black and that's about it. The rest look like a child went on a crack fueled binge with a box of fluorescent spray paint. WTF??