Hello, THat is a reasonable clarification, although why the heating, when installed, did not include those rooms? My personal preference for occasional space heating is a fan heater, particularly if there is only one or two people as it can be directed where needed and is very quick to provide warmth. Electricity, in general, is the least economical form of heating.

I A Reid It was still a loft when the heating would have been installed and the porch was only built last month. Fan heaters are a good solution for instant heat but not great for a bedroom and probably not as safe for little fingers being poked in. 😄

@@TheRestorationCouple Very true, I was not aware that it was being used as a bedroom.

The Restoration Couple If only the UK had just 2/3 more power stations the UK could cope with this changing demand. Not many people know this, I’m an ex smart meter guy, in various meetings it can up everytime. The UK is borrowing electric from France, and the price is massive to us in the UK. One of the big reasons of these Smart Meters so the electric companies can monitor what everyone is using. Great video also, well explained and patient 👍🏻

@@stuartsinclair6269 We will need more than two or three powr stations if the demand increases to meet electric vehicles and increased electrical heating load. The French interconnector was operational when I did my apprenticeship with the CEGB in the sixties. It's original idea was that as British and French maximum demands were at different times, it would be more efficient to couple the two grids with an interconnector. Our government is more and more relying on interconncectors to supplement our production, a retrograde step in my view. As our and continental grids get less and less secure due to wind generation it is likely to end in tears in the future.

What about the ones filled with fluid?

What make? I can't find any like that

I've got 2 and would recommend them very highly.

theoneis101 1kw is nothing, judging on most rads are 2/3kw in gas terms. Doing around 8/9 rads all electric, I’m wondering what the electric bill will be. Interesting stuff👍🏻

Stuart Sinclair it keeps the living room at 21 degrees and also when it’s off the whole house feels colder. 3 bedroom house but small

Same here, great system, running 12 zones too.

100% Works brilliantly in my setting with some rooms rarely used etc.

Had the Hunny well system for years fantastic system

Certainly wouldnt call this a review. As much as i like tim and this channel, he has been given these rads to produce a positive video.

Let’s face it. Modern stuff from reputable company will work fine.

I think you will have abig surprise. With electricity prices as they are and it's ceratin they will rise even further with government's push for renwable generation. Th elast source of energy I would chose is electricity.

Resistive electric heating will always be the most expensive type of heating.

Direct electric heating can cost THREE times that of mains gas.

@@iareid8255 if you add up the real cost of gas central heating then I think you will get a surprise.

@@metallitech The big unknown is the cost of electricity. It's bad enough now but it will get more expensive unless the government cancels it's de carbonisation programme, it's a recipe for unreliability and high cost. It's long been accepted that electrical heating is the most expensive overall.

I was wondering the exact same thing

There is a guide on the product pages. The grey ones are 1000w but porch is slightly more. Probably best to go a little bigger as the temperature control will regulate it down anyway I guess.

They do in those well insulated rooms, not sure one would manage alone in the main old house rooms.

They’re so much cheaper than storage heaters if he has them! We changed over to a Terma thermostat controlled system and we only pay £25 extra to heat our large 2 bed flat

@@samgriffith3528 yes he currently has storage heaters so this is excellent news thanks..👍👍

We had radiant ceiling heating system, wonderful consistent heat, but uses a lot of energy. Greatly reduced elect bill by switching to mini-split.

MARK FINN Why would you want glowing neon in a bedroom though? Even a tiny light source can be irritating when you're trying to sleep.

Why ? Lol, nice red light glowing away while trying to sleep.....great 😂😂😂

I’m in the same situation with no mains gas connection, just trying to do some research if it’s feasible to go fully electric heating Still not sure just get a gas connection or not. Electric is definitely more expensive per kWh. I was thinking along the lines of going Green and getting solar and battery to reduce the cost in the long term. But initial investment is quite high and I think the high current draw when all your heaters are on during cold days may overload the solar system

Electric is 4 X as expensive per kW compared to gas,so have a think.

Good spot! 🙄

@@TheRestorationCouple Been there done that, I do think a sponsor should give you a nice 360 degree 12 line green laser level to try out.

Don’t use them enough to give a full review but the Bluetooth is only really used to set up timings and temps. Not designed to turn them on and off from around the house.

@@TheRestorationCouple Thanks!

in September 2022, the costs above would be very desirable.

Aldi occasionally have oil filled radiators. Easy Home, 2kw. £15 here in UK. About $12. We use one in our static caravan (trailer) bedroom. Excellent. Heats area 12x13ft on low setting.

I’m having this same problem, did you find a solution?

I’m having the same problem. Been installed since April, and had nothing but problems with them!

Yep, same. Just installed and on max and I can still hold the bars (barely waem).

Good news, having messed about with a number of these radiators I have finally cracked the cause of the problems of poor heat up, lack of fluid. Two of my rads were low and so were the replacements. I’ve found out that filling them and getting most of the air out is tricky due to the design. Here’s the method- from the element hole fill with propylene glycol till it’s near the top, then tilt the rad over so that fill hole raises upward, radiator is now pivoting on the diagonal opposite corner and air should escape. Tilt the radiator back down as before and level should have dropped, now fill again and repeat. Once the level seems to remain stable, put the cap back on, then hold the radiator flat like a stretcher with the oval bars facing up. What you are trying to do at this stage is get air that may be trapped in the round tubes into the bars. Now be careful when tilting the rad back up, lift the side where you have been filling from up first so any air in the bars goes into the fill tube, then put on it’s side for a repeat of the initial fill steps as above. You are supposed to leave a small expansion gap at the top but from my experience it’s so hard to get all the air out of the rad anyway so 2cm from top will do. Now fit the element, u should have to tilt the rad to stop fluid coming out as idiotman in the main video above realised, that way u know it’s full. Please note u have to put element into the port as labelled otherwise the temp sensing rod is not in right orientation required by manufacturer. - let me know how you get on, I have to say while customer service won’t give you this method they are responsive and easy to work with, they also refunded my glycol purchase. From what I can tell, the key to these rads is you have to have fluid in the top round bar to allow circulation, otherwise you get the halfway warm results we’ve all seen.

A lot of rads have a baffle on the inlet side to force the water upwards and impede the flow of water straight through the bottom

Not sure I’m afraid. I believe so.

Will cost a bundle in bills. Extra 600 a year minimum

No, these have to be hardwired legally

Just column or towel radiators. New video coming out soon.

@@TheRestorationCouple Thanks

Was done at same time as other bits that needed signing off by BC.

Simon Clark period property- these are more in keeping perhaps? A modern take on the Victorian cast iron type.

Not used them but have plans to try them In a cabin build this winter. 👍

i like them too, but they really eat elect, like his install will too.

Depends on the heating demand of the house but yes could well be an option. That’s why we have used it here as they are occasional use rooms.

Yes providing they are wired correctly and in the correct zone, I.e far enough away from Bath, etc. There are towel radiators too I think.

Not a chance of that happening, who do u think is paying for all the wind farms and other renewables n goveenment grant free boiler n cav wall grants. We are paying for it, no such thing as a free meal.

Given that a lot fo people are going for solar/wind power, or fitting power walls like the Tesla one, getting free/cheap electric will make them cheaper than gas, which is not a replenishable resource. Getting the powerwall is even better when owning your own home, since most people are switching to EVs then just charge the car and heat the house of that, charge the wall on offpeak rates if you don't have solar, I just wish all these were a thing when I grew up, and they could've been if it wasn't for lazy and greedy companies.

Will4May The typical domestic property simply does not have sufficient roof space for enough solar to run electric heat, especially in winter when the sun is low and days are short but the heating load is at its maximum. We can use anything from 120 to 150 kWh of gas per day in the winter heating our fairly modest home- that's many times higher than the output of a typical domestic solar array in winter. Even if you could produce enough power during short daylight hours, you would need a vast battery to store sufficient power to run the heating through the evening and until the panels start generating again the next day.

@@spencerwilton5831 Completely agree with you . just when you need the heating the most is the time of year when your solar is producing next to nothing. The gas providers are starting to blend hydrogen into the the gas supply so it isn't quite the Devil it once was, with plans to increase the percentage (rumoured to be 100%) eventually. Moving forward, electric heating wont add any value to your property. most prospective buyers will see it as a disadvantage and something needing to be remedied. They will look at the bottom line- your energy bill.

Gareth Hughes I think the truth is actually that most people are actually unaware of wind power rather than ignoring it. On a domestic level wind power doesn't make sense, small scale turbines on people's roofs would be an eyesore and produce insignificant amounts of power. However large scale turbines, particularly the vast, offshore ones make perfect sense in many places and indeed provide a significant and growing portion of the UK's power requirements. It's quite clear that in the not too distant future all new homes will be electric only, likely heated by a heat pump and, one would hope - much better insulated than properties being built today. How we will deal with the issue of older homes remains to be seen- we would need several times the current generating capacity if we were to eliminate gas, and I can't see hydrogen making a significant contribution simply because of the economies of producing it from anything other than fossil fuels, which largely defeats the object.

No these are just Bluetooth. The idea is more to allow you to transfer your saved schedule from app rather than constant control. Well that’s how I saw it, if your close enough for Bluetooth to control it, you’re being lazy! 😂

No they are usually correctly filled I think. I imagine there needs to be some room for expansion anyway.

Gary Wright I'd be concerned about expansion of water in a sealed radiator.

Why did he choose electric, cause he was sent it 🤣

Yep, just my poor mans stud finder!

Electric rads really only make sense in a very well insulated property. But I guess there are other cost/benefits that could make them doable.

But the electonic control allows them to be on for only an hour or two per day instead of being on for sixteen hours with the rest of the central heating. So the power costs four times as much but it's on for a tenth of the time so overall it costs two and a half times less.

@@petehiggins33 my GCH rads have thermostats so once the room is at temperature they switch off.

@@JohnnyMotel99 Which means that they run at some duty cycle all day keeping the room warm when there's nobody in them, we're talking about bedrooms here.

number 33 A vary basic timer and zone valve would completely solve that problem though.

Three times the price

@@greggrimer1428 but no occasional boiler costs, repairs, installation of new, etc. Gas fossil fuels not good for environment, and prices of gas currently going up, UK govt law that new build houses don't use gas...