New Enve Fray vs Tour of Flanders Cobbles! First Ride Review

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Enve has added the new Fray endurance road bike to its range and I’ve been riding it for a couple of weeks, including the 160m Tour of Flanders sportive in Belgium. Buckle in for my first ride impressions and all the main details on this new bike from the US company.
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Content
0:00 Intro
00:38 What sort of bike is it?
1:07 Is it the bike for me?
2:03 Tyre clearance
2:35 Cool features
3:35 Geometry
4:28 Ride impressions
7:58 Compared to Melee?
9:10 Price
9:48 Better than a race bike for most people?
11:38 First impressions verdict
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@kestralrider313 4 күн бұрын

I ordered my Fray in Venom a few days ago; I can't wait to see it built up. Yeah, its more than I ever wanted to spend on a bike, but it's the closest match to the perfect bike than anything out there, period. If I can enjoy it for 10 years, it will be a great investment. I'm hoping the downtube storage, tire clearance and higher stack will help it age well against future bike offerings. I do think ENVE has correctly predicted the features most of us retired racers and long ride smashers want to ride as our "first choice bike" and it's sure to be copied and offered at more affordable prices by others in the next 5 years. I couldn't afford it now, but I hope to run two wheelsets to get two bikes for one, SES 4.5s/29mm for mostly tarmac rides and SES 3.4s/38mm for my dirtier rides.

@3TZZZ Ай бұрын

Nice bike. But the price of the frameset alone is astronomical. …A more affordable yet equally capable alternative is the Cervelo Aspero gravel race bike with GRX groupset, the complete bike is only 4,400GBP. Aspero stack height is in between Enve Melee and Fray with a slightly longer wheelbase, same tyre clearance. The Cervelo Aspero is an amazing all-road bike effectively in the same category as Fray, for less than half the price of the Fray frameset.

@TheChindoboi Ай бұрын

This bike... To me just shows how good the giant defy really is. Almost enve fray performance at a much lower cost!

@gabrieljohannson6777 Ай бұрын

Agree.

@gerlachsieders4578 Ай бұрын

I agree with you in the slammed stem departement, I ride a Secan 54T with the taller headtube, but with a slammed stem, it looks awesome! By the by, I am still looking forward to the update on your Secan, no pressure there David ;-)

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

coming soon, honestly ;)

@peterdougherty3863 Ай бұрын

How does it compare to the Open MI.ND you tested last year? Seems like a similar proposition to me.

@ginomordocco4710 Ай бұрын

Once you build this bike up you'll have spent enough to buy a road bike and gravel specific bike from Giant, Canyon,etc.

@bitgeist21 Ай бұрын

Amazing video! I've ridden the Liege sportive but never Flanders. Love the bike as well!

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

LBL is a great ride, lovely around the Ardennes isn't it - You HAVE to ride Flanders next year!

@franciscotan Ай бұрын

I was suppose to get the defy advance sl 0. Would you recommend this over that? Isn’t the defy lighter than this one? Thanks

@seanmccuen6970 Ай бұрын

I like it, virtually everything about it. I'd much rather ride something like this than a race bike, any day. these new endurance bikes are genuine quiver killers which is one of the best things you can say about a bike.

@hansendy3708 Ай бұрын

How does it compare to the Synapse?

@stevekelly6544 Ай бұрын

Very nice offering- love the new design trends in modern endurance bikes.

@glennoc8585 Ай бұрын

Looks like a relaxed geo gravel bike with 2x to me. Nice lookng bike

@andras.89 Ай бұрын

no mudgard/fender options?

@melsgamingvideos7838 Ай бұрын

How does it compare to the BMC roadmachine? Both are positioned as endurance, will fit 38/400mm tyres, top-tube bosses, and have in-frame storage

@eprohoda Ай бұрын

David! this is gorgeous ~👌

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

Agree!

@mikehickman08 Ай бұрын

Got my order in! Can’t wait 🎉

@glennicol1361 Ай бұрын

I am curious if it is faster than a Merida Silex...

@nellyx1x493 Ай бұрын

Back in the day, this sort of thing was known as an 'old-man-comfort-bike'... just the thing for most riders these days then.

@garysladek9110 Ай бұрын

Looks great. Size 58 would be perfect for me. I think at that price, I would feel the need to baby it. My view of bikes has changed. Now, I believe buying middle quality, price, etc. And ride the hell out of it.

@PedroPrego Ай бұрын

I'd classify this as simply perfect if that cables were not hidden inside the stem. I'd love this bike a do-it-all, including gravel. But my position in the road and on gravel changes. I want a more relaxed position in gravel. For that I'd need to swap stems. With the cabbles inside the stem... no luck doing that. Thus... it is no longer a do-it-all. It is a single purpose bike again

@evandannhardt6022 Ай бұрын

Getting your hands on the bmc roadmachine any time soon?

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

Might be taking it for a spin at Sea Otter next week - would hope on a longer ride but we'll see what they let me do

@tsparre Ай бұрын

@@davidarthur Would be very intrested in your take on the new BMC Roadmachine 01 vs the Enve Fray vs The Giant Defy SL - whats the weight of the Fray build you tested? (Ah found it below 7,8 with Ultegra) Should be possible to go very close to 7 kg with a SRAM axs 1x12 build.

@VendetaBrown Ай бұрын

Did you weigh it with ultegra?

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

I did - 7.8kg

@BikeLife154 Ай бұрын

The frame set only in Korea is 8,500,000KRW 😂 These companies are trying to outdo each other on how much they can charge! Specialized drive me crazy with their prices, but I could buy an SL8 Expert model (yes, I know it’s not an endurance bike, 7,900,000KRW) with an electronic group set and carbon wheels and still have money left over to buy a high end helmet and some clothing. Roubaix pro is 7,920,000KRW, again with money left over! I know I’m not their target audience, but they’re still dreaming! Some people have money to burn, I guess.

@KoenMiseur Ай бұрын

This would've been perfect as my next winterroad/gravelbike, but then I looked at the price!

@Bandyrobs1 Ай бұрын

Love that. Wish I had the money! :(

@EmmanuelNataf Ай бұрын

I don't understand why you're not testing the Time ADHX / ADHX 45 - likely as good if not better?

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

I was speaking to them earlier this year about testing one and there was interest, but nothing has shown up. Let me check in with them. I am keen!!

@Camerooony11 Ай бұрын

@@davidarthur I'd love to see you review the ADHX and compare it to the Giant Defy and ENVE Fray. It seems like a top contender for an all-road bike that can do gravel.

@EmmanuelNataf Ай бұрын

@@davidarthur Sweet, it should be worth it!

@thinkteam Ай бұрын

I bought an ADHX in December which I'm using as an all-road with 32mm GP5000S and spec wise it's almost identical to this. It's a great compromise - I love the bike.

@hotpantaloons Ай бұрын

@@davidarthur I'd also love to see this. An ADHX has been on my list as an endurance replacement for my road bike for a while now. I'd love to see how the ENVE stacks up against the ADHX and even a Pinarello X.

@ChrisSpriggs-rj2ys Ай бұрын

Top end all rounder 😊

@DerRofflers Ай бұрын

Riding in Flanders? I sleep Riding in the Cotswolds? HELL YEAH

@ianfurqueron5850 Ай бұрын

Not cheap, but I do like a lot of the features for how I usually ride.

@WhaJMc Ай бұрын

It looks fantastic but the frame alone costs more than my mid-spec'd Roubaix.

@M3GRSD Ай бұрын

I know this is a personal opinion, but I occasionally have to ride on cobbles in D.C. around Georgetown and parts of Northern VA. I f***ing hate it. Hate isn't even strong enough a word. I personally could never ride an event that is predominantly cobbles. My head would explode in anger, lol

@ChrisLyman100 Ай бұрын

Ready for 220k more on it next week??

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

You bet! No cobbles I hope though!

@ChrisLyman100 Ай бұрын

@@davidarthur I don't believe any have been added, but there will be artichoke bread

@christianhandel9361 Ай бұрын

First models arrived in central Europe. 5995€ omg.

@JV-du9yw Ай бұрын

The price of the frameset is overkill, definitely a huge let down.

@jonpoon3896 Ай бұрын

Were we surprised though?

@JV-du9yw Ай бұрын

@@jonpoon3896 given it is a not a well known frame builder, yes! Would you buy it?

@ariffau Ай бұрын

Mate, it’s an Enve 😅 they aren’t even trying to market to people like us.

@cools5226 Ай бұрын

@@JV-du9yw just say you’re broke dog

@JV-du9yw Ай бұрын

@@cools5226 I have trek Madone SLR I race for a continental team. I dont think that a good bike for that price, you might as well buy canyon, that's almost a whole bike.

@KevinMatassa Ай бұрын

Slammed stem sure, but that head tube height is not pretty either. There's a trade-off.

@markrskinner Ай бұрын

Perfect bike for me. Just need to sell my car.

@neilrobinson7965 Ай бұрын

I like it, but I just can’t get past the price of these modern bikes. There is no rational justification for it. It’s becoming like high end hi-fi

@marvinsmall5002 Ай бұрын

Tyre widths are getting out of hand.

@andrewbrewin5418 Ай бұрын

Would never buy Enve kit here in the UK as the prices are ridiculously over inflated compare to the US. I mean why would you pay £3,350 for SES 4.5 wheels when they are €2,850 in the US. Thats without taking the exchange rate into account.

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

Yup we get lots of extra duty charges in the uk thanks to a certain event a few years ago, lucky us 🤯

@FlourescentPotato Ай бұрын

Looks honestly identical to any other race bike.

@jonpoon3896 Ай бұрын

No matter the price, an endurance/all road bike needs to have a round seatpost for me

@ivandominguez7249 Ай бұрын

Amazing bike just for rich people. Maybe you can do reviews of more affordable new chinese brands like Winspace,Yoeleo, Seka, Ican,Tavelo, etc...Some famous brands have problems right now for cause of low sales and stupid huge prices.

@123oner2 Ай бұрын

Price is a piss take

@ariffau Ай бұрын

Still no proprietary frame bag system as seen on the Canyon Grail and Trek Checkpoint makes not buying this easier!

@ariffau Ай бұрын

Credit where credit is due, I applaud their effort for the downtube storage and the tool roll. Mounts for bento box would work great if they don’t rub against your knees as you go out of the saddle.