I don't think its 100% their Fault, it could be caused by an increased disposition for Irritability cause by Deficiencies. also, meat eater diet can be devoid in Flavonoids and other health promoting compounds only found in plants. #GoingHunting

​@@marc31415uhh most meat eaters are omnivores and eat plants as well.

@@odhinnswrath Is that why so many Vikings these days are obese? Is it because they are eating too many plants or too many flesh burgers?

@@odhinnswrath Thank God someone doesn’t “belong to a tribe” & talks sense!

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SOOO true 😂

I still remember when the Slingshot channel tested an allegedly knife-resistant vest with a homemade dagger (so nobody could imitate him at home) and the Daily Mail wrote an article titled something like: An angry German teaches terrorists how to kill police officers. And they linked this poor guy testing fraudulent Amazon products with a murdered English police officer. Who wore a vest (not iprorted from amazon) but got killed because the attackers were stabbing the officer's uncovered skin. So it was the opposite of the video in every possible way.

Yeah, their typos are terrible. They keep spelling "fail" with an "m" at the start. 😂

In their article they dont even talk about what they say in the title, and even say it's healthy to eat a plant based diet (or bad because it's high in calcium and potassium lmao)

The Daily Mail is well known as a very poor quality newspaper here in the UK.

This is 100% truth.

I tend to believe with the laundry list of industrially processed ingredients, the vegan meat is as bad or worse than animal meat.

Yet there is not one vegan food you could survive on and yet you could survive on eggs and animals.

@@GregariousAntithesis I’ve been a vegan for over a decade now, RAW VEGAN for six. I think I’m alive.

@@amy3458 so maybe you actually eat real food. My point is there are a lot of vegans eating garbage. An example is calling whole grain healthy, its ground up into high glycemic pure sugar.

You're right, but all mock meats have tons of chemical additives and are 'ultra-processed foods.' You're better off eating unprocessed foods like legumes, soy and nuts for vegan protein.

Absolutely, as the study chart I covered in the video clearly shows, the saturated fat intake for the plant meat group was higher than both groups at baseline on their normal meat diets. That is despite a typical 40-50% drop in saturated fat intake that we see for vegans.

@@jenniferlittle9038 If you are replacing processed meat with processed mock meats that is low in saturated fat, it's a better choice is what I am saying. I'm making an apples to apples comparison, ofc low process foods like tofu are better. Not ALL mock meats contain chemical additives. You can make a lot of mock meats at home with tofu and seitan. Tofurky chik'n doesn't contain a bunch of chemicals, you could make this at home, same with a lot of field roast products.

Beyond Burger now has a version out replacing coconut oil with avocado oil. So even that product will be low in sat. fat

@@Jadentheman I saw someone doing a review on them recently, so yes, you are right that would be low in sat. fat The only mock meat products I have seen with either palm or coconut oil is beyond or impossible burgers / sausages, and gardein's Ultimate Plant-Based Ground Be’f Crumbles. Literally no other pb meats I've seen had either of these 2 oils. So for sure they cherry picked out the ones with the highest sat. fat

By what logic is meat unhealthy? cancer is caused by bad lifestyles not meat

Mike the Waco man ,usual bullshit?

Way to see the positive! Back in the ‘90’s, most people acknowledged that meat was unhealthy (they just still wanted to eat it), but then we made a U-Turn and started thinking it was one of the healthiest food groups.. People really seem to love it…I don’t get it. I always thought it was disgusting.

real meat is good for your health,vegans are a cult

@@user-no2mz9hl4f stop with the made up bullshit

Ikr, that had me 😂 no way that can be legit

and when you speak up over there you will get censored, your comment deleted. The whole point of war on "misinformation & disinformation" (to control).

Well, come back in 40 years and give an update

@@dimseablue136 I thought the diabetes, goiter, muscle wasting and so forth was supposed to happen after 4-5 years of eating plant based.

@@dimseablue136 23 years in, still waiting. 53, perfect blood work, no naps, feel amazing, look years younger than my age.

16 years in, eating cakes and cookies every day, still waiting... 😊

Mike the Waco man ,usual bullshit?

First time I had an impossible burger I was worried I just bit into flesh I guess that means they perfected it

Really?That ignorant?

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That one is dangerous and pure poison,wow

Ok Jose, eat your oil-saturated burger! Don't blame us for not warning you!

What about the pesticides and killing of agricultural "invasive species" like boars? Do they matter less than farm animals?

⁠​⁠@@dimseablue136And the food for the farm animals just spawns randomly? Weird to complain about this, if a much greater area is needed to nourish the animals that are supposed to be eaten by us. Those crops don’t convert 1:1 to meat. Animals need energy just to be alive - brain activity, muscles, body heat, digestion - as well.

You are not going to convince people who don't care about animal abuse to give up meat for the animals. You may convince them to give it up for the sake of their own health. in studies about dietary health the reason people follow various diets is irrelevant. The impact on their health is the point.

You're the complete opposite of evolution's goal, you're anti survival 😂. You're going against the natural function of ecosystem's by compromising your own health for other species.

But not for HUMANS and humans health is more important than animals.

Do you even know what toxins are?

Lesser of two evils, does not make it a good

Most of his opinions are biased, I trust nothing of what he says. Even his face is screaming for vitamins and minerals yet he keeps defending his way of eating.

The best one ever is here in Salt Lake City, called the Kein Fleis at Icehaus. Wow!

Even in the u.s. most pb meats are low in saturated fat. The only ones I have ever seen high in sat. fat are impossible and beyond products. These are the only 2 brands I've seen using coconut oil or palm oil in their pb meats. Just about every pb meat I've ever tried has around 1 gram of saturated fat or less. And I'm not cherry picking the "healthy ones." I wanted a junk food meal today, and bought gardein's Ultimate Plant-Based Chick’n Filets, they have 1.5 grams of saturated fat. These things are HUGE, they have like 25 grams of protein per fillet.

Coconat is healthy oil,poor uninformed and ignorant soul?

@@adim00lah The problem here really is people are consuming with more seed oils aka cotton seed oils and etc, if we stop consuming these things we'll be more healthier.

@@nushia7192 I would like for them to use better quality oils like olive or avocado oil. Some vegan meat brands like abbot butcher uses extra virgin olive oil.

Misrepresentation of the facts is never useful

Your heart is in the right place, but you still seem pretty misinformed about what "chemicals" and "food processing" mean... *Everything* is chemicals. Adding more chemicals to something doesn't make it bad or worse, it's all about what exactly those chemicals do, and most of the chemical additives in the EU are heavily tested for adverse health effects.

​@@insu_nayou are forgetting that they are usually introduced into foods before any studies are made, studies need funding too anyway

@@dimseablue136 not only does that have nothing to do with what I said, it's also entirely untrue

@@insu_na proof?

OR just don't eat it! Simple!

You can have compassion for animals and eat them, those things aren't mutually exclusive

@@ryanwellington7493 Caring for innocent, conscious individuals , whilst paying for them to be brutally killed? I'd like to know how THAT one works. Or maybe… it just doesn't. 🥺🌹❤️

@@ryanwellington7493"You can have compassion for people and murder them" - Your logic

@@AB-ft7ng what would be the point of killing people though? How would that benefit human health or the ecosystem?

Is compassion means to live unhealthier then no thanks

there is no such thing. do you think discussions would still be held if such a thing existed?

@@v.a.n.e. there are plenty of studies that suggest various meats are harmful

Cows would hypothetically have a lot more time to read while grazing out in the sun, comparatively to many wild animals whose habitats get destroyed to create plant farmlands, who then seek food from said farmlands without the guarantee of survival

@@dimseablue136 this guy. Yeah, and what does a vast majority of that plant farmland get used for? Feeding your cows.

​@@drexeldragon1723not if you eat regeneratively farmed cows, they just eat grass which is good for them, us, the environment and the ecosystem.

@@ryanwellington7493 Try feeding a planet of 9 billion with purely grass fed cows and see where it gets you, lol. The unmitigated stupidity on display here is staggering

​@@ryanwellington7493right, the manure feeds the ground, as it's always been a good fertilizer

What's happening with the AND position paper on vegan diets? Anti-vegans keep telling us that the old one went out of date, as if it is no longer valid.

That's because dietary cholesterol does not affect blood cholesterol much.

@@dimseablue136 I think that you're missing vokul's point. Statistically, 65 to 77% of 50 to 65 year olds (depending on multiple factors) have elevated cholesterol levels, and yet everyone in study had low levels. That suggests that there was some factor involved, perhaps in the choice of subjects?

@@dimseablue136 "much" is such a relative term, even if it's a 10-20% increase, that could raise someone's total cholesterol by 20-40 points, easily putting them at an increased risk for CVD. Even if it doesn't play as big as a part of SFA or TFA, it still has a causal roll and should not be ignored.

@@vokul_vegan Ah, am I right to say that it was a study of lean Asians and perhaps that influenced the figures, an equivalent cohort of European American being far more like to be obese or overweight? Findings may not cross over to the general public well then. It's strikes me, from debating with countless "carnivores" or paleo dieters on YT, that most of them have come in from the obese/extreme weight loss department rather than being healthy individuals (mentally or physically).

🤣 Trying to entice the "meat taste cravings" to real meat

I think there is a strong emotional factor there... years ago when I tried keto I thought I found the Holy Grail. That i will show 'them all' how to cure the body. It's hard work to stick to that diet, so it's natural to defend and get emotional.

​@@quazilionWell I'm carnivore. Going around and viewing other people's stuff atm. Wanting to see all diet view points due to curiosity. And I am quick to defend carnivore. The reason is not at all about the fact that it's a hard diet to maintain. I'm emotionally connected to it because it essentially saved my life. And if you go to other people and how they speak of it. It's an incredibly common aspect of carnivore. Having mental and physical disabilities be entirely nullified and then being told it's unhealthy by someone is particularly irksome. And frankly. If it was somehow less healthy for me. I'd easily be willing to die at 50 to have this life quality. I don't think I wanted to make it to 30 with how things were before my diet.

​​@@maverick5335That's exactly how everyone that gets involved in a new diatary trend behaves in beggining- a bit of fanatism. Been there, donne that with keto, macrobiotic and so on - people had the same "miracle" cures despite doing completely opposite diets (think carnivore keto vs strict frutarians). The reason behind this paradox: all kinds of diatary restriction are very healthy in our currently overfed society and caloric reduction, reguardless of form, is profoundly terapeutic. People get the insane benefits of some/intense caloric restriction and atribute it to their "ideal" diets.

@@stefanisilva2493 Well I was never like this in my Mediterranean diet, nor my general low carb, nor keto. But keto was harder to stick to for me, and I doubt I was in ketosis much until carnivore. More restriction actually curved cravings in me for some reason. Where as with keto, my lack of will caused me to cheat sometimes like a dunce. I don't believe in miracle cures though. I'm trying to figure out why exactly my issues have gone away for me and many others, when it also don't do anything for plenty more. Clearly something here for me is doing better. And it clearly ain't universal as most people seem like they can be healthy without restriction. I think a big reason I'm probably doing better than the carnivores which complain though, is due to consistent beef liver being a part of my diet. And the incorporation of the centrum men's vitamin that ive been taking since even before my diet began. I want to slowly start adding things to it again though which I never made clear in my last post. From what I've seen from all sides of the spectrum, including some of the biggest carnivores, is that fruits into my diet would be good. Only issue is deciding which ones to do it with and at what level. As the worrisome thing for me is just how high modern fruits are with sugars, and my issues seem to be perpetuated mostly by even low sugar levels.

@maverick5335 cured diabetes? Does it mean you no longer get sugar spikes when eating cards?

It would be nice to see more epidemiology on this but this study shows that grill workers have increased polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon exposure markers in their pee when they work vs not working: www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/1/230 Also, that people living near these restaurants have twice the markers: "The median concentration of urinary PAHs was 1196.70 and 627.54 ng/g creatinine in the people living near restaurants and the control group, respectively." www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-12040-8

This one too shows a relationship for lung cancer but it was significant in men only, though trended higher in both sexes: "Overall, we observed a statistically significantly increased risk of lung cancer in male cooks (OR1 = 1.27; 95% CI, 1.09 to 1.49) but not in female cooks (OR1 = 1.16; 95% CI, 0.96 to 1.40), before adjustment for smoking." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7508228/

Man... That makes me so sad 😢

​@MictheVegan the first link: "Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are a class of chemicals that occur naturally in coal, crude oil, and gasoline. They result from burning coal, oil, gas, wood, garbage, and tobacco" This does not say anything about meat specifically, rather it is the cooking process that causes these health effects. Meat could easily be removed or replaced with anything else and it will still cause said effects. www.cdc.gov/biomonitoring/PAHs_FactSheet.html Second link: The Nature website limits the ability for publications unless there is a ton of funding behind it: "Publishing options... ... Gold open access ... ... The final version of the published article is then free to read for everyone. The APC to publish Gold Open Access in Nature is £8890.00/$12290.00/€10290.00. " www.nature.com/nature/for-authors/publishing-options A few issues I have also found in this "study" article: does not take into account what people eat while being around such restaurants cross-sectional study, in which people are interviewed and asked for anecdotal evidence, without any follow-ups. This conclusion is based on nothing else but correlation and no plausible causes can be drawn from it.

My first reply here got held for review for the links so to summarize what I said, the first link provided here does not make any connections or direct claims that meat will cause health risks The second link:the issue with the nature website is that it requires you to pay a huge fee to post a public "article", does not have to be a valid study but most importantly needs a lot of funding for the information to be public. But regardless, it's cross-sectional which means at one point in time, people around said unknown restaurants have been interviewed so the evidence provided is anecdotal at best. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons come from burning of fuel such as oils coal wood etc, yet again they have no direct link to meat so the conclusion that meat causes these health effects are correlational not causational, or the links are irrelevant to the commenter's request. And as for the third link, just like the first one, does not seem to attribute inhalation of meat vapor directly to any negative health effects, or attributing meat to them whatsoever, if anything this only highlights issues regarding the food processing industries and working environments for humans, but that's another story

not true. all vegans eat proccessed pruducts. they require supplements and fortified foods. this is why all vegans are unhealthy and malnurished

They always do, it's about clicks not helping people

@@dimseablue136 Agreed

Eating a healthy whole foods plant-based diet will increase your mental clarity and result in greater resolve to achieve your other goals.

My right eye was in fact quite irritated from some dust exposure for that last video. I considered re-filming it so not surprised you noticed. Believe it or not this video was filmed before the other since it is edited by my editor. Thanks

Often called the Daily Heil in the UK, because of their support for a certain German politician who retired in 1945.

@@pattheplanter yikes

What do you eat? It's probably not a "problem" per se, but just a reflection of what you are eating.

It's almost as if eating processed food is the actual bad thing! Like comparing how healthy a vegan diet is compared to a "normal diet" that is full of unhealthy processed foods. If people stay away from processed crap they will have a healthier diet than 95% of people. Whether they eat vegan or not.

@@MustardSkaven if that was actually the case yea, but it's not

@@veganchiefwarrior6444 I hate to break the news but it is.

@@MustardSkaven that's not what the science shows so sorry to ruin your hopes that you are clinging onto but it's clear as day that animal products even in there whole state are carcinogenic and that animal protein activates and feeds cancer cells, cholesterol causes strokes and heart attacks etc etc

True, but it is what it is, an interest and money driven world