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@animen2463
@animen2463 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : Liam has made more content on HxH than Togashi has at this point
@ghostspder
@ghostspder 3 жыл бұрын
you're probably right
@penta4568
@penta4568 3 жыл бұрын
Unironically
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
@@penta4568 I acutallty had a Theory a while back, that this Type is mis-named and should actually be the 'Absorption-Type'. Hear me out: It started with me thinking about Neon Lestrade and the fact she had a Poetry-Ability without knowing or even caring about 'Deep Stuff', let alone 'Poetry'. I started wondering and comparing all the Specialists we know of. And they all possibly absorb Knowledge to get their Ability working?! I noticed that all the Specialist-User-Things can be explained with this. Pitou literally shows us the Medical Books she read; so the Ability could take the Knowledge out of her and/or of the Books still lying around! And this goes for all other's, without Fail!
@jarednewton3905
@jarednewton3905 2 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@GuyWhoHatesChildren
@GuyWhoHatesChildren 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@akirachaossuta
@akirachaossuta 3 жыл бұрын
For chrollo’s second requirement. It’s just says he need to be answered by his target, so even if they don’t know about nen they can still answer his questions. Neon did it fine and she didn’t know about nen, you could literally say “I don’t know how I do this”/“I don’t know” and it would still count as long as he asked about the ability. So yes he could still steal komugi ability.
@jaythaprofit_
@jaythaprofit_ 3 жыл бұрын
Komugis ability isn’t necessarily nen. We know that ai is a gaseous monster from an unknown land. It’s ability to alter reality could be a biproduct of what it is, kinda like how Superman in a yellow sun has super powers.
@thicckermit6611
@thicckermit6611 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaythaprofit_ your thinking of alluka not komugi
@akirachaossuta
@akirachaossuta 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaythaprofit_ I think you got Komugi and Alluka/Nanika mixed up :)
@tiborsipos1174
@tiborsipos1174 3 жыл бұрын
This. The requerement is to ask about nen or nen ability. Doesnt specify it MUST be encyclopedic knowledge. If somebody calls it voodoo then its immune to skillhunter? No. Could be a mistranslaton, but Chrolo only need to ask about something related to that skill to understand it better. Yet this is HxH... keeping your ultimate ability a secret is a must survival. If you let the enemy see your hatsu normally you expect one of you to be dead. Chrollo would find out Komugis nen quite fast. The same way Meruem found it out. He became aware that Komugi is rapidly growing because of her own oath, aka if I'm ever beaten, I die... In jujutsu kaisen skillhunter would be easy, since letting the enemy known about your cursed technique would make them think about the consequence of it, amplifying the effect...
@Marrianno
@Marrianno 2 жыл бұрын
Well Komugis case is not guiet the same as Neons. Neon doesnt know about ben but she knows that she has extraordinary power and she was able to explain how she predicted future. Komugi just thinks it's a natural talent. Tho you might be right.
@8E_3T
@8E_3T 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo discovering the brown note sounds like a 10/10 comedy filler episode.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty obvious that Specialization-Nen always 'layers above' some other Nen-Category. I mean, we literally see it all the time: Chrollo conjures a book, Kurapika enhances his Nen-Skill itself, and Neon emits an ugly-as-fluff thing. I mean, i really dont understand some peoples misconception that they literally have to learn and incorporate those other Categorys into their Ability. AT LEAST Neon's existence should blow that Idea to pieces, yeah? She's a Nen-Genius; an uncounciouss User - you really wanna tell me she's using THREE Categorys? Haha, no. She's not.
@jestermaniac3131
@jestermaniac3131 5 ай бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589why do you type like a poem
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 5 ай бұрын
@@jestermaniac3131 A cultural thing. Anyway: Wanna talk about what i said? Or aott Nen in general?
@abdul-basitafolabi4861
@abdul-basitafolabi4861 3 жыл бұрын
Or any of Killua's abilities. Even if he does steal them he has demonstrated no affinity nor mastery of electricity. Killua's stolen moves would probably only damage Chrollo.
@Sernival
@Sernival 3 жыл бұрын
True, Killua went through specific training and might have a unique body as a Zoldyck, since he can also produce claws.
@anrper6095
@anrper6095 3 жыл бұрын
He could simply steal and not use them
@-ZH
@-ZH 3 жыл бұрын
@@anrper6095 This is under the last part of the video, which he can steal but cannot practically use.
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sernival those aren't claws
@hugon6717
@hugon6717 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcioamaral7511 they're his nails, but they basically work like claws or a knife.
@moritzdreier6611
@moritzdreier6611 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Chrollo would be able to steal Komugis power because Neon knew nothing about Nen as well, plus she even explained her ability to Meruem
@Themurderin
@Themurderin 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, I forgot about that. Although I dunno what use Chrollo would get out of an aura that predicts moves in Gungi, unless he wants to try his luck as a general or something I guess lol
@alexbentele6667
@alexbentele6667 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is komugi is completely unaware of her nen usage… she just thinks she’s good at Gungi. Chrollo would ask her a question and she’d either say “whats an ability?” or “i am good an gungi” and idk if that would fulfill chrollos requirements
@Themurderin
@Themurderin 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexbentele6667 Chrollo was able to gather the context clues from her explanation of her, personally thought of, fortune telling and once she manifested the nen beast he noticed it and filled in the blanks. So I'd think that Komugi could be playing a game with Chrollo and he'd notice her eyes shimmer and infer that there's a nen ability happening. Hell, Meruem was able to notice her ability awakening during their matches so I don't think it's a stretch to think that Chrollo could as well. The rest can be inferred from simple questions that don't necessarily have to mention nen buzzwords.
@chrisdaniels6174
@chrisdaniels6174 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo would be pretty petty and spiteful to steal komungis ability 🤣
@potterloko0175
@potterloko0175 3 жыл бұрын
Neon explaining her ability is answering a question about nen, since her ability are nen related. Komugi doesn't know anything about her abilities only that she is great at playing gunji.
@Clemzysmith
@Clemzysmith 3 жыл бұрын
When I think Liam had covered every thing coverable on hxh, he finds a way to surprise me. 👏🏽
@opejyr777
@opejyr777 3 жыл бұрын
unlike Tekking , he hasn't covered Trees yet
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
@@opejyr777 I’M CONFUSED! This whole ‚Theft-Nen needs 4-5 Restrictions’ makes no sense. I mean, that’s not how Nen works?! I’m not argueing semantics here: that’s just not how Restrictions ever worked. They are not some Puzzle-Pieces, they are each a Boost. I accepted this matter-of-factly stated Rule for Years, until i looked at it and went ‚Wait, wtf??’. Why would Restrictions have a Number, when Restrictions can be Thousands of Levels of Potency? So your telling me 5 tiny, tiny Restrictions like ‚Dont eat Salad on your Birthday’ can power Chrollos Hatsu but not 1 massive Restrictions like Kurapikas or Adult-Gons?!
@douglascramer1501
@douglascramer1501 3 жыл бұрын
*INFO:* Chrollo Lucilfer needs to keep his targets alive, otherwise, his stolen abilities will disappear, with the exception of *Sun & Moon.* This makes his ability even more difficult to use, as the users that he steals from become extremely vulnerable.
@shlomoshlomo963
@shlomoshlomo963 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo should steal the howl ability and then just carry everyone in his pocket
@asterion2562
@asterion2562 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I didn’t overlook to that yet.
@zephir1812
@zephir1812 3 жыл бұрын
If the user dies there is two possibilities : - the ability disappears - it gets stronger (like when Pitou was crushed and Terpsichora made her attack and rip gon’s arm even after death) and Chrollo keeps it
@johnnelson1519
@johnnelson1519 3 жыл бұрын
@@shlomoshlomo963 did you watch the show..
@shlomoshlomo963
@shlomoshlomo963 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnelson1519 obviously
@JDWalker495
@JDWalker495 3 жыл бұрын
Stating the obvious but He can never steal the properties of rubber and gum
@asterion2562
@asterion2562 3 жыл бұрын
Very true! Who would even forget that?
@Themurderin
@Themurderin 3 жыл бұрын
He could tho :
@Rafael-kl2ts
@Rafael-kl2ts 3 жыл бұрын
and especially not both at the same time
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
@@asterion2562 Its pretty obvious that Specialization-Nen always 'layers above' some other Nen-Category. I mean, we literally see it all the time: Chrollo conjures a book, Kurapika enhances his Nen-Skill itself, and Neon emits an ugly-as-fluff thing. I mean, i really dont understand some peoples misconception that they literally have to learn and incorporate those other Categorys into their Ability. AT LEAST Neon's existence should blow that Idea to pieces, yeah? She's a Nen-Genius; an uncounciouss User - you really wanna tell me she's using THREE Categorys? Haha, no. She's not.
@ringobingo9573
@ringobingo9573 3 жыл бұрын
He probably could never get it, even if chrollo wanted to, hisoka is aware of his power and would be highly protective plus if he knew the conditions, all he would have to is put bungee gum on his hand and no palm can be received
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo can't steal Tonpa's incredible versatile nen ability
@asterion2562
@asterion2562 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, we forgot about the one and only Tonpa.
@fredrico7949
@fredrico7949 3 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't dare
@odeswarms
@odeswarms 3 жыл бұрын
Tonpa would obliterate Chrollo before he got the chance to try
@lost2698
@lost2698 2 жыл бұрын
Tonpa is GOD
@pie1485
@pie1485 2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean? 😂
@jk.6624
@jk.6624 3 жыл бұрын
This man single handedly keeps the whole hxh fanbase alive
@laquanlucas6953
@laquanlucas6953 3 жыл бұрын
Facts bro
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
NO, not single-handely. There are others: Search for 'em! Go!
@shabnam7827
@shabnam7827 2 жыл бұрын
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@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
@yymenghis64 ???
@shabnam7827
@shabnam7827 2 жыл бұрын
@yymenghis64 💀💀💀hits different when u're actually in medical school
@ronzd27
@ronzd27 3 жыл бұрын
Re: nen beasts. The beasts are postmortem nen invoked by the first king, not the current succession war princes so I would think that Chrollo would need to fulfil the conditions with that inital king. Thereby, it would be impossible for him to steal any of the original nen beats.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
The Question also comes to people's mind if Stolen Abilites are affected by the Nen-Ring in Terms of Efficiency. ...Yeah... surely. The Answer is Yep. I am sure though: Its possible but it 'costs extra' to enhance your Effiency. For a Specialist to steal an Enhancement-Ability and use it at not 40% but 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 or 100 Percent should be possible. But it costs and doesnt naturally come with 'just stealing'. Like Pizza not automatically having Sauce but you sure can have it together anyway.
@smurfx
@smurfx 3 жыл бұрын
yeah the beasts feed on the candidates nen but they are not created by them and are only given to them. chrollo might be able to steal the ability to eat the nen beast like that one guy had but that is as far as he can get.
@SpartanHoplite360
@SpartanHoplite360 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking up thinking about Chrollo using the Love Shower ability 😂
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty obvious that Specialization-Nen always 'layers above' some other Nen-Category. I mean, we literally see it all the time: Chrollo conjures a book, Kurapika enhances his Nen-Skill itself, and Neon emits an ugly-as-fluff thing. I mean, i really dont understand some peoples misconception that they literally have to learn and incorporate those other Categorys into their Ability. AT LEAST Neon's existence should blow that Idea to pieces, yeah? She's a Nen-Genius; an uncounciouss User - you really wanna tell me she's using THREE Categorys? Haha, no. She's not.
@ShadowLugia141
@ShadowLugia141 2 жыл бұрын
Okay now I want a comedy spin off of Hunter x Hunter centered around Chrollo trying various nen abilities from other characters, and antics ensuing as a result.
@minch333
@minch333 3 жыл бұрын
I can't say much about how good Chrollo is on the flute, but I can say he is a marvelous conductor!
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
The Question also comes to people's mind if Stolen Abilites are affected by the Nen-Ring in Terms of Efficiency. ...Yeah... surely. The Answer is Yep. I am sure though: Its possible but it 'costs extra' to enhance your Effiency. For a Specialist to steal an Enhancement-Ability and use it at not 40% but 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 or 100 Percent should be possible. But it costs and doesnt naturally come with 'just stealing'. Like Pizza not automatically having Sauce but you sure can have it together anyway.
@tenderandmoist5011
@tenderandmoist5011 11 ай бұрын
Bro was conducting air tho
@mikhacoffman4522
@mikhacoffman4522 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo also lacks the speed to use Neteros ability the way we’ve seen it being used, and possibly it’s an ability that can only be used at that speed which would make chrollo unable to use it completely.
@kingmedjai9433
@kingmedjai9433 3 жыл бұрын
possibly
@insertname4337
@insertname4337 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like he would be able to use it, just it will be very slow and won't even pack that much of a punch which would make it painfully inefficient
@Gwynsladle
@Gwynsladle 3 жыл бұрын
i thought differently, i think he wouldn't even be able to evoke the skill, it requires extreme mastery that Netero had.
@hereticsign
@hereticsign 3 жыл бұрын
@@insertname4337 Nop, this hatsu netero gained was a result of complete submission and madness. No human can do that. That is what meruam said. And forget the use, chrollo would not go near a half-dead netero so why even entertain the notion?
@hereticsign
@hereticsign 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gwynsladle You can't really call it a mastery though because that would mean it can be mastered by others. The mental state it requires, it takes madness to achieve that.
@Sernival
@Sernival 3 жыл бұрын
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@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
I acutallty had a Theory a while back, that this Type is mis-named and should actually be the 'Absorption-Type'. Hear me out: It started with me thinking about Neon Lestrade and the fact she had a Poetry-Ability without knowing or even caring about 'Deep Stuff', let alone 'Poetry'. I started wondering and comparing all the Specialists we know of. And they all possibly absorb Knowledge to get their Ability working?! I noticed that all the Specialist-User-Things can be explained with this. Pitou literally shows us the Medical Books she read; so the Ability could take the Knowledge out of her and/or of the Books still lying around! And this goes for all other's, without Fail!
@TimmyMcGowan
@TimmyMcGowan Жыл бұрын
Cheetu is invincible to Chrollo because technically he’d never answer a question he asked because he’d be too busy talking about himself
@gabagoooby
@gabagoooby 3 жыл бұрын
He would need another Manga chapter to even be able to steal them
@metalsadman
@metalsadman 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@anislaour8538
@anislaour8538 2 жыл бұрын
What about 20 ?
@asterion2562
@asterion2562 3 жыл бұрын
I’m happy that you are still making hunter x hunter content, I just hope that the new season is coming soon and keep up the good work!
@alphhs5260
@alphhs5260 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe in 20 years
@asterion2562
@asterion2562 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphhs5260 I hope the anime won’t end up like Berserk :’)
@radisbad
@radisbad 3 жыл бұрын
@@asterion2562 ugh this comment made me sad.
@asterion2562
@asterion2562 3 жыл бұрын
I hope he’ll never stop making these, and when the time that Togashi will make more chapters in the manga, I am sure he’ll be very happy to overlook to the chapters and show what he noticed or share to us with the amazing content he gives us!
@Cosmicvocal
@Cosmicvocal 3 жыл бұрын
New season? nani?!
@zalanacoruja6415
@zalanacoruja6415 3 жыл бұрын
Lets think that netero has to pray to activate his abilites, the same way he can pray without arms, i think chrollo ability doesnt realy need to be a palm, as long as it represents te touch it should be enough, and about nen questions, that girl who could write the future (cant remember the name) she didnt have any knowledge of nen at all, but chrollo manage to steal her ability... Ps: love your content, if ever need an mkt professional please let me know, i would be more than glad to help you out - LIKE SO THAT HE CAN SEE PLS TY -
@codecreator879
@codecreator879 3 жыл бұрын
Neon still knew she had a special ability though
@zalanacoruja6415
@zalanacoruja6415 3 жыл бұрын
​@@codecreator879 so does komugi technically, she knows she is the best at that game (cant remember name either hahahah) and she cant lose also: she didnt knew it was nen related
@codecreator879
@codecreator879 3 жыл бұрын
@@zalanacoruja6415 but that's not like Neon. Neon could explain to Chrollo how her ability worked. Don't Komugi can explain why and how she's so skilled.
@zalanacoruja6415
@zalanacoruja6415 3 жыл бұрын
@@codecreator879 she did actualy explain she said that the images from the games appear in her head
@zalanacoruja6415
@zalanacoruja6415 3 жыл бұрын
while she was focused
@umbralryu
@umbralryu 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo steal chain jail; uses it on somebody outside the Phantom Troupe and dies.
@dragonic22
@dragonic22 2 ай бұрын
I'M not so sure. The restriction for chain jail is because of judgement chain, right?
@umbralryu
@umbralryu 2 ай бұрын
@@dragonic22 Four possible answers: 1. No, they are separate, so see original statement. 2. Yes, but since the restriction through judgement chain is what makes the Nen stronger, chain jail won't be effective. 3. Yes and the restriction doesn't apply because of it or worse judgement chain counts it against the owner. 4. Chrollo hears an explanation of the power to steal so just makes people honorary members of the phantom troupe before using it on them making this all irrelevant.
@DigiPen92
@DigiPen92 3 жыл бұрын
0:28 Dang, imagine that Ging getting Nen punched by 3624 Leorios.
@GladiusTR
@GladiusTR 2 жыл бұрын
Chrollo: Grrr, I NEED to become invincible in this board game! KOMUGI! I MUST HAVE YOUR NEN! Komugi: Er, what's nen? Chrollo: NOOOOOOO!!!!!
@MikoYae
@MikoYae 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo cannot take Franklin's nen: his palm is too large to imprint on the book
@4varaa4
@4varaa4 3 жыл бұрын
oh sh
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
@@4varaa4 I acutallty had a Theory a while back, that this Type is mis-named and should actually be the 'Absorption-Type'. Hear me out: It started with me thinking about Neon Lestrade and the fact she had a Poetry-Ability without knowing or even caring about 'Deep Stuff', let alone 'Poetry'. I started wondering and comparing all the Specialists we know of. And they all possibly absorb Knowledge to get their Ability working?! I noticed that all the Specialist-User-Things can be explained with this. Pitou literally shows us the Medical Books she read; so the Ability could take the Knowledge out of her and/or of the Books still lying around! And this goes for all other's, without Fail!
@4varaa4
@4varaa4 3 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 oh, so is it like an “extension” for specialists?
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
@@4varaa4 Uhm, not quite. Its hard to explain. 'Layer above' is the best i can describe it. I mean, Chrollo does not use 'Conjuration' to 'conjure' his Book. The Book IS the Specialist Ability.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
@@4varaa4 I mean, look at Neon. She would have to use Manipulation, Emission and Specialization to make a Nen-Beast that manipulated her Hand to write the future. 3 Types?? No way!!
@charminochoa4603
@charminochoa4603 3 жыл бұрын
I think that emperor time only activates Kurapika's scarlett eyes, remember that the scarlett eyes are what made him a specialist, not emperor time
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
I’M CONFUSED! This whole ‚Theft-Nen needs 4-5 Restrictions’ makes no sense. I mean, that’s not how Nen works?! I’m not argueing semantics here: that’s just not how Restrictions ever worked. They are not some Puzzle-Pieces, they are each a Boost. Why would Restrictions have a Number, when Restrictions can be Thousands of Levels of Potency? So your telling me 5 tiny, tiny Restrictions like ‚Dont eat Salad on your Birthday’ can power Chrollos Hatsu but not 1 Massive Restrictions like Kurapikas or Adult-Gons?!
@johnnelson1519
@johnnelson1519 3 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure chrollo's first condition is he has to see the ability or at least know its name
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
I’M CONFUSED! This whole ‚Theft-Nen needs 4-5 Restrictions’ makes no sense. I mean, that’s not how Nen works?! I’m not argueing semantics here: that’s just not how Restrictions ever worked. They are not some Puzzle-Pieces, they are each a Boost. I accepted this matter-of-factly stated Rule for Years, until i looked at it and went ‚Wait, wtf??’. Why would Restrictions have a Number, when Restrictions can be Thousands of Levels of Potency? So your telling me 5 tiny, tiny Restrictions like ‚Dont eat Salad on your Birthday’ can power Chrollos Hatsu but not 1 massive Restrictions like Kurapikas or Adult-Gons?!
@goonerbear8659
@goonerbear8659 2 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 The conditions must balance out the power. More powerful abilities require stricter limits, more difficult activation requirements, or higher costs. "Don't eat salad on your birthday" would not justify Skill Hunter (or anything that required a condition). Skill Hunter's activation requirements make it difficult to use, especially in a fight, where it would be very handy to swipe an opponent's Nen ability. Chrollo has to do something like what he did with Neon - sit down for a talk over dinner or drinks, and during that time, 1) see the target's ability in action 2) ask questions about Nen and receive answers from his target 3) get the target to touch the handprint on his book 4) complete steps 1-3 within an hour Someone hostile to Chrollo/the Phantom Troupe can't be coaxed into such a scenario easily, even if they don't know about these requirements. And then he has to meet the new ability's conditions.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
@@goonerbear8659 YEAH, that's what I'm saying! But Zenos PHRASING makes it very clear that FIVE 'Eat your salad, chrollo-chan'-levels of Requirement would be enough. ?!?
@seungkwanbot3203
@seungkwanbot3203 Жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 no it doesn't wtf lol
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 Жыл бұрын
@@seungkwanbot3203 I think you dont understand my comment. Please re-read.
@mmmk6322
@mmmk6322 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo's skill hunter is not op. You just need info from his first fight with zeno&silva to know that it is super problematic. It doesn't seal nen, only steals hatsu. That already makes it really weak against emitters and enhancers. Recalling back zeno versus chrollo, zeno immediately concludes that stealing an ability requires that chrollo needs to complete 4 or 5 conditions. Zeno's battle strategy is why chrollo abandoned the objective of sealing their nen abilities. Zeno used his dragon for a long range combat, zeno guessed that an ability such as skill hunter requires hefty risks and a risk for someone who is a specialist is close quarter combat, cause that puts their enhancement category to the test. That is why Chrollo immediately understood that zeno saw through him quickly. No hand combat means no chance for him to fulfill a requirement. The only time Zeno gets to hand combat is when he stops using his hatsu as if he thought that if it gets stolen, at least it'll be stolen in a position where he doesn't need it. Also, the reason why zeno and silva were fine with a strong emissions attack that hits both chrollo and zeno is back to the nen category analysis that zeno had in mind. Him being of emissions category makes his enhancement attribute stronger than someone of the opposite category to enhancement. Chrollo surviving that attack was him using a lot of aura, possibly more than what zeno was using. He collapsed upon them leaving the room. If the fight continued, chrollo would have lost. In HxH, the fights are choreographed so brilliantly, and I'm extremely disheartened that no one makes a video about them.
@hereticsign
@hereticsign 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate it when fanboys say chrollo can defeat 2 seasoned assassins considered as legends. The only reason chrollo even dared to confront them alone has to be because illumi told when he would finish the job and how he surmised that zoldycks would not dare to kill him after illumi has finished his job. This fight would never happen if chrollo never knew for how long he has to stall the zoldycks or if it has to happen, he needs to have feitan or phinks or nobunaga. with him. Those two zoldycks would have gladly and without thinking sacrifice one of them just to complete the contract.
@Night-Shade.
@Night-Shade. 2 жыл бұрын
There is no proof that Chrollo would have lost that fight. I agree 2 of the strongest Zoldyck assassins are no joke, but Chrollo was intentionally just stalling. Most importantly, Zeno himself says that Chrollo was holding back the entire time.
@hereticsign
@hereticsign 2 жыл бұрын
@@Night-Shade. Go read the manga again if you have ever read it. Chrollo asked Zeno about 1v1 fight and Zeno said he definitely would win if chrollo was holding back but if chrollo was serious, then the story would be different and that doesn't mean Zeno would have lost but he would most probably die.Forget Silva , Zeno has enough nen and experience to handle chrollo who needs prep time to use his nen at the fullest which is seen in his match vs hisoka. I will say this again, chrollo would not have confronted 2 veteran assassin's who doesn't drag fights alone if he didn't have faith in Zoldycks professionalism. If that phone hadn't rang, Silva would have killed both Zeno and Lucifer.
@Night-Shade.
@Night-Shade. 2 жыл бұрын
@@hereticsign That’s your interpretation of Zeno’s words. Neither does the zlodycks nor do we know what abilities are inside of that book. Any character in hunter x hunter would benefit from prep time. Chrollo isn’t reliant on prep time and fighters have to adapt to any situation in a fight because you don’t know what would happen during a fight. If Chrollo wants to kill them then he would’ve used a different ability rather than a blanket that was used for evasion. Also, this wasn’t Silva’s first encounter with Chrollo and it is apparent that neither of them underestimates the other which means a lot!
@hereticsign
@hereticsign 2 жыл бұрын
@@Night-Shade. you haven't read hisoka vs chrollo fight? With prep time , chrollo can take anyone down except netero. That is the sole reason hisoka died.
@ElymasMagus0
@ElymasMagus0 3 жыл бұрын
Also killua's Godspeed, Killua is immune to poison and electricity Thats why he is killua
@charminochoa4603
@charminochoa4603 3 жыл бұрын
I think he'd be able to copy it, but he wouldn't be able to use it, either that or he's also immune to poison and electricit, I mean imagine how Kurapika would react if Chrollo died because of some poison
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 3 жыл бұрын
honestly, that would be a really interesting way for them to beat chrollo, they intentionally let him steal killuas ability and conveniently leave out that the electricity not hurting you is not in fact part of the ability and he just frys himself
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 3 жыл бұрын
He isn't immune He's highly resistant He himself stated that it still hurts in heaven's arena
@charminochoa4603
@charminochoa4603 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcioamaral7511 well, it's not that different
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 3 жыл бұрын
@@charminochoa4603 Actually it is Why? Because there's a limit Being immune is not having a limit to how much electricity he can handle Water resistant phones aren't waterproof
@lucystarlight8887
@lucystarlight8887 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool video. I never considered that there might be abilities Chrollo couldn't steal. I would also say some of the Shadow Beast's abilites, like Porcupine and Leech, might be difficult to steal because they involve having bodies specifically molded to their abilities.
@mfgrobin9657
@mfgrobin9657 3 жыл бұрын
To your point with the palm . I am pretty sure that when it comes to conditions that they are stretchable . Togashi even elaborated on conditions that should run into certain hiccups but do not and also that nen users are able to augment the rule in the first place . The palm might be more vague then specific when we jump to different creatures here . It could very well be that both is possible . That it doesnt work or that you can stretch the condition so it does . There are also other vagueish things that could be explained as one or the other . P.s.:It is true that skill hunter isnt as broken as people say it is but it is by no means bad . For me its alone the fact that the person cant use their nen ability anymore after the conditions being met that qualifies this nen ability as extremely powerful . sealing the hatsu of your opponent while stealing it is good and all but the sealing part alone is god like .
@Thr4kus
@Thr4kus 3 жыл бұрын
I had way too much fun with the minutiae of this video like the crowd of Leorios and Chrollo pulling out a subscribe button
@durein8992
@durein8992 3 жыл бұрын
that subscribe button is the bandit's secret ;)
@leon3624
@leon3624 3 жыл бұрын
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HE ACTUALLY DID IT! THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN, I AM OVER THE MOON! Edit: Great video as always and answered my question perfectly, thanks again!
@mmmk6322
@mmmk6322 3 жыл бұрын
He is wrong. Chrollo stole abilities he couldn't use before. Only the pakudona and the forth price cases are debatable, but the other cases it is not true. Chrollo can steal them.
@leon3624
@leon3624 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmmk6322 what ability would that be if you don’t mind me asking?
@ReXLlllll
@ReXLlllll 3 жыл бұрын
If someday HxH get out of its hiatus....this channel will surpass our grandsons life with so much content.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Yet, he's not the only one. Check others out also.
@chublududu6296
@chublududu6296 3 жыл бұрын
I think I can answer the one about Kurapikas Emperor Time. When kurapikas eyes turn scarlet he turns from a conjurer to a specialist (this is a claim made by kurapikas teacher). Due to this new change in aure type, kurapika made a new hatsu, and this was emperor time. Emperor time is a specialist hatsu, however there was no indication that scarlet eye dna was required, just specialist aura. Meaning that chrollo might be able to steal it since its just a hatsu for being a specialist. Thats why kurapika needs his scarlet eyes active. Although I don't know for sure :)
@igorchistyakov8876
@igorchistyakov8876 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know, if Liam and Editor-Kun are the same person, but in case they are not, I would like to praise the latter for the amazing job. Ever so beloved subscribe-games always steal the spotlight, but they wouldn't even be a thing without him, not to mention visuals being always on point as well. So thank you, unknown hero!
@silverswish100
@silverswish100 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You :D
@ppv1780
@ppv1780 3 жыл бұрын
You could do a 1 v 1 combat series, where you discuss who would potentially win a deathmatch if it were to happen.
@james-509
@james-509 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you argue that "Rule 2: The user must ask a person a question about nen and the person must answer." That doesn't mean they must answer correctly just have to answer so instead of being unknowing about nen it depends on how open a person's heart is?
@GailB0707
@GailB0707 3 жыл бұрын
Everytime you mention how amazing the databook is with the names, I want to have one more and more 😂
@Js23187
@Js23187 2 жыл бұрын
Youre breathtakingly gorgeous
@harrison1735
@harrison1735 3 жыл бұрын
For some of these abilities Chrollo could always try the Ging method of observing and replicating. The Kakin curse squad for example where you have many people using identical hatsu suggests that it can’t be too difficult to learn. Skill Hunter is just a convenient shortcut.
@mmmk6322
@mmmk6322 3 жыл бұрын
Love shower is a manipulation nen ability. It is using nen to control the shape of the webs. Chrollo can steal it! But can't use it. He can steal it all but can't use it all.
@rexgeorgerodriguez7620
@rexgeorgerodriguez7620 3 жыл бұрын
I think love shower is an Enhancer ability because it's very durable.
@mmmk6322
@mmmk6322 3 жыл бұрын
2:54 that technicality doesn't apply. If netero uses a collapsing arm move, he'd be holding him for at least a second, as mereum was able to say something during that move. Sure, chrollo would get knocked out senseless and killed before he can understand what happened, but he can technically steal the ability if netero gave it to him, by using it slowly. One way to do this is if chrollo uses a manipulation hatsu and netero for some reason gets hit with it. Chrollo probably can't ever use netero's ability in real combat because of its restriction. He needs to pray and have a completely calm heart and nen for that ability to activate. In the entire series, not even the Zoldyk's have shown something similar tp netero's ability in having a calm nen. Silva and Zeno require to faint with their nen in order to mask real attacks amongst real ones, while netero's nen is super quiet and doesn't leak out information about which attack he'd choose. Mereum, being a combat strategy genius was incapable of making a reaction on netero's attacks, not even reacting to his nen attack. That level of calmness is indication of how fast netero is at entering a prayer state that far surpasses mereum speed, for chrollo, despite being a nen genius, it could take him the order of seconds, just like the 40 year old netero doing 10 thousand punches of gratitude.
@KingDreams
@KingDreams 3 жыл бұрын
Liam why you making all this Hunter Hunter videos you giving me hope for another chapter 😔 Damm i miss it so much, great video tho
@asterion2562
@asterion2562 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope that Togashi would get motivated and get healthy soon to complete the manga really soon this year!
@annedrieck7316
@annedrieck7316 2 жыл бұрын
@UCVwe1sbqyyehnKtszbIkbhg let him do what he wants
@thevideo-beast122
@thevideo-beast122 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure the target’s ignorance or unawareness of Nen can be used as a defence against Bandit Secret. Neon had gotten her power taken away and don’t got the impression that she knew anything about Nen.
@jmanrage5496
@jmanrage5496 3 жыл бұрын
I love the detail you looked into this simple question. It feel like it adds more to HxH.
@goldcobraarima9819
@goldcobraarima9819 3 жыл бұрын
Can we please talk about how the devil is a very real thing in HxH since Melody lost her beauty after playing his song??
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
She still has her Beauty. Inside. A LOT. Duh.
@hugon6717
@hugon6717 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Chrollo also mentions Jesus Christ at one point. He talks about how Judas betrayed Him for money iirc.
@hugon6717
@hugon6717 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was neat that Togashi included that information in HxH because I am a believer myself. It makes me question if he is also.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Not so sure if the Devil is really Real.
@nobodynews
@nobodynews 3 жыл бұрын
So you're saying Chrollo could palm Palm's palm?
@totallyjerd1751
@totallyjerd1751 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo probably can't steal the pin button. But we won't know until Togashi starts drawing again...
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
The Question also comes to people's mind if Stolen Abilites are affected by the Nen-Ring in Terms of Efficiency. ...Yeah... surely. The Answer is Yep. I am sure though: Its possible but it 'costs extra' to enhance your Effiency. For a Specialist to steal an Enhancement-Ability and use it at not 40% but 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 or 100 Percent should be possible. But it costs and doesnt naturally come with 'just stealing'. Like Pizza not automatically having Sauce but you sure can have it together anyway.
@chrishouterman4772
@chrishouterman4772 3 жыл бұрын
The format you used for your “The Dressrosa disaster” video would be great to use for other one piece arks, as well as hxh. The way you incorporated the community was really awesome.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty obvious that Specialization-Nen always 'layers above' some other Nen-Category. I mean, we literally see it all the time: Chrollo conjures a book, Kurapika enhances his Nen-Skill itself, and Neon emits an ugly-as-fluff thing. I mean, i really dont understand some peoples misconception that they literally have to learn and incorporate those other Categorys into their Ability. AT LEAST Neon's existence should blow that Idea to pieces, yeah? She's a Nen-Genius; an uncounciouss User - you really wanna tell me she's using THREE Categorys? !
@iiamdav
@iiamdav 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video doing new abilities in a nutshell? Or do a hypothesis on what you think leorios need abilities will be like?
@Marrianno
@Marrianno 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Chrollos ability is realy balanced with all those conditions. He's dangerous but not all powerful
@PhoenixCommander21
@PhoenixCommander21 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone has stated it yet, but something not mentioned in the video, but is at least mentioned in the anime if not the manga, is that Chrollo requires the book to be physically held open in at least one hand for the duration of the ability’s usage. In the case of the desired Hastu requiring both hands to utilize, Chrollo could technically steal it but be physically unable to wield it, since he needs one hand for the bandit’s book
@standground6192
@standground6192 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if victims of Chrollo could relearn their ability or does skill hunter block that?
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a whole other Theory right here; i dont get why people say there is nothing more to Theorize about! XD
@stonefree7973
@stonefree7973 2 жыл бұрын
Skill Hunter blocks it
@halinaqi2194
@halinaqi2194 2 жыл бұрын
@@stonefree7973 can't they learn a new ability?
@CredibleCommenter
@CredibleCommenter 3 жыл бұрын
“I can’t see Chrollo crawling into a corpse to pilot it” Uhhhhhhhhhhh,,,, based on the fact that you have current manga stuff in this vid, you _have_ read Chrollo vs. Hisoka right? He indiscriminately weaponizes the corpses of previously innocent people who were killed only for this purpose, and then Chrollo goes on to say he sees no difference between puppets and humans. Ikalgo’s ability wouldn’t do much for him, but I 100% believe Chrollo would readily enter a corpse with no hesitation if he had a stolen ability that required it.
@kylienielsen6975
@kylienielsen6975 3 жыл бұрын
I think he meant he wouldn't fit
@fleshytrash
@fleshytrash 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylienielsen6975 based
@GumGumNika
@GumGumNika 3 жыл бұрын
I would really love if you went into Tserriednich's ability.
@mudoken1557
@mudoken1557 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the hunter x hunter content. This hiatus is rough
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But he does not cover Fan-made-Hatsu, even though this is a big topic AND ALWAYS hypes up the comment-section wherever its talked about...
@juanhaines7295
@juanhaines7295 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine when kurapika and chrollo Finally fight kurapika will use steal chain to take bandits secrets. Then ironically do him in with all his abilities.
@laquanlucas6953
@laquanlucas6953 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo is tricky opponent kurapika has play it out smart this is game of chess. If they were face off would be interesting battle of wits
@infernorider123
@infernorider123 3 жыл бұрын
It's always nice coming to a neworld vid to witness the cheetu disrespect. You should do a vid about what a smart cheetu could have achieved.
@robot3759
@robot3759 2 жыл бұрын
With Netero's 100 Hand Bodhisattva, while it's almost impossible to see the actual construct, isn't the power that would actually hit the person visible even if for only a brief second and thus assuming he didn't immediately die after being hit with the Chairman's ability, couldn't he steal it that way? Obviously, as shown in the clip of Pitou getting nuked with the Chairman's ability, a bright gold flash of light was visible when she got hit, and all the Hands except Zero have to "physically" hit an opponent, so it isn't just emitted power from the statue, it's the statue itself. Am I missing something here cause I'm confused as to how Chrollo can't, at least in theory, steal the 100 Hand.
@degenrite
@degenrite 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe one of the requirements was to able to see it but perfect plan wasn’t mentioned
@Muffinpurplegurk
@Muffinpurplegurk 3 жыл бұрын
NWR single handily keeping hxh alive in our heart and souls
@theyoungknight.3119
@theyoungknight.3119 3 жыл бұрын
8:20 Humans technically have a tail known as the coccyx so Chrollo would possibly have it connected to that.
@moonstareh3527
@moonstareh3527 3 жыл бұрын
We have tail bones not tails
@FitnessWithRakhi
@FitnessWithRakhi 3 жыл бұрын
A challenge for HXH fans:👀 Chrollo’s a specialist so if he steals gon’s jajenken then would he be able to use it at the same efficiency?? Or if he steals killua’s god speed would he be able toh manipulate his aura into electricity and beat the hell out of youpi???
@bean1728
@bean1728 3 жыл бұрын
Ye
@MrSub132
@MrSub132 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. I would assume he could simply because we've seen him use stolen abilities pretty much exactly like their original wielders. But his aura defence probably always stays at specialist lvl unless he steals an enhancer ability that increases your defence. Another challenge, if Chrollo asks someone if they know or heard about nen, wouldn't that count as "answering a question about nen"? Or is that too much of a hack lmao
@FitnessWithRakhi
@FitnessWithRakhi 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSub132 i think the question should be about the nenability which he wants to steal not generally
@MrSub132
@MrSub132 3 жыл бұрын
@@FitnessWithRakhi hmm that might be right but the wiki does say otherwise
@NeXus49
@NeXus49 Жыл бұрын
Hey, a fascinating question popped into my mind about Tserriednich's ability, what if experiencing the parallel future that you see after Tserriednich deactivates his ability, can be counted as seeing the ability in action. Thus allowing Chrollo to steel it.
@walker1033
@walker1033 3 жыл бұрын
The other thing about Netro's ability is that he has to pray. Using both hands at the same time. Chrollo's power requires him to have the book open and in his left hand at the same time. Unless he uses the bookmark.
@joaogundersen1374
@joaogundersen1374 3 жыл бұрын
Question about the hand print: Isn't it just to touch the hand print? I don't remember if it need to place the hand like the hand print. If it's just touch, the ants are back on the menu
@ishspringer
@ishspringer 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain how some of the obscure nen abilities works? Like Tsubone's abilities for example
@laquanlucas6953
@laquanlucas6953 3 жыл бұрын
Tsubone is conjunction nen user that morph into vehicle. Down side is need to uses of someone else aura as the rider that how ability will active. Tsubone can't use her ablity alone without an rider. She show case two ablity transform into. Motorcycle and a glider. There five more ablity from her we have not seem yet hopefully when the manga ever return.
@ishspringer
@ishspringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@laquanlucas6953 yea ik that stuff from the anime and manga I meant in terms nen attribute and stuff. Also I don't think she's a conjurere it feels more like manipulation to me
@brandonchandlerMGnO
@brandonchandlerMGnO 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishspringer Well, I thought that too at first, but it's explained in the manga that turning your body into something falls under conjuration. That makes sense as conjuration is all about summoning complex items. With manipulation, it would probably be more of a process to transform whereas conjuration is near instant. Or maybe it requires both manipulation and conjuation. Plus, it helps balance the system by making another use for conjuration.
@ishspringer
@ishspringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonchandlerMGnO ohh okay thanks
@JToaster
@JToaster 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 9/10 in the guessing games of videos of yours in the last couple days. It’s kinda scaring me.
@ChronosLawliet123
@ChronosLawliet123 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you have another channel, I'm very very happy of now becoming a part of the NewWorld Association!
@iCyFlaMeZ96
@iCyFlaMeZ96 3 жыл бұрын
How do you come up with video ideas sometimes. This is an interesting one tbqfh
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110 3 жыл бұрын
There are abilities that take more that 1h to completely deploy. I don't think those can be stolen. I'm not sure the video said this. For example, Cheetu's tag takes fractionally more than an hour as the timer starts only after he touches the target but the ability starts already from the touch.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty obvious that Specialization-Nen always 'layers above' some other Nen-Category. I mean, we literally see it all the time: Chrollo conjures a book, Kurapika enhances his Nen-Skill itself, and Neon emits an ugly-as-fluff thing. I mean, i really dont understand some peoples misconception that they literally have to learn and incorporate those other Categorys into their Ability. AT LEAST Neon's existence should blow that Idea to pieces, yeah?
@himi6536
@himi6536 2 жыл бұрын
He has to see the ability. If the other conditions are met within 1 hour of the ability ending, I guarantee it would count as he was still witnessing the ability. He didn't suddenly stop witnessing the ability just because it had been active for a while...he was witnessing it the entire time and therefore the hour started only when the witnessing of the ability stopped.
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110 2 жыл бұрын
​@@himi6536 Witnessing an action is the same as observing it, right? And observing is a ongoing process. So the whole process of witnessing the ability must be completed in an hour in my opinion.
@himi6536
@himi6536 2 жыл бұрын
@@anaccountmusthaveaname9110 That doesn't make any sense, though...then the hour would just restart immediately, essentially making the end result exactly as I've said.
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110 2 жыл бұрын
@@himi6536 No it wouldn't, because the latter hour would not include the whole of observing the ability Chrollo would wish to steal.
@drunkduck9854
@drunkduck9854 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of your best videos, fun discussion and hilarious commentary
@rodrigorubio8545
@rodrigorubio8545 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you editor-kun, I needed that puppy :3
@silverswish100
@silverswish100 3 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome :)
@natenatenate10
@natenatenate10 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of assumptions here :O. He may very well have a different set of criteria for creatures who aren't humanoid.
@hiccup6598
@hiccup6598 3 жыл бұрын
LIAM! MY GUY THIS ISNT COOL! I shouldnt randomly stumble across your other youtube channel!!! You need to advertise this on your grandline channel more so people like me know it exsist!!!
@KatherinaBathory
@KatherinaBathory 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, in terms of spelling, we (in Latin America) only had the pronunciation to go by so we grew up writing Kuroro. It was only when I grew-up and internet fandom became a thing that I learnt it was supposed to be Chrollo...
@TheMangakid1995
@TheMangakid1995 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly Neon didn't actually understand that she had a nen agility. She just thought she was psychic right? So then for Skill Hunter asking someone general questions about their ability like Chrollo did to gain info about Ghost Writter counts as asking about Nen. By that logic wouldn't Chrollo asking Komugi questions about how she plays Gungi potentially count as "Asking about her a question about nen"?
@vince1987
@vince1987 3 жыл бұрын
He can steal Basho's but it wouldn't be useful to him. He's not bad at writing poetry.lol
@koshersenpaiii3293
@koshersenpaiii3293 3 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s a link. poetry.lol
@moonstareh3527
@moonstareh3527 3 жыл бұрын
Lol the link works
@JTAEKOOK4EVRR
@JTAEKOOK4EVRR 3 жыл бұрын
What if we get introduced to more of the kurta clan at the dark continent and since they stayed on the continent they are much stronger than the regular kurtas. Maybe they can do more stuff with there scarlet eyes. Also I wonder if we will get introduced to a new power system similar to nen or a stronger version of nen when we reach the dark continent in 3000 years
@itsthatgiwennnikka3281
@itsthatgiwennnikka3281 3 жыл бұрын
Bro😨😳
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
I acutallty had a Theory a while back, that this Type is mis-named and should actually be the 'Absorption-Type'. Hear me out: It started with me thinking about Neon Lestrade and the fact she had a Poetry-Ability without knowing or even caring about 'Deep Stuff', let alone 'Poetry'. I started wondering and comparing all the Specialists we know of. And they all possibly absorb Knowledge to get their Ability working?! I noticed that all the Specialist-User-Things can be explained with this. Pitou literally shows us the Medical Books she read; so the Ability could take the Knowledge out of her and/or of the Books still lying around!
@annedrieck7316
@annedrieck7316 2 жыл бұрын
I hope kyrta is a tribe of people that are native in human world. Dark continent already had its fair share of interesting thing.
@JTAEKOOK4EVRR
@JTAEKOOK4EVRR 2 жыл бұрын
@@annedrieck7316 I just hope hunter x hunter will get off hiatus before I die
@flexcrazyfun5109
@flexcrazyfun5109 3 жыл бұрын
Over-powered? Are we talking about the same show? This series has so many checks and balances we don't even have a protagonist anymore! We've sacrificed a whole shonen anime for some guy's artistic choices!!!
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. Thats how HxH is.
@josiahlikestodance
@josiahlikestodance 5 ай бұрын
Whenever I read the manga and come to Mizaistom’s perspective, it always feels like a murder mystery type story and I love how the story can feel so differently depending on the perspective presented to us. This alone is one of the many reasons that this is my favorite manga
@Dave004
@Dave004 3 жыл бұрын
Illumi vs Hisoka, who would win? I've only seen the anime and I know at one part Hisoka threatens Illumi for him wanting to attack Gon and Illumi later threatens Hisoka for wanting to attack Killua. So who do people think would actually win if they did battle?
@himi6536
@himi6536 2 жыл бұрын
In a pure 1v1, Illumi stands no chance. Illumi needs people to sacrifice in order to fight well, especially against other nen users. Add on to that the fact that Illumi is mostly experienced in killing people that don't use nen and I don't think he would have any good chance of winning. Now, if they started the fight in a crowd of people...then I don't think Hisoka would stand any amount of a chance. The assassin abilities themselves aren't very strong to experienced nen users.
@pilisjose
@pilisjose 3 жыл бұрын
'That is not a nen ability, that is a sex crime' I almost die laughing XD
@marceloasensiofilho3833
@marceloasensiofilho3833 Ай бұрын
Franklyn's hatsu has the fact that his finger tips being cut off is a requirement. Pretty sure he would not be able to use it
@WW-ue3oy
@WW-ue3oy 8 күн бұрын
It’s not a requirement. Togashi just said Franklin believes it would be more effective that’s why he cut it off
@SupermanTeemo
@SupermanTeemo Жыл бұрын
You missed the opportunity to bring Palm into the conversation when talking about having to touch the book with your palm lol
@Giant2005
@Giant2005 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the obvious! The Nen Abilities Chrollo cannot steal also include those of the dead characters.
@joaofelipesiqueira21
@joaofelipesiqueira21 3 жыл бұрын
video ideia: smartest characters in HxH
@flickersense
@flickersense 3 жыл бұрын
Chrollo also can't steal Meleoron's nen ability, because Meleoron becomes invisible when using it, so there is no way for Chrollo to witness that ability with his own eyes. That is unless Meleoron goes invisible together with Chrollo, in which case Chrollo _might_ be able to steal it.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty obvious that Specialization-Nen always 'layers above' some other Nen-Category. I mean, we literally see it all the time: Chrollo conjures a book, Kurapika enhances his Nen-Skill itself, and Neon emits an ugly-as-fluff thing. I mean, i really dont understand some peoples misconception that they literally have to learn and incorporate those other Categorys into their Ability. AT LEAST Neon's existence should blow that Idea to pieces, yeah? She's a Nen-Genius; an uncounciouss User - you really wanna tell me she's using THREE Categorys? Haha, no. She's not.
@csayumi
@csayumi 2 жыл бұрын
When you said "palm" so many times, I just thought you would use an image of Palm for the pun 😂
@mrbobjackpeanutbutter
@mrbobjackpeanutbutter 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE THE HXH CONTENT, THATS A LIKE!
@wesleyvl8572
@wesleyvl8572 3 жыл бұрын
A other good vidoe dude keep it up you rock i mis hunter x hunter
@TheWarden04
@TheWarden04 4 ай бұрын
Him stealing Melody's power seems like it could be such a funny moment, Chrollo in a last ditch effort begins singing into a microphone, or picks up a harmonica and beings tooting away
@brandonchandlerMGnO
@brandonchandlerMGnO 3 жыл бұрын
Unless Chrollo also takes an, or just develops his own, ability to grow a tail, then he could use Pitou's ability. This is fun to think about. Also, Double Face was a really cool aspect of the manga (just wanted to add that).
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Theory, but just the Theory, that the Specialization-Type is actually and secretly the 'Absorption-Type'.
@danielelaudaz8551
@danielelaudaz8551 Жыл бұрын
He could use his dong
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 3 жыл бұрын
Don't katakana have really straight forward conversions? How can such abominations happen?
@greablood1072
@greablood1072 2 жыл бұрын
“So, you subscribed?” “Yeah, I lost a bet”
@kyrianyao4420
@kyrianyao4420 3 жыл бұрын
Chibi Chrollo certainly stole my heart
@DR490N9
@DR490N9 3 жыл бұрын
cant Chrollo literally just ask " what do you know about nen" isnt that a nen question?
@Kev-D-OG
@Kev-D-OG 3 жыл бұрын
Shocked I never subbed to this channel by this point. Gotta continue preaching the word of Togashi!
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
The Question also comes to people's mind if Stolen Abilites are affected by the Nen-Ring in Terms of Efficiency. ...Yeah... surely. The Answer is Yep. I am sure though: Its possible but it 'costs extra' to enhance your Effiency. For a Specialist to steal an Enhancement-Ability and use it at not 40% but 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 or 100 Percent should be possible. But it costs and doesnt naturally come with 'just stealing'. Like Pizza not automatically having Sauce but you sure can have it together anyway.
@abelingaw5070
@abelingaw5070 3 ай бұрын
Chrollo: I have to fulfill 5 conditions to be able to steal someone's hatsu Ging: Noob 😂😂😂😂😂
@tnvmadhav2442
@tnvmadhav2442 3 жыл бұрын
Any appendage could technically summon Doctor Blythe
@flameskyyuni
@flameskyyuni 3 жыл бұрын
I find Togashi's writing style tends to be very sophisticated and elaborate, filled with layers of themes, motifs, narrative structure with an expanding and dynamic cast. Togashi wants us the see the world from Gon viewpoint, putting the viewer in the headspace of the character make the viewer more connected to the character and he does an intriguing thing with it, for instance, he is not afraid to break the pacing of a story, to shift the point of opinion between characters creating tone shifts or not giving a satisfying narrative ending solely to put us in the character shoes, this manner of writing is not very traditional because its characteristic regarding bad writing and it can take the vier out of the story but Togashii is doing it completely intentional and it's utilizing it to enrich his characters and story. When we are introduced to the main four characters we are immediately told what their desire is, what drives them but we are lied to, or more precisely they lied to themselves, their wants are not what they genuinely desire. Let's take a look at Gon and Killua and what motivates them, one wants to meet his father the other one want to run away from his family, immediately we have a theme that correlates the two of them, that being the issue of the family(i will talk more about this letter), and you think where is this going well let me ask a question when they finish their goals, Killua being free from his family and gon finding Ging more precisely didn't that fell a little empty in detriment to how much build-up was settled into it, like something is missing, let's put a pin on that and look at Kurapika and Leorio next. One wants to avenge his clan and the other wants to become a doctor there is no similarity, no theme connecting them right, well there is a theme for them although we need to look from a different perspective, let's begin with why they begin their journey, Kurapika originally started it for his friend pairo who needed a doctor but died in the massacre and Leorio who wants to become a doctor because he couldn't save his friend, now we have a theme linking both of their wants for saving and protecting their friend but being incapable to do so also how they react in the face their trauma because of that. And we see again that both of them want to be nothing met but in a very unfinished way. We don't see Leorio journey to become a doctor and neither does Kurapika fulfilling his revenge. And that is by design, but why will someone write a character whose motivation has so much build-up only to be without a payoff? Well, it's easy since the characters feel this way. They don't feel satisfaction in finishing their goals because it was not what they want, and the narrative is reflecting this reinforcing the idea that we will see and feel only what the character truly fills. I will put a pin in this too and we will come back to discuss what they want. Now let's discuss the arcs and how they are developed, I'm a fan of the mirror theory, but never find one that feels correct for my opinion, for people who don't know, the mirror arc is a theory that state that we have a setup arc and the reverse or mirror: • hunter exam arc(only gon and killua) -chimera ant arc • zoldyck family arc-Hunter Chairman Election Arc(only killua part) • Heavens Arena Arc-Greed Island Arc • york new city arc-succession contest arc • Hunter Chairman Election Arc(leorio part)-dark continent expedition arc • hunter exam arc(everyone)-meteor city arc(this is my speculation but I will explain later why I think that) I am convinced of this theory because of how much proof we have, from narrative mirroring to thematic ones, characters appearing only in the specific arcs that reflect each other how the arcs are structured, and a lot more, but it will be more clearer if I just start showing you how they reflect. Even the title card of this show supports this by being a mirror of himself. And that is by design, but why would someone write a character whose motivation has so much build-up only to be without pay off, well it's easy since the characters feel this way. They don't feel satisfaction in finishing their goals because it was not what they want, and the narrative is reflecting this reinforcing the idea that we will see and feel only what the character truly fills. I will put a pin in this too and we will come back letter discussing what they want. Now let's discuss the arcs and how they are developed, I'm a fan of the mirror theory, but never find one that feels correct for my opinion, for people who don't know, the mirror arc is a theory that state that we have a setup arc and the reverse or mirror: • hunter exam arc(only gon and killua) -chimera ant arc • zoldyck family arc-Hunter Chairman Election Arc(only killua part) • Heavens Arena Arc-Greed Island Arc • york new city arc-succession contest arc • Hunter Chairman Election Arc(leorio part)-dark continent expedition arc • hunter exam arc(everyone)-meteor city arc(this is my speculation but I will explain later why I think that) I am convinced of this theory because of how much proof we have, from narrative mirroring to thematic ones, characters appearing only in the specific arcs that reflect each other how the arcs are structured, and a lot more, but it will be more clearer if I just start showing you how they reflect. Even the title card of this show supports this by being a mirroring of himself.
@flameskyyuni
@flameskyyuni 3 жыл бұрын
Hunter exam arc(only gon and killua) -chimera ant arc First, let's begin with the hunter exam arc and why I think it mirrors the chimera ant arc. Both arcs reflect each other narratively and thematically, first, we are reintroduced to elements that we only see in the first arc: like Kite, Pokkle, Ponzu, and Netero (it's no coincidence that Meruem and Netero fight mirror the game Netero and Gon compete in the hunter exam arc) and also the Hunter Association that didn't get a critical role in the story besides the initial arc until now. Now let's talk about the themes and the core of these two arcs, both of them have the same theme,killua and gon relationship and the deconstruction of it. Here we have some parallels between these characters • www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/bdsgfy/some_gonmeruem_parallels_i_noticed/ • www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/80e0pp/chimera_ant_arc_parallel_and_contrast/ • www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/4680xv/characters_similitude_killua_and_pitou/ • aspoonofsugar.tumblr.com/post/189478514722/do-you-think-there-are-parallels-that-can-be-drawn • kittytalkshxh.tumblr.com/post/121215532938/fonbella-therealgonzoldyck-has-anyone-ever • Gon|Meruem • Pitou|Killua • Komugi and Meruem|Gon, and Killua relationship • Kite|physical representation of Gon goals of finding his father Let me demonstrate why I think these 5 characters have these parallels, first, let's take Gon, he is a character who was presented as a very static character throughout the show until the chimera ant arc, where he undergoes a character shift, except the truth is that Gon didn't develop, the Gon we know from the very first arc is the same with the one in the chimera ant arc. Throughout the story, we are shown multiple red flags for Gon from recurring moments of him being selfish, close-minded, or stubborn, we are suggested numerous times that he is a double-edged sword, he even is punished by the narrative each time he is reckless and selfish with the theme of him hurting his arm. Gon as a character is at his core a shonen protagonist, the typical shounen protagonist is innocent, simple, and has a never-give-up attitude. He is not afraid to rush into a fight and stand up for what’s right in his eyes and Gon encapsulates everything a shonen protagonist is only to deconstruct it in the narrative. How I said, in the beginning, HxH has a narrative dissidence and is purposely written that way, Gon being a static character that also embodies the classic Shounen protagonist where the story is shown from the pink-colored glasses that is Gon perspective only to be taken away in this arc and all these red flags to appear all at once, of course, it will feel as if Gon change radically when in reality he didn't and that is why the narrative is punishing Gon, and we know because the theme of him losing his arm appear again in his fight with Pitou and after his metaphorical death Gon steps to be a protagonist at the moment. Meruem is the perfect foil for Gon, he started in the same position as Gon in the first arc, he leaves his mother to fulfill his fate with the help of his 3 companions. Meruem have the same viewpoint of the world as Gon, from a very childlike view, only to meet Komugi, it's no coincidence that both of them are green(the king and gon) AND white(komugi and killua)but the difference is that meruem develop from this relationship with Komugi and become a better person because of it but Gon didn't, he is stuck in the shonen archetype incapable of change. In a shonen story, Gon will be rewarded for his traits, his stubbornness, his view of the world but in hxh that is reflected upon and even punish if necessary where we are taken from his perspective to a more neutral perspective(the narrator) revealing to us that the world is more complex than gon perceives it and that is why Meruem is trying to find his own identity outside of what the world told him he should be and is rewarded but Gon choosing his quest stops him from developing as a person and he is narratively punished because of it. Let's talk about Kite and what his thematic role in the story is. Both times kite is introduced to the story is throw the lens of Gon, who perceives Kite from his relationship with Ging, Kite is the only person who tried to find Ging and succeed making him a perfect representation for gon mission of finding Ging. Kite is the reason Gon's journey starts and also he is the final step in finding his dad. That what we expect, but hxh is a deconstruction of the genre, but killing Kite symbolically setting up two things: 1.Symoblicaly showing the viewer that Gon Journey is finished, or it will finish prematurely, without a real catharsis. 2. Gon's biggest character flaw being hypocrisy and commenting on the nature of the morality of the shounen protagonist. Let's talk about Kite and what his thematic role in the story is. Both times Kite is introduced to the story is through the lens of Gon, who perceives Kite from his relationship with Ging, Kite is the only person who tried to find Ging and succeed making him a perfect representation for Gon's mission of finding Ging. Kite is the reason Gon's journey starts and also he is the final step in finding his dad. That what we expect, but hxh is a deconstruction of the genre, but killing Kite symbolically setting up two things: • Symbolically showing the viewer that Gon Journey is finished, or it will finish prematurely, without a real catharsis. • Gon's biggest character flaw is hypocrisy and commenting on the nature of the morality of the shounen protagonist. It's essential to note that Kite's death is a crossroads for Gon as a character, including where his story will go onwards. My favorite part about Gon descent in chimera ant arc is about how many layers it has, one of them is about the critique of the shounen genre and the shounen protagonist as well. Gon during the series meet these specific circumstances time and time again, and every time he chose to be compassionate(the trick tower, the haven arena, the spiders,genthru), his battle toward Pitou it's his concluding test before he achieves his quest, and pitou being his final enemy and not merruem it's very important thematically. Before we continue we need to talk about Pitou and his foil with killua. Not only killua was multiple times in the show associated with a cat but also they have the same character arc, during the chimera ant arc, both are introduced as ruthless and cold-blooded killers, who develop because of their affection for Gon and Merruem respectively. • www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/4680xv/characters_similitude_killua_and_pitou/ Killua character arc is at his peak during this arc, he struggles between saving Gon and keeping his promises to his dad that he will never let his friend down versus his assassin nature that dictates to run when he sees danger, but here is the thing, these dilemmas that killua face feels force and unnatural because it is,killua, again and again, save Gon from dire circumstances even if his life was on the line(Sadou, Nobunaga or in the game with Razor all fights where killua was prepared to get hurt or die for Gon sake)and when the motif come back again in CAA we know that killua faced these struggles already and succeeded putting in the question the validity of killua fear of abandoning his friend and more into the synthetic detail in his despair, foreshadowing that killua fear was fabricated and manipulated by his family, and him taking the needle from his head is literally and metaphorically taking his family influence on him out of his head ,that being the final step in liberating himself from the life of an assassin and keeping his promis to his father . And I want to also point out when Killua runs for Gon it was the first time in the series that we heard his steps something that melody mention how silent they are and how only assassins can do, implying that killua was still under the influence of his family and now he is free, mirroring killua from the first arc who wanted to be free but falling into his habits as an assassin. Pitou introduction in the story is similar to Killua who in the first arc killed someone in cold blood just because they can and both time Gon was present, the difference consists in who Gon considers important, and by Pitou mirroring Killua its show the hypocrisy of Gon morality, even more, showing us that thematically Gon chose his ends before killua, something we are shown in the series before. Killua arc. Komugi and killua are very similar in the context of their relationship with Gon and Meurem respectively, they even have the same motif of "Do I deserve to be so happy? I'm good at one thing and nothing else. So many wonderful things... I don't deserve 'em." vs "Gon... you are light itself. Sometimes you're too bright and I can't look at you... But can I still stay by your side...?," doubting themself to be enough, both of them had a rough childhood and find meaning in the relationship with Gon and Merruem respectively, to the point that both of them undervalue their own lives,komugi dies the same way killua intended with Gon, the difference is both komugi and Meruem because they chose one another over the rest but Gon didn't, gon chose his revenge over killua. Their relationship even if is wholesome is also shown to be toxic for both,killua is attached to gon and even enable his bad behavior even if it hurts him, and gon because he can always fall on killua for support doesn't grow, and it's no surprise when they have to separate even if it hurts, they both need to grow separately from each other and will probably meet again when both of them will be ready to.
@flameskyyuni
@flameskyyuni 3 жыл бұрын
Zoldick family arc-Hunter Chairman Election Arc(only killua part) These two arcs are a direct continuation of the previous one if the first one represents the start of their relationship and the beginning of their adventure together and the latter two are the conclusion of their relationship and the start of a new journey. The zoldyck family and the Hunter election arcs have themes about family relationships and new beginnings. Both arcs start very similarly, Gon is injured in the previous arc and Killua goes home. If Gon protects Killua from his family in the election arc we see the same situations mirroring each other, with Killua taking the role of the savior. And it does that by imitating the events of the after mention arc and mirroring them display the evolution of Killua as a character. We even get the light motif of specific characters appearing only in arcs that are reflections of each other, (the entire zoldyck family, the zoldyck servants, Canary and Gotoh enforcing the idea that these two arcs are connected. This arc is a more Killua centric one so we should talk about it first. Killua was introduced in the story with the motivation that he wants to escape his family, to kill them even which is a foil to Gon motivation to find his father, that making these two-character be connected by the theme of family, is necessary to remark that neither of them gets what they want more correct is that both of them get the exact reverse. Killua is the first character from the main four who fail his want", In the election arc, the one who runs after killua is not silva but illumi. Silva and Killua have a very complex relationship throughout the series, in the zoldyck mansion arc Silva is the reason Killua starts the journey, "We're father and son, but there hasn't been a lot of meaning in that. I was raised by my parents to be an assassin, and I believed that was how I should raise you. But you're no mere extension of me. The day you... left, I finally realized that while you're my son, you're also your person. With your path to follow. Perhaps, in time, it will lead you back here. All right? So I'll ask again... would you like to see your friends?" this is important to mention because it's showing us that killua arc will be about breaking their family intergenerational trauma. Killua struggles through the story between his friends and assassin nature, and if he fails his promise to his father he fails in breaking the circle of abuse, the only time we hear his footsteps is when he is running to save Gon representing killua finally letting go of the assassin aspect of his character and fulfilling his promise. • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hruHqbZzr7TUdoE.html • kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acyjaNadldmveX0.html These two mirroring scenes have the role to show killua is breaking the cycle, he kept his promise and renounce the assassin mentality, Illumi being the one who follows killua thematically. is Ilumii the one who can't let go of Killua and what he represented, only to be sent home when he caught him repeating the scene in the first arc where illumi is sending home Killua. I also want to note that killua is giving Ilumii the opportunity that he was given in the zoldyck family arc by doing that Killua character arc ends with saving Gon the same way he was saved. Killua being able to escape his assassin mentality and reunite with Alluka, starting their journey is showing us that Killua never wanted to run from the family contrary he wanted to have a connection with them. What he was running was the family business, something he was expected to be even against his choice. Now let's talk about Gon, this arc is the perfect one for him to finish his quest on finding his father. I talked before about how Gon personal failures will cost him his hunt for Ging, and in this arc we see it becoming real, Gon didn't succeed in finding Ging is the other way around Ging just let a note where to find him and that it, the entire search finish so anticlimactic. I talked before about how the narrative will reflect the character feeling, and this is one of them, Gon fills out of character meeting Ging like this, is not earned, we see Gon throughout the story complicating things because he wants to do it his way, the right way but not now and this is why I think it mean: • Gon is maturing, his innocence died in the fight with Pitou, his child persona died for him to be reborn as a teen, he is finally ready to start growing as a person, and that is why he needs to let go of killua as well and develop who he is as a person. • Like Killua, Gon also hasn't finished his goal because it wasn't what he wanted, Gon didn't want to hunt for Ging it's the opposite, Ging wanted Gon to hunt him and become a hunter, throughout the series we are given clues as that being the case, from kite coming to whale island and inspire Gon to become a hunter, he left gon the clues to search the greed island, or how the game is designed to train to imply it was made for Gon to train and become stronger, and I find it important to mention that like Silva, Ging as well needed to let go ok Gon and let him choose his path and this arc mirroring these events foreshadow that Gon like Killua will find his want. I talked about how Kite represents Gon's search for Ging and the next time we see Kite we can't see him like that anymore, and similar to Gon that symbolic meaning is dead but we have a new version of him, and we can interpret that Gon stopped his hunt and he is ready to start a new journey. In conclusion, these two arcs encapsulate the themes of family, a theme that runs deep in both Killua and Gon, both start their journey with a misguided want, Killua start by running from his family and Gon searching for his dad, we know that this isn't the truth, they just wanted a connection with their family without the expectation of their father and who they should be, that is why when they never get what they want in a fulfilling way, they were both set up to failure to the beginning and only when they fathers talk to them and liberated them of their expectation both Gon and Killua can start their journey. I also want to note how in the end only Gon and Killua are ready to start a new chapter in their life, Leorio and Kurapika are not present implying that they still have to work on their wants and maybe we will see a mirroring similar to Gon and Killua in the future. Heaven's Arena Arc-Greed Island Arc these two arcs are the easiest to analyze, possessing more obvious mirroring and fewer themes. Both arcs are in essence training arcs that have the role of explaining the power system, showing us the of training Gon and Killua and their development, exploring their character dynamic, and foreshadowing their inevitable fallout. Both arcs follow Gon and Killua training in a designed place that doesn't follow the rules of the real world, both heaven arena and greed island act as a safer place for training, not in the sense that there are not in danger but more in the idea that they will not suffer real-life consequences for their action, and like Hisoka stated after fighting gon their next fight will be in the "Real World" and wee see that when the arc is mirroring that Hisoka and gon don't get to fight each other but together in a place that the rules of the "Real World" apply. The arcs continue with both Gon and Killua fighting alone until they face an obstruction where a mentor figure appears and helps them overcome the situation and become stronger by training them, both mentors knowing each other and showcasing the growth of the main characters, both commenting on their potential and Gon threatening nature. Both arcs conclude with two battles, one against a trio of antagonists that have the role of exhibiting the rapid growth that Gon and Killua went through and one where Hisoka is a participant. I would like to talk about Hisoka and Gon's relationship throughout the series, especially these two arcs. Hisoka and Gon are foils to each other in a sense, one where Hisoka takes the role of a mentor figure throughout the series and Gon taking the role of the protege. At the beginning of the series, Hisoka is presented as Gon's dark self, someone that represents Gon's destructive and ruthless nature that is subtly shown in the hunter exam arc, furthermore as the series progresses their dynamic changes, from enemies to allies. Gon in the heaven arena fights Hisoka as an enemy(his dark self) but loses. This scene has two important setups: • To showcase the, especially the difference in power and experience and Gon's stubbornness and rapid growth that Hisoka takes interest in. • thematically showing us that Gon fails to win against his dark self their last fight in Greed island where they allay together have the role of presenting to us how much Gon morality decline to the point that he doesn't fight his shadow but fight beside it and we see his descent into darkness through the series, culminating in the chimera ant arc. The arc concludes with Gon and Killua finding a clue that gets them closer to finding Ging but getting trapped in a conflict that shouldn't involve them but their friend's life is on the line pushing them more in the darkness.
@flameskyyuni
@flameskyyuni 3 жыл бұрын
york new city arc-succession contest arc Now we get into a little bit of a predicament because from now on one the material is not Finnish but it is here where I think applying this theory can help us the most in predicting the future of this arc and how will it end. The succession contest arc proves to be a very heavy one with lots of new characters and subplots and at this point, the story can go in a multitude of directions but one thing is for sure, it will not end predictably but I will do my best. I will start with the elements that are repeating in this arc, more precisely the story dynamics between kurapika, the phantom troupe, and the mafia. The story is set mirroring the york new city arc with kurapika as a bodyguard for a girl on the request of his father that put their wants before their kids, a collector of scarlet eyes and the commodification of humans for the rich, the phantom troupe wanting to steal from them, a subplot of revenge, and Hisoka being a wild card and puppeteering things from the shadow for his own needs but we also have some dynamics that oppose these arcs like chrollo is the one more emotional and wants revenge and kurapika is the more cold and rational that wants to take the eyes and the mafia that idolize the phantom troupe. We even get to resee characters specific for the york new arc-like Melody Basho and Izunavi and if we know something about characters that appear in specific arcs from previous arcs is that some of them will die. In the opposite spectrum, we have characters like Leorio, the zodiacs,netero beyond, Ging, and Pariston who I don't think will have an important role in these arcs and are setups for the next arc that parallel the election arc. (I think they will have some scenes here and there but will not drive the plot in a significant way). Now that we conclude this part I want to talk about the themes of these arcs, and why the focus will be on kurapika, the spiders, the mafia, and the princess. Both arcs have that underlying theme of class, privilege, and power, commenting on the class system, justice, and the futility of revenge and a lot of religious motifs and symbolism that reinforce the themes even harder. First, I will start discussing the main characters of these arcs, the spiders and kurapika, what their themes and motifs are, and how th, ey reinforce the themes of the arcs. I will begin with chrollo and his identity issues because I believe that is the most misunderstood character, The truth is that not only chrollo has an identity issue, is the entire troupe, is in the name, the phantom troupe, a troupe made of phantoms, people who shouldn't exist, and that is because they were from meteor city, a place that legally doesn't exist and neither should they. In the show, Meteor City is a junkyard city inhabited by outcasts. People who live there do not exist in any official records and the existence of the city itself is known to very few. Meteor city in cannon is depicted as an underprivileged group, they are thrown out by society and taken back to be exploited when is convenient, we see it with the Zoldicks who took people to work as servants or the mafia who use people to do crimes and even if they escape from meteor city and try to integrate into society they cant, and we know that because of the trump incident. you can read about it here: hunterxhunter.fandom.com/wiki/Meteor_City The hxh narrative is implying that the lack of identity for the meteor city is not a philosophical but a physical one, without identity they can not be equal, are not given any rights, and are completely dehumanized and ostracized by the society at large, what choice they have is either they remain in the garbage-infected city, get outside and suffer prejudice, or be utilized by the mafia as objects for crimes. Without an identity, they can never be accepted in society and live a normal life. The Phantom troupe identity issues become more than discover who they are and more about fighting the system that put them down is no coincidence that a lot of phantom members as coded as different underprivileged groups, Shizuku and Machi have abilities that are very females works and use them as powers, Uvogin is coded as black, Nobunaga and Phinks as poor, Feitan has a speech impediment and is short, Kortopi is coded as a child and whos abilities are making fake copies"child labor" etc. And Togashi wants us to see the spiders in this light because they are shown to stay in poor condition, always at the bottom of the society in contrast with the mafia or the princess who is always shown with luxury and opulence even to the point of overindulgence. But what about chrollo identity issue, Chrollo struggle between his love for his friends and his role as a leader, the only time he genuinely shows his emotions are always outside the troupes where his members don't see him, one example is when he cried when he read about uvo dead, but when he is with the troupe he needs to put a facade for the troupe and that can be seen in the scene where they finish the mission, Nobunaga still want to avenge uvo but chrollo stopped him not because he doesn't share his feelings of revenge but because doing so will put the troupe in danger, and even in the text this element is call out, Nobunagaevan said to chrollo I don't want to talk to the boss I want to talk with chrollo, implying that they are differences between chrollo as a person and chrollo as the boss. We even see that dynamic in his foil kurapika who struggles as well between his role as an avenger and between his love for his friends. So does chrollo have an identity problem, well yes but not in the way we know, but to understand his character we need to analyze his religious themes and his clear mirroring of kurapika. Chrollo wasn't born with an identity so is okay to assume that he probably chose the name Lucilfer for himself, but why this name, well Lucifer was a fallen angel who defied God and was sent to hell, Gods in hxh are always associated with people in power Netero, Meruem, and the royal guards or the king of taking and the princess, but the hell and devils messenger(the kurta tribe was described as such by the outsiders) are associated with underprivileged groups, and I think this association is not about good vs bad but power dynamic, Gods have the powers and the people of the bottom are demonized, and I believe his name is more a declaration of rebellion against the status quo, against the people on power who ignore their problem and treat them as nonexisting and I think this reading is correct because of the other religious symbolism chrollo have the Jesus one, you can read that in two ways: • If Chrollo is Jesus and the Phantom troupe is the apostles then this can be read-only together they get any form of godhood, and if godhood is read in the story as power, this can be read-only together they get the power to get their voices heard in the society. • Also, another reading can be chrollo as a Jesus figure, someone who is cast from heaven to save the souls of the damned(without identity) that rest in hell(Meteor City), and I think both reading are correct for chrollo, but what about the reverse cross, is it demonic or is the saint peter cross, well both, it can be read as both and both are correct, one can be read as a rejection of God(people in power who control society)but also as saint peter cross that represents him as unworthy of being crucified in the same manner as Jesus, and that and we see that happening in the text when he's capture by kurapika, he chose to die over the spider believing that his life has no inherent merit over the other members "Together, we are the Spider. I'm its head, and you're the legs. The legs do what the head says. But there will be times when the legs are more important than the head. If I die, someone else will take over. My orders are of utmost priority. My life is not. Be sure to make the right decision. I'm only a part of the spider. What's important is the survival of the whole, not the individual." and what is interesting is the juxtaposition between the lucifer element of pride versus the saint peter cross representing modesty, I want to mention Chrollo character designed that reinforce this theme of a Jesus figure, first we have the nails in his shoes and clothes, the sun and moon ability on his hands and the reverse cross on the back that is associated with the martyrdom The symbol originates from the Catholic tradition that when sentenced to death, Peter requested that his cross be upside down, as he felt unworthy of being crucified in the same manner as Jesus. , we can interpret that as him viewing himself not as a savior but the entity of the spider-like one, the only thing that chrollo finds pride in.
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@flameskyyuni 3 жыл бұрын
To understand his character we need to talk about kurapika religious symbols and themes as well because they are connected to chrollo as well, they are foils so if you want to understand one you need to understand the other as well. Kurapika religious motif is very similar in a way with chrollo, first one is the ''agents of the devil'' an identity put by the outsider for the kurta clan, putting a minority group in a position of dehumanization, reinforcing the idea that underprivileged groups are connected with these demonic elements like (hell, demons, monsters). 2.the motif on half-angel in the prediction should be read more literal, not in angel as a good person but more as in angel who is servant to god, and in the text of hxh gods are always associated with people in power, kurapika is a bodyguard for people in power in both arcs that he appears. But when we look in contrast with chrollo who has the motif of a fallen angel we can see that both are identities that are chosen by themselves,kurapika wants to protect the status quo and chrollo wants anarchy and to dismantle the social order. 3.Is his weird connection that the narrative is putting kurapika with the virgin mary, the statues paper twice in the show, one in chimera ant arc in relationship with colt Reina and his mother creating a connection between this element and motherhood and then coming back in kurapika altar twice and what it may represent, from foreshadowing him as a future guardian of wobble, the manga allude about it with oito and wobble as virgin mary and Jesus, and how kurapika is again in the position of the angel(the guardian) and we also have the holy spirit(wobble men beast), but if we want to take it a step further it may represent kurapika taking the role of the virgin mary(in case that oito die kurapika may have them take the role of "mother" for wobble ,and i use the term mother in the context of the themes and motifs in the show because motherhood is associated in the text itself with aunt mito,kikyo ant queen and oito as self sacrificial and parental in contrast with the theme of fatherhood that represent a more self serving love that we see in Ging,Silva,Light and the King of Kakin, ). 4., In the end, about the Jesus symbolism that we find in kurapika and what it means in correlation with the theme that this symbol has in the text and its meaning. First, we have his mirroring with chrollo and how they share the same motif of sacrificing their personhood in favor of their people but also the religious motif of kurapika nen, especially his steal chain that have the motif of the cross that when in used is reversing how it ties together with him being a metaphorical spider and possible foreshadowing for kurapika betraying the Gods (people in power) and the and also the dolphin represents Jesus. It acts as an analog for his crucifixion upon the cross. In this way, for Christians, Jesus Christ is the anchor of their faith but also Dolphins are both a symbol of love and healing. ... Therefore, dolphins have a spiritual connection to the idea of not only life and death but spiritual renewal and rebirth as well. 1.From the beginning kurapika was presented as a character that is inclined to justice even his nen ability reflect that disposition and how 3 of his ability act as a system of justice in contradiction with the last 2 who are more religious in tone and even a contradiction with the first 3 not only foreshadowing kurapika morally declining. aspoonofsugar.tumblr.com/post/175817274942/how-do-you-feel-about-kurapika-as-a-character-and here is a wonderful analysis of kurapika as a character that delve dipper. aspoonofsugar.tumblr.com/post/172927292217/nen-and-characters-kurapika-and-chrollo and here you can read more about kurapika chain meaning. 2.But when he is contrasting with his two foils Leorio and Chrollo we get to see a better picture of his nature. Evan in their introduction leorio is presented as greedy and kurapika as an advocate for justice but with the progression of the story we see the role reversing Leorio greed come from a place of caring and wanting to make a change in the system a motif that comes later in the election arc and kurapika justice come from a place of revenge and even if both of them started their journey from a similar place(helping a friend that needed medical help, but dying in the end and how their death affected them and their goals)they both sharing the theme of social injustices and how they cope with their trauma but in opposite ways, and similar to Gon and Killua who share the same themes in different ways but were not honest with their wants, thematically failing only to reverse them so I presume will occur with Leorio and Kurapika where both of them will thematically fail their wants because not only is not what they need deep down but also their character flows will stop them from achieving that(leorio wanted to become a doctor to save people ,and we see throughout the story his inability to save his friends and only offering them support or kurapika who wants revenge on the spiders or collecting the eyes of his brethren)and their character arcs will reverse where kurapika will be in the position of saver (prince wabble is a prime candidate for that )vs leorio where he will finish his character arc in the position of avanager and bringer of justice something i believe is foreshadow in the first arc of the hxh in the trick tower where kurapika is incapable to finish his fight and leorio finish it .
@flameskyyuni
@flameskyyuni 3 жыл бұрын
kurapika foil with chrollo, , I talk before about how much these two mirror themself from their intelligence, to how they both find themself in a position of leadership, they share the same blood type, the same nen category, even their nen ability are becoming more similar, however, the most poignant comparison to do between Kurapika and chrollo is about the themes of loss and revenge. Kurapika and Chrollo foil are interesting because throughout the series both stopped being contrasts to one another and becoming more the same character, we observe more in the new arc how they act similar, think similar, and both bear the same identity issues, suffer objectification by the outsiders. Kurapika is a metaphorical spider, not only does he meet the requirements to become a spider but also he follows the spider philosophy. If kurapika will successfully kill the spider he will die by proxy, except that they can't die because the spider as an entity cant be killed by kurapika in a way that matter because it's not just a group of thieves is a response to social injustice, as long as meteor city will be oppressed there will always be a next Phantom troupe that will take its position when the voice of the oppressed its silenced violence will become its prime form of communication, furthermore, in the york new arc kurapika realized that chrollo dying is not gonna stop the spiders, there will always be a new head or leg taking its place. In the end, Kurapika will not get his justice if the culprits don't exist, he fights with phantoms and he will never win if they don't become real. This is why kurapika revenge will not happen, he is not morally superior to them, his wrongdoing is not more justified and the narrative acknowledges that kurapika and chrollo are literally and metaphorically in the same boat, and only when both the phantom troupe and meteor city will be given the justice they deserve will kurapika get his. But what are the spiders and what they want, they are introduced to us as thieves, they steal what they like and sell it for money, but when we meet the entire troupe, we are told that they don't care about money, prestige, fame, glory creating a dissociative element and that is important because what we are told and what we are shown it's contradicting, and I think this arc will resolve this by showing us what happened in the kurta massacre because I don't think Togashi will have put so much effort in creating the troupe and their themes of underprivileged just in the end to put to groups who have been discriminated against fighting one another and not only that but the phantom troupe are the only antagonist in the entire series that are humanized from the beginning without development or growth, something that other antagonists in hxh don't get, not even Hisoka and illumi that not only are also members of the phantom troupe and some kind of mentors for killua and gon Evan is it's for twisted reasons , but the spiders and kurapika dont have this kind of relationship and not only that but in the story that we are shown they not have any interest for the scarlet eyes the mafia and the princes on the other hand do,they only killed people in the mafia people who exploited citizens of meteor city but also i want to talk about gon and killua and their relationship with the spiders ,they were caught 3 times by this "monsters" the last time being caught by phinks and feitan the most sadistics members of the troupe knowing very well their relationship with kurapika and they could a)killed them for revenge b)take them to negotiate with kurapika and free their boss c)thank them for being nice with pakunoda(why no one talks about this) Evan melody in the exchange between pokunoda and kurapika, observe this discrepancy with them so why created this revenge narrative only to contradict every aspect of it, I truly believe we are not told the entire story and this arc will change our perspective of the situation. • Now let's talk about the kurta massacre because I believe this will be an element that will be explored in this arc. First thing first I think there are 3 possible directions that the story can go with this narrative device, and I will enumerate and say the pro and contra for each of them: 1.The spider did it for the eyes The pros for this speculation are the most accepted variant of the event and are in character for the spiders. but the cons are for me in a greater number, first, we have the mystery that envelops the entire story of the massacre, and how the narrative not only humanizes the phantom troupe as the only villains in the entire series that get that treatment but also putting them in a position of under privileges makes for a weird reading, having two abused groups fighting each other only for the people in power to be profiting on the dehumanization of this groups, also chrollo never showing interest in the eyes or going after kurapika make me believe that there is more to the story we are told. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJybmLto36vZgpc.htmlthis youtube video make an incredible analysis about my exact problem 2.The spiders did it for revenge. this version is probably the most likely to come true and it states that the kurta clan was massacred in an act of revenge and the biggest proof for that is the note that was left similar to the note in the trump incident. this reading implements the theme of revenge as being a vicious circle that will bring only suffering, have narrative significance, and doesn't clash with how the spiders are presented in the narrative as a group who doesn't care about money, prestige, fame, glory and only to make a statement or defend meteor city. for a contra argument, I will bring some details from the kurapika backstory from the manga and I specifically mean pairo, why his death was the most specific, being the only one with the head taken and not the other and why did he have a phone when in the story was mention how no one in the clan has one. There are little details that I feel hide a bigger truth. 3.The phantom troupe are innocent And for the last, I left out the most controversial one, here is the theory for everyone who wants to read it www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/6jzwyo/theory_the_true_face_of_pariston_the_kurta_clan/ and it states that pariston disguised as sheila killed the kurta clan, we don't know a lot aboutt pariston but we know that He loves destroying those he loves/is fond of. I like this theory because it closed a lot of setups, from why the narrative is portraying the spiders in a good light and frame kurapika revenge as bad to why pairo was the only one with the head left intact, why the kurta clan massacre feel like a mystery and setting up pariston as a villain, we can even go a step further and say that kurapika fighting in the trick tower with fake spiders can be read a foreshadowing for him fighting with a fake enemy and never-ending that fight and leorio will be the one who will finish it, and it will make sense because not only because leorio is pariston foil but also it will reverse their themes. the cons of this theory are that it will be anti-climatic and also why the spiders never mention to kurapika that they didn't do it. I said there are pros and cons for every theory and depending on where the story wants to go but I believe that this arc will explore what happened there, probably in the climax of the story or when Kurapika will be as his lowest and the arc will conclude in a way we least expect.
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