Nice sentiment or thoughtless vandalism / Helm Crag / S3-Ep07 Hiking the Wainwrights

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Жыл бұрын

On the face of it this seems a bit like clickbait but honestly, I really don't know what to think about this. Let me know what you think.
The potentially controversial subject aside, this is a FANTASTIC route and probably the perfect step-up for any novice walkers out there who fancy feeling a bit more remote whilst still remaining very central.
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/// ROUTE DETAILS ///
Hiking the Wainwrights - Season 3: The Central Fells - Episode 07. Helm Crag to Steel Fell, The Lake District
Start: Lancrigg (Grid Ref: NY 33124 08305)
Distance: 11.3 km / 7 miles
Total ascent: 721 m / 2365 ft
Exertion: 3/5
Technical difficulty: 2/5
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@BlackCrag Жыл бұрын

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@johnbell2722 Жыл бұрын

Dear Black Crag your views about this small tribute plaque to a loved one are quite offensive. Shameless vandalism? Really? I only hope the people who placed the memorial do not come across this video. It will be most upsetting. Your self righteous view is unjustified. Click bait headline as welI. I have seen one or two white memorial crosses on the fells in the Lakes. Are these also to be condemned by you? Have you videod Fleetwith Pike yet? Will you condemn the white cross memorial there as well?😢

@lostintransit5822 Жыл бұрын

@@johnbell2722LEAVE NO TRACE!!!

@user-xy1wy4cy6g Жыл бұрын

Wonderful video Wonderful presentation keep the good work up!!

@MrJoncat13 Жыл бұрын

Unnecessary vandalism. Leave no trace and follow the countryside code.

@joeledj Жыл бұрын

If Ian himself was a keen walker chances are he'd have dissaproved of this as a way of remembering him.

@michaelatkinson8291 Жыл бұрын

I get the sentiment behind it but I agree that it's setting a dangerous precedent. If more & more people put up plaques for their loved ones at their favourite viewpoints then pretty soon the rocks will be covered with slate/brass plaques to the point where you can't fail to notice them. Scatter ashes & go there to remember them, but is a plaque really necessary ?

@Nbstevens78 Жыл бұрын

As promised I've been up and removed the vandalism, said name plate was launched towards seat sandle.... 4 people stood chuckling at me ranting 🤣

@unclepeteswildadventures Жыл бұрын

Re the memorial stone. I couldn’t agree more. These are wild places. It sets a bad precedent.

@gerardcarson2779 Жыл бұрын

"Leave no trace" is the simple and sensible maxim. Imagine what the fells (and all beautiful places) would be like if everyone decided "to leave their mark" and in doing so ruin the natural enjoyment for all those who follow on.

@grahamtowler1761 Жыл бұрын

I want my ashes on the coffin path between Grasmere and Rydal but at no time would I want a plaque it devalues the beauty of the area

@VinnieRM Жыл бұрын

I'd of chiselled it off the rock. Hate environment graffiti.

@malajusted1 Жыл бұрын

I came across something like this on penyghent and called it out on Instagram- only to be attacked by family and friends of the deceased. I hadn’t been outrageously critical- but wow- these called me everything under the sun. You’re quite right- where does it stop? Wainwright said that our time was fleeting- well not if it’s cemented down!

@Fost_UK Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's vandalism. By all means scatter ashes but don't spoil the place for others.

@stonestreaker Жыл бұрын

No, don't scatter ashes where people frequent.

@burrianaUK Жыл бұрын

Shame I have done it already this round… or I’d take a chisel with me. Nice sentiment ill thought out 🤷🏻‍♂️

@briankeogh2635 Жыл бұрын

I came across a pile of ashes on Blencathra a few years ago. Poured out rather than scattered on the summit. My honest feeling was, how selfish is that. Lots of people up there that day wanting to reach the summit and most probably not aware of what the ashes were, some walking in them...doesn't seem respectful to the living or the dead.

@catshoemike Жыл бұрын

I did hear someone's opinion that when you're on the summit of Ben Nevis, you're mainly crunching across human remains, albeit burnt

@shanemarchant1411 Жыл бұрын

I think it's great to remember people and pets but stones and plaques are for the cemetery and the views are for all here or gone.

@rogertatham5608 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I have to agree with you on the plaque that was left on Helm Crag summit….as a wild camper myself the number one rule we all stand by is LEAVE NO TRACE. And I don’t care how nice a person Ian was or what he meant to his loved ones this is a very dangerous precedent to set. The lakes should be left as you found it, unspoilt. Another great video by the way 👍

@BurratorWildCamper Жыл бұрын

Tell That To His Mum Dad Sisters Brothers Children........Really???????????????? What youve said actually makes me feel sick you are not a wild camper i would ever want to be associated with........give the familly some respect .

@rogertatham5608 Жыл бұрын

If you approve of this your most definitely somebody I never want to be associated with, bye 👋

@John.lakesrc Жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the plaque, we don`t want those all over the fells.

@johnnelson6315 Жыл бұрын

That plaque is desecration a real shame.

@sarahroberts8304 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you- setting a dangerous precedent. Surely a better way of remembering someone who loved the Lake District would be a donation to a Mountain Rescue organisation or Fell Conservation? And Finn is just the most adorable pup!

@nitsujnagorb7691 Жыл бұрын

The only place for a plaque in the Lakes is on a donated bench ! Your videos are splendid , keep them coming !!

@deekelley891 Жыл бұрын

In the US we have the painted river rock trend-defended by mommies who love their kids finding them at various parks or painting them to leave. The parks consider them littering-but try to tell them that and you’ll get an earful of outrage. It’s ridiculous. Great hike as usual-thank you!

@janehodgett959 Жыл бұрын

Leave only footprints and take only photos best way to show the deepest respect and honouring for our precious planet 🙏🏻🌸✨🤗

@stonestreaker Жыл бұрын

I've lost count of the number of memorial plaques, stones and plastic flowers I've removed from mountain tops. There's a long tradition of quietly removing them, no fuss, like picking up litter. The worst was a funeral urn full of ashes on Inglebourgh.

@BritishCoastline Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@stevemozzie6497 Жыл бұрын

What about ww2 crash sites?

@grahamherbert3612 Жыл бұрын

So others memoriam is litter? You need to take a long hard look at yourself.

@stonestreaker Жыл бұрын

@@grahamherbert3612 yup

@duncan1821 Жыл бұрын

@@grahamherbert3612yeah it is

@this_family_hikes422 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you about the plaque it’s vandalism and there is no place for them up on the fells.

@preese5573 Жыл бұрын

Seeing the top side of those planes flying by was really neat. Excellent content as always!

@hanneliewiese3477 Жыл бұрын

Such stunning scenery - what a privilege. Love your dog to bits ❤

@MaliDaviesPhotography Жыл бұрын

A carousel of wonderment! 😁 love it! One of my first fells Helm Crag. Lots of woodland places I’ve noticed name plaques and doorways chipped into the tree, drives me mad! Especially memorials, can you not remember which tree it is! So how many people go up Hell Crag, could you imagine what a junk yard it would become if everyone left there mark. You know me and my fear of heights, how does it fair coming off and down Steel fell? As always Glen, a very enjoyable watch bud. 😍👍

@ervinslens Жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant, what a majestic scenery my friend. Cinematic art as always!

@antheaczarna2878 Жыл бұрын

Another brilliant video, thanks Glenn. As you say in the description, this is a route that I, as a novice walker in the area, feel would be achievable and truly magnificent. Think it’s gone to the top of my list for September…. Thanks again for providing such inspirational content.

@soniayoung7531 Жыл бұрын

Hi Glen and Finn,nice to see Finn with you today, beautiful scenery thanks for taking us along on your walk, stay safe

@JayM108 11 ай бұрын

Just watched your Old Man of Storr video recently - great to see another relatable reaction to that serene place. Look forward to your videos, hope all is well. Take care and keep trekking!

@benscott7004 Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the Scotland vid when it comes! This is a great series. Really enjoy it

@JustSteve247 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved this one ☝ This is going to be our next walk. Many thanks as always. Steve

@doverjaquesfineartphotogra4050 Жыл бұрын

Hello. Just found you and love your vids. Really feel that I am on route with you and dear little Finn. I love that you look for light first, me too. Light is everything, well generally the most important. Great photography, and I used to be a Wedding Tog myself pre-Covid. Thank you for sharing your walks. I so want to visit Lakeland soon. Oh yes; unnecessary plaque laying. Cemented too, oh my goodness. Gina.

@ownerofphonebarbedwire1832 Жыл бұрын

Finn is like a computer mouse white arrow clicking on scenic spots.

@steph-hikes Жыл бұрын

Brillaint as always! I'm making my way through the central fells at the moment so finding your tips handy! Saved me from the swamp of despair last week in the rain 😅

@celestenova777 Жыл бұрын

Great walk, such beautiful scenery and a well earned pint at the end! Love little Finn, a true walking companion 🙂🌿

@barralass352 Жыл бұрын

Just watched this on my big TV, loved the footage, loved the photos, and a big fan of Finn ❤

@mjkoehler73 Жыл бұрын

Ohhh, greenburn round! That was one of our hikes in May, just we did it anti-clockwise. And yes, that is vandalism

@charliemcconville Жыл бұрын

Looks like another great hike. The plaque seemed over the top, they could of done something less permanent to remember him. The worst vandalism I've seen in nature is kids spray painting graffiti on the trees in the beautiful nature reserve near me, its sickening.

@nickcuthbertson1538 Жыл бұрын

Love your enthusiasm, loving the still atmospheric shots in this, plus shots of the jets, awesome. Hope you're getting sponsered by the lake district tourism board.

@paulmcnee2429 Жыл бұрын

Very much enjoy these less adventurous route videos. Probably relevant to many folk who are not likely to walk more remote or exposed rambles. Video editing showing off the grand views of your walk really well.. and easy relaxed style …good job again . Yep, your small companion steals the show …

@dispLock Жыл бұрын

What a beautiful view! Stunning area to explore.

@mountainmantararua8824 Жыл бұрын

Over here in NZ it is frowned upon to do this, but people do. It's the thin edge of the wedge and can take away the feeling of isolation. A memorial seat (bench) would be better. On one of our popular beach's plaques were put up by families that had lost loved ones to the sea and soon the rocks looked like a graveyard (I'm talking in the dozens). It was getting out of hand and the local council removed them all. You are correct in what you say, pretty soon the rocks will be covered in them. Cheers from the mountains of NZ ☺☺

@pedrothewise2584 Жыл бұрын

funny that,a similar thing happened at a moorish fuente near me. things just stuck on the rocks, looked wrong.didnt last too long, no trace now.amazing place, i love your enthusiasm.

@ragingbull9940 Жыл бұрын

It's everybody's not a private graveyard Great video great photos as usual Always like the pub finish

@CouncilOfWolves Жыл бұрын

Another great video with beautiful shots. Finn's just lovin' life, but looking a bit tired at the end lol. The Fells are a great escape for some of and we don't want people leaving their personal marks all over them. It's a nice sentiment for some but an eyesore for others.

@Peter-Lindsay Жыл бұрын

I camped upon Gibson Knott a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful scenery looking back over to Tarn Crag, Easdale Tarn and Blea Rigg. Great video.

@gailknowles3804 Жыл бұрын

What a beautiful video! I truly envy your access to such gorgeous views. I agree with you about the plaque. It does, indeed, set a bad precedent. Perhaps certain authorities should investigate and if possible have the guilty party go back and remove that thing. I'm just saying. I don't think I've ever heard anyone admit to literally tripping over a blade of grass but that's why we like you so much. The temp. here in North Florida, USA, has averaged 100 F this whole month. I think that's about 38 C. It's hot here, dude or bloke, whichever you prefer. Anyway, keep up the great videos and God Bless.

@onthetrail202 Жыл бұрын

Great video and will definitely do this same walk one day soon. But today it’s rainy and horrible outside so a great day to sit and watch this with lots of coffee 👍🏻👌🏼

@AndrewPaulK80 Жыл бұрын

I am still mesmerised at how you recognise and remember each and every mountain and the previous walks you’ve done as well. They all look the same to me 😂 you obviously have a deep passion for it all though. Fair play to you 😊

@burrianaUK Жыл бұрын

I was like that a year ago - this Friday will be my 25th trip over since and I’m now not bad, I can recognise most, so it will come 🙂

@colinboxall2692 Жыл бұрын

Great watch. That’s a great circuit. Can get boggy around that pike of carrs turn on the plateau the leads onto Steele fell. What a view. Those jets just add to everything that is the Lake District. Just love watching. The in memory plaque is a no from me. Put it in a deep tarn or off the side of the Ullswater steamer but to cement into a rock on the summit. Who thought that would be a good idea / acceptable. Someone in the winter with an ice axe will accidentally remove the plaque.

@bradauto 10 ай бұрын

Bingeing your videos at the moment, and love your photography. Bit of deja vu when Finn jumped up beside you then. Our patterdale chased a bird off a cliff on a beautiful bank holiday walk and I stupidly climbed down to rescue her. All turned out ok, she had broken leg and ribs (nothing that an emergency vet and £1500 wouldn’t sort out 😢) but I was really annoyed at the risk I took to get her back. My point is the heart often rules the head, maybe that’s how that stone ended up there. Anyhow thankyou for the inspiration, stay safe.

@matts74895 11 ай бұрын

Just caught up with this one. Great vid as usual. I think 'leave no trace' is the best approach.

@willbo2000 Жыл бұрын

Thoroughly enjoyed that, excellent mate 👏😍

@paulcooper9187 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic walk description thank you. Agree fully on the position regarding memorials on the hill. From what I remember its also against the National Trust policies and the National Park, although I don't think Helm Crag is in their portfolio, but I might be wrong there.

@johnnyg834 Жыл бұрын

Vandalism 100%. Cracking video though fella.

@paulrobinson8263 Жыл бұрын

Ace views and hike as per norm, been hiking in the Yorkshire Dales this weekend in 100% rain and dressed for Winter but it was great to see all the waterfalls in full flow 👍

@jamieb741 Жыл бұрын

Wow , fantastic walk and views - thank you so much. I subscribed a few months ago and look forward to your videos.

@itsjustme9318 Жыл бұрын

In this crazy screwed up world that we are now all forced to live in your videos are a breath of fresh air. An excellent way to decompress from all the stress of life . well done sir!!!!!!

@rodhepplewhite9722 Жыл бұрын

A classic Lakeland horseshoe walk, that one Glenn. I've walked it both ways quite a few time but prefer the clockwise route as you walked it this time. Great to see Finn out with you again.👍 BTW, the cemented in plaque is wrong, totally wrong, end of!

@paulyoung5393 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this one and great to see Finn again. Not sure about the memorial stone on Helm Crag, a sponsored stone like the ones at Grasmere Church would be more to my liking.

@IanTupmanOutdoors Жыл бұрын

No need for permanent memorials on the fells. We bought some daffodils for the church yard in Grasmere and our parents' names are in the book in the church 😊

@lindamcbride6753 Жыл бұрын

Another fabulous walk and video.

@user-xy1wy4cy6g Жыл бұрын

Brilliant video!!

@tonystrange3893 Жыл бұрын

I took my kids up pen y fan when they was small and a family had just laid a plaque and flowers on the summit, I told them to crack on and touch the top they put the effort in to get up there ,the family got upset and told them to go away ,,l didn’t react we just left without a photo which is no problem, we went back in the evening and it had all gone ,,but I think take only memories leave only foot prints ,good to see the pup out again ,,take care x

@Jamiejamjar 11 ай бұрын

New subscriber here! You are doing the the exploring that I would never feel safe doing, so it's easy watching 🙂

@MrDeano41 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic vid bud great to see little joining you 👍

@POVGuide Жыл бұрын

Really well made video! Interesting to watch without a ton of crazy editing. For sure an inspiration for me. As for the topic of this video, it's something I haven't noticed over here in Norway. However, I believe that nature should stay as untouched as possible.

@dt8ustotten285 Жыл бұрын

I LOVE HIKES WITH YOU! You are too funny.. you talking a little less. Big reason I watch you. Your voice is very relaxing but more than that is your enthusiasm for EVERYTHING. I think it would be hard for me to not take a million shots of sweet Finn. She is living the life with you. Love from the USA!

@MrNHARG Жыл бұрын

There is another one up there in the bracken part where you didn't go to the east of the lion. I didn't think it was a great idea also. Great video as usual. We're in West Cumbria and always like to watch when the weather is crap,like this weekend. We are lucky.😅

@user-tc7ok5wo7j Жыл бұрын

Hi Glen, we love settling down on a Sunday night to watch your latest episodes and tonight's was no exception. Another great route with awesome views! Just an idea, but could you include the names of the pubs you visit in the descriptions each week please?

@fullyloadedred Жыл бұрын

Another great video, thanks buddy. I agree with you, spreading of ashes doesn't do any harm but plaques shouldn't happen.

@JackovdaBoro Жыл бұрын

Man, finn reminds me so much of my little jack russell, God rest him. Love your videos.

@jonm4989 Жыл бұрын

Looks a cracking walk Glenn. I’ve walked up to Helm Crag a couple of times, but hadn’t realised we could have walked this fantastic horseshoe. I agree with you fully about the Ian sign; it just feels very wrong. Personally I also don’t see the point of the ‘money trees’ where people hammer coins into fallen tree trunks; these areas should look as natural as possible. Many thanks as always 👍

@charissecoal Жыл бұрын

I’m certain that people who put plaques on hiking trails don’t spend much time hiking trails.

@paulradford7290 Жыл бұрын

Clearly leave no trace means nothing to some people. Love the Greenburn round. Did it a few years ago in some strong winds. Met a family of Geordies on steel fell doing a poetry recital. One I hope to walk with my daughter soon (she loves Finn by the way)

@Dagrdottir Жыл бұрын

Bit late in coming across this episode. I have been everywhere you have walked but didn't know any of the peaks names as I am a bit hopeless in the memory department. We visited the Lake District on every holiday because it was such a privilege to be there. Everywhere is stunning and although I am very well travelled worldwide there is nowhere as beautiful and unspoiled as the Lake District. As far as the 'Ian' plaque is concerned I have to send my condolences to his family, assuming he has passed away. Having said that I think it absolutely warrants criticism for what has been done. The Lake District is special because it has been almost completely unspoiled by man, if people start to do this then it will lose it's untouched appeal. Again I am sorry for the families' tragic loss but it is wrong to ruin the very place that your loved one enjoyed for it's unspoiled nature. Just want to say that I have never seen such breathtaking photographs, my goodness you are sooo talented.

@madcow71 Жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you on the named stone, a plaque on a bench beside a lake is fine but the fells should not be interfered with in any way, it is (as you say) setting a precedent to open floodgates. Great video as ever....thank you

@thewildfather Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyable videos. Great content. I know in some of them people said you talk too much, but don’t listen!! General hill chat is always good! I did the coast to coast last year with the intention of making a video of it, but… well, I was knackered, so appreciate the effort you put into these! Nice one.

@jimmycburfield5997 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Ian would’ve bloody loved it.

@ILoveMontana0708 Жыл бұрын

Love love love...what else is there to say. Wow just stunning!!❤❤😮

@Garncec Жыл бұрын

Mate I cant type anything except, QUALITY!

@europa1387 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you about the plaque mate. Another cracking video.

@Merritt7278 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed that video, as for Ian spread his ashes by all means but the plaque stays at home.

@jerryrandall9251 Жыл бұрын

While I wouldn't have done this myself, I'm glad the issue was raised as I feel its a more nuanced issue than some of the comments imply. In reality there is no such thing as leave no trace. The erosion from foot prints, the disruption to ground nesting birds from dogs off the lead, the pollution from cars in the valleys etc. We should put more energy into worrying about minimising our own impacts, and less worrying about other people, especially when they are so clearly well intended. The hills are there to bring joy and peace, and need to be respected, but let's keep questioning our own opinions as to what exactly that means and where the compromises lie.

@BlackCrag Жыл бұрын

Should we turn a blind eye in that case? That's a genuine question. Based on the other (very important and valid) issues you mentioned, should we simply allow this to continue without any kind of push back. Eroded paths, pollution and litter are all issues we're trying to tackle and personally I think this something that should be included too. I think the permanent cementing of the plaque compounds the issue further. But that is just my opinion and I'm open to hearing others' opinions and suggestions 😊

@danielcargill8019 Жыл бұрын

Finn has no fear, a very nice hike.

@jh9911 Жыл бұрын

I think you are correct. A plaque isn’t needed in a place that is timeless. RIP IAN

@DarrenKnightPhoto Жыл бұрын

I was meant to be popping up this Wednesday for a hike, but instead I’m at home with a cold compress on my back and eating paracetamol’s like sweets. Ahh well at least I got to see the fells through your lens Glen. Really enjoyed the video bud. Take care 🍺

@mjkoehler73 Жыл бұрын

And you ain't kidding about how steep Steel Fell is. The way you descended is how we went up and talk about a lung blower of a walk up. We were put to utter shame by an octogenarian who flew down that scrambly false summit and blinked and missed him as he flew down to the gates. People there are just built different.

@user-fl4fg1ki6t Жыл бұрын

Stunning, great video

@climbhikeswimbike Жыл бұрын

Vandalism. Maybe someone should accidentally “remove” it with a hammer and chisel? Sets a dangerous precedent, though there are other monuments on mountains in the lakes but from years ago.

@johnterry6594 Жыл бұрын

great fins back 😃😃

@harrythehikerne Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter how much my dad loved the lakes, how much I love the lake or how much I love him, neither of us would be selfish enough to cement his name into one of the fells. As you say, dangerous precedent. Thanks not what the fells need.

@paulclare1524 Жыл бұрын

Very enjoyable video Glen and some epic light to. I have to agree with you regarding memorial plaques totally unnecessary.

@sbutler66 Жыл бұрын

Love to be back at the Lancrigg 🍻

@andrewroland Жыл бұрын

Good stuff, very enjoyable.

@adrianhebberts8683 Жыл бұрын

Another great video glen lovely walk super views and you explain things beautiful Love seeing that little fuzzy face I am on about finn 😂 she is gorgeous and very photogenic

@Wukkie. Жыл бұрын

Just a heads up incase you move along to the the Western Fells is that the road is shut at Loweswater for the Summer due to work being done around there so check before you go. Nice time of year to close the road. Absolutely loving the drone shots, been back watching all your vids from the start, much better than what's on the telly!

@adrianh9375 10 ай бұрын

Totally agree, well done for speaking out 👍👍👍

@richardl7161 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you and the others, we shouldn't be permanently defacing the area with plaques like that. I love your channel by the way. I can't get up there myself these days, but I really enjoy doing the walks with you from the comfort of my armchair. Also, I have to mention Finn. She's a real character and it's great to have a dog that ignores the sheep.