You nailed it - I had to look it up. I have had it 4 years now and it is as percept as the day I bought it. And at a more affordable price that other companies that charge 3 times as much, I had held up in all kinds of conditions!!! 🙏❤🤗

@@JonnyPink65 I've placed an order for it and it's due to arrive tomorrow. Excited to test it out ☺️ Thanks for the reply 🙏🏼

@@knowyouryoga I use it will all my big lenses!!! 🤗❤

I have heard about it but I dont see it yet. I did make the mistake on time while out shooting, not realizing I was with a Sony rep while I was shooting the Nikon Z9 for the first time when he asked my if I had tried Sony..... I told him that I had a hated the lack of color. Later I found out that he worked for Sony in R&D..... ah well. I will try them again in a couple of years but for what I have seen - they are not there for what i want yet. 🙏❤🤗

Thank you, thank you!!! 🙏❤🤗

It worked on my Z9 for a while until the last update - then the focus would bounce all over the place. It still works perfectly though on my D800. I had it out shooting dragonflies in flight a about a month ago!!! The only lens I wish I could have tried when I had my Z9 was the new 180-600.... or some of the other long Z lenses I wanted to buy. Ah well. The 300 F2.8 is still one my all time favorite lenses. 🙏🤗💖

I do indeed. I have the Z8 on order as a rental for April with a 600mm Z lens to go with it and and a 1.4 I think. I had to wait until they have it all in stock and when I will be back. I tried for this month, but the Z8 and 600 are popular. 🙏💖🤗

Life is short - they may not be a tomorrow. I got that from my mom and live my life that way. Some of the regrets I have in life are jumping on an opportunity. Money is a tool, it comes, it goes and we cant take it with us. Better to enjoy something right now while we can instead of waiting until we are unable. That is a fantastic price - I would get it and enjoy it. 🙏❤🤗 I like to joke that if the credit companies are dumb enough to give me credit to buy this stuff, then I am dumb enough to take them up on it. Who am I to second guess these large lenders. Live for today. I have worked hard in my life to get to where I am - I want to think the struggle has been worth it.

@@JonnyPink65 The itch has been scratched. I am excited to use it after it arrives.

@@jeffolson4731 That is AWESOME!!! ❤🤗

Thank you Mark, but it is an amazing camera and lens set up that you have - I had the same set up. I was blown away by how stable the footage was and how sharp the photos were. It is my understanding that the A1 has a better color science and at some point, I would like to try them again. But if you love it then shoot it. Like music we all like something different and it is a beautiful thing!!! It is a tool for creating art work that we get to share or make money with. The Sony video is AMAZING!!! 🙏❤🤗

Thank you!! I knew I would take a lot of heat for this opinion but unless they have used both or other systems, they just dont know. It has been a regret purchase. Just holding off until the release of the Z8 to see if lenses are announced that will actually be available. If not, I will sell it and by the Canon 800mm F/5.6 I want! Thank you again. 🙏❤🤗

Adrian - your D850 is amazing and it may be one I buy again. The Nikon DSLR single point is one of the best I have used. I keep the D800 in single point all the time. You know, using a Z lens may make a difference but if I cant get one, it is a mute point. This camera and set up cost too much to miss simple shots like that or have the video focus breath like that. The PF 500 works brilliantly on my D800 as does my old 300 F2.8. Those are not the only time that it happened but it was the last straw for me. I can sell the Z9 with adapter, extra batteries and get my EF 800mm lens and be happy. I think that Nikon releasing a camera that will be priced at what the R5 is priced at is ridiculous and dig at their current users - I believe they are missing their market but that is just me. Ah well - it has been a fun journey - thank you for listening to me rant in the video.... it really got to me. 🙏❤🤗 PS - when the Z8 does come out it will be competing with new stuff from Canon and Sony with further advances on their tech that is already better. They need to realize this is not the age of the DSLR anymore as far as new sales go. Frustrating. That same thinking with software licensing almost killed Apple until they brought Steve Jobs back and he brought out the Ipod...... with attention to details like hearing the click when you plugged in your headphones.....

Thank you for that - exactly - you have to try it to see it for yourself. I expect a lot of grief on this but the Z9 is just too overpriced for the poor performance. When I sell my Z9 and all accoutrements that go with it, I am going to buy an old EF 800mm F5.6 - heavy but man that lens was a dream...... and more in my price range that is the RF version. Again - thank you!! 🙏❤🤗 PS - I was shooting my Sigma lens on the R5 today and editing the photos using that AI in Lightroom!! It is AWESOME.

Thank you Randy. I love the clarity and color of Nikon and always will. My 300 F2.8 is one of the original ones - big, heavy all glass and metal. When I rented a Z9 it worked great. When I got mine, it worked great. After the last firmware update, it did not. I put it on my D800 and it worked fine. My older lens I use for landscapes is a hit and miss as well but if I put it in manual, no problem. The 70-200 that I have used for many events ifs iffy with the last update. My old 500 F4, the 200-500 and the 500 PF are all spot on. The frustration is having it go out of focus or having the focus point just to something else with both stills and video. I have had people say you need to be in this mode when this happens, then that mode for that. With Canon, I set my parameters and it just works. The focus point sticks to the eye and that is what we are paying for. Initially, I wrote it off but to me, it seems to be consistent - and again for the price, not worth it. If it were in the $2000 range and trying to compete with the Canon R7 or R8, I could justify it, but the Canon R5 that is two years older is more consistent. If something like that happened at an event, I would have been horrified. This is just my opinion based on what I want and at what price. I cam sell this and buy the 800mm Canon lens I want. I will still shoot Nikon but it will be my old D800 and I my buy another D850 too. I switched to Canon because of the R5 and the tech. It has gotten better and I was really hoping that the Z9 would be better than it is. To that end, there is a reason Mark Smith still shoots Sony even though he has played with the Z9. He has had the same conclusions. Thank youf ro watching to the end!! 🙏❤🤗

Fully Agree, The 300 f2.8 VRii works perfect on my Z9 with the latest Firmware. I also shoot Sony and Fuji. I shoot the 300 f2.8 vrii on my Fuji XH2s with a Fringer adaptor. So why do I shoot Nikon as the main system. because I have used it for 30 yrs and understand the focus system, the ergonomics and the IQ. I have bought Sony A9ii for its magic focus and shot the A1, are they better than Nikon or even the Fuji, maybe, but the focus from success depends on the photographer and what he/she wants to accomplish with the image. Fram the days of manual focus, to DSLR's I have learned and practice to be in control of the camera and not the other way round. When I use Sony the focus is out of my control. it follows Bird, dog, cat, thing like nothing and if you photograph diving birds all day, it is magic, when you shoot to compose, create a specific look I want to be in control. The best pilots in the world are those who trained not using simulators, today's pilots cannot fly like the old once in challenging conditions because the computer runs the show, For me the modern obsession about focus systems and subject detection is like shooting in Auto mode. Yes I enjoy the eye detection and some of the benefits the new auto focus systems offer, but they added complexity, they make mistakes, and then we blame the AF system instead of understanding that Nikon, Sony, Canon, Fuji and OM present different fundamentals to their ficus systems. That is why OM users say the OM-1 is better than Sony, and the Nikon users say Z9 is better than Canon or whatever. Last point, never invest in a system because of the focus system, next generation the bodies will change, who present the best overall system? Nikon with its fantastic primes with build in TC's, or Canon who believe that a 100-500 f7.1 is what their users want, or Fuji with a 150-600 f8 or Sony with a 200-600 f6.3 or Nikon again with 3, 400 mm lenses 400 f4.5, 400 f2.8 with build in TC and 100-400? They all have strengths and all have short comings, The other brands need primes like the Nikon 400 f4.5 or 500 f5.6 or 800 f6.3 pf, light affordable and fantastic IQ, Nikon Needs a 150/200-600 and some other glass. So maybe it is time to present more quality images and describe the process, images, what settings worked best and how to optimise the gear you use, rather then justify why people change gear, why the af is so much better if it really is not. This here is why Camera brands never give pre production models to you tubers or influencers but to their brand pro's as they know what is expected in the field when it counts.

@@JonnyPink65 mark smith has played with the r5 too.

@@jakesdewet3567 AMEN to all of it. The most fun I have is shooting my old D800 - I am in complete control and I have to think about each shot to make sure the focus is correct, not too high with the IS, shutter speed fast enough. I really, really enjoy that. And even earlier this evening I was sitting here searching for a Nikon 800 PF because I really want one - want not need. I really want the EF version of Canons 800 mm and I will that sometime by summer - again, a want. When i shoot, I go between manual focus, single point (my favorite) and eye AF. My shots from my D800 are every bit as sharp as the Z9... and at a fraction of the price. It frustrates me that I spent so much on this set up when I could have bought the Canon lens I want... but then I would have wondered. This new tech is fun to use like driving a new car with lane assist or blue tooth for your phone. We don't need it but we use it since we have it. I do find it interesting that the internet is going nutz comparing the upcoming Z8 to the 3 year old Canon R5. I do hope it is an amazing camera. And yes the new coating and focus motors on the newer lenses are awesome but the older lenses are still really awesome. My favorite 300 F2.8 is all metal, no VR and you can feel the focus motors when they move the glass. It was awesome before the last update and that breaks my heart - as I said, it is old. Ah well - just an observation for the way I want to shoot. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! 🙏❤🤗

@@johnvanderploeg Yes he has and has gone back to the Sony A1 with a 600 prime I think. It is an awesome set up. He has also shot the Z9... and gone back to the A1. We all find something that just works for us - another one of the many wonderful things about photography.!!! ❤🤗

Thank you!!! Your D750 (I have mine too) and Nikon DSLRs in general have what I consider to be the best single point focus of all time. Bold I know to say that but it is true in my opinion. The Z9 is good when in focus I love the 8K and 4K 120- the R5 can do that without sound but it is two years - 2 YEARS older. The newer Canons can do that too and still at a lower price. The R7 eye AF is also better and at only $1500! How can Nikon think they will compete with the Z8 at the same price as what the R5 goes for? When it does hit the market, Canon and Sony will again have new product that will still surpass what Nikon is offering. I have heard about what Steve has said..... but even Mark Smith who has tried the Z9 and can pick what ever lens he wants..... still shoots Sony! Steve is great and his videos are awesome - for him that may work, but I want something that work all the time. If you do upgrade to an Z - some of your older lenses may not work. My all time favorite 300 F2.8 does not work on the Z9..... heartbreaking. All of the lenses I have thrown at the R5 and R7 work flawlessly. Ah well - just my opinion. Thank you, thank you!! 🙏❤🤗 PS - if I have to putz around to get the right setting for something to work when wildlife is moving fast, it is again the wrong camera. With Canon, i either push the record and it goes into auto recording, or push the button I have set up to put it into video for my settings...... and it just works. No fuss, no muss.... and at lower price..... and it stays in focus on the eye!

Thank you, thank you!!! 🙏❤🤗

I thank you!! I tried all the tips - I really did. I want something that just works out of the box, not having a couple of focus modes depending on what or how I was shooting. Maybe I am limited, but when focus jumps from the subject to something else - that is a no go for me. I hope the Z8 is better but I also suspect that Canon will release something right behind it that will still surpass it. I guess spending that much money on a camera that is not much better than the Z6 or D780 for video is something I dont want to do. Yes, Canon misses focus too but not to this extent. Again, wildlife is quick. If I need a couple of focus modes to make it work, it is not for me. I think Mark Smith has had the same conclusions and still shoot Sony for those reasons. I can wait for the Canon R1!! Thank you for the tips - they just did now work for me! 🙏🤗❤

@@JonnyPink65 Z9 is night and day difference from Z6/D780 in video. 🤯🤯🤯 it’s not even close. That’s the kind of opinion that makes me go hmmm what went horribly wrong because something must have Those cameras could never capture this maintaining focus through foliage: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqx5obSkrN-ne6c.html

@@livejames9374 I LOVE his stuff and you will see my comment there, but he does mention the focus.... I mention the D780/Z6 because that was the first camera that actually had great video focus in a controlled environment. I was unimpressed with the Z6 for wildlife over my D800. The Z9 is way better but not something for me. For now, it will sit on the floor with my other camera gear that I dont use. IF - IF IF I can find an 800 PF Z lens that he uses, I, will buy it and I have been looking. That lens came out in April of 2022 and still not on shelves. If I can hook up or find a good deal on a Canon Ef 800mm lens, I will sell the Z9 to pay for that. For new, I just want something works flawlessly and gives me results I want and am confident with. I will also say since you mention his channel that even Mark Smith who has shot the Z9, is still with Sony. It works for him - awesome, If it works for you - awesome. At this price, it is just not a camera for me. One one hand, I am glad I got to play with it for this long - on the other, I regret buying it and there have not been many bits of kit I can say that about. Just my opinion. 😊

@@JonnyPink65 good stuff. It seems the 800pf is easy to secure in Europe but I unobtainable here in the states.

@@livejames9374 Exactly. I can pay an extra $1000 but I think i will hold off. I keep looking while paying other things off. My plan is the Canon EF 800mm and the R1 when it is announced soon!❤🤗

Thank you Chris - your stuff is AWESOME!! The R5 is a little expensive but looking at the specs of the new Canons on the market - the R8 and R6II - they should be even more amazing than the R5 with a smaller sensor. But what you capture with your R7 - stunning!! 🙏❤🤗

So... thanks to you, today i got 18 new subscriber, which is 15 more than usual.😁 Earlier i put your video on my facebook and ask my few followers to give you a thumbs up. Even though i can not count too much on them. 🙄

Think you’ll be disappointed by R7 for landscapes coming from a Z6

I think the R7 is am awesome, inexpensive body for birding. I would still use you Z6 for landscapes. I am of a mind that any camera can shoot awesome landscape shots - the beauty come from the vision of the person behind the camera, and settings. For wildlife I am of the mind that you want performance and fast focus - static wildlife is much easier than fast moving subjects but they are moving all the time - that is where the gear comes into play. Please remember that it is my opinions. The R7 will be a mile better than the Z6 for wildlife but I too think your Z6 will produce creamer images for landscapes!! 🙏❤🤗

@@livejames9374 I do have an old D610 still

@@JonnyPink65 I sill have a D610 I could use, Many thanks for replying

@@HobsNobs you can find a Z7 for less than R7 now. For landscapes the Z7 is still one of the best landscape cameras and you’ll have even more megapixels.

Thank you. I was a life long Nikon guy until the R5. I had high hopes when I rented, then bought the Z9. I agree with you - the IQ of a bird sitting on a branch may be a tad sharper on the newer by two years Z9. However, my old D800 is every bit as sharp when a bird is sitting still. Missing shots that you are waiting for because the camera focus point when elsewhere is unacceptable for the price. The Z8 is rumored to be price a little higher than the R5. Ah well -thank you for listening to me rant in the video. Just not a reliable system for me. If that happened at an event..... it would be horrifying. Again, thank you!! 🙏❤🤗

Nail the shot I’m curious Z9 AF is much better than R5 his main grip is not even recent F Mount lenses but rather old versions of the lenses.

@@faisalghiar The Z9 single point is not as accurate as it was on the older DSLR - my D800 is still superior as is the D850. I wish I was the only one saying that but it is true or has been for me. I can pull out my old D800 and get amazing shots and at a 15th of the price. The images are just as sharp and the color is still the same. Nikon is trying but still has a way to go. And.... I am unable to get the long native lenses I want - even reaching out to Nikon, they sent me a link that is ......... backordered. Thank you for the input. 🙏💖🤗

Thank you. I cant believe it cost that much for a camera system that cant do as much as the R7 - frustrating and it the only regret I have buying camera gear. I love Nikon color second to none but that is not what we are paying for. Canon with their amazing color is just a superior system all the way around - at a lower price too!!! I could go on...... thank you Peter. I know I am going to get a lot of grief on this video. All of Canons products just ..... work.... flawlessly!!! 🙏❤🤗

I dont get it but thanks for the comment! 💖🙏

😂Thank you - they call me tripod for just that reason - it hold my camera and me leaning on it too!!! 🙏❤🤗

@@JonnyPink65 Of course, you are right. They should also put a seat in it so that we can rest our legs from time to time. 😀😂Have you seen my latest video on the 24mm f/1.4 Nikkor?

@@JonnyPink65 Also this time I had to delete the video I had uploaded because I realized that it was badly created. Your kind comment disappeared with it. I uploaded another identical one but increased the duration of the transitions. A hug from your friend Alfa Bravo... Sorry.

@@alfabravofilm No worries. I upload as private, look at it on a couple of devices, make changes (usually misspellings or transitions) then I make it live. Your stuff is awesome!! 🙏🤗❤

Thank you!! My thoughts exactly. The final straw for me was the swallow launching from the ground.... I had the bird in focus and when he launched, the camera focus went else where. Focus is important. 🙏❤🤗

Amen my brother. I know I am going to get a lot of grief on this video but for the money..... I have to say no to Nikon. And thank you for sharing it. Unless you have shot other systems, you just wont know what works for you and how they perform. All new ... and old cameras are great in the right hands but newer photographers want something that works at a realistic price. Hands down - the Canon R7. A beast at a price that is still a stretch for many. And hey - when I sell this, I can buy and old used EF 800 F5.6 that will work perfectly on my R7, R5..... and the R1 when that comes out next year. I simply want what I am paying for. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! 🙏❤🤗

@@JonnyPink65 that’s my game plan

Thank you!!! For the money and in my opinion - based on my use, the R7 is the best value for the money - it outperforms the Z9 in terms of eye AF for wildlife. It has problems as well but nothing is perfect. I find it funny that Nikon is releasing a camera to compete with a 3 year old Canon...... hmmmm. Canon will release the R1 shortly after and again be far ahead as far as tech is concerned. The Z9 is a great camera but no for me as a wildlife camera. I dont mind paying for it, but I want what I am paying for. It really is a regret I have as a purchase. 🙏❤🤗

Thank you so you know where I am coming from. The ones that are hating on it are those that have not tried anything else. I want what I am paying for!! We get that and more with the Canon system 🙏❤🤗

Focus breathe or nail focus? The 80D is an awesome crop sensor camera as is my 90D that I use for video. The focus is spot on. That is what I expect when spending that much money for the Z9. You 80D shoots some fantastic video!! 🙏❤🤗

Awesome - it if works for you, stick with Nikon. They produce super sharp images and have unsurpassed Nikon color. For wildlife, it is just not working for me. If I could actually find the Z PF 800mm lens that has been out for a year and no one has in stock anywhere around here, I would buy that and try it - I may have a different opinion. I was a life long, die hard Nikon shooter, but, the reason I left Nikon was I wanted tech that was available in other systems. Sony was AMAZING but I did not like the colorless raw files. Then the R5 came out and I was blown away. Every time I pick that camera up, it still impressed me to this day. So for me, and what I want from a camera I will just keep shooting Canon. Dont you find it interesting the Nikon is releasing a new camera to compete with a 3 year old Canon? This frustration reminds me again of why I stopped shooting Nikon to begin with. I have shot Nikon Canon and Sony - ..... I am going to stick with Canon - it works for me. 🙏❤🤗

@@JonnyPink65 But why has the Canon R5 been for sale at a discount for the last 6 months? Sounds like they are worried about Nikon's upcoming offerings. It is very frustrating that we can't get new cameras every 6 months like Canon or Sony but you have to admit they have spared themselves the technical limitations of the time and have waited for a huge leap in tech to make the next version. That wasn't so much the case with the leap from Z6/7 to the mark ii but they have made it clear that slow and steady does have it's advantages. The glass that Nikon has been putting out has far surpassed Canon and Sony's offerings (your right if you can get a 600 or 800PF). The Z mount has a bright future with the widest aperture out of all the majors. Canon merely slapped RF mounts to its longer focal length EF glass. I see great innovations coming out of Nikon. Not just about AF.

@@JonnyPink65 when R1 releases it’ll be a camera competing with a 3 year old Z9. Same for when Canon finally releases mirrorless versions of their tele lenses instead of the EF permanent adapter versions currently out. Also kind of interesting.

@@Ben_Stewart I hope so. My thinking is that Canon will release the R1 shortly even though it has been rumored to be in 2024. Either way - I want the 800 PF, but I am not will to wait another year for it. Both are awesome cameras but the R5 just works better for me. For me, I found the Z9 disappointing when it mattered to me and I have only shot that for the last 4 months. I can not say that about the R5 in all the time I have that. Yes we all miss shots and nothing is perfect, but it works better for me. I do wish I could shoot 4K 120 with sound like the Z9 though!! ❤🤗

@@livejames9374 Awesome - I had not thought about that!!! ❤🤗

You know, the final straw for me is that I can NOT get any Z glass - I wanted to buy either the Z 800 PF (Canon's 800 is only a little heavier and is faster), and or I wanted to buy the Z 600 F4 with a built in tele - also not available. So, I reached out to Nikon - they sent me a link that is....... backordered. No matter how good a body my be, it is useless without a lens. I also think the photos with the R5 are cleaner and ..... the Canon focus even with the inexpensive R7 are just better and stickier. It is better in-body tech. Nikon is still just so far behind. I have my Z9, adapter, extra batteries, PF 500 and 1.4 tele all up for sale on eBay. I will put al that towards a new Canon lens. On the other side, I just used an RF 800 F11 for the first time - a lens I was afraid of because of how slow it is..... and I am blown away. That was also another seal the deal for me. Nikon just can not compare - they just can't. 🙏🤗💖

Competition is great! For me I'm stuck with my 300 2.8 vr1 with 1.4x TC but I'm focusing on getting closer to wildlife and so far it's been working. I don't get everything but where I am limited, I try and compose with the environment. I wish I could drop 10k on a lens but I can't. Im so excited about future mirrorless tech! Keep the videos and comparisons coming.

@@sinetwo I buy and sell stuff a lot and they keep giving me credit.... so I use it! I cant afford it but I pretend that I can so it makes it easier for me to justify that payment. LOL I just put up a video using the Canon 800mm F11 that is only $1000.... and it blew my mind. Not as much as the faster big brother, but man it is amazing. I was using it on my R5 because I knew the ISO would shoot way up there. I am selling a lot of gear to get the lens I want and will finance the funds I am short. I look at life this way - we are all only here for a short while and we need to enjoy each second as if it is our last. My regular bills are taken care of first, then I play. That is what we have all worked for. So, I live my life that way - I got if from my mother. Someone I know just had a heart attack at 40 and is gone. We never know. Live for today, live right now. Money comes and goes and is only a tool to use while here. 🤗💖 Not a tree hugger thing or religious thing, just how I choose to live. That smile and hello you gave to someone cost nothing and may make someone's day!!

You're absolutely right. I'm hopefully on track for early retirement and my passion is underwater photography and conservation. I have a few expensive hobbies but this gives me most joy, so it's what I spend money on! Life's too short to sweat the small stuff, but I still spend days and weeks deliberating every decision with mirrorless, when I could very clearly just go out and buy a Z8 (if they're available 😂). If I was around I'd definitely join in for a shoot! Now I'm preparing for British Wildlife photographer of the year and a few other scuba comps, so I'm shooting almost every day. Great channel you've got, and a really nice presentation style.

@@sinetwo Thank you!!! Life is short and we have to live each moment to the fullest. The funny thing for me is I can want a bit of kit for photography and will spend at the drop of a thought...... but clothes.... nope. Unless there are holes in both my underwear and pants, the clothes can wait - I have have other places to spend my money. 🤣 The only reason i have not buried myself in debt for the lens I want is that I am selling some stuff to offset that cost. However.... I did buy a "holdover" lens that I am really enjoying since my main old lens in not focusing the way it used to. I spent instantly, got it today and was out shooting with it in the evening. Took a break from editing photos to reply to comments. That was the easiest $1000 I have spend and worth the happiness I got while I was out. I will put some photos on Instagram later and then into a video - sooooo worth it. I would NOT have had the same joy buying underwear - bad visual! 😂Have as few regrets as possible while we can. You know, it had been 2 1/2 years ago I crashed on my bicycle and broke both hips. It reinforced how quick life can change. I never forget that and just enjoy each time I am out no matter what it is, each treasure r struggle that makes me happy. You will be the British Wildlife photographer of the year! On a side note, I have contacted Nikon about a wildlife lens I want - they sent me to a BACKORDERED link! 🙏🤗💖 The Z8 shows backordered as well.

Thank you - I understand. Many here will say it is how it is being used, or the lens or I just don't know how to set it etc.... Bottom line for me I get great shots when a subject is sitting still but in motion the focus point moves to a point on the body and it is just not acceptable to me for the cost. My old D800 has a fantastic single point focus, works awesome for birds in flight, and is every bit as sharp as the Z9. Using eye AF, I more consistent results from my Canons.... 🙏🤗💖

Thank you, thank you!!! 🙏❤🤗

I get it - my favorite will always be Nikon color - it is amazing. I have wanted the Nikon Z 800 Pf and when that was not available, I went looking for the Z 600 with a built in tele - also not available (I also just checked again in a last-ditch hope before the Z9 leaves my house). I reached out to Nikon as well and they sent me to a link that is ........ BACKORDERED!!! A camera body without a lens is a doorstop. Their lack of actually hearing what I was asking was the last straw for me as well I am sad to say. I was a life long Nikon shooter until the R5 came out and that last straw makes me sad. I will still shoot my D800 for sunsets, star and the occasional head shots or portraits, but not again for anything else at least for now. My sights are set on an RF 600 F4 or an RF 800 F5.6, then the R1 early next year. Again, if I had been able to by either of those Nikon lenses, I would have kept it and shot it occasionally. The body is useless to me though. Thank you for the input!! 🙏💖🤗

#TeamCanon 🙏❤🤗

Well - I have a 500mm lens on each with a 1.4 tele on each, each is adapted - each shooting at 700mm. I shoot early mornings usually ...... and I could argue all your points because the setting are almost the same when I am out shooting as far as time, distance and location. The Z9 is awesome for perched birds but struggles more with a subject in a moving and busy background. As far as the photographers you mention that now promote Nikon - look who is sponsored by Nikon when the first Nikon Z8 reviews start hitting the net - I am sure they will say it is amazing, or that Nikon "did not tell them what to say". I don't do that because I don't want to have to submit my video review for review ahead of time - I put little stock in stuff like that. The Z9 is impressive comparing it to other Z body Nikons but my old D800 is every bit as sharp as the Z9. And I am sure the new Z lenses are amazing - I would love to try and own the Z800 PF but it is not available here in the US - a lens that has been out for over a year. But you are correct, I should just shoot Canon and have fun. I can shoot my old Nikons any time I like and also have fun. I was/am just disappointed with the Nikon Z9 - I really expected more. Ah well - just an observation for the way I want to shoot and what works for me. Thank you for the input 🙏❤🤗

@@JonnyPink65 if you are going to compare two different cameras it really helps to have a scientific comparison. You should be shooting the same subject and analyzing the same variable. As far as sponsors go, Steve and tinman aren’t sponsored by anyone and were both shooting the a1. They switched back to Nikon for the 600 f4 tc and Jan wegner is a canon guy who is really tempted by the 600 f 4 tc. Mark smith who you actually mentioned in another comment has been paid by Sony. He has videos sponsored by Sony on his KZfaq channel. So I’m not really sure what you are talking about. If Nikon doesn’t work for you then don’t shoot them. But that doesn’t mean the gear doesn’t work, you just can’t figure it out. It seems like your last few videos were just a confirmation bias.

@@johnvanderploeg Well, when the first reviews for the Nikon Z8 come out, it will be interesting to see if Steven and tinman have reviews - I will hold my opinion on sponsorship until then and I like Steve's videos. For me, I have more consistency with the R5 - there are many things I prefer on the Z9... but I want consistency. Maybe it is me and that is OK - it means that the R5 is better suited to my style or my incompetence - however you want to look at it. I am still looking for an 800mm Z PF lens and I do hope that Nikon puts out a 200-600 with the Z9 to also compete with Sony - I will buy it. But on both cameras< i have a 500mm prime with the latest 1.4 tele. The 500 PF I use on the Nikon is new. The 500mm Canon I have is first version of that lens. The advantage should be with the Nikon. Both have been shot at the beach and in all the same places. I do find it funny that we are all still comparing the new upcoming Z8 to a 3 year old camera that Nikon is just catching up to. I suspect that they will release the R1 shortly that will again jump ahead of everyone - then Sony will release another flagship pushing everyone forward again. It is an endless viscous cycle. And I am not a fan of the new Canon lenses other than two that I have used - I think the older ones are better. But for me as a whole package, the Canon works better for me. I am disappointed because I was a life long Nikon guy who switched when the R5 came out. I finally bought the Z9 and for a while was really happy but as I used it more, and then compared it to Canon..... well, it became a purchase regret. I am waiting to sell it until I see what Nikon comes out with or to see if I can find an 800 PF. But until then..... well.... it will sit on the floor with all the other gear I hardly touch. And again, this is just my opinion after using both systems and what works for me. 🙏❤🤗

@@johnvanderploeg My reply did not post. I use a new PF 500 with the latest 1.4 tele on the Z9 - I use an old version one 500mm lens with the latest 1.4 tele on the Canon - the advantage should be with the Z9. I shoot the same places, the same way, same time of day over and over. The one time I compared the two the same day was for stills shooting humming birds in a place where you just had to point your camera and you got a great photo. It will places like fast moving birds in trees or the beach where it became apparent. This is not something I came up with - I have been shooting this for 4 months. Maybe it is me and that the Canon just suits how I shoot better I do find it interesting as everyone is teasing the new Z8 that they are all comparing it to a 3 year old camera. As far as Steve and Tinman, I like Steve's videos but I think you will also see them reviewing it as soon as it is actually announced - that will speak volumes so I will hold off until then. I was a life long Nikon guy that switched when the R5 came out. I waited a long time to buy the Z9 but it has become a purchase regret. I am still looking for the 800 PF that was released a year ago................... I am hoping Nikon does announce a 200-600 and I will buy it.... if it is available. If not, no worries. I have a system that works for me that I prefer. The Z9 is a great camera and if that is all you know then you wont know what I am talking about. I am not a big fan of the newer RF lenses other than a couple, but I think the older ones are still fantastic. And please remember these are my opinions based on how I shoot and only for the focus system. Way better than any other Z camera but over priced for what you get. The Canon R7 does better in terms of eye AF and at only $1500 - all the other NEW Canon cameras have better eye AF than in the R5 - just my opinion. 🙏❤🤗

@@JonnyPink65 I agree, shoot what works best for you! But it helps to remain objective about the strengths and weaknesses of other cameras. The a1, for example, is a great camera. But it’s overpriced, uses extremely expensive cf express type a cards, doesn’t shoot 8k 60 or have a two way tilt screen. These are just a few of its weaknesses compared with the z9. The r5 doesn’t shoot 20 fps in 14 bit or without rolling shutter. Maybe not an issue for you, but clearly inferior to the a1 or z9. The R5 also has viewfinder lag, overheats, has a 30 min record limit, one cf express type b card slot, no vertical grip (maybe a pro for some) poor battery life and all of its good features are lost once the battery charge dips below 60%. You talk about the R5 as if it’s superior, but the fact of the matter is it is not. You just like it’s af better. I’ve shot the a1 and the r5 as I have friends that own them and they aren’t getting shots that I can’t! The fact of the matter is the r5 is showing it’s age, but it’s still a very competent camera and if it’s what you want to shoot it will get you some amazing shots! Oh and about Steve and tinman, you used mark smith, a paid Sony user who literally has paid Sony videos on his KZfaq channel as an example of someone who doesn’t use the z9. Your logic about Steve and tinman is inconsistent with past arguments you have made.

No worries - it is art and we all see it differently. The old Nikon D3200 had some of the best color I think. The D800 though is my all time favorite. I could go on about what I have liked about each camera but hey- it is all personal!! 🙏❤🤗

As soon as you shoot RAW, all certainty goes out the window anyway, and it’s up to what the RAW converter makes out of it. Because you can't actually look at a RAW file. As soon as you do, you’re looking at an interpretation of that file, the same way as shooting in JPEG means it’s the camera’s interpretation.

@@starbase218 I only shoot raw, or I should say process raw no matter what camera I am shooting. I use the JPEGs out of cameras as a quick reference. If you have used both systems or even Sony, then you know. Those that have not will disagree with me. I was a life long Nikond shooter until the Z9 came out. I find it funny that people are comparing what the Z8 will be against the R5 - a 3 year old camera. I love the clarity of the Z9, same as my old D800. Out of focus is still out of focus in the raw files too.... 🙏🤗❤

@@JonnyPink65 Nobody knows what the Z8 will be, or if there will even be a Z8. People comparing such a camera are wasting time. Also, if you only use one RAW converter, then you might be inclined to believe that what you see in terms of differences is entirely in the RAW files. But that’s really not the case.

…says the color blind dude.