I got it January only because I ordered it the second it was available online. Coming from the D850, it has been worth it even though I am just an amateur. All my F mount lenses work better on this camera than on my D850.

Nikon not only gets it right…they do it right! This is why so many faithful like myself keep shooting Nikon despite the “pressure” to switch. I have always had faith in Nikon and they have always been my preferred system. I did switch to Canon twice in the past 25 years. That was fine, Canon is great. But I never, ever even for a second was considering Sony. I don’t hate Sony. They paved the way, period. Nikon did what they did with the Z9 thanks to Sony. Canon missed the boat and the R3 is a step behind. It has its little eye-AF but it is not comparable to the Sony A1 or Z9. So I agree with you and I am so happy for Nikon. If I had not just bought a D6 and if I didn’t have a D850 with grip, I would I buy a Z9. I ordered one and would’ve been a first to get one. I’m an NPS member and photojournalist so it would’ve been easy to get one. I’m still going to get one. I just am completely satisfied with my current gear and I love my current setup of lenses and cameras. Plus the D5/D6 sensor still has an advantage in low light or “high ISO!” It’s about a 2/3rds stop advantage in low light. Even when you downsize a Z9 file to 20mp, the D6 still has a clear and measurable advantage. For what I do that really comes in handy. But the Z9 is in for a bright future and is already producing world class images at major events. Nikon just does things the right way. The ergonomics and process with Nikon just make more sense than the other brands.

@@patricksmith2553 I never felt any pressure to switch - Sony is for point 'n shooters coming from the smartphone. In my shooting style Nikon was always right. Having said that - I use Sony e-mount since 2015. Initially for manual focus lenses only. For tricky AF situations - dark animal eyes on dark für - even the A6100 is outperforming anything else. For carefully framed work Sony is a pain

It’s also super clutch when shooting video!

I think Leica has a camera now with ISO 64.

ever heard of a camera named Pentax K1?

@@mytravellinfo No, no one else has either 😂😂😂

Canon R3 has ISO 50

Stop spamming

I agree sony has very good AF but in menu ergonomics and form factor and user interface aspects sony is the worst of the lot Only part where sony camera like a1 and a9 and other models is that it has very good AF

Catching up? It just passed anything available from Sony.

Sony AF is overrated. Currently, renting a Sony a7 iv. I will play with settings further see if I can the hit rate up. I've also rented a z6 ii and r6. R6 is better, then a7iv is slightly better than the z6ii.

@@MikeHeller no it did not get everything better, just some

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Same here, I'm still happy with my D500

It’s a beautiful beautiful camera. Love it 🥰

@@berniestang2616 👍

Same here still work with my D810 , z6, z5 & waiting for z9 😍

Not to mention shutter shield, and no mechanical shutter which will eventually wear out when shooting 20-30 FPS.

zero rush 😂 cool

That lens looks like will be a big deal for wildlife photography.

As a Nikon shooter, I’m surprised Canon hasn’t released its R1 yet, and it looks like it will be a while before it does. But I’m sure it will be very good when it does.

I think those Canons are pretty amazing right now, so I dont think you're really missing out in a serious way, and I say that as a long term Nikon shooter. That 400mm does sound next-level though,. but it costs about the same as a new car.

@wangpie92 Sony and Canon hold almost all of the market sales…now that Nikon is starting to catch up they might get some market share back but the need to actually fill orders to do that 😯

@@chrisvig123 You give too much credit to Sony Market share Up to 2021 Canon 47.9% Sony 22.1% Nikon 13.7% Fujifilm 5.6% Panasonic 4.4%

Ys, so true

Ever shoot with the A1 ?

@Photo Bunny big bodied camera? You can attach a grip to the a1 and it should be the same

@Photo Bunny - I run and gun with an A1 with a 600f4 + 1.4x TC. I live in the Chicagoland area where temperature can be just as extreme at times, and I've not experienced what you've outlined above. Maybe you're just not using the A1 the right way? ;) Btw, ,I still shoot Nikon (since the F + D models) and wouldn't mind getting the Z9 (for kicks).

I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others. Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.

😂…you wanna go to war with them Northrups. I think its high time u forgave them Ike. Come on! Tony almost kissing the camera ass already. I think he know he did too much when he ddnt get any shoutout from Nikon on the Z9. So photomeike u got to lay down your sword now and have some kumbaya dance and a drink 🍺 with the Northups.

@@jj_Kamelleon The North Remembers.. ❄️❄️❄️

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i think he means there is 10 niche things that nikon have better than sony...

@@alphaxfang As sceptical as I am about Northrup reviews, these 10 “niche” things are not niche to pros. They are expected and make working with the camera so much better. We know all the cameras can take great images. But these others things have become much more important.

Yep, it's just not worth it for 99% of people.

You summed it up perfectly. I’m in the same situation.

The D850 is near the pinnacle of human ingenuity. Crazy that people would write it off.

Meanwhile I'm still using a D3300 lol

@@potatofuryy That was my first Nikon! Hey, it's a good camera. I used it over two years and got lots of nice shots.

You should fill ZERO embarrassment about rocking a fantastic Nikon D850 😁. That camera remains a beast and the king of DSLR land, the files are gorgeous!🔥Many of us mere financial mortals are not ready to take that costly mirrorless leap yet, especially for those that the Nikon DSLR’s are still more than enough gear. I look forward to Z9 technology trickling down, but in the meantime I am a happy Nikon DSLR girl.

It will be interesting what the next models have. The Z6 has better low light performance than the Z7. But you need at least 39mp for 8k video. Even many say you don’t need 8k video, trust me. When will be using it for digital cropping, panning and zooming in post.

Im also a D750 owner waiting patiently for a Nikon mirrorless to upgrade to. Hopefully a Z6 III with Z9 AF will be announced soon. Im glad I didn't jump in on the MK 1 and MK 2, they never excited me at all. I was also worried the company may not make it long term. I still believe the future could be rocky if they don't get a camera out that can compete with the R6/A74.

I would wait until the end of the year. If it is not a 3rd gen, then it will be a Z9 in a smaller body.

I have been thru this and it was crazy. Loved my Z6 and even got the z7ii. I went for shoot where the Autofocus really frustrated me. Many shots I thought i got were soft or missed focus when I reviewed it. I sold off all my Nikon gear and lenses and bought into Canon R5. Great camera but every time I saw pictures I took with my Nikon, I felt like crying. I missed the colors and feel. The pictures just ddnt look ‘alright ‘ like i was used to with Nikon. And more than anything, the RF glasses were killing my wallet! So many good lenses that I couldn’t afford and I found myself putting cheap glasses on the really good R5. I sold all the RF system again after 6months and I am back with Nikon z6ii now. I got some of the best Nikon lenses both Z and F just at the fraction of what the RF was costing me . Dont get me wrong, I lost a lot of money in the sales and trades but I love my pictures more now. I am happy to wait for the next z6iii or z7iii because I know they will have features from the z9. You will have to settle for what is most important to you and your work. Ill say give it a few more months and see if you come around to love working with the Sony. Its a really good system and all but its no Nikon.

come on back to nikon...LOL you know where home is.

He's got a T shirt coming - and one for Chelsea as well!.

Buy any Z ..... after the DSLR, another planet

The Z 6 II might be what you should upgrade to. My D 300 sits on a shelf. Took some great photos, but cameras have vastly improved! Hell a D7500 will blow the doors off a D300S.

@Tony & Chelsea Northrup - you really need to do something about these scam artists .. you're getting a lot of them.

yup that two way tilting screen is nice...

The tilting screen is now a major feauture all new camera models should consider. So much helpful in creating better compositions.

The A1 is now a year old and still has better auto focus, the next Sony update will. change minds about which camera is the ultimate, plus the lens line up is better on the Sony.

@Photo Bunny There are more lens choices for Sony, native lenses plus all the third party support.

it's so appalling when I hear about Sony's lens line up compared to canon and nikon. Sounds like the ops has no ideas of other systems and kinda parrots what others say ignorantly. Don't forget tilt shift lenses, vintage, and an exotic number of long lenses from canon and nikon.

If you are a video shooter, 160GB with the new specs is not doable. Clearly the A1 is a brilliant camera. But that one thing would rule the A1 out for me.

Yeah it's so weird that such an amazing camera is held back by memory card availability! WTF.

For flying birds 30 FPS raw is a big deal. I shoot most sports in JPG, but if it's say motocross where the sun might be in the shot, raw can help that.

@@TonyAndChelsea I saw a demo where the A1 shot 30 FPS for 4-5 seconds then slowed up vs the Z9 shooting 20 FPS sustained for 15 seconds can you verify this. Also you cant use the tracking on the A1 to achieve 30 FPS right?

I start with Nikon years ago and now I own a lot of Sony gear. The Z9 is an amazing camera but at the end for me the lens collection is very important. And what Sony did in the last years are stunning. You date the body but you marry the lens 😉I will not switch back from Sony but competition is good for us as a customer.

The sony A7R IV has a native range from 100-32000. Anything beyond that is extended, whether it be above or below.

@@JuanSanchez-zz3me ok but what does that mean though? like it's fake sensor sensativity?

I would have to say this is the best summation of the camera industry I have ever read.

@@andrewmason8691 thanks! Surely I am not the only one outside the KZfaq/social media hype, that doesn’t rely on sponsors, ads, and affiliates to generate income having this kind of views... on the other hand I earned my firs few bucks taking pictures 25 odd years ago after having messed about with cameras for almost 15; I soon realised that I had to be in the right place at the right time, I had to know how to use the equipment at its best, I had to know how to translate a concept into reality, and more importantly that it made almost no difference what equipment I was using as long as it was decent.

Ordered that last night to try it out :D

@@TonyAndChelsea Angelbird 512GB AV PRO CFexpress 2.0 Type B SE Memory Card. $179. Looks like 850 sustained write

Hi Tommy!!

Yes!!!

I don't think they were ever gone..People just think a camera should do everything for them..with an EVF a new shooter will never learn how to expose properly...I'm still happy with the D500 for bif

I use the Z fc a LOT. And I own the Z 9 and Z 6 II......

You can’t go wrong with either, but changing systems is a big deal imho

Ricci Talks of UK and Matt Irwin have addressed that. Since I NEVER buy 2.8 lens now as my 2.8 Nikon lens era was in the 1980s..... I have not experienced this problem. But that is a set up and use issue. My audience demands WIDE depth of field so I shoot at f 8 as much as possible.

Why though? What does it do that closing the shutter doesn't do? Also no mechanical shutter means it has a 1/200 sync speed.

@@TonyAndChelsea The dust cover is more sturdy than mechanical shutters, which are delicate and easy to damage. Having a dedicated dust cover means you don't get dust on your sensor when you change lenses as it can be closed when you remove the lenses. Do your other other mirrorless cameras close their shutters over when you change lenses?

@@TonyAndChelsea Do you realise that sometimes of the "dust" is occasionally tiny debris off the actual shutter? Not having a shutter should decrease the times you need to clean the sensor which is a positive. Also the dust cover is instant and probably much more effective in protecting the sensor. I guess time will tell.

The return answer from Tony and Chelsea was very far off the mark. The Nikon Z 9 sensor shield is SO GOOD it will change cameras going forward. Christopher Sal is RIGHT! I bought the Z 9 for as much that reason is any after the announcement. IT WILL hopefully end up on a D500 mirrorless update.....DX is a big part of Nikon sales and the camera companies who drop APS-C cameras will suffer losses! I use FX and DX a LOT. I also would point out smartphones don't get the dust on the sensor problems that plague cameras. IF they did, an iPhone would be far less popular than it is!

@@TheTigers00001 YOU are right here. The sensor shield of the Z 9 is an advancement of GREAT value. It will be copied on MANY cameras going forward. Smartphones which take MOST of the photos today would be scrap soon if they had that dust on the sensor problem.

I agree, Nikon have to catch up with both Sony and Nikon re native mirrorless super telephotos and super zooms.

No, I don't think this will be the case. I think the 800mm f/6.3 will be a PF lens and as such it should be remarkably small (for an 800mm) and also much less $ than a normal 800mm f/5.6. As an example, the current Nikon 500mm f/4 AF-S Nikkor FL ED VR is going for $10,296.95 on Adorama while the the Nikon 500mm f/5.6 E PF ED VR lens is going for $3,596.95 on the same site. You can see that the PF lens going for about 35% of the price of the 'big boy'. It is a stop slower, but at the same time it is much smaller and lighter and the IQ is comparable - so it is an incredible value for the money. The current Nikon 800mm AF-S Nikkor f/5.6 E FL ED VR lens with the built in 1.4 Teleconverter is going for $16,296.95. Assuming the new 800mm lens is a PF version, and if we apply the same roughly 35% of the price, then the 800mm 6.3 S line lens could be as little as $5,700. I am thinking that it will be a PF as its silhouette on the Nikon lens roadmap is clearly smaller than the upcoming 600mm - by this I infer that it must be a PF or some other tech that makes the lens smaller and lighter at the expense of some speed. Still there is no guarantee that it will be 35% of the price just because the 500 PF is 35% of the full 500mm's price but this should be a reasonable gauge. Also, the 800mm f/5.6 has a built in teleconverter making it an even more expensive lens, the 800 6.3 S will most certainly not have this feature, so perhaps it will be a little less than $5,700. Still, at $5,700 it is not cheap, but this becomes in the realm of affordability for serious hobbyists, whereas $16k is probably out of the question at any point. Also, $5,700 puts it at the same approximate price point as the 200mm f/2 - Nikon's premier portrait lens and although expensive many portrait and wedding photographers did stretch to get it. Still, the 500 PF is a full stop slower than the normal 500, so it is strange that this potential 800 PF would only be 1/3 of a stop slower than the big boy - that seems almost too good - like why would anyone pay the extra 11K for a third of a stop - but it does have the teleconverter so who knows. Either way, the fact that the 800mm is smaller than the upcoming 600mm and the fact that they definitely announced that it is a f/6.3 indicates that this is intended to be a PF type of lens (by this I mean a smaller and lighter and presumably more affordable version of the lens - not necessarily PF tech - IDK). Either way, I think it is safe to say that it will not exceed $6000 and so it will be affordable to those that really, really want it and can save up a little.

@@baronsilverton6504 Hmm perhaps it does seem like it will be a PF lens here's the press release:. "The NIKKOR Z 800mm f/6.3 VR S is an S-Line* lens, delivering powerful rendering with outstanding resolution while thoroughly reducing color bleeding. By adopting a PF (Phase Fresnel) lens for the first time in a NIKKOR Z model, a compact and lightweight body is realized, making it highly portable despite being a super-telephoto lens. With its high rendering performance and superb mobility, this lens will reliably support the imaging expression of many photographers ranging from advanced amateurs to professionals." I hope its more sub $6k that would be a nice surprise

@@jasond1500 Great - there is confirmation of what seemed very likely anyway just by looking at the silhouette and size of the lens. WIth this knowledge, I would guess that it should be under $6k - I think this is the breaking point number where many advanced hobbyists will stretch to get a lens. Anything above this and certainly anything that is 5 digits (10k and more) are pretty much off the table for all but agencies and very specific and specialized pros that work in niche fields. Maybe they will surprise us an keep it below $5k but I kind of doubt this, but as long as it is less than $6k my guess is that it will sell very well indeed.

Not everything if you look at the bigger picture. The 24-70F4S used open-box is $450 and outperforms the 24-70 f-mount 2.8 glass. The two compact primes are cheaper than f-mount 1.8G's, half the size, and match their performance. The 1.8S primes outperform 1.4G primes that are larger, heavier, and more expensive. I need fewer lenses with the z-mount than f-mount. You get more for your dollar. They also aren't depreciating like f-mount gear will. ;)

I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others. Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras. As for working in the dark. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.

Yes will do

@@TonyAndChelsea Great! I'm sure you'll find it interesting... (including the DR test that is). Way to go Tony.

@@TonyAndChelsea I forgot to mention it: it would be useful to use the same lens adapted to the Z system... if you've a Zeiss sitting around or a Sigma Art that should do... but use the same lens pls.

Nikon MOST needs to make a highly featured D7200 or D7500 or most requested D500. I use DX cameras far more than the FX. I have the Z 9 and Z 6 II and the Sony A I. This DX bashing is ignoring its huge benefits!