Darien, King of Hitting Himself Deck Tech

Darien, King of Hitting Himself Deck Tech | Commander Tune-Ups #67

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It's a Darien deck tech, an upgrade to a deck submitted by our amazing Patron Moesis! Hope this doesn't stink for ya, Moesis!
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Full list of adds and cuts:
ADDS:
Tragic Arrogance
Sword of the Animist
Welcoming Vampire
Selfless Spirit
Giant Killer
Idol of Oblivion
Keeper of the Accord
Cathars’ Crusade
Catapult Master
Loyal Warhound
Harmonious Archon
Warping Wail
Fabled Passage
War Room
Scavenger Grounds
Castle Ardenvale
CUTS:
Luminous Broodmoth
Scroll Rack
Candelabra of Tawnos
Sivvi’s Valor
Blood of the Martyr
Tithe
Giver of Rune
Hour of Revelation
Guardian of Faith
Manascape Refractor
Ajani, Strength of the Pride
Court of Grace
Remorseful Cleric
Snow-Covered Plains
Snow-Covered Plains
Plains

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@jonasvincent3099 2 жыл бұрын

I think that Scout’s Warning would be perfect for this deck. People often won’t attack then Darion is out. Flash him out when attackers has been declared. Get your soldiers.

@qwormuli77 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, never underestimate a one mana cantrip that has a potential for a blowout.

@billyquick 2 жыл бұрын

Passing with 7+ mana up in a mono W deck is mad suspicious, though. No one will just attack you like you’re not sitting on a Settle the Wreckage or something. Too cute imo

@fosterark 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Darien deck and my favorite card for this deck is Jade Monolith. One generic mana, redirect damage from one creature to myself at instant speed and I can do that on my enemies' creatures and at instant speed. What's better than building my board during my turn? BUILDING IT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S TURN. Also, it's super political too.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

DAAANG, thanks Moesis!

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds you absolutely nailed it!

@yosefzanerva806 2 жыл бұрын

Regarding the Cathars' Crusade, what you want to do is put all your creatures in one area, with one+1/+1 counter above that area. When the next batch of creatures come in, add a counter to the first area, put the second batch in a different area, and put a single +1/+1 counter on the new area. And so on for the third, fourth, and fifth. Suck it, Moses.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Still not sucking it! Best recommendation so far though. But still WAY too inconvenient for my blood. Nope!

@TahuNuva2008 2 жыл бұрын

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 Moeses please just do it T_T

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

@@TahuNuva2008 not gonna happen!

@TahuNuva2008 2 жыл бұрын

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 -_-

@RecoveringSpartan 2 жыл бұрын

Cathars crusade feels like such a chore to play in paper I totally agree

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

thanks! i thought im the only one :)

@davidcohn8444 2 жыл бұрын

Love my Darien deck, its probably not as strong as it could be, but I built it around a holy crusaders theme and its a bunch of fun

@ben_clifford 2 жыл бұрын

21:34 That ending earned a like

@richardwagner4481 2 жыл бұрын

Never hit a like button so fast. Darien is my first and longest running commander deck.

@OmegaMTG 2 жыл бұрын

Love these submitted tune-ups. Thank you guys.

@maxmazza2987 2 жыл бұрын

Joe's shirt brought back some memories. Also, happy to see some love for Haromnious Archon, I've ran it in multiple go wide decks to great effect.

@erikohman2294 2 жыл бұрын

I play it in Alesha, where most nontokens have power 2 or less. Love it.

@firstandlast.1254 2 жыл бұрын

Man, these Tune-Ups are hot hot hot!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Just like YOU

@stevenjoubertofficial 2 жыл бұрын

No joke! These tune ups have been crazy

@chrishiggins2651 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely LOVE Cathar’s Crusade but there is no efficient way of tracking it that exists lol

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! It's really good, but WAY too inconvenient to play IMO. In a casual setting I happily lose some win% cutting it in favor of more fluent gameplay

@derHexenhammer Жыл бұрын

Fire and brimstone is secretly great in this deck. The floor is 4 damage to you and 4 damage to an opponent you make 4 1/1s. Ceiling is 8 damage to yourself you gain 8/16/24 life create 8 1/1s. Seems solid for 3ww at Instant speed.

@rahasyabharaniah1391 2 жыл бұрын

To count cathars, just make groups of tokens. Put one dice over them that indicates the +1/+1. So a 1 die above like 10 tokens means all of them have a +1/+1.

@mrconchapelua 2 жыл бұрын

Lunarch Veteran is a new one for this deck

@CantEvenfly2 2 жыл бұрын

I think catapult master will only need to fire the target creature out of the catapult if its indestructible.

@astuteanansi4935 2 жыл бұрын

The 5 soldiers are not to man the catapult, they're to subdue the creature and load it into the catapult

@TheDwiest 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for introducing me to warping wail!

@alexredins4803 2 жыл бұрын

1:15 made me smile when you said you got custom ones :)

@mrMothiel 2 жыл бұрын

Hold on a second! Darien is my favorite edh deck. I have it as a soldier tribal (what a surprise, I know) and only now after couple of years I'm finding out he's soldier himself? I have original copy from Coldsnap which says Human Lord and not Human Soldier. I feel kind of stupid right now 😀 I was always thinking how cool it would be if he was soldier as well... Wells this information improved my deck without making any changes to it. Thank you 😀

@mrMothiel 2 жыл бұрын

Also Strixhaven stadium is really fun in this deck. And Eldrazi monument is often game over.

@uphillwalrus5164 2 жыл бұрын

Lord is no longer a creature type and all previous Lords have been errata’d

@lijana 2 жыл бұрын

I also only recently realized that he had been made a soldier as well. Auto upgrade.

@newtpondskipper 2 жыл бұрын

In mono white I'll never agree that scroll rack isn't amazing. So useful for getting better choices, it's scroll rack you know what it can do.

@SirPoonga 2 жыл бұрын

I am now convinced your group's meta is way different than mine. Some of the cards you cut like Blood of the Martyr, are all stars in the deck. At least with my group. Our decks are very similar. I opted for Aetherflux Reservoir and Test of Endurance for wincons. Storm Herd is also in mine for a wincon. I wish I could afford a Mana Crypt for mine. I went opposite with lands. I kept pain lands but more plains so Emeria triggers. I have also taken the Dingus Staff/Ashnod's Altar combo out because I had Dingus Staff backfire way too many times. It's a neat trick, but just a trick.

@maxloggins2930 2 жыл бұрын

The cat. A new member of the NITPICKING NERDS!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Amber has always been our third member

@knixsilva1 2 жыл бұрын

Court of grace incentivizes players to hit you, which synergizes with Darien don’t think it should be cut

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

exactly! i'll keep it over cathars crusade :D

@erikohman2294 2 жыл бұрын

I started making this deck but couldnt finish it. Cards in my pool that I miss here are Relic vial and Goblin Lyre.

@bradwinward1237 2 жыл бұрын

1,000,000 views for a cat cameo!? Let's do it yall! We just need 10,000 people to watch it 100 times and we should be good. I'm doing my part!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

We appreciate your work

@brendanleach5321 2 жыл бұрын

More tune up's! Love ittttt

@danielgoldberg2129 2 жыл бұрын

Love this content! I am always tweaking my EDH decks. (I have a LOT of them. 😂) Fresh eyes on one of my faves would be fun! Edit: Cats always make videos better!

@draverraj 2 жыл бұрын

Darien, Ping of Kjeldor

@coolkidavid 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, I was wondering why you wouldn't add in a By Invitation Only in the board wipe slot, as i feel like it would be good considering the amount of creatures you have.

@Kef_09 2 жыл бұрын

My Derian deck has a hard lock with a 3 card combo. Elesh Norn, Kormus Bell, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

thats super mean! i love it :D ill keep that in mind if i want to power it up a lil. thats too evil for my aimed pow lvl ^^

@Kef_09 2 жыл бұрын

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 there 2 other cards that can be use, Karma and Crusading knight. With this 2 you can use the Urborg for more than one reason.

@dillonhelpingstine9002 2 жыл бұрын

the Kjeldoran Cunning theme deck got me back into Magic in 05. Love this masochist!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, you and Magic go way back!

@DashOfSalt84 2 жыл бұрын

Haven't looked at the deck yet, but I literally just built Darien! Does it have a good number of anthems? I actually cut skullclamp(sad face!) cause my tokens we're always 2/2 or better when I drew it.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

I do have some, but not many. More of a late game thing a la elesh norn. Skullclamp is absolutely insane in (my version of) the deck. I run phyrexian altar as well as ramp/combo piece, so I got some reach even if my soldiers are buffed

@Dumannios 2 жыл бұрын

Darien is my favorite commander and I'll shout it from the rooftops every time. Question though. I'm seeing fetchlands in this deck... Am I missing what they're for? Paying life does not equal taking damage so they don't trigger Darien.

@clarkwilmerding4343 2 жыл бұрын

field of the dead shenanigans

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! I run them as they provide lots of incremental value. Field triggers, I can use weathered wayfarer in response to cracking them to get below the required landcount, they are ramp with brought back, sevinnes reclamation etc etc. Oh, and they shuffle my library after scrollrack, but the nerds cut that card. Fetches still are dope though

@sethhale8828 2 жыл бұрын

Good build

@Cantthinkofname-rp3iw 2 жыл бұрын

Would you guys do planeswalkers as commanders for a deck tech?

@jlateralus21 2 жыл бұрын

I love my Darien deck. It's usually a target right away, which sucks because Darien is so expensive to cast ...

@burningpapersun1 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the cat sits around and nitpicks the nerds.

@apeturez1629 2 жыл бұрын

You guys are awesome! keep up the great content

@erikohman2294 2 жыл бұрын

This feels like a neat home for coveted jewel! Then again thats probably not Spike enough for a tune up.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Had that in my list for quite some time! Love the card

@hill975 2 жыл бұрын

for creature wipes, why not run by invitation only?

@jonathanvogels1690 2 жыл бұрын

@Nitpicking Nerds Would you be willing to try upgrading a high Power Korvold Deck without pushing It into Cedh?

@travisbrown1893 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats to Moses for never losing a commander game ever again.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

thanks ^^

@permafrost2064 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys! So, I have a question; I really want you guys to do a tune up for one of my decks, but I cant afford more than one month of the Patreon fee for this tier. Can I just do one month and still get the perks, or do I have to remain a Patron for multiple months to be considered? Love the content, keep up the good work!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

One month is all it takes for any of the Patreon perks!

@joshuagidcumb6805 2 жыл бұрын

We better see that cat 😤

@DocProfFoxBeard 2 жыл бұрын

I dont have a solution for the Cathar Crusade, but I still just wanted to say, Suck it Moesis!

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

i hate you doc

@gohan1300 2 жыл бұрын

Deck tech on beezys Eloise deck :) would love to see that

@uphillwalrus5164 2 жыл бұрын

Archangel of Thune is basically a second copy of Cathar’s Crusade

@ben_clifford 2 жыл бұрын

I preferred when the supporter names were ordered by name. It was easier to anticipate when my name would fly by. Is that a little vain? Yes. But sometimes it's the small things in life, amiright?

@busterbros 2 жыл бұрын

I would swap out Serra Ascendant for Lunarch Veteran. Having a soul sister out is so important and having two out is a blast.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

I'm 100% adding the veteran, but I dont think I'll cut the ascendant for it. Personal attachment to the card, I just like making people sweat dropping it T1

@busterbros 2 жыл бұрын

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 Good point that is a fun card for sure

@Vill1988 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys. Been subbed for a while! You are my number one channel for EDH info! It's fun to watch how each video you are getting better and better. Would love to see you guys do a Commander game on youtube! It would be great!

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

They are in fact currently working on it! They did a Kickstarter to finance the equipment. That's why I got this tune-up, was part of the supporter tier

@nobodyfromnowwhere7510 Жыл бұрын

With how many board wipes exile or sac, I think spirit losses to Guardian. Especially when your playing a 6 mana commander in a white deck. It also dodges mass bounce. 1 extra mana is worth the added insurance AND the fact that it has flash.

@jameswalterii1911 2 жыл бұрын

Yes to the cat!

@draverraj 2 жыл бұрын

Darien, King of Ping!!

@firelahti 2 жыл бұрын

I play mainly mono white. I prefer Spirit Guardians over Selfless Spirit. The amount of board wipes now that exile or sacrifice is surprisingly high. The Phasing out and instant speed of Spirit Guardians is often better than the very telegraphed Selfless Spirit.

@zackkelley2940 2 жыл бұрын

Cyclonic Rift... that is all. If there's a sure thing in Commander... It's that the blue player WILL have cyclonic rift. Also Teferi's Protection is a one-off, Spirit Guardian isn't.

@crovax1375 2 жыл бұрын

Martyr's Bond is very good in this deck

@Yargle1 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting one

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@henryhall298 2 жыл бұрын

if y'all think cutting the Blood of the Martyr is a good idea then you havent played a Darien deck

@jacopoabbruscato9271 Жыл бұрын

I don't think Blasting Station can combo with just Darien and a Soul sister. Aren't you sacrificing the same token you just created to activate blasting station over and over?

@mariomont9174 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but you active the triggers of the other cards in the battlefield with each new token 1/1

@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 2 жыл бұрын

Joe: First we have to read the card... *Cue in educational jingle: Reading the card explains the card. -LOL I like the deck but I find it funny that your mana base is crazy for Field of the Dead to activate makes me wonder if the deck would be stronger with just plains? -I know it is a bad card but I've always liked this silly card, Personal Incarnation, would it's death trigger ''Lose half your life'' work with Darien? -Was Nomads Assembly considered? :P

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

i play field in every deck out of principle ^^ i just love the card, and im gonna make it work. with the words of dark confidant: greatness, at any cost! personal incarnation sadly wouldnt work, life loss isnt damage, but all damage makes you lose life :) never considered nomads assembly, but it feels kinda winmore to me. i could talk about that deck the whole day, its my baby :D if you want to enjoy my ramblings more, join the discord ;)

@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 2 жыл бұрын

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 Rats, I figured the loss of life wouldn't work but always good to check :P

@kieranwouter2361 2 жыл бұрын

That mana value change is unacceptable! Without tithe how will he ever pay that much for spells!

@BozzLightyr 2 жыл бұрын

Nice coat / jacket, Beezy.

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :D

@starfox5837 2 жыл бұрын

Yes to the kitty

@olsgtchewie6913 2 жыл бұрын

No SoulBoy? Lunarch Veteran seems like a sound choice here...

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Good call! 1cmc is amazing indeed

@igolark 2 жыл бұрын

You forgot the best combo of the deck. Karma + yawgmoth

@TheAmazingSpiderman87 2 жыл бұрын

0:00-0:07, Darien cat tribal?

@PoopinaBucket 2 жыл бұрын

For Cathar’s Crusade. I just put 1 spin down on the card and look at the dice to tell my opponent how many counters are on the board. Suck it Moses. And if you haven’t played harmonious archon with the crusade on the battlefield, get your 2nd spin down ready

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

but it doesnt work if creatures enter after each other! they wont have the same amount of counters! so far im not convinced! :D

@Murwiz 2 жыл бұрын

Why no Anointer Priest?

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't play it bcs its worse than the ones I run already. And with all the creature tutors already increasing consistency I'd rather added other cards

@tayoooyanggg 2 жыл бұрын

this deck is literally doomsday gettin smacked and growing in size...

@Servbot40 2 жыл бұрын

This is funny i was just playing this deck last night, and had to be focused because you know... white too strong I guess.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone underestimates white

@Servbot40 2 жыл бұрын

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 Problem is no one underestimates me...

@edgarpaz4777 2 жыл бұрын

I'm only here cause of the cat in the thumbnail

@ericlawson3555 2 жыл бұрын

Here b4 the 1 million views

@Dark-Pikachu1 2 жыл бұрын

😻

@Hashbrown1682 2 жыл бұрын

Irl, look for someone who's as excited about you, as Beezy is excited about Field of the Dead.

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

If you find that connection, marry them on the spot

@Hashbrown1682 2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds Exactly!

@st0rts11D4 2 жыл бұрын

I made a huge mistake when I built mine. I just sort of assumed people would be attacking me. I only put 2 ways to deal damage to myself in the deck. Bad choice.

@nickleewright 2 жыл бұрын

Unm why in the world would you not include Luminarch Ascension or jade Monolith or much protection Darian? I mean to be able to stick on the board he needs hexproof/shroud/indestructible to even have a chance of sticking on the board and the deck does nothing without him. Just been playing Darian for a very long time and although I have 40+ decks, Darian is my favorite. I have spent 16 mana before just to recast Darian so yeah... he draws TONS of hate.

@nickleewright 2 жыл бұрын

Luminarch Ascension is awesome in the deck because if they hit you so it doesn't activate... then great! You get a bunch of soldiers... if they don't hit you then great! .. You overwhelme the board with angels! As far as jade Monolith it is awesome!... it will get you so many soldiers out of nowhere and will let you get chip damage in wherever you want (once the opponents realize if they block, you will get more soldiers).

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickleewright both cards are really good for the deck for sure! sadly i only have 100 deckslots, and i just prefer other cards, even if they might be less powerful :) i have a 100+ maybe pile and keep swapping things out occasionally to keep things fresh

@jaggededge11 2 жыл бұрын

I think Tithe is worth it (But definitely not worth purchasing if they don't already have it).

@joefuller3886 Жыл бұрын

meh, use the angel replacement enchantment and bishop of wings, you get 4 life per 1 angel you get..

@TheKamiAndKami 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to hear how the Nitpicking Nerds would upgrade my 5 color (Kaladesh-)Energy themed deck (Kenrith Commander) sadly cant patreonize atm. Love ur videos dudes

@obadijahparks 2 жыл бұрын

Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, why you keep hitting yourself?!

@jamesbenis3734 2 жыл бұрын

I play a Darien deck, and when I wanna keep track of Cathars Crusade I just put the amount of counters I’ve added onto the Cathar card. and I add it to each creature when I atttack

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't work, because I don't play 1 swatch of simultaneously entering creatures. They pile up over time, requiring their own track keeping. Still not sucking it!

@TahuNuva2008 2 жыл бұрын

I love cats but this ain't about you, Amber

@imprisonedmike 2 жыл бұрын

More cats please!

@chrisl9782 2 жыл бұрын

Yes to cat

@troyhenquinet5953 2 жыл бұрын

No talk about Karma+Urborg?! Come on! Where are my true Darien players at? Also Angel of Glory's Rise has a decent combo with Fiend Hunter.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

My original build had that! In the end I ended up cutting it as I wanted to try out other stuff, the list is more or less in constant flux. There are SO MANY cool cards for darien, but sadly only 100 deckslots. I keep it in mind though, probably adding it again eventually, such a cool interaction

@Dino-rl4vo 2 жыл бұрын

KITTY!!!!11!1!1!!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

She’s so cute

@stepanrebik6776 2 жыл бұрын

Yo Moses, If you make 6 tokens with Cathars Crusade out, you go 6 counters on the first one, 5, 4 etc and 1 on the last - no dice turning.

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

The problem is the 100 tokens after that. Every following tokens increases the count, and gets increased by the ones following them. It's a hassle

@plain6677 2 жыл бұрын

A nerd cat?!

@mod.3x 2 жыл бұрын

Cat cute or stinky?

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Stinky, but not in the smelly way, AND cute

@thechestrockfield 2 жыл бұрын

You have a cat?!? Why isn't in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE?!

@ThorMan91587 2 жыл бұрын

You try convincing a mercurial beastie to cooperate for longer than five minutes

@thechestrockfield 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThorMan91587 My cat was extremely well trained. Came when I called him. Would lay down on command. Lead us around the Frisbee Golf course (actually knew the course and walked in front of us). Pooped outside (I didn't have a litter box). Would tap on the window of the room I was in to let me know he wanted to come back inside. Cats are brilliant. Thinking they can't be trained is a ridiculous myth.

@ThorMan91587 2 жыл бұрын

@@thechestrockfield chill. Nowhere did I say they were untrainable. I was being facetious

@thechestrockfield 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThorMan91587 Did you not say they were untrainable, or were you being facetious? I'm perfectly chill. Just trying to debunk myths.

@GusJKlaus 2 жыл бұрын

I use darien as 99 in my heliod deck, cuz then i give a lose/lose choice to my opponents: let me get infinite life, or give me million of tokens hahaha

@j.e.v.b394 2 жыл бұрын

more cat pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Noted!

@RD-xf4yg 2 жыл бұрын

what is the cat's name? We want answers.

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Her name is Amber! I actually mention at the end :)

@breawycker 2 жыл бұрын

Heh kitty

@gladvlad2755 2 жыл бұрын

CAT

@verlandes1 2 жыл бұрын

The cutest guys plus a cat?? Stop it.

@elipetrou9308 2 жыл бұрын

Cat

@daltynfowler364 2 жыл бұрын

FIRST BABY

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@chaseladely2253 2 жыл бұрын

where is the commander game play didnt people pay to see commander game play

@douglasfoley2060 2 жыл бұрын

I have the ultimate Darien deck.........no ones build comes close to mine.

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

Decklist??

@douglasfoley2060 2 жыл бұрын

@@NitpickingNerds want me post it on this comment or you got an email? Lolz

@dino-wer-kuh3498 2 жыл бұрын

@@douglasfoley2060 im interested as well! ^^ you can join the discord and show it off there!

@richardwagner4481 2 жыл бұрын

Doubt 🧐, but it's not hard to get on the internet lol

@douglasfoley2060 2 жыл бұрын

@@dino-wer-kuh3498 don’t do social media besides KZfaq. I’ll just post it up under this comment. I’ll do it soon.

@richmondlau5945 2 жыл бұрын

too fast, it was literally uploaded 1 min ago!

@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын

So early!