NIU Electric Scooter 60V 26Ah Battery Repair, issue appears after charging it at high temperatures

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Issue : This problem occurs when the batteries are charging at high temperatures, NIU diagnose device shows charging at 54 degrees!
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NIU (pronounced "new") are an innovative company producing high quality electric scooters with Bosch rear wheel motors. Combining high build quality and light weight frames, these electric scooters offer ranges of up to 50 miles on a single battery. These mopeds a huge hit throughout European cities with commuters and scooter share schemes alike. With a dedicated app, GPS tracking, lightweight removable battery and 3100W of power.

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@tszonline6159 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice one! They used better screws in the GTS battery than in n1s... but the case is much come complicated to open.

@ruthmoreton6975 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. My main ride right now is a GTS-Pro ( dual battery ). It's fine right now but I collect videos on how to fix it for when it does break.

@freshmaker5 10 ай бұрын

What do the wires coming out of the battery do? The two thick wires go to the controller but what do the three thin wires do and what do you hook them to?

@jonvaldezcars Жыл бұрын

Random question. Do these battery packs have the output enabled by default? If i wanted to use the power output for something else, is it possible or do I have to communicate with the BMS somehow to make it turn on?

@Gehtdichnichtsan583 3 ай бұрын

Is there a way to wake up the bms or is it necessary to wake up the bms?

@oogabooga4006 Жыл бұрын

Can I use one of these packs in a different scooter model by opening it up and using a different connector? Current scooter is a dual motor 60V, current battery is 67.2V. Could this battery be repurposed to work with a GX16-3 charger?

@01ai01 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Found this because I was curious if these are repairable.

@fixscooter 7 ай бұрын

Hola, me podrá decir el modelo de ese scanner por favor?

@jb9282 6 ай бұрын

🎉 thx ! Die you recharge disbalance cells with you Labor Power 60v / 2A ? After you did use again a NIU charger ? PS - you don’t need to open for measurements - on the long connector you can do it directly each cell .😊

@mareklimanowski687 Жыл бұрын

This BMS don,t need reset or unlock after repair ?

@orlatris96 8 ай бұрын

Show, meus sinceros parabéns.

@kerekreatif 9 ай бұрын

Brother may i ask, can we upgrade the battery used same tipe but with a bigger mAh? Thankyou

@EVCustoms 9 ай бұрын

Yes you can do that..

@jimzucker 11 ай бұрын

How do you take that battery out of sleep mode?

@jairotrocha8020 2 жыл бұрын

amazing! gracias por enseñarnos de manera clara como es internamente esta batería. donde puedo conseguir el analizador de batería que usaste en tu video?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Hi... can you translate in English? Thank you..

@jairotrocha8020 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms Thanks for clearly showing us what this battery looks like internally. Where can I get the battery analyzer you used in your video?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

@@jairotrocha8020 Unfortunately only from dealers..

@agreen3092 Жыл бұрын

The white wire disconnected the one that goes to the charging port but not inside. Ever since it’s been turning off could it be that?

@ChaseMavrick Жыл бұрын

What is the name of that analyzer?

@antolinbr Жыл бұрын

Do you have to wake up the bms after swapping cells? If I want to swap all old cells due to wear is this procedure working?

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

If your cells have same voltages balancing no needed, yes if you change them successfully everything will be fine.

@antolinbr Жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms thanks for your response. Subscribed now onwards 🥰.

@cristiangonzalez413 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I have a battery and evertime I connected to my scooter it turn on and off we out me touching it can u tell me was wrong

@ROBB_DEEP Жыл бұрын

The plug-in device @ 0:38/0:40 where can I get it? 🤔 @EV - Customs

@igorkvachun3572 2 жыл бұрын

Yes Akb 👍🔋⚡

@julio1496 Жыл бұрын

Hello where i can get the diagnostic computer you have

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

The diagnostic device is from NIU dealer, i don't know if you can have it from NIU company if not a dealer..

@mjr2567 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I recently got a Niu Nqi GTS Pro which has 60v 35Ah batteries, I believe. One of them takes longer to charge and discharges faster. The last two days after charging to 80%, when I wanted to charge higher, first the battery would not charge with the splitter and then when slightly more charged would not charge by itself. Today it shows 5 lights flashing... In your opinion, does this means it has faulty cells?

@peterpulp 2 жыл бұрын

Hello I am Greek to!! In this battery can we add more cells parallel to extend range or it will not work?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Petros.. Of course you can do that.. the only thing you must manege is to find space..

@peterpulp 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply!! If we talk for 10 or 15 amps more I think the existing space is enough. If you agree!!

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

@@peterpulp If tou find 3.5Ah 18650 cells... yes you can make 35Ah battery, extra 9Ah.

@peterpulp 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!!

@morteza926 2 ай бұрын

thanks

@channyroeun3122 2 жыл бұрын

Which 18650 battery cell specification require for this replacement? Example: 2700nAh, 3.6V, maximune discharge 6A?

@ericklein5097 Жыл бұрын

Yep I kept watching and its 6:07

@andresrios1000 Жыл бұрын

Where can i get manual from this battery?? PDF or online.

@freshmaker5 10 ай бұрын

Did you find one

@JBoek30 2 жыл бұрын

BRAVE :D

@slookify 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, what can I do if I left the battery connected for a week. Now one battery is at 0%, and I can not load it. Can I use an external power supply with higher voltage to bring it back? Can we disbale the ECU, just to load the battery. NIU seems to block it

@jackjone12221 Жыл бұрын

Hi, you need to use the small charger (NQi Sport) to wake it up because it is in undervoltage protection state now and the big charger couldn't wake it up.

@Canadian_Eh_I 10 ай бұрын

How prone are these NIU batteries to exploding?? please someone let me know I recharge mine pretty close to where I sleep

@ebikebatteryrepair Жыл бұрын

you put new cells with 2.5ah but other old cells in the pack not 2.5 because they old maybe 2ah left in them.dont you think that will cost unbalance or over charging problem in the future ?

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

If we put new with old ones, at the end we must balance the batteries at the full voltage state 4.2V, to make it work properly.

@slscooterco 2 жыл бұрын

I have 2 brand new NIU 60v 26a batteries that had been sitting for 8 months. 1 charges and the other does not. One shows 64v and the dead one shows 8v. How can I revive the dead battery so it charges again? Thank you

@MrAlalom 2 жыл бұрын

Please go to your dealer ASAP and try to charge it with the small 60V charger to wake it up from over-discharged protection state

@emmazhou8853 Жыл бұрын

battery manufature : www.hhpwr.com

@fotoamgamgfoto3695 Жыл бұрын

is it a 17S20P pack? hmm no 17S10P as they are upside down in 10P blocks?

@dotternetta 2 жыл бұрын

At heavy use my batteries show 45 degrees C. I watched the video, but what excactly was broken?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

At 45 degrees temperature the charging is problem... can damage one cell and this one cell will discharge the other parallel cells... you will see unbalanced cells.

@dotternetta 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms Hmm..but I need the time to recharge to get back home. Does it matter if I fast charge or slow charge?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

@@dotternetta When you say fast charge? how many amps?

@dotternetta 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms 12 Amps, 2 batteries simultaneously, with Niu splitter, I dont know what is does, but both batteries charge at the same time.

@jackjone12221 Жыл бұрын

Better let them cool down, you can open the saddle and foot floor to let them cool down faster.

@motodiagnosticodetroit1531 Жыл бұрын

exitos

@tszonline6159 2 жыл бұрын

Did you know that the BMS was OK beforehand? I first would have checked the BMS on a different battery ... did you diagnose before? I do that using a YY BMS.. (h1 did not get any data as voltage was too low).

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

No i didn't check BMS because this issue is common on new battery packs, with Chinese EVE batteries...

@e-autoauctionsdirectanycar9783 Жыл бұрын

@EVCustoms Won't such a problem to the other cells?

@joeKisonue Жыл бұрын

@@e-autoauctionsdirectanycar9783are calling individual 18650"cell" or each stack?

@12voltmasters 8 ай бұрын

Can this battery be converted in to a 72v?

@useruiiijjjjhhhhh 2 жыл бұрын

Hey please make video about front panel NIU and BMS

@vsl5917 2 жыл бұрын

Hello friend, You should see the new cells put at the same voltage as the others, because otherwise they will always be unbalanced with respect to the others

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Yes for sure, i have do that my friend... you can see them balanced at the end if video...

@DKLVE 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms yes I noticed the same thing the other packs were at 4.1V and the new one at 3.7. I really appreciate a fine job like this one. I suppose the fix was cheaper than a New battery. Congrats on the fix🦾

@vsl5917 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms ok ok, wrong title 60v = 16s not 13s jejeje

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

@@vsl5917 Oh my good..! thank you for that... I did notice that...

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

FIXED..! 😁😂😄

@bulja333 Жыл бұрын

Hello My battery has been drained to zero. I charged up to 3.2 volts, maybe the diagnostic sheet will start the BMS Or I need to buy a new BMS Thank you very much for the answer.

@LA2NY2011 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video, maybe you can answer, because i'm not good in electronic, i have an NGT 125 with 2 60V 35AH batteries, i think like DMS are dead after charging problem, my question is, can i put a 60V 26AH battery DMS on 60V 35AH battery ? Regards

@jackjone12221 Жыл бұрын

yes you can

@zjoesmoe1135 2 жыл бұрын

My 10s5p scares the hell out of me when working on it there's no way I would mess with that thing it would definitely go nuclear on me .

@johnlouiseboquiren9799 2 жыл бұрын

Sir may i know at what lowest voltage can u use this battery? I have this and it is fully charged at 71.4v . I really want to use its full potential. Can i use it until 54v?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Why not..?

@emmazhou8853 Жыл бұрын

battery manufature : www.hhpwr.com

@Clystuff19 Жыл бұрын

About the charging port what are the 3 thin wires for? Thx

@freshmaker5 10 ай бұрын

That is what I’m here to ask

@garciaautotec 8 ай бұрын

For comunication between BMS and the bike

@cyrilleancelot8167 Жыл бұрын

Wahou, so nice video. Can you share the list of devices you use to repair it? I have a niu since more than 4 years and the battery is over (can only do 20km with a full charge). I would like to change the cells but need to find the tool you are using (such as the solder devices etc…). Can you help please?

@joeKisonue Жыл бұрын

U need a battery spot welder, nickle strip or grid,cell insulator stickers,

@freedom174 Жыл бұрын

👍👍👌👌

@frod2219 2 жыл бұрын

Can you compare this cells vs Panasonic cells?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Hi... this EVE cells is from decent quality, Panasonic is from top quality bayteries.

@Prezesnf 2 жыл бұрын

Which is better? niu NQi Sport - EVE 60V26Ah vs Panasonic 60V35Ah ??

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

100% Panasonic!!!

@s3v3nlife Жыл бұрын

Worst what we can do.... mixing new whit old celles.. WTF... over few weeks is dead again...

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

Who told you that tis battery pack is old? until now is its working fine. You need to know the right type of batteries to put in.

@peterpulp Жыл бұрын

Hello again !! I have niu MQI GT and my batteries lose power 20-25% over night. Niu respond that I have to reset BMS. Do you know something about?? The batteries are about new 72 time charged from 20% to 100%.

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

Hi.. can you send me screenshot of the battery graph??

@peterpulp Жыл бұрын

This is from first battery it is the same with my second drive.google.com/file/d/110QaX0BOFuoSiDzz_O7tugmZRvTQh4ji/view?usp=drivesdk

@peterpulp Жыл бұрын

Hi..! Do you have any idea??

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

@@peterpulp Hi Peter.. i need some time

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

@@peterpulp Hi Peter.. i send the screenshot to a NIU dealer here in Cyprus, he told me that you must to o upgrade to latest firmware from the app or from dealer of your country, the percentage didn't effect you range..

@HugoVarandas 2 жыл бұрын

based in price of a new battery, how many % costs this repair?! any idea?!

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Here in Cyprus this battery is about 1200euros... i repair it for my friend for 150euros..

@HugoVarandas 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms , thank you... I'm studing here to buy a niu nqi gt/s but appear the price of both batteries is 80% of price of scooter... so is good to know that is possible replace damaged cells ... 👍🏻

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

If you able to find with Panasonic cells and pay little a bit extra... there you can forget risks of the battery...

@berhaneyohannes7095 Жыл бұрын

Wait which Niu scooter has a 60v battery?

@noobz5056 2 жыл бұрын

Nice repair yo

@fixscooter 7 ай бұрын

Esa reparación es temporal...

@bulja333 2 жыл бұрын

Здраствуйте помогите пожалуйста У мение nin m1 проблема с батарей все елементы всадились в 0ль я зарядил все елементы 3.80 вольт но bms не запускается на выходе показывает 5 вольт но на батарее 50 вольт

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Привет Мукола.. попробуй балансировать все батареи чтобы было точно одинаковый вольтаж на всех батареи..

@bulja333 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms спасибо вам за ответ Все батареи имеют 3.80, 3.81, 3.83

@stumpusMaximus 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine what that cost in the U.K. to repair? Probably best to buy a new bike! 😂

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

😄🤣😂 repair costs was 160euros...

@aircorgihui43 Жыл бұрын

Nice video👍 but If you’re in China this 26ah battery no one wants it🤣 sucks 🤣

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

Yes... there also Panasonic and LG batteries best ones... I have them..

@aircorgihui43 Жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms Awesome video tho👍 I’m learning a bit but I’m still confused about troubleshooting a battery😁 I have 2 35ah NGT battery too👍 Although users here in China don’t really use Niu original batteries if we want to go further & speed up, We opt for bigger capacity battery 72V cells like the CATL and SK soft packs from Korea.

@EVCustoms Жыл бұрын

Yeah... CATL very good batteries... but i am waiting for LTO technology.. ;)

@aircorgihui43 Жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms LTO technology, interesting 🤔 I’m not sure what kind of battery cells is that👍ill keep an eye on that🤘I can fixed anything on NIU escooter except the damn battery🤣

@standjel5469 2 жыл бұрын

To je nejhorší pro baterii co mužete udelat(

@No__Pasaran 2 жыл бұрын

🤦🤦 батарея уже с деградированными элементами , смысл ставить новые если 80% элементов старые?

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Откуда знаешь что старые? на этой батарейке было только 108 циклов!

@No__Pasaran 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms ну потому что каждый элемент деградирует . 100 циклов , это уже не новые.

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

@@No__Pasaran дружок мой тебе ещё много чему научиться... это батарея стоит 1.200 евро, как бы ты его починил? поменять 1100 евро батареек?

@No__Pasaran 2 жыл бұрын

@@EVCustoms стоимость батареи согласен дорого. Но факт остается фактом. Пройдет время и другие паралели начнут тоже деградировать а новые акб будут хорошими. Учитывая стоимость новой батареи конечно ремонт рентабелен.

@EVCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

@@No__Pasaran всё будет хорошо у меня это не первая батарея... занимаюсь этим уже 14 лет..