No more ordinary iems! (or reappraising the Aful Perfromer 8 and the Kiwi Ears Quintet)

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Stephen Ingraham

Stephen Ingraham

Күн бұрын

With a passing mention of the CVJ Mei and the Simgot Phoenix :) Some iems are extra ordinary. In this ramble I explore two. The Aful Perfromer 8 and the Kiwi Ears Quintet.

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@hankhill5409
@hankhill5409 5 ай бұрын
I love your videos, you're a blessing to the community. I got the Aful 8s, and oh my goodness they are insanely good.
@frederf69
@frederf69 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the music suggestions. i agree with "no more ordinary IEM's" & yes listening to gear rather than music seems futile after a while, or at all. good review, thanks for posting.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@mickeybreg1
@mickeybreg1 8 ай бұрын
amazing reviews with amazing artists as a bonus! i’m also wearing an amazing iem right now while listening to your reviews and music (moondrop variations) and this Al Marconi is amazing! i’m first time hearing this kind of music. thank you
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 8 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@user-dr9qr1ix9d
@user-dr9qr1ix9d 10 ай бұрын
I'm in love with the quintet absolutely amazing was listening to dave fenley stand by me cover and grandpa my whole body tingled with goose bumps the clarity is amazing and nirvana come as you are best I've ever heard the song and I have many iems this one definitely a keeper
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 10 ай бұрын
It certainly has something truly special going on :)
@alp786
@alp786 11 ай бұрын
Super !
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@dustindarkcyde9482
@dustindarkcyde9482 6 ай бұрын
Nice review, and comparisons. Great explanation and info, thanks for the video. 👍
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ByteExplorer
@ByteExplorer 11 ай бұрын
Stephen, I've really enjoyed your reviews! Thanks for taking the time to try all of these IEMs. I hope to see more special IEM reviews in the future when they come around. I see the THIEAUDIO Hype 2 is currently getting good praise at the $300 mark.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! Most of the reviews of the Hype 2 are positive, but nothing to suggest that they would be more “special” than the P8s. They do not sound to be as balanced or as detailed. Still I would love to try them…I just do not have the funds at the moment for a $300 pair of iems :)
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Also, the configuration is almost identical to the Kiwi Ears Quartet…and there is a unsubstantiated rumor out there that the design teams at Thie and Kiwi are closely related. Unless they used way better drivers (BAs) in the Thie, I am not how sure how different it could sound than the Quartet. :)
@ByteExplorer
@ByteExplorer 11 ай бұрын
@@StephenIngraham that's a good point! Thanks for the insights!
@Rsalmond83
@Rsalmond83 11 ай бұрын
Amazing! Thank you!
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Thank you too!
@chefsteve8381
@chefsteve8381 11 ай бұрын
Nice descriptions, i feel the same way after listening to my Stax, everything else is just a compromise.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Jan_de_Mor
@Jan_de_Mor 11 ай бұрын
totally agree! I'm waiting a pair of P8 and the wait is getting harder after your statement! 😂 love your videos, your speech has always a unique touch of poetry in describing your listenings 😍 btw, nice cables!!!! where I can get them? they match so perfectly with those extraordinary iems...
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. The cables are KBEars graphine/copper/silver cables. About $30 from Amazon. They are high quality cables, and worthy of extraordinary iems, but the chin thingy does not work as well as some others I own. :)
@Jan_de_Mor
@Jan_de_Mor 11 ай бұрын
@@StephenIngraham thanks so much! I already own some Kbear cables (a litttle bit cheaper ones), but yours definitely look prettier. I'm gonna look after them!
@Hijynx87
@Hijynx87 11 ай бұрын
I just got a 4.4mm stock cable from hifigo for the p8. The chin slider doesn’t work as well as the 3.5mm stock one though, idk why. It’s the same cable with a 4.4 🤷‍♂️
@Sforzabull
@Sforzabull 11 ай бұрын
​@@Jan_de_MorI believe the silver cable is the KBEAR chord, the darker is the KBEAR hazy
@maninironmask7925
@maninironmask7925 9 ай бұрын
Great review. Subscribed.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@leyvaanan8321
@leyvaanan8321 11 ай бұрын
The quintet is great in techs and details, but it just has this boxed in feeling for me. Its like the sound is not that expansive, like it hits a wall abruptly and lacking a bit of bite. So I guess I do agree that these arent the best for casual listening, but for the price and the techs, absolute beast
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
I guess it matters what you mean by “expansive”…I hear the soundstage as very wide but quite flat, while the P8 is much more rounded. :)
@winnieid2727
@winnieid2727 10 ай бұрын
How much step up of Quintet comparing it with P5 ?, I got offer for quite discount for them but i only have budget for one..
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 10 ай бұрын
Apples and oranges. The P5 is an excellent “conventional” iem…safe tuning, nothing special in detail and stage…but a good listen no matter what you listen to. The Quintet is “special”….slightly exaggerated in all ways…especially in the sense of space. I love it…but it is definitely not “ordinary” or “conventional” in any way. Over the top, for when you are in that mood. I am not sure that helps. If it were me, I would pick the Quintet. :)
@edgoreec
@edgoreec 10 ай бұрын
Excelente video, cual crees que me convenga, el Aful performer 5 o estos kiwi ears quintet? Muchas gracias
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 10 ай бұрын
They are very different so it is hard to say…The Performer 5 is a good iem…all a rounder…the Quintet is for those who like the “exploded” view of music. The P5 lets you listen to music as you might hear it performed live…the Quintet puts you inside the music. ?? Depends totally on what you want to get out of your listening experience.
@edgoreec
@edgoreec 10 ай бұрын
@@StephenIngraham gracias
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 11 ай бұрын
Now for the clincher, which is more comfortable?! I want extra-ordinary IEM's that I can wear for 12+ hours per day :)
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
The Aful Performer 8 is slightly more comfortable in my ears. The stem on the Quintet is longer and inserts deeper into the ear if you put the iems in snuggly.
@Hijynx87
@Hijynx87 11 ай бұрын
P8 is more comfortable and shallower fitting. I use spinfit w1 on both. Both are comfy to me, but the p8 has that semi custom fit.
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 11 ай бұрын
@@Hijynx87 Hearing a lot of good reviews on W1. My friend just got Monarch mk2 and loves the W1 on it ... and the monarchs :D
@rizaleffendie
@rizaleffendie 11 ай бұрын
Hello sir, if you have time could you please considered review the new Thieaudio Hype 2, I would like to know your opinion on the sound, thanks
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
I would love to review them but my wallet is empty.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Also, the configuration is almost identical to the Kiwi Ears Quartet…and there is a unsubstantiated rumor out there that the design teams at Thie and Kiwi are closely related. Unless they used way better drivers (BAs) in the Thie, I am not how sure how different it could sound than the Quartet. :)
@Hijynx87
@Hijynx87 11 ай бұрын
@@StephenIngrahamI think they both use Knowles. The hype 2 is a completely different iem though, it’s more of a v towards bass and flat mids.edit oh the hype 2 uses Sonian
@Crashboomwallop
@Crashboomwallop 11 ай бұрын
Hi Stephen, If one were to choose just one (Money factor!), what would you choose?
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 11 ай бұрын
Honesty. I could be perfectly happy with the Quintet, and save myself almost $200. :) But that is just me. Objectively the P8 is probably more “true to life.”
@Crashboomwallop
@Crashboomwallop 11 ай бұрын
@@StephenIngraham Righto! Thanks. That extra money savings does sound tempting! Have couple of 60dollars iems. Going for one big quality upgrade before this hobby gets out of hand!
@Crashboomwallop
@Crashboomwallop 10 ай бұрын
Got the P8 as they offered it for 90 dollars more than Quintet - and not 200. So that made my decision easier. And It’s an aural gourmet, once you jump from a sub 100$ category to mid-tier like Aful Performer 8. The lush crisply-clear tonals, the full-bodied texture of the music hits the eardrums first. Like a sun-drenched wave on a cold day. Without experience of other mid-tier IEMs, I would have to assume they cohabit with P8 in that sound-scape. And then the details that leap out; each sound wave emanating from an instrument is crystallised into delivering a ear-gasm and you genuinely hear stuff that the very good sub-100 IEMs hint at. Aural veil seems to clear up with P8, and you are in presence with pure music. Balanced, pure, natural sound - the mids are a stand-out highlight but the vocals aren’t pushed forward. They reside where they should be. The bass isn’t for bassheads, but it delivers the glide bass - that hit-and-linger that doesn’t bleed on. I personally am satisfied with this kind of bass feel, just enough to warm the mids and not too much to prevent the treble sparkle to weave its magic details. What it doesn’t have is wow-ing holographic soundstage; there is excellent vertical layeration, it feels realistically wide, cogent separation and a crystal clarity to various sounds whose details keep tumbling out lush-ly, but I suspect what some of the more holographic IEMs or even the lesser-priced Quintet offers - not quite natural but exaggerated soundstage isn’t here. If I buy another IEM, it would be to experience that. That can wait for months. Until then, will savour this P8. Thanks for the reviews. It helped.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 10 ай бұрын
@@Crashboomwallop Glad to be of help.
@classifiedsuser3265
@classifiedsuser3265 2 ай бұрын
Great review! What cable did you use with the performer 8?
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 2 ай бұрын
I am currently using a KBEars cable…the graphine one.
@classifiedsuser3265
@classifiedsuser3265 2 ай бұрын
@@StephenIngraham thanks!
@1jaasuh
@1jaasuh 8 ай бұрын
I think in one of your newer videos you mention that you rarely reach for the performer 8 anymore. Do you have an idea why? The things we subconsciously reach for (or not!) is such a strong indicator... I have the p8 in my cart and am debating back and forth. Thanks for your videos!
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 8 ай бұрын
The Perfromer 8 is totally about transparent reality…it is just the music and nothing but the music…but it is, therefore, not very musical…a bit sterile. While it is a great iem, and a real ear cleanser, it is not all that fun to listen to…or I should say that several of my other iems, while not technically as good as the P8, and just more fun to listen to. The heart wants what the heart wants. I totally respect, and even admire, the P8…but I don’t love it. Or maybe I mean to say, I don’t love my music as much when played on the P8 as I do, say on the Quintet (for special occasions), or the Penon Fan2 (for daily listening), or even the Celest Phoenix Call, which is getting a lot of play time right now…and all of those are way less expensive…so they have that going for them too. And, I really enjoy a wide, deep, detailed soundstage…not the P8s strongpoint. So not any one thing…just a bunch of things that add up. If that is any help. I am testing the Magicone right now and the new Ziigaat Cinno. Both have the potential to find their way into my rotation…while the P8 sits in my iem case. :(
@1jaasuh
@1jaasuh 8 ай бұрын
@@StephenIngraham Thank you for the very detailed response! I'm sure other people would enjoy an update like this in video form! I have the phoenix call too, and I like it a lot, except that fit is a bit problematic for me, so it's quite rare that I can get myself to actually use it for longer periods of time. I realized that I value comfort and a snug stable fit way more than I was willing to admit to myself when chasing different sounds. I will consider the performer 8 and a couple of other options for a bit more before deciding. PS. Thank you for the music recommendations in your videos! To return the favour: If you ever feel like electric guitars, consider giving Takeshi Terauchi a listen!
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 8 ай бұрын
Try the KBEars K7 tips. They come in 3 standard sizes and a couple of intermediate. They work well on the Phoenix Call for me, and i have “hard to fit” ears. :) I use the medium/large. They are not expensive either.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 8 ай бұрын
@@1jaasuh I plan a video on the difference between iems you respect and admire and those you love…I am not sure how it will go down, but it is on my list of things to do. :)
@1jaasuh
@1jaasuh 8 ай бұрын
@StephenIngraham I'm looking forward to it! I'm sure it will be well received. After all only time can tell what we truly like and therefore reach for. I'm also looking forward to the magic one review you mentioned. I'm really drawn to the design, it just looks so pretty!
@pandygrafics1410
@pandygrafics1410 10 ай бұрын
What cable do you have for the performer 8? nice videooo
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 10 ай бұрын
It is the KBEars graphite/copper/silver cable…comes in the black coffee color and a silver white…I have one of each and use the light one on my Quintets. Excellent cables.
@pandygrafics1410
@pandygrafics1410 10 ай бұрын
you have a link? plssss @@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 10 ай бұрын
@@pandygrafics1410 Got them on Amazon US. Just search for KBEars iem cable. They offer several. This one is around $30. :)
@realharnold
@realharnold 10 ай бұрын
I just scored a set of P8's, and I could not agree more with this assessment. I feel like I can almost hear how far away from the microphone a vocalist is... It simply sounds so... "real".
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 10 ай бұрын
Glad you are enjoying it!
@BassDad8
@BassDad8 7 ай бұрын
Someone please send this man (and me lol) a kilobuck+ iem to review. I want to hear his descriptions of them! Badly. Seriously. HiFiGo? Linsoul? You listening? Send him a Monarch mkiii or a subsonic storm or a Jupiter. I’m sure he’d send them back if needed and take excellent care of them during the review process. Then you can sell them as open box at just a little loss on profit margin. I’m just saying.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 7 ай бұрын
:) Thanks. I hope they listen to you more than they listen to me.
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 8 ай бұрын
Yanyin canon 2 is far better than p8 & certainly than quintet.
@StephenIngraham
@StephenIngraham 8 ай бұрын
I can only go by what I have heard, and I have not heard the Canon 2 :) Would love to but the budget only stretches so far, and I am still paying off the P8s. :)
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