It affected Jeff Petry in Montreal which is why he was traded.

Could this be a good enough argument for Turd to circle back on this

Canadians shrug this off but it was a big deal. Probably explains why a lot of US players eye the southern cities, too

When you see a government make the wrong choices consistently for 2 years, it (rightfully) shakes your faith in their abilities

Without question. That is only one example of a much larger system and symptoms of problems. Unaccountable policing and docile citizens who have allowed it, make it a far less free and enjoyable nation than America. Sorry, but we have allowed this to happen to ourselves. We should be ashamed.

And his entire family loves it in Edmonton.

Good for him, but he only loves Edmonton because playing with McDavid will give him a Cup

​@@theodorebelmont7922LMAO, sure it will.

@@jeffreycairns767 haha I'm just playing the odds. Usually the team with the best player in the world eventually wins in the NHL.

he is from a city that is 7 degrees more north than edmonton. maybe that is a reason

Remember McDavid's face when the Oilers won the draft lottery? He didn't say it, but his face sure did. Credit where it's due though - he seems to have embraced being an Oiler.

@@Alex-js5lg Yeah, I can bet that he is just building his brand and image, and If I’m not mistaken, his contract will be up around the time he turns 30. Then he can go play for an actual organization and win some Cups, but nobody can say he didn’t try for Deadmonton.

​@RoscoMontana21 delusional take. Guarantee he resigns at least short term to try to win a cup with Leon. Those guys have built that team from the ground up and are clearly heavily invested. This is practically their team. Edmonton is not a bad spot to be right now if your a player who wants a cup, the window is open more than any other Canadian team. I don't see them wanting out at least by the end of their next contract. Once the oilers window closes I can see them leaving.

@@BoxxMasterr Call me delusional if you want, Oilers fans have been saying Cup run since 2015. If they don’t win it by the time Leon and Connor’s contracts are up, then both of those guys would be taking a huge risk to resign on what I assume would be long term deals. If 2026 comes and no cup is in Edm, Connor will have spent 10 years there. 11 for Leon. I’m all for loyalty, and I will commend them if they resign and get it done. The window is closing though.

​@@RoscoMontana21go ahead and just make stuff. You don't care to know what either player actually thinks about the team and fans they play for just pushing your stupid narrative of 'Edmonton bad".

And many players have them listed in no trade clauses. Like it or not plenty players don't want to be there and wouldn't be if they had a choice

@@zoloftsucks-archive7608lol, well McDavid’s presence is literally destroying that nonsense media narrative because the Oilers keep signing players in free agency and players like Ekholm waive trade restrictions to play in the city with 97….maybe highlight Brady Tkachuk, JT Miller, Josh Morrisey, Jack Campbell, Blake Coleman, Brock Boesser, Cole Caufield who are all American and have all committed long term to Canadian organizations post pandemic and stop highlighting the ineffectiveness of the Flames organization and soon to be Leaf’s organization with treliving being the conduit in those markets instead as to why Americans don’t want to play in Canada. It’s media garbage as even the Jets had Wheeler, Buff, Hellebuyck all sign long term extensions when they were younger because they believed the organization was heading in the right direction. Bottom line, players want to win and will go wherever they can to achieve that goal whether it’s Canada or not…John Gibson wants out of Anaheim and he’s American and they have sh*t load of sunshine and it’s an American city so again start highlighting that players care about winning.

As a Montreal fan, this is spot on

Man, Subban was the perfect player for the Habs, not afraid of the big pressure, instead thrived on it and enjoyed it.

Well Alberta taxes are lower than many places. But some players like being in the US in some low key markets.

CFL players, by and large, embrace the obsessed fans and really get involved in the community, too bad more NHL players don't feel that way.

​@@xAnAngelOfDeathxyep. It's either brain dead ignorant Americans talking about a country they know nothing about or self-hating Canadians who think life is "better" in America. Lol.

I remember in the Thrashers era when players went on a night out in the city and literally no one recognised them! I'm really not sure that pro athletes should be glad about that...

@@kevinbadger8030 nope. It's called having no fans. And we all know what happened to that team...

Taxes are the only one of those higher in Canada, and even in Alberta your tax is pretty much the same as living in California. Edmonton is cheaper to live in than all American markets other than than the Columbuses of the league

I’m in Canada. You’re not wrong despite what this guy ⬆️ says

@@HendayAllStar source? Or is your computer frozen?

taxes is a bad excuse, they are making millions of dollars. call it greed, dont blame it on canada, they don't owe sports players shit

​@@HendayAllStaryou don't know what you're talking about. You're living expenses and taxes combined will be much higher in a places like California/New York then in a place like Alberta. At least in Canada you're being paid in America dollars and spending in Canadian.

It can be a tough sell even for Canadian players, Pronger being one example. In the US, if you particularly play in one of the bigger markets, like NY, hockey is such a minor consideration, outside of its own small niche, nobody even knows that you're a celebrity. I used to work in a residential building where one fairly prominent Ranger player lived (one who played for a while for the Leafs), so I'd see him around the neighborhood and no one knew who he was. Besides me, I guess. I never approached him because I figured guys don't want to be bothered by random strangers. But maybe once in a while they liked being asked for an autograph so at least they know they're being recognized. Who knows? Maybe there's a happy medium where, as a professional athlete, you like getting recognized once in a while, but not bugged all the time.

Winters are more forgiving in the US? Minnesota has far worse winters than Toronto, but keep living in your delusions.

@@shawnpitman876Lmao that’s one place. But sure, great comparison.

​@@spartannige3296 Cincinnati, which is literally right across the river from Kentucky, which is always considered a "Southern" state, and is considerably south of Columbus, has been the site of a couple of the coldest games in NFL history. The so-called "rust-belt" states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, have basically the same climate of Southern Ontario despite being much further south. I guess it's the effect of the lakes.

Canada is tough sale for Canadians lol. I would get the fuck out forever. I been trying since 2020. Soon as a green card pops up. Buhbye!!

Yes Canada less than 50% now and US closer to a quarter.

Yes, quite embarrassing to hear each time at the draft "from the USA Hockey's National Team Development Program" more and more :-( and how less we hear about players coming from Canadian teams.

Merica FUCK YA!

probably because canada's economy is fucked and people can hardly afford food let-alone the cost of rep hockey.

This happened in the UK with soccer. As the game has spread worldwide, other countries have just become more dominant. Nothing wrong with that. The Canadian teams work hard with the youth segment of the game in order to get more involved. But there are a lot more sports for kids to grasp. Especially sports like soccer which are much more cost effective. Yet the fastest growing team sport in North America is still hockey- female hockey.

"Make Canada a better place to be."? What TF??? Not enough mass shootings in Canada compared to the U.S. for you? Not enough MAGA? *STFU!*

Nah it does get pretty cold here

Ah Sens fan…do you remember when Big Rig scored the Cup-winning goal into his own net? I do. Ahhhh….memories. 😂

Things could be worse. You could be a leafs fan. 🤣

yeah it`s a big decision if you sign for the rest of your pro career. Especially after you basically got thrown out of Chicago.

Dude I totally agree with you 💯 if DeBrincat doesn’t want to stay here we need to trade him. Also when he returns boo him, and have Tkachuk drop him on his butt 🔥🖤💛❤️

we kinda knew from the moment he was acquired this would happen.

You are,100 percent correct!Winepeg,is hockey,just like Montreal,Toronto,Ottawa,Calgary,Vancouver,and Edmonton!As a ex player,and love of the game,be it only as a Ametuer,I played 20, years and miss it immensely!GodBless The Great White North!Old,Old,Old,6 team Chicago Blackhawks fan!

Wheeler's getting a lot of shit, but he certainly made a long term commitment to Winnipeg early in his career. So did Byfuglien. Hellebuyck has been there a long time and so has Kyle Connor. The Jets came close, but it just didn't work out.

@@RRaquello there are a lot of players on the team that have been here long term. Some, I think that would/will resign when contracts are done. Morrissey, Ehlers' Lowry. Wheels was that heart of the team for a long time and I don't think anyone could dispute his desire to win. I think he realizes that he won't win on this team and personally I think it would be a classy move for the team to buy him out so that he could take his pick of teams to play for for a real chance to win a cup before he retires

@@tomfilipiak3511 Look at the CFL. Rules that limit the number of foreign players, Knowing that if they do well enough, the NFL scouts will come with a big contract they will refuse. And why ? Because the CFL players basically play for love of the game and love of country. The NHL players are mercenaries. Yes, they are Canadian mercenaries, but mercenaries nonetheless. When owners stop rewarding the mercenaries, the salaries will come down, and the love of the game and love of country will return.

​@@grousetheghoul2754The owners also need to curb their greed and keep concessions reasonable. The whole idea of professional sports is a diamond dog entertainment show for ratings. Now with sports betting legalized, we'll get to see how worked professional sports are.

What if Canadian players do what the American players are doing to Canadian teams? That would be a problem. So there is an issue here.

@@Kwolf1 Until Canada becomes warmer, and wealthier then the USA; that will never happen. So it is not an "issue".

@@ADB358 Buddy you know that there is cold climate American teams too? And yes it is an issue because Americans are being to ignorant while Canadian players aren’t.

@@Kwolf1ignorant how bud? You’re just mad.

@@Kwolf1quit being so soft there bud. Some people prefer the US and honestly tax reasons are a big deal

Social media imo has started to ruin sports if it hasn’t already. If I was a guy like Jack Campbell I’d be terrified to open up my social media after a bad lost

Leafs supposed fans are maybe the worst. The team and it's players can do no right.

Our old friend Sports Gambling is responsible for making fans so nasty of late.

@@glendegroot8403 Yep. Tennis players have it the worst imho lol

LOL at pro athletes complaining about Social Media, Goes with the territory of making a seven figure salary. You don't like it quit, you won't be missed.

@lankancheetah it was individual states that had more freedom than others. Not the entire country. NY and CA are communist shit holes. Florida is the best place to play.

Yeah I wouldn’t want to live in a country where I could lose access to my bank account because I exercised my right to protest

​@@oskforalltidIt isn't a "right" here. That's the sad part.

@@arthurkjr they are tough freedom lovers.

@@oskforalltid There are many Americans who have lost bank accounts or the right to fly for holding relatively benign political opinions; for example many of the people who protested the inauguration of Biden, even if they acted peacefully and didn't go inside the White House. That's only one of many examples I could name. I'm not defending Canada, by the way. I never wore a mask or took the jab and I was treated absolutely abysmally by Canadians. I'm still trespassed from the University of Calgary to this day for not wearing a mask or being jabbed after graduating from the school and being an Academic All-Canadian and Canada-West all-star student athlete. Shame on the U of C and shame on Canadians! When those of us who did care about freedom marched the downtown streets, peacefully protesting the government, people threw eggs at us from their apartment buildings. If I were an American I would most assuredly want to leave the country and move to one of the U.S. states, like Florida, that still at least somewhat value individual rights and freedoms.

The Flames challenge is they have an old barn. Many other teams have newer arenas that are nicer to play in. Losing a couple of good players sucked, but they got 3 new ones signed to long term deals, which I thought was a pretty good job, given the circumstances they were in. Montreal has done a great job getting their young core signed to long term affordable deals that allow management to fill out the roster with other quality pieces. Then there's Toronto. Lots of talent in their core, but no money to fill out the roster.

Eberle should have not been traded.. he is clutch and what a mistake it was letting him go

It was Hall that said he thought he be an oiler for life. But Holland deserves credit Detroit fans constantly bashing him saying he’s going to destroy the oilers but he’s got them in the playoffs every years since he’s been hired what has the Detroit GM done the one everyone praises they haven’t made the playoffs since he joined them. How much longer is everyone going to keep saying he has a plan the rebuild. Yea how long has that rebuild been going on now come on Holland has done a quicker job at it by trading signing and growing draft picks. Oilers get made fun of for being swept or taking on bad contracts we have one bad contract Nurse and maybe Campbell and have made playoffs every year since 2020.

@@ryans413 Yzerman is an incredible GM. Red Wings are trending up

@ryans413 ah okay, Hall said it publicly. It felt the same way with Eberle though, especially with all the commercials he did, work in the community, was a part of the 2016-17 team that ended the playoff drought. He always seemed happy to be an Oiler.

Why is great in quotes? Also check the tax rates in New York :)

@@papamikegolf That is true, New-York has high taxes too. "Great" is in quotes because I don't like high temperatures/summer. I prefer winters :)

The tax thing is overblown. Yes Canada has it the worst but it’s still overblown, Ontario is less than 1% higher than California. High taxes, bad weather, unruly fans are all things the Rangers and Bruins gotta deal with as well.

@@TreySarver the tax thing is overblown, ROFL LMAO, what a chuD.

@@TreySarver Yes, but Dallas has NO personal income tax.

Yeah. Pronger was a bad example to use as his reasoning.

Yeah and Pronger is a Canadian.

Naw, it was a sports reporter.

100%, the weather and or lifestyle excuse is way overblown. I've lived all over the world and other parts of Canada, Edmonton is great city to live.

I've lived in a pretty nice area of Edmonton for 7 years now and each year we only get our roads cleaned once a year, and usually not until the spring once it's started melting and all they do is make the roads worse while piling snow on the side of the roads making it even harder to get in and out of the residential as it becomes impossible to get past an on coming car. Canadian winters are not over blown but if you're the type of person who hates nice weather (I have friends who seriously won't go outside if it's above 20 celsius because it's "too hot" and they're only in their mid 20's) and you're happier the colder it is then Canada is fine for you but I think most people (me included) like nice weather but especially rich athletes with money who want to drive nice sports cars more than just a few months a year

The worst part about Edmonton is that it's quickly becoming a 3rd world country like San Francisco.

😂 haha

Salary cap is the main culprit which makes Canada a harder choice for the $2-4 million dollar players which most often make the difference in the playoffs. There needs to be a way for Canadian teams to compete for those players .

@@johnsummerhill8323 Ajust the cap based on the province/state tax rate. Been saying this for years. Kucherov will make more money at the end of the year than McDavid even if McJesus is signed for like 3.5M more, it's insane. If the cap wasnt ''flat'' but worked rather like the MLB, where you get ''taxed'' if you exceed the cap. But teams like Montreal and Toronto wouldnt care.

Yup, the Oilers had no problems signing McD, Leon and Nuge to long term contracts, and were able to sign UFA’s like Hyman, Kane and Campbell, and indeed Ekholm and his family seem to like Edmonton just fine! 🤷🏻‍♂️

Don't worry, I'll say it, it was worse

No and Covid was handled far better in Canada with the possible exception of Alberta. I didn't hear a lot of good coming out of there.

I will. It was handled much much worse in hindsight.

That's probably one the biggest reason in the past couple years. Canada really showed that if you have a choice in the matter, better to be on the Southern side of the border in case something like this happens again.

I think Covid had something to do with it for sure. Canada kept people locked down much longer. Americans playing in Canada hated not being able to go home or see their family for that extended period.

American federal government isn't much better, but that's totally reasonable

@@johnnybaxter1953the American government is arguably worse in a lot of instances but since there is a lot of diversity in each party on the state level, covid measures weren’t able to catch on like they did in Canada

@@johnnybaxter1953 At least they don't ban millions of their citizens arbitrarily and unscientifically from travelling on planes, trains, busses or boats, and cease their bank accounts for peacefully protesting.

​@@johnnybaxter1953Lots of things to dislike in Canada you don't have to deal with living in a red state in the US.

My God man. The Canadian parliamentary system is smooth, reasonable, and functioning compared to that shitstorm that's happening down there. Anyone who is a Trumper should leave Canada.

Why are hockey players so against being recognized in public other athletes from different sports embrace being a celebrity and love the spotlight.

@@jamespark6416 Because almost all of them are NOT recognized in public. In most communities except for a handful of very important players, most players from the NBA, NFL, or MLB and their families can go about their business with little more than a nod and a wave. However, in Canada the media and fans swarm over every player 24/7. For twenty years I lived in a community with several pro athletes and everyone was "ok-so what-no big deal" same with major corporate executives in the same neighborhood.

There are many many more taxes than income tax in this equation... Look at the capital gains and inheritance tax advantages Canada has over all US States. By the time they pass, what they leave to their kids, beneficiary, charity, etc, would be more as an Albertan than a Floridian.

@@austinritchie5292 That may be true but M Tkachuk publicly said he left for the States for the (at this time) superior US Dollar. Also, he did not accept a trade to Sign with the NJ Devils becaUse of the massive difference in taxes between NJ & FLA.

That's part of it but it's because Canada has become full on liberal communist woke. Damn near 70% tax rate, human and civil rights abuses, eight months of winter… add to it for sure

Pissed off prairie dwellers incoming

Edmonton ain’t as bad as you think but it’s a fair point

@@ryanhobbs7041 Honestly Edmonton is a good city. I’ve lived both there and Calgary but like Edmonton a little better. It’s got more of a nightlife and more of a big city vibe. Calgary just feels like a giant suburb that goes to sleep after 9 pm.

@@ryanhobbs7041 Yeah really I like Edmonton. I lived in Banff for a few years and had the chance to visit, great time.

Might depend a little on wether you're married, kids, single. I'm a Winnipegger and I know the reputation this city has and I won't even try to defend it but it might not be such a bad place to raise kids.

especially when American teams outnumber the Canadian teams by a wide margin (25 in the US, 7 in Canada).

this is the BIGGEST factor the that the low IQ cHuds want to ignore.

Ok

wasnt that funny mate

So why am I paying $40 a month for hockey if my team can't win?

@@dixonhill1108 Why indeed.

California, such a cesspool of the worsts of the worst now.

That’s something that always get lost in the “move the Arizona team” Seems to me players should like living there and by extension should like playin there if they can get a stable ownership

​@@lordrayden3045 Hard to find a "stable" owner who's willing to lose that sort of money.

The Nordiques are still there... they just call themselves Colorado now. In reality the NHL will not likely put another team in the same area that already has a ton of teams. They want to expand into area's that don't have a lot of other teams, so that the team in the area have more completion... with less travel costs.

​@@dennisheyes4561Expansion and team placement is determined by the TV contract and the people who negotiate it. That is why there is still a team in Arizona.

You are absolutely right. Canadian markets are in the same ol' pattern as 25 years ago with old guard gm's and coaches. THe Flames and Jets organisations are toxic environments for many years now. Nobody listened. No leadership had fix the problem. After few years, everybody wants to leave and I would do so. And the Leafs hire the guy who is responsible for the mess in Calgary, Brad Treiliving. And nobody is blaming Cheveldayoff for the mess in Winnipeg.

Agreed. Especially with Winnipeg. They need a hard reset and a culture change. Byfuglien and Little were the leaders of that locker room, and their exit from the league marked the beginning of the end for the Jets. They had a contention window, it didn't work out, and it's time to try again. Build around Nik Ehlers as the vet, make room for the young guys (Lambert, Lucius, Heinola, Perfetti), and be honest with the fans, like Montreal did. They aren't gonna be better than Dallas or Colorado for the next 2 years. They have the opportunity to build something great, if they seize it.

@@APJTA The red flags were there for a lon time. Byfuglien and Maurice. And how Scheifele responded for what he did in the series against the Canadiens. And what Bowness said after their elimition this year. Fire Cheveldayoff!!!

if you know all those people then ask them.

@@trevoravery9270 we found the special Ed person

Exactly. Why is it that government never has to do with less?

Is Bettman a goalie? I heard pucks in the net is what wins games. I could be wrong.

Yeah Try living there

"Nice weather" In a fuckin desert LOL

Especially the case for Helley in Winnipeg. He always said he would stay in Winnipeg as long as the organization was committed to being a contender. And sadly, that's just not the case. He has had little to no help in front of him for the past 4 seasons, which has lead to him being the most overworked goalie during that span. He was never going to have any chance at cup with the team as it was currently constructed. That's why I blame Chevy. He is just way too passive and reactive. I just don't understand why True North continues to keep him on as GM.

​@@pomerlain8924I'd argue Gibson was by far the most overworked goalie in the league last season

Ottawa has one of the best young cores in the entire league, I don't buy that for DeBrincat. If he likes his teammates, likes the coach (for the most part), likes the city of Ottawa, then why does he still want to leave? I feel like this is more of a wife + kid thing than anything else.

People dont quit jobs, they quit bosses & customers.

Trudeau has completely destroyed Canada.😢

He cherrypicked this list for the most part. Tkachuck, Gaudereau, and Hannifin are Americans leaving Calgary but what about Lindholm, Toffoli, and Backlund that want out? Backlund wanted to be the captain of the team and retire a Flame. The coach and management turned players against staying. The cold was not the reason.

Honestly, the saltiness of like Canadians when it comes to Americans wanna play in America just makes me laugh

You are an American arnt you can tell by that comment. Do some research the weather don’t suck 24/7 12 months of the year we get summer we get fall we get winter and we get spring same as freaking America unless your in California , Nevada or Texas. Are summer can be at times hotter then Texas. The taxes are one thing but every team out there has toxic fans not just Canada.

@@ryans413 keep crying

the fans are unruly.

@@phukobama7111 I just think it’s stupid someone would write a comment and not do any research. Canada not always cold the taxes are not high it depends on each province. The province of Alberta has the highest taxes in the country so only Edmonton and Calgary would be affected but it’s still very high everywhere compared to America.

Define "many". That's just not a thing, sure people move/ travel to florida, always have, but there is no exodus.

That’s true, as a canadian myself i can clearly see why the US is more appealing not only for players but wealthy people as well… the government here is too invasive especially financially compared to the US

@@xAnAngelOfDeathx many is not hundreds, I'm just one person. I've heard stories of course. Americans almost always come back, it's an American thing. Brain drain from Canada to America has always been a problem for Canada. The best and brightest make a point of moving here as fast as possible; you can't beat the avenues we have for success. I have my suspisions to why people are leaving Canada, they include what was shared in the video and what some have said in the comments.

@@daveowenhasbrouck4139 All you have to do is look at the logo on the Winnipeg jersey. That airplane in the circle is an AVRO Arrow. There is a lot of history behind it. Basically, the Canadian government wanted to build up an aerospace industry in the country, and the Arrow was the result. It's a legend in aviation history because it was considered one of the great fighter planes in history-but it never went into production because the project ended up getting cancelled in the prototype stage. So what happened to all the brilliant Canadian engineers working on the project? NASA swooped in and hired them all and they all moved to the US. That was in the early 60's. One of them (Jim Chamberlin) became a chief designer of the Mercury space craft and a project manager on Gemini. Another, John Hodge, became one of the first three flight directors in Project Gemini. You weren't going to get gigs like that in Canada.

That's awesome! That means that Country is up for grabs!

You’re free to leave now!

@@KFCs2FilthyFlow I've contributed more to this country than you ever will. If a player was in an American city he'd have had far more freedom to travel than if he was in Canada. It's a very valid reason why many of them might prefer living there. The taxes here are nuts, especially compared to some jurisdictions in the States

I highly doubt you’ve contributed more. You have not a clue.

Mexico is facing the same problem as Canada. While Mexican soccer fans have far more passion then American soccer fans ( just like with hockey)more and more dual Nationals players like Richard Pepi are choosing Team USA over El Tri. We saw the same thing with Gabe Perrault choosing Team USA over Team Canada.

Hockey players can afford expensive houses. House is sn investment.

Home prices the nhl players would buy in America dollars are cheaper then Canadian housing, where? Lol. Give your head a shake.

Bro USA is homophobic

Grass isn't greener. I spent 5 years in the States, I was happy to get back home. There's things that were better there (phone plans are cheaper, beer is cheaper), but overall I prefer life in Canada.

Move to a red state. You're welcome.

@@jodmancousland5087I hear the fentanyl is lovely this time of year. And the fracking chemicals have given the tap water a great nose and body.

No, you really dont

?. Why do you so feel bad for these poor and defenseless millionaire hockey players? They are rich, no? Should not NHLers pay more taxes? Their jobs are playing a kids' game. Their lives are a cakewalk with x, y, and z privileges. Give us one good reason why the Canadian gov should reduce their responsibility to pay taxes? So, some spoiled millionaires may be able to raise a metallic trophy in a Canadian City?!?! Has Johnny Hawkey brainwashed you into his NHL death cult?

They won't do that. They are selling the game in the states their biggest market and no Canadians will come out regardless of how to crappy the teams are. No problem taking money from Bill Canadian markets to give to American cities but you'll never see vice versa

Canada is woke af with the provincial and federal taxes. Why would those players want to cough up their hard earned money to the stupid Canadian government?

​@TheSunTheSea if by woke you mean Medicare and subsidized post-secondary education, then I guess the "stupid Canadian government" is woke. Those things aren't free, and most Canadians accept higher taxes as a necessary evil. The issue lies in that the salary cap is intended to make it fair so big markets like NY and Toronto can't just buy a cup. However, when you consider that income taxes in some Canadian markets are close to 50% and some American markets are 0%, how is that "fair"? For example, not only was Tampa Bay $20 million over the cap due to ltir management when they beat the Habs in the finals, Tampa is one of those markets with 0% income tax and Montreal has 50% tax. That is one of if not the most lopsided disadvantages EVER SEEN in a salary cap league, and the results on the ice reflected that.

@@TheSunTheSeaI love how the concept of taxation is ‘woke’ now lol

@@Gum_Cuzzler I guess higher taxation is woke because "woke" and excessive taxes are very left leaning concepts.

Not like America dosnt have bad weather high taxes and crazy media either

1000%

Idiotic take.

Hit the nail on the head!

THE USA IS HOMOPHOBIC AND IS A CONSERVATIVE UTOPIA OF ANTI LGBTQ LAWS

@@cohengamertv6548Are you deranged ? 😐

It wasn't this way before. At one time if the Habs went, say, 60-8-12 fans were wondering what went wrong in those 8 games; or the other 12 for that matter. They might overlook the fact that several of those 60 wins were only by one goal.... I would suspect there are a large number who love being in Montreal, and even if the Centre Bell is not the glorious Forum, it still reeks of history. And I have to think that for many players being in a hockey market where the fans care a lot is powerful.

@@ericmorrison1971 It's called Cup envy! 🤣

Main reason for Habs non-inflated salary is Kent Hughes and Marty St-Louis

What kind of forgotten history is this? Habs fans are fine now because fans expect them to suck. When they had a good teams fans were not what you’re saying. You’re delusional or young.

No one is lining up to deal with Montreal. The team chased Roy and Subban out of the city and ran Price into the ground for years. Canada has way higher taxes than most of the US teams, way more social pressure, media intrusiveness and most of the franchises are run like hot garbage. Toronto has a near infinite bank roll to support the team, a great array of players, and can barely sniff the second round in decades.

The Canadian teams have to get their players married to Canadian women.

Plenty of hot Canadian women. Emmanuele Chirqui for example

Maybe state tax but not federal tax or a combined tax rate Cali has a combined rate of 28% which is way less than anywhere in Canada and that doesn't include all of the hidden taxes in Canada. No, taxes in Canada are prohibitive.

@@ryanoliver9475 obviously, you have no idea what you talking about. Here are real numbers with real players, not your made up numbers. McDavid pays 47,78% tax in Edmonton, Tavares, 53,3% tax in Toronto, Kopitar, 51,16% tax in LA, Benn, 36,74% in Dallas, Ovechkin, 42,4% in Washington. Price, 53,15% in Montreal. Josi, 36,66% in Nashville. That was a couple years ago. Tax rate haven't change much since but I know federal tax in the US went down a couple % since so those numbers are not 100% accurate but fairly close.

@pierrepellerin249 I'm a Canadian that moved to the US and went from paying Canadian tax to US tax. I know exactly what I'm talking about.

@@ryanoliver9475 but you don't make millions so you don't know what their tax brackets are. a simple google search will give you the exact tax rate for each player in their team. That's how I got those numbers.

"national sport" - maybe. But my family could never afford to send kids to hockey. Lots of soccer and baseball.

I mean playing in an arena for an hour that’s maybe -5 is a hell of a lot different then living in an area like Winnipeg where it’s -20 or colder for months

@@jameson1239 yeah how could Canadian born player ever deal with Canadian winters…

@@impulse_xs if you had the choice between a Canadian winter or a Miami, LA, or Tampa winter which would you pick?

@@jameson1239 I mean I despise hot weather so you’re not gonna get the answer you want to hear for your rhetorical question. It’s also not necessarily an important question when it comes to a decision involving this much money but whatever. Again why doesn’t Boston or Minnesota have this problem

great , now we can miss the playoffs and never win a cup, but we got the injury prone munchkin locked up for 8 years, yyayyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

😂

I'd live with ten JTs before even allowing someone like DeSantis to enter our country. No bitterness, I believe you should go where you're happy. but I wouldn't try to talk you out of leaving. You should give up your citizenship though.

All hail Pride Minister Dildeau!

😂

The problem is overpaying people to play in Canada, people leave out the mathematical impossibility of Canadian teams winning. You can't win if you're continually losing more players than you can keep, unless you overpay. It's basic math, Canadian teams can't win.

And also guys like Tkachuk, Norris, Stutzle signing long term deal with Ottawa

@@spartuz71 that's the exception not the norm. and it isn't like they got paid nothing. Norris didn't even play last year, entirely possible he becomes a dud player due to nagging injuries. Anyone will play in Canada if you double your salary. Overpaying 4-5 players means you're virtually incapable of having 3rd line depth. Name one team in Canada with 3rd line depth and a reasonable d corp? Ottawa losing Debrincat is exactly what a Canadian team will look like. you're also short on 2-3 players, never getting over the hump of being a middle of the pack team.

@@dixonhill1108 This is why cap for Canadian teams needs to be adjusted to properly be able to compete with their American counterparts. The caps supposed to go up to $83M US this coming season. It would be fair if the cap for all 7 Canadian teams went up to $109.5M CAD to make up the exchange rate difference. Then Canadian teams could actually be on level terms with US teams to compete for the the best free agents. With the way it is now, Canadian teams are always going to be behind the 8-ball and simply exist in the NHL instead of actually contending. And the league would do a lot better if both American AND Canadian teams had an equal chance at winning.